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00:02:13,582\n我知道網路有直播也有轉播啦那我給你這30秒我覺得你沒有把握一下因為大家都很關心這個棒球的這個賽事同時呢其實今年的金馬獎是非常的精彩喔因為有史以來是最多應該是最多影作品參加的有718部而且是最多非華語地區的電影工作者入圍的一季是非常有亮點非常的精彩\n\n7\n00:02:23,228 --> 00:02:46,488\n所以我也希望說文化部這邊你們再積極的宣傳推廣一下希望我們的民眾可以同時兩邊都可以掌握訊息的來關心我們金馬獎的頒獎接下來我想請教我們部長根據國家語言發展報告指出臺語在30歲以下的族群能力日漸衰退部長看一下我這個表格\n\n8\n00:03:17,911 --> 00:03:35,967\n那對比剛才我提到這個數據也會發現其實我們台語的使用頻率跟台語的能力並沒有成正比意思就是說我們民眾其實對我們母語的意識是有提升的但是母語的能力是極速下滑的所以看完這些報告呢我不知道我們文化部對於針對這些問題你們有沒有制定相關的一些台語推廣的政策\n\n9\n00:03:40,020 --> 00:04:07,081\n有,其實我來半年我們花很多力氣在研究那個臺語怎麼樣推廣我們現在想到一些非常具體的方法包括我們建立臺語家庭還有我們的一些各種頻道直接用臺語那我是不是請負責的次長來跟您講比較詳細次長你把這個資料給我辦公室我接受我現在現場質詢的時間好再來我請部長跟我一下看一下這個投影片我下一張投影片\n\n10\n00:04:07,882 --> 00:04:24,671\n您看一下,你看你看懂不懂,其實這是用台語寫的。那本席發現,其實民眾對台語比較熟悉、比較精通,就是局限在聽跟講。讀跟寫呢,跟要熟悉又是另外一個難度。像我的台語算是上寫有練等欸,但是\n\n11\n00:04:25,271 --> 00:04:41,116\n本席要讀這篇報導也是有點困難我還要頓一下又腦中必須去翻譯過表示說其實我們台語的推廣不夠全面我們缺乏讀跟寫的能力沒有文字的輔助跟推廣其實台語的傳承的推廣是很有危機的部長您有辦法把這個投影片上面的字直接翻成台語啊唸出來嗎哪一段第一段就好了第一句第一段\n\n12\n00:04:56,229 --> 00:05:03,334\n第一段,他們年頭沒那麼多,想到的應該要想到的是不是這一段?第一句,為了要讓大家站在上面的國家議員,\n\n13\n00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,903\n我意思就是說其實我們講跟聽其實沒有什麼問題的情況之下讀跟寫這個部分我們在文字的輔助上是不是我們還有很大很大要努力的空間\n\n14\n00:05:32,896 --> 00:05:53,092\n部長您有看懂這篇報導它要表達的訴求,其實學者指出就是說國家語言發展中心主要是負責國家語言整體的研究保存以及政策等等的建議,是很難專一的推廣單一個語言,就像台語相關的事務其實分散在教育部跟文化部,那在文化部這邊應該是在我們的出版司吧?\n\n15\n00:05:54,870 --> 00:06:18,129\n其實我們沒有專責的單位所以我們要專責的來推廣台語沒有一個專責的負責的單位其實就是分散在各部門的業務它很難的專一那所以說我一直很期待我們文化部可以成立一個台語的專責單位之前我在質詢的時候也請我們文化部來研議不知道現在有沒有研究出怎樣的一個成果有沒有一個進度\n\n16\n00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,883\nadequatetothenationalresearchanddevelopmentcenter.\n\n17\n00:06:36,750 --> 00:06:36,770\n閱讀委員會議\n\n18\n00:06:51,499 --> 00:06:59,305\n所以在這個國家語言推廣中心裡面我們也就會有一個專責的一個部門一個單位來推做這些推廣的業務嗎?這個中心設置條例通過以後我們會才開始研究有什麼部門因為我們是文化部所以我們經常被要求包括客家客語啊或者是原住民語都會需要我們來一起來推動所以我們最近辦了很多場很多場的那個語言推廣\n\n19\n00:07:18,078 --> 00:07:20,920\nadequatetothepublic,indigenouspeoples,andindigenouspeople,etc.\n\n20\n00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,682\nThisisaverycomplexprocess,andwewilldoitcarefully.\n\n21\n00:07:37,073 --> 00:07:38,834\n閱讀者,請問對於這個發放的這個方案具體的方案我們已經有研擬出來了嗎?\n\n22\n00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:22,012\n有,我們自己內部已經討論完畢。它的使用的範圍跟限制還有一些防避措施還有一些萬一這些小孩子沒有手機我們要發什麼券這些我們都已經差不多完成了。\n\n23\n00:08:25,415 --> 00:08:40,007\n請問年齡兼程的年輕人有沒有特定的優惠方案,如何協助他們來領取?是透過家長嗎?還是透過怎樣的管道?各種方式都有,一種是原來他就有手機,一方面就是如果他沒有手機,另外我們會推這個\n\n24\n00:09:03,305 --> 00:09:04,306\n現在已經到一萬八千多家。\n\n25\n00:09:19,091 --> 00:09:27,593\n這是說明的還是說明的對象還是已經招進來的?已經應該招進來因為這個文化部的效果非常好所以想要參加的那個廠商越來越多那因為剛才部長您有提到過對於對這個房幣的措施就是這文化幣的轉賣轉讓的情況我們已經有這樣子的措施在眼裡也希望說這個我們要推廣這個文藝藝文活動我們也希望說更全面的讓我們的年輕人來參與\n\n26\n00:09:48,939 --> 00:09:53,042\nbicycliffe審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicycliffe\n\n27\n00:10:08,793 --> 00:10:21,205\n我們也希望說我們應該是每年的狀況來做滾動的檢討作為檢討的依據因為一年一年要進步一年一年我們範圍更多的時候我們可能發現的一些問題會更多這個部分也希望你們持續的來檢討相關的這些\n\n28\n00:10:27,451 --> 00:10:31,855\n文字局文化資產人才庫顯示傳統教師有950筆資料,修復工程工地負責人有1200筆資料。\n\n29\n00:10:42,845 --> 00:10:43,685\n閱讀委員會主管文化部主管委員會主管委員會主管委員會\n\n30\n00:11:11,793 --> 00:11:11,813\n閱讀委員會議\n\n31\n00:11:29,245 --> 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唸出來嗎哪一段第一段就好了第一句第一段\n第一段,他們年頭沒那麼多,想到的應該要想到的是不是這一段?第一句,為了要讓大家站在上面的國家議員,\n我意思就是說其實我們講跟聽其實沒有什麼問題的情況之下讀跟寫這個部分我們在文字的輔助上是不是我們還有很大很大要努力的空間\n部長您有看懂這篇報導它要表達的訴求,其實學者指出就是說國家語言發展中心主要是負責國家語言整體的研究保存以及政策等等的建議,是很難專一的推廣單一個語言,就像台語相關的事務其實分散在教育部跟文化部,那在文化部這邊應該是在我們的出版司吧?\n其實我們沒有專責的單位所以我們要專責的來推廣台語沒有一個專責的負責的單位其實就是分散在各部門的業務它很難的專一那所以說我一直很期待我們文化部可以成立一個台語的專責單位之前我在質詢的時候也請我們文化部來研議不知道現在有沒有研究出怎樣的一個成果有沒有一個進度\nadequate to the national research and development center.\n閱讀委員會議\n所以在這個國家語言推廣中心裡面我們也就會有一個專責的一個部門一個單位來推做這些推廣的業務嗎?這個中心設置條例通過以後我們會才開始研究有什麼部門因為我們是文化部所以我們經常被要求包括客家客語啊或者是原住民語都會需要我們來一起來推動所以我們最近辦了很多場很多場的那個語言推廣\nadequate to the public, indigenous peoples, and indigenous people, etc.\nThis is a very complex process, and we will do it 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