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00:00:39,800\n部長好我想首先在進入主題之前要恭喜剛半個小時之前得知的消息就是我們台灣楊雙子他的台灣漫遊錄獲得美國國家圖書館的翻譯組的大獎成為台灣文學史上的頭藝人喔那楊雙子剛用中文發表感言的時候他說書寫是為了回答台灣人是什麼人\n\n3\n00:00:44,244 --> 00:00:54,714\n在明年度的文化部的預算編列中,本席有三大核心關懷。第一個就是數位文史資料庫的建置。第二個是推動熱身登錄世界遺產。第三個是投資文化創意產業。我們先來談數位文史資料庫的建置。\n\n4\n00:01:20,903 --> 00:01:44,759\n只不過也同樣也一直以來都沒有好好規劃如何讓使用者有效的運用這些資料所以簡單來講文化部確實有在做資料的收集但有收集卻沒有系統這相當可惜喔那除了這個之外透過我們重建台灣藝術史計畫推動的這個文史資料庫的建置我們出現了一些\n\n5\n00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,362\nadequatetotheneedsofthecommunityandthepublic.\n\n6\n00:02:08,459 --> 00:02:34,996\n閱讀畫面這個網站喔他連台灣的重要作家的重要作品都查不到資料那所謂的文化文學的素材產生器也意義不明所以我覺得花費公帑可是交出這樣的工作成果我另有什麼樣的理由在大眾眼中看來就覺得其實文化部的形象也好或文學館的形象也好我就是受到一些傷害那同時我覺得也讓人家質疑說文化部到底\n\n7\n00:02:35,976 --> 00:03:05,083\n你們是不是做一趴或做一百趴都可以宣稱說我們有在做這個資料庫的建制喔所以想要請教部長的是說未來你是不是可以來努力做到本席要倡議的三大改革第一個就是來開放典藏資料高階的圖檔第二個我們要完整提供全民無償利用國家編轉的這個文史資料與文學作品第三個是系統化各個資料庫部長你的看法\n\n8\n00:03:07,057 --> 00:03:29,670\n關於那個高階圖檔這個我待會請文學館館長跟您回答您剛才講幾個問題我都承認因為當年我們是2019年用那個CHATGDP的2.0已經沒有辦法去符合現代運用者AI技術的期望那剛剛您講這幾點我想我們已經在開始改進我想請文學館館長跟您報告我們進度好嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:33,188 --> 00:03:58,769\n委員好有關那個委員所提到的相關資料庫的部分我們已經在修正了其他的部分的話我們會就也全面的在就程式跟資料面的部分在全面的去做檢視那有關高階圖檔的這個部分的話因為台文館的可能會涉及當代作家的一個著作權那如果有著作權沒有疑問的這個部分那我們\n\n10\n00:03:59,409 --> 00:04:16,797\n明年就是會開放稿要接圖檔的下載利用。那醫事報告。好。OK。好。謝謝。這個期待這個重新建置這個時間要快啦。好。那再來。急醫療人權文資於一生而且和世界和生病隔離史最緊密的相連的這個樂生療養院。我想\n\n11\n00:04:48,739 --> 00:05:13,101\n這是哪門子的世界遺產?作為我國我們文化主管機關文化部為什麼可以一方面說樂生是世界遺產的這個潛力點那一方面又放任這樣的潛力點受到這樣的破壞而且近乎與所謂地區的居民形成我覺得是物理上的嚴重隔離那先請教陳局長好了\n\n12\n00:05:15,063 --> 00:05:24,594\n請問這樣的懸空路橋的所在地,原貌到底是什麼樣子?樂森的願民們期待是應該有什麼樣的復原?我想你很清楚,請你簡單回答。\n\n13\n00:05:26,135 --> 00:05:32,461\n律師內閣委員會是文化景觀,有47棟建築物是文資身份,是歷史建築。世界遺產的潛力點除了建物及整體景觀之外,歷史的脈絡內容是它的重點。當然,可是它的入口意象,\n\n14\n00:05:55,372 --> 00:06:05,463\n閱名門希望的入口意向當然絕對不是把樂生搞得像現在面目全非的這種懸空入橋而是希望的是緩波大平台\n\n15\n00:06:07,156 --> 00:06:31,672\n我想局長你知道衛福部如何處理這個緩波大平台嗎?你知道嗎?就是說他們是說這個新莊機場已經啟用所以他沒有採納這個緩波大平台這個空間那可是這種說法認真講是這樣當然是基於事實或者是說還是基於對文化資產的無知這我倒是很納悶喔\n\n16\n00:06:33,653 --> 00:06:46,588\n這是衛福部的看法可是我覺得你身為一個文資管理機關我覺得我們應該要同意當然我們前提是同意樂生他是世界遺產的前立點可是在\n\n17\n00:06:47,509 --> 00:07:02,180\nbicyn作為你的角色在哪裡我覺得這個很重要事實上機場是已經啟用可是在價值面身為文化部我覺得還是要去努力去協調可行的文資修復方案不是嗎\n\n18\n00:07:03,441 --> 00:07:28,388\n所以依據文資保存法,如果地方主管機關有所不為而不作為,中央其實是可以介入來處理的。所以要請教的是說,如果衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府捷運局,集體對這個世界遺產潛力點的文資價值展現無知,那我覺得你們真的不該出手,或者你們要繼續怠惰下去嗎?局長。\n\n19\n00:07:32,244 --> 00:07:51,318\n因為衛福部現在有成立樂生園區整體發展計畫的督導小組還有推動小組,我們文化部文資局每一次會議都有去。所有的相關的修繕或者是相關的整建事項也都經過了新北市政府的文資審議委員會去審議通過的。\n\n20\n00:08:14,691 --> 00:08:18,694\n我是這樣建議啦就是說我們可不可以即刻來展開所謂的多方的對談就是說跟願名也好或者跟國際愛麗亞協會的台灣分會或者青年的樂生聯盟台灣蠻野新竹生態協會以及我們衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府協議局等等\n\n21\n00:08:36,306 --> 00:08:47,586\n厲不厲害?我們是不是來共同來對於這個所謂的世界遺產潛力點有一些共識然後來攜手來推動緩破大平安這個案的執行。\n\n22\n00:08:48,567 --> 00:09:03,899\n局長您的看法呢?我想我們文化部文資局非常願意也非常樂意來協調這個裡面的文資主管機關新北市政府還有這個整個熱身發展計畫的管理機關就是衛福部我們很樂意來協調。那請你一定要盡全力好不好?\n\n23\n00:09:07,922 --> 00:09:22,540\n最後我想要談到文化創意產業的投資我們被譽為中國首款的3A大作黑神話悟空這個一直是很多人關注的話題這個禮拜也入圍了世界年度的最佳遊戲\n\n24\n00:09:24,002 --> 00:09:48,458\n很多人的問題可能都問錯重點根本不是至於說台灣為什麼沒有而是我們的遊戲產業到底長了什麼樣子那文策院又有什麼樣的有效投資策略那我想我們知道我們台灣的獨立遊戲的投資者都是屬於小公司那在開放遊戲的過程中資金規模可能沒有有些限制\n\n25\n00:09:49,258 --> 00:10:08,365\nbicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查11\n\n26\n00:10:10,086 --> 00:10:26,910\nadequate代理的風險比較小或者他已經獲得國外市場的認可的這些海外遊戲所以如何將所謂的大型的遊戲公司然後把投資標的轉向來投資國內的國產遊戲我想這就是您的重責大任您的看法呢\n\n27\n00:10:27,712 --> 00:10:43,110\n謝謝委員講這一題事實上我自己個人其實過去在遊戲產業工作過20幾年了所以對遊戲業的發展雖然相當清楚大型的上市櫃遊戲公司因為國發基金目前是無法直接投入到公司的股權投資另外一方面是大型上市櫃公司因為想要避免風險\n\n28\n00:10:43,831 --> 00:10:46,573\nproportingtothegamedevelopment,\n\n29\n00:11:20,633 --> 00:11:44,580\n目前已經有大概五、六家小型獨立遊戲公司會透過我們的資金整合以及我們會媒合一個大型的國際的一個遊戲平台與他們合資希望讓他們直接透過我們的資金對接到國際平台然後他們也有能力應用比較大的資金去做比較大型的遊戲另外台灣科技公司這個營收也高有兩家台灣遊戲公司對於做電競的周邊一年營收有一兩千億在全球\n\n30\n00:11:45,900 --> 00:12:01,705\n我們覺得他們不要只做硬體希望他們做軟體那這兩家因為已經有媒體接載過了所以我也可以講就是華碩跟威剛目前兩家公司也跟我們正在進行合組大型公司跟基金來做ACG相關的投資以上跟委員報告\n\n31\n00:12:02,503 --> 00:12:23,461\n感謝您提到電競因為運動部成立建在選上所以我想未來這個電競其實是很重要的一環所以我想這個媒合要有賴您文策院要努力說讓台灣也能看見這個遊戲的市場那這一點再請文策院這邊努力謝謝委員好謝謝林經緯委員部長請回\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n49\t89\t李委員\n12541\t39800\t部長好我想首先在進入主題之前要恭喜剛半個小時之前得知的消息就是我們台灣楊雙子他的台灣漫遊錄獲得美國國家圖書館的翻譯組的大獎成為台灣文學史上的頭藝人喔那楊雙子剛用中文發表感言的時候他說書寫是為了回答台灣人是什麼人\n44244\t54714\t在明年度的文化部的預算編列中,本席有三大核心關懷。第一個就是數位文史資料庫的建置。第二個是推動熱身登錄世界遺產。第三個是投資文化創意產業。我們先來談數位文史資料庫的建置。\n63063\t80503\t議員議員\n80903\t104759\t只不過也同樣也一直以來都沒有好好規劃如何讓使用者有效的運用這些資料所以簡單來講文化部確實有在做資料的收集但有收集卻沒有系統這相當可惜喔那除了這個之外透過我們重建台灣藝術史計畫推動的這個文史資料庫的建置我們出現了一些\n105640\t108362\tadequate to the needs of the community and the public.\n128459\t154996\t閱讀畫面這個網站喔他連台灣的重要作家的重要作品都查不到資料那所謂的文化文學的素材產生器也意義不明所以我覺得花費公帑可是交出這樣的工作成果我另有什麼樣的理由在大眾眼中看來就覺得其實文化部的形象也好或文學館的形象也好我就是受到一些傷害那同時我覺得也讓人家質疑說文化部到底\n155976\t185083\t你們是不是做一趴或做一百趴都可以宣稱說我們有在做這個資料庫的建制喔所以想要請教部長的是說未來你是不是可以來努力做到本席要倡議的三大改革第一個就是來開放典藏資料高階的圖檔第二個我們要完整提供全民無償利用國家編轉的這個文史資料與文學作品第三個是系統化各個資料庫部長你的看法\n187057\t209670\t關於那個高階圖檔這個我待會請文學館館長跟您回答您剛才講幾個問題我都承認因為當年我們是2019年用那個CHATGDP的2.0已經沒有辦法去符合現代運用者AI技術的期望那剛剛您講這幾點我想我們已經在開始改進我想請文學館館長跟您報告我們進度好嗎?\n213188\t238769\t委員好有關那個委員所提到的相關資料庫的部分我們已經在修正了其他的部分的話我們會就也全面的在就程式跟資料面的部分在全面的去做檢視那有關高階圖檔的這個部分的話因為台文館的可能會涉及當代作家的一個著作權那如果有著作權沒有疑問的這個部分那我們\n239409\t256797\t 明年就是會開放稿要接圖檔的下載利用。那醫事報告。好。OK。好。謝謝。這個期待這個重新建置這個時間要快啦。好。那再來。急醫療人權文資於一生而且和世界和生病隔離史最緊密的相連的這個樂生療養院。我想\n259838\t287978\t議員議員議員議員\n288739\t313101\t這是哪門子的世界遺產?作為我國我們文化主管機關文化部為什麼可以一方面說樂生是世界遺產的這個潛力點那一方面又放任這樣的潛力點受到這樣的破壞而且近乎與所謂地區的居民形成我覺得是物理上的嚴重隔離那先請教陳局長好了\n315063\t324594\t請問這樣的懸空路橋的所在地,原貌到底是什麼樣子?樂森的願民們期待是應該有什麼樣的復原?我想你很清楚,請你簡單回答。\n326135\t332461\t律師內閣委員會是文化景觀,有47棟建築物是文資身份,是歷史建築。世界遺產的潛力點除了建物及整體景觀之外,歷史的脈絡內容是它的重點。當然,可是它的入口意象,\n355372\t365463\t閱名門希望的入口意向當然絕對不是把樂生搞得像現在面目全非的這種懸空入橋而是希望的是緩波大平台\n367156\t391672\t我想局長你知道衛福部如何處理這個緩波大平台嗎?你知道嗎?就是說他們是說這個新莊機場已經啟用所以他沒有採納這個緩波大平台這個空間那可是這種說法認真講是這樣當然是基於事實或者是說還是基於對文化資產的無知這我倒是很納悶喔\n393653\t406588\t這是衛福部的看法可是我覺得你身為一個文資管理機關我覺得我們應該要同意當然我們前提是同意樂生他是世界遺產的前立點可是在\n407509\t422180\tbicyn 作為你的角色在哪裡我覺得這個很重要事實上機場是已經啟用可是在價值面身為文化部我覺得還是要去努力去協調可行的文資修復方案不是嗎\n423441\t448388\t所以依據文資保存法,如果地方主管機關有所不為而不作為,中央其實是可以介入來處理的。所以要請教的是說,如果衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府捷運局,集體對這個世界遺產潛力點的文資價值展現無知,那我覺得你們真的不該出手,或者你們要繼續怠惰下去嗎?局長。\n452244\t471318\t因為衛福部現在有成立樂生園區整體發展計畫的督導小組還有推動小組,我們文化部文資局每一次會議都有去。所有的相關的修繕或者是相關的整建事項也都經過了新北市政府的文資審議委員會去審議通過的。\n475981\t493234\t議員議員議員\n494691\t498694\t我是這樣建議啦就是說我們可不可以即刻來展開所謂的多方的對談就是說跟願名也好或者跟國際愛麗亞協會的台灣分會或者青年的樂生聯盟台灣蠻野新竹生態協會以及我們衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府協議局等等\n516306\t527586\t厲不厲害?我們是不是來共同來對於這個所謂的世界遺產潛力點有一些共識然後來攜手來推動緩破大平安這個案的執行。\n528567\t543899\t局長您的看法呢?我想我們文化部文資局非常願意也非常樂意來協調這個裡面的文資主管機關新北市政府還有這個整個熱身發展計畫的管理機關就是衛福部我們很樂意來協調。那請你一定要盡全力好不好?\n547922\t562540\t最後我想要談到文化創意產業的投資我們被譽為中國首款的3A大作黑神話悟空這個一直是很多人關注的話題這個禮拜也入圍了世界年度的最佳遊戲\n564002\t588458\t很多人的問題可能都問錯重點根本不是至於說台灣為什麼沒有而是我們的遊戲產業到底長了什麼樣子那文策院又有什麼樣的有效投資策略那我想我們知道我們台灣的獨立遊戲的投資者都是屬於小公司那在開放遊戲的過程中資金規模可能沒有有些限制\n589258\t608365\tbicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查11\n610086\t626910\tadequate 代理的風險比較小或者他已經獲得國外市場的認可的這些海外遊戲所以如何將所謂的大型的遊戲公司然後把投資標的轉向來投資國內的國產遊戲我想這就是您的重責大任您的看法呢\n627712\t643110\t謝謝委員講這一題事實上我自己個人其實過去在遊戲產業工作過20幾年了所以對遊戲業的發展雖然相當清楚大型的上市櫃遊戲公司因為國發基金目前是無法直接投入到公司的股權投資另外一方面是大型上市櫃公司因為想要避免風險\n643831\t646573\tproporting to the game development,\n659241\t680333\t\n680633\t704580\t目前已經有大概五、六家小型獨立遊戲公司會透過我們的資金整合以及我們會媒合一個大型的國際的一個遊戲平台與他們合資希望讓他們直接透過我們的資金對接到國際平台然後他們也有能力應用比較大的資金去做比較大型的遊戲另外台灣科技公司這個營收也高有兩家台灣遊戲公司對於做電競的周邊一年營收有一兩千億在全球\n705900\t721705\t我們覺得他們不要只做硬體希望他們做軟體那這兩家因為已經有媒體接載過了所以我也可以講就是華碩跟威剛目前兩家公司也跟我們正在進行合組大型公司跟基金來做ACG相關的投資以上跟委員報告\n722503\t743461\t感謝您提到電競因為運動部成立建在選上所以我想未來這個電競其實是很重要的一環所以我想這個媒合要有賴您文策院要努力說讓台灣也能看見這個遊戲的市場那這一點再請文策院這邊努力謝謝委員好 謝謝林經緯委員部長請回\n","txt":"李委員\n部長好我想首先在進入主題之前要恭喜剛半個小時之前得知的消息就是我們台灣楊雙子他的台灣漫遊錄獲得美國國家圖書館的翻譯組的大獎成為台灣文學史上的頭藝人喔那楊雙子剛用中文發表感言的時候他說書寫是為了回答台灣人是什麼人\n在明年度的文化部的預算編列中,本席有三大核心關懷。第一個就是數位文史資料庫的建置。第二個是推動熱身登錄世界遺產。第三個是投資文化創意產業。我們先來談數位文史資料庫的建置。\n議員議員\n只不過也同樣也一直以來都沒有好好規劃如何讓使用者有效的運用這些資料所以簡單來講文化部確實有在做資料的收集但有收集卻沒有系統這相當可惜喔那除了這個之外透過我們重建台灣藝術史計畫推動的這個文史資料庫的建置我們出現了一些\nadequate to the needs of the community and the public.\n閱讀畫面這個網站喔他連台灣的重要作家的重要作品都查不到資料那所謂的文化文學的素材產生器也意義不明所以我覺得花費公帑可是交出這樣的工作成果我另有什麼樣的理由在大眾眼中看來就覺得其實文化部的形象也好或文學館的形象也好我就是受到一些傷害那同時我覺得也讓人家質疑說文化部到底\n你們是不是做一趴或做一百趴都可以宣稱說我們有在做這個資料庫的建制喔所以想要請教部長的是說未來你是不是可以來努力做到本席要倡議的三大改革第一個就是來開放典藏資料高階的圖檔第二個我們要完整提供全民無償利用國家編轉的這個文史資料與文學作品第三個是系統化各個資料庫部長你的看法\n關於那個高階圖檔這個我待會請文學館館長跟您回答您剛才講幾個問題我都承認因為當年我們是2019年用那個CHATGDP的2.0已經沒有辦法去符合現代運用者AI技術的期望那剛剛您講這幾點我想我們已經在開始改進我想請文學館館長跟您報告我們進度好嗎?\n委員好有關那個委員所提到的相關資料庫的部分我們已經在修正了其他的部分的話我們會就也全面的在就程式跟資料面的部分在全面的去做檢視那有關高階圖檔的這個部分的話因為台文館的可能會涉及當代作家的一個著作權那如果有著作權沒有疑問的這個部分那我們\n 明年就是會開放稿要接圖檔的下載利用。那醫事報告。好。OK。好。謝謝。這個期待這個重新建置這個時間要快啦。好。那再來。急醫療人權文資於一生而且和世界和生病隔離史最緊密的相連的這個樂生療養院。我想\n議員議員議員議員\n這是哪門子的世界遺產?作為我國我們文化主管機關文化部為什麼可以一方面說樂生是世界遺產的這個潛力點那一方面又放任這樣的潛力點受到這樣的破壞而且近乎與所謂地區的居民形成我覺得是物理上的嚴重隔離那先請教陳局長好了\n請問這樣的懸空路橋的所在地,原貌到底是什麼樣子?樂森的願民們期待是應該有什麼樣的復原?我想你很清楚,請你簡單回答。\n律師內閣委員會是文化景觀,有47棟建築物是文資身份,是歷史建築。世界遺產的潛力點除了建物及整體景觀之外,歷史的脈絡內容是它的重點。當然,可是它的入口意象,\n閱名門希望的入口意向當然絕對不是把樂生搞得像現在面目全非的這種懸空入橋而是希望的是緩波大平台\n我想局長你知道衛福部如何處理這個緩波大平台嗎?你知道嗎?就是說他們是說這個新莊機場已經啟用所以他沒有採納這個緩波大平台這個空間那可是這種說法認真講是這樣當然是基於事實或者是說還是基於對文化資產的無知這我倒是很納悶喔\n這是衛福部的看法可是我覺得你身為一個文資管理機關我覺得我們應該要同意當然我們前提是同意樂生他是世界遺產的前立點可是在\nbicyn 作為你的角色在哪裡我覺得這個很重要事實上機場是已經啟用可是在價值面身為文化部我覺得還是要去努力去協調可行的文資修復方案不是嗎\n所以依據文資保存法,如果地方主管機關有所不為而不作為,中央其實是可以介入來處理的。所以要請教的是說,如果衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府捷運局,集體對這個世界遺產潛力點的文資價值展現無知,那我覺得你們真的不該出手,或者你們要繼續怠惰下去嗎?局長。\n因為衛福部現在有成立樂生園區整體發展計畫的督導小組還有推動小組,我們文化部文資局每一次會議都有去。所有的相關的修繕或者是相關的整建事項也都經過了新北市政府的文資審議委員會去審議通過的。\n議員議員議員\n我是這樣建議啦就是說我們可不可以即刻來展開所謂的多方的對談就是說跟願名也好或者跟國際愛麗亞協會的台灣分會或者青年的樂生聯盟台灣蠻野新竹生態協會以及我們衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府協議局等等\n厲不厲害?我們是不是來共同來對於這個所謂的世界遺產潛力點有一些共識然後來攜手來推動緩破大平安這個案的執行。\n局長您的看法呢?我想我們文化部文資局非常願意也非常樂意來協調這個裡面的文資主管機關新北市政府還有這個整個熱身發展計畫的管理機關就是衛福部我們很樂意來協調。那請你一定要盡全力好不好?\n最後我想要談到文化創意產業的投資我們被譽為中國首款的3A大作黑神話悟空這個一直是很多人關注的話題這個禮拜也入圍了世界年度的最佳遊戲\n很多人的問題可能都問錯重點根本不是至於說台灣為什麼沒有而是我們的遊戲產業到底長了什麼樣子那文策院又有什麼樣的有效投資策略那我想我們知道我們台灣的獨立遊戲的投資者都是屬於小公司那在開放遊戲的過程中資金規模可能沒有有些限制\nbicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。 bicytter1、審查11\nadequate 代理的風險比較小或者他已經獲得國外市場的認可的這些海外遊戲所以如何將所謂的大型的遊戲公司然後把投資標的轉向來投資國內的國產遊戲我想這就是您的重責大任您的看法呢\n謝謝委員講這一題事實上我自己個人其實過去在遊戲產業工作過20幾年了所以對遊戲業的發展雖然相當清楚大型的上市櫃遊戲公司因為國發基金目前是無法直接投入到公司的股權投資另外一方面是大型上市櫃公司因為想要避免風險\nproporting to the game development,\n\n目前已經有大概五、六家小型獨立遊戲公司會透過我們的資金整合以及我們會媒合一個大型的國際的一個遊戲平台與他們合資希望讓他們直接透過我們的資金對接到國際平台然後他們也有能力應用比較大的資金去做比較大型的遊戲另外台灣科技公司這個營收也高有兩家台灣遊戲公司對於做電競的周邊一年營收有一兩千億在全球\n我們覺得他們不要只做硬體希望他們做軟體那這兩家因為已經有媒體接載過了所以我也可以講就是華碩跟威剛目前兩家公司也跟我們正在進行合組大型公司跟基金來做ACG相關的投資以上跟委員報告\n感謝您提到電競因為運動部成立建在選上所以我想未來這個電競其實是很重要的一環所以我想這個媒合要有賴您文策院要努力說讓台灣也能看見這個遊戲的市場那這一點再請文策院這邊努力謝謝委員好 謝謝林經緯委員部長請回\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.049 --> 00:00.089\n李委員\n\n00:12.541 --> 00:39.800\n部長好我想首先在進入主題之前要恭喜剛半個小時之前得知的消息就是我們台灣楊雙子他的台灣漫遊錄獲得美國國家圖書館的翻譯組的大獎成為台灣文學史上的頭藝人喔那楊雙子剛用中文發表感言的時候他說書寫是為了回答台灣人是什麼人\n\n00:44.244 --> 00:54.714\n在明年度的文化部的預算編列中,本席有三大核心關懷。第一個就是數位文史資料庫的建置。第二個是推動熱身登錄世界遺產。第三個是投資文化創意產業。我們先來談數位文史資料庫的建置。\n\n01:20.903 --> 01:44.759\n只不過也同樣也一直以來都沒有好好規劃如何讓使用者有效的運用這些資料所以簡單來講文化部確實有在做資料的收集但有收集卻沒有系統這相當可惜喔那除了這個之外透過我們重建台灣藝術史計畫推動的這個文史資料庫的建置我們出現了一些\n\n01:45.640 --> 01:48.362\nadequatetotheneedsofthecommunityandthepublic.\n\n02:08.459 --> 02:34.996\n閱讀畫面這個網站喔他連台灣的重要作家的重要作品都查不到資料那所謂的文化文學的素材產生器也意義不明所以我覺得花費公帑可是交出這樣的工作成果我另有什麼樣的理由在大眾眼中看來就覺得其實文化部的形象也好或文學館的形象也好我就是受到一些傷害那同時我覺得也讓人家質疑說文化部到底\n\n02:35.976 --> 03:05.083\n你們是不是做一趴或做一百趴都可以宣稱說我們有在做這個資料庫的建制喔所以想要請教部長的是說未來你是不是可以來努力做到本席要倡議的三大改革第一個就是來開放典藏資料高階的圖檔第二個我們要完整提供全民無償利用國家編轉的這個文史資料與文學作品第三個是系統化各個資料庫部長你的看法\n\n03:07.057 --> 03:29.670\n關於那個高階圖檔這個我待會請文學館館長跟您回答您剛才講幾個問題我都承認因為當年我們是2019年用那個CHATGDP的2.0已經沒有辦法去符合現代運用者AI技術的期望那剛剛您講這幾點我想我們已經在開始改進我想請文學館館長跟您報告我們進度好嗎?\n\n03:33.188 --> 03:58.769\n委員好有關那個委員所提到的相關資料庫的部分我們已經在修正了其他的部分的話我們會就也全面的在就程式跟資料面的部分在全面的去做檢視那有關高階圖檔的這個部分的話因為台文館的可能會涉及當代作家的一個著作權那如果有著作權沒有疑問的這個部分那我們\n\n03:59.409 --> 04:16.797\n明年就是會開放稿要接圖檔的下載利用。那醫事報告。好。OK。好。謝謝。這個期待這個重新建置這個時間要快啦。好。那再來。急醫療人權文資於一生而且和世界和生病隔離史最緊密的相連的這個樂生療養院。我想\n\n04:48.739 --> 05:13.101\n這是哪門子的世界遺產?作為我國我們文化主管機關文化部為什麼可以一方面說樂生是世界遺產的這個潛力點那一方面又放任這樣的潛力點受到這樣的破壞而且近乎與所謂地區的居民形成我覺得是物理上的嚴重隔離那先請教陳局長好了\n\n05:15.063 --> 05:24.594\n請問這樣的懸空路橋的所在地,原貌到底是什麼樣子?樂森的願民們期待是應該有什麼樣的復原?我想你很清楚,請你簡單回答。\n\n05:26.135 --> 05:32.461\n律師內閣委員會是文化景觀,有47棟建築物是文資身份,是歷史建築。世界遺產的潛力點除了建物及整體景觀之外,歷史的脈絡內容是它的重點。當然,可是它的入口意象,\n\n05:55.372 --> 06:05.463\n閱名門希望的入口意向當然絕對不是把樂生搞得像現在面目全非的這種懸空入橋而是希望的是緩波大平台\n\n06:07.156 --> 06:31.672\n我想局長你知道衛福部如何處理這個緩波大平台嗎?你知道嗎?就是說他們是說這個新莊機場已經啟用所以他沒有採納這個緩波大平台這個空間那可是這種說法認真講是這樣當然是基於事實或者是說還是基於對文化資產的無知這我倒是很納悶喔\n\n06:33.653 --> 06:46.588\n這是衛福部的看法可是我覺得你身為一個文資管理機關我覺得我們應該要同意當然我們前提是同意樂生他是世界遺產的前立點可是在\n\n06:47.509 --> 07:02.180\nbicyn作為你的角色在哪裡我覺得這個很重要事實上機場是已經啟用可是在價值面身為文化部我覺得還是要去努力去協調可行的文資修復方案不是嗎\n\n07:03.441 --> 07:28.388\n所以依據文資保存法,如果地方主管機關有所不為而不作為,中央其實是可以介入來處理的。所以要請教的是說,如果衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府捷運局,集體對這個世界遺產潛力點的文資價值展現無知,那我覺得你們真的不該出手,或者你們要繼續怠惰下去嗎?局長。\n\n07:32.244 --> 07:51.318\n因為衛福部現在有成立樂生園區整體發展計畫的督導小組還有推動小組,我們文化部文資局每一次會議都有去。所有的相關的修繕或者是相關的整建事項也都經過了新北市政府的文資審議委員會去審議通過的。\n\n08:14.691 --> 08:18.694\n我是這樣建議啦就是說我們可不可以即刻來展開所謂的多方的對談就是說跟願名也好或者跟國際愛麗亞協會的台灣分會或者青年的樂生聯盟台灣蠻野新竹生態協會以及我們衛福部、交安部、新北市政府、台北市政府協議局等等\n\n08:36.306 --> 08:47.586\n厲不厲害?我們是不是來共同來對於這個所謂的世界遺產潛力點有一些共識然後來攜手來推動緩破大平安這個案的執行。\n\n08:48.567 --> 09:03.899\n局長您的看法呢?我想我們文化部文資局非常願意也非常樂意來協調這個裡面的文資主管機關新北市政府還有這個整個熱身發展計畫的管理機關就是衛福部我們很樂意來協調。那請你一定要盡全力好不好?\n\n09:07.922 --> 09:22.540\n最後我想要談到文化創意產業的投資我們被譽為中國首款的3A大作黑神話悟空這個一直是很多人關注的話題這個禮拜也入圍了世界年度的最佳遊戲\n\n09:24.002 --> 09:48.458\n很多人的問題可能都問錯重點根本不是至於說台灣為什麼沒有而是我們的遊戲產業到底長了什麼樣子那文策院又有什麼樣的有效投資策略那我想我們知道我們台灣的獨立遊戲的投資者都是屬於小公司那在開放遊戲的過程中資金規模可能沒有有些限制\n\n09:49.258 --> 10:08.365\nbicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。bicytter1、審查11\n\n10:10.086 --> 10:26.910\nadequate代理的風險比較小或者他已經獲得國外市場的認可的這些海外遊戲所以如何將所謂的大型的遊戲公司然後把投資標的轉向來投資國內的國產遊戲我想這就是您的重責大任您的看法呢\n\n10:27.712 --> 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