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00:02:48,194\n厲我們的目標預期似乎還是有一些落後甚至在這個地區的部分好像亞洲的觀看率還是高於其他的歐美的國家那這個部分我們要怎麼樣來追趕?跟委員報告那因為這過去兩年我們確實報導很多亞太地區的議題跟台灣相關那麼亞洲的觀眾近戰來看的人數確實佔一點比例\n\n7\n00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:39,238\n好我們加油好不好真的是把台灣帶給世界好那另外其實我還想問一下就是我們部長的部分就是這個是新聞的部分那文化部的共諜案我想之後可能要再更謹慎因為這個共諜案其實是跟一個台商叫芳祥有關的那這個議審呢是遭判五年四個月那同時涉案的呢還有這個文化部的蒙藏文化中心的蒙式科研這個陳德門博焱\n\n8\n00:04:09,855 --> 00:04:29,470\nadequatetothis,dowehaveamorein-depthreviewforthispart?謝謝委員的這個題目。剛剛那個共諜案他得到的資料不是由文化部內部的環境跟資訊取得。那我們目前有三項作為,一個就是在現行法令我們強化\n\n9\n00:04:57,848 --> 00:05:04,992\nadequatetotherequirementoftherightsoftherightfulowner.\n\n10\n00:05:15,859 --> 00:05:16,199\n議員主席\n\n11\n00:05:35,259 --> 00:05:49,708\n好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個影視文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識\n\n12\n00:06:00,934 --> 00:06:26,087\n但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了\n\n13\n00:07:07,344 --> 00:07:07,844\n議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼\n\n14\n00:07:22,964 --> 00:07:40,729\nbicyn連續這1、20年已經沒有人在做兒少節目,因爲他擺的頻道跟時段是沒有廣告的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經\n\n15\n00:07:51,032 --> 00:07:52,553\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n\n16\n00:08:29,753 --> 00:08:52,406\n我們現在這一個月來已經訪問了好幾家的這個MSO的業者那他們都願意來配合現在正在協調評位的部分所以應該明年渴望第一季可以達成共識就可以定評了明年第一季就是好那大概會是在定評在哪一個區塊是在跟所有的兒童台或者是卡通台在一起嗎還是\n\n17\n00:08:53,827 --> 00:09:18,643\n現在還需要就是幾家MSO共同來確認那我們近期還會再繼續拜訪第二次所以會在他們做確認因為這個是他們比較商業機制那他們有幾個可以釋出的品位目前正在積極的協調當中好如果有更進一步的消息麻煩先讓我知道好嗎因為我相信很多人都在找小公司在哪裡我找不到啊我們這麼好的節目我們去挪威去了兩次欸\n\n18\n00:09:19,884 --> 00:09:20,685\n最後一個部分請教文化部長\n\n19\n00:09:28,479 --> 00:09:56,334\n部長昨天在財政委員會的聯席委員會上面其實這個我對您的回答其實相當的有點覺得遺憾因為我們特別提到所謂的這個文資的部分雖然經濟部他說這個礦坑和美礦坑確定已經是關閉了那也確定裡頭其實真的沒有辦法再做修復他給我的回答是這樣文化部應該要跳出來啊文化部不是應該是我們的主管機關是文資的主管機關嗎\n\n20\n00:09:59,217 --> 00:10:25,100\n議長,你怎麼沒有跳出來說我們負責這個部分我們把它敦促這個經濟部跟農業部一起我們來修復它難道就要眼睜睜的看著這已經被列為是歷史文化建物逐漸消失逐漸凋零禮拜二的時候我要去看這個和美礦坑文化部長要表態嗎我要表態不過在表態之前文資局局長跟你講一下\n\n21\n00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:45,601\n委員我想大家也關切這個案子我們文字局來我們來協調啦雖然說這個對因為現在地方的文化團體其實他們已經在支持喔只是說我們怎麼在公立公私立的協力合作我們來復甦這個部分讓它成為當地的一個真的歷史的建物可以保留可以火化\n\n22\n00:10:46,081 --> 00:11:15,232\n是,一樣的狀況就是說這個案子的因為它是歷史建築的話它的文資的主管機關是在地方政府那它的管理機關也是在那個林保署那邊我想我們中央主管機關我們願意來協調好,我想文化部必須要扛起這個角色啦那以免我們的這個文化遺產可能真的一個一個關閉然後就講了就沒有了沒有辦法再做活化沒有辦法再做保存我們怎麼跟我們的下一代交代啊\n\n23\n00:11:15,939 --> 00:11:36,215\n我們第一步我剛才跟委員講說我先把它列入我們的文化部在掌管的文化路徑它是個礦業路徑那也靠近新店碧潭那一帶我會希望用我們的方式先把它因為它是具有歷史性它是具有地方性跟特殊性先列入我們文化部自己可以做的部分\n\n24\n00:11:36,875 --> 00:11:36,895\n閱讀委員會議\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4287\t25036\t國委員好部長早安台灣Plus的問題我相信前面應該大家都已經討論很多了爭議不斷那我想台灣Plus的精神是Bring Taiwan to the World就是希望把台灣帶給世界但是其實在台灣帶給世界的時候最近的這些爭議從10月17號美國導演他特別在台灣 Undaunted\n29118\t57446\t主持人說台灣Plus堅持要用閩南,不知道這個原因是不是可以來做一下說明,事後是不是已經有跟導演來說已經調整修正,那針對這個導演他所說的到底是台灣Plus堅持用閩南,還是導演自己本身的一些口誤,或者是在事後沒有修正,這個部分怎麼說明?好,我請那個朱信長跟您報告。\n58871\t74005\t好委員,這個導演他表示這個是他自己的口誤,那麼在事後也跟我們溝通過在做更好的修正以後才會再上架,那目前這個內容他不會是原來那個台灣保险,他可能用台灣閩南跨埠代理這樣的方式來呈現,請諮詢專家的意見。\n76567\t104501\t好那當然這個爭議不只這一樁還包含我們看得到的就是另外一個節目這個也是在YouTube上面其實也是被大家這個多所質疑啦既然是要介紹特別介紹台灣的珍奶文化為什麼還要特別跑到這個原住民的部落然後請這些孩子們穿上他們自己傳統的服裝但是整個所有的內容其實跟他們的原住民的語言或只是他們要介紹的文化\n105081\t132607\tadequate 相關性都沒有那這個部分當然我們也也收到了這樣子的一個訊息啦吼那另外呢還包含這個11月8號那當然這個臺灣普拉斯做了一系列的這個美國大選的一些報導那我想呢這個用字哦飛輪這個用字其實當然也不是只有臺灣普拉斯用到啦吼其他的包含這個加拿大的公視或者是在這個澳洲的公視或者是美國的公視其實他們也都曾經用過這個\n133507\t152790\t\n153230\t168194\t厲我們的目標預期似乎還是有一些落後甚至在這個地區的部分好像亞洲的觀看率還是高於其他的歐美的國家那這個部分我們要怎麼樣來追趕?跟委員報告那因為這過去兩年我們確實報導很多亞太地區的議題跟台灣相關那麼亞洲的觀眾近戰來看的人數確實佔一點比例\n176596\t192978\t閱讀﹗\n193018\t219238\t好 我們加油好不好真的是把台灣帶給世界好 那另外其實我還想問一下就是我們部長的部分就是這個是新聞的部分那文化部的共諜案我想之後可能要再更謹慎因為這個共諜案其實是跟一個台商叫芳祥有關的那這個議審呢是遭判五年四個月那同時涉案的呢還有這個文化部的蒙藏文化中心的蒙式科研這個陳德門博焱\n221340\t249735\t議員議員議員議員\n249855\t269470\tadequate to this, do we have a more in-depth review for this part?謝謝委員的這個題目。剛剛那個共諜案他得到的資料不是由文化部內部的環境跟資訊取得。那我們目前有三項作為,一個就是在現行法令我們強化\n270691\t297688\t議員議員議員\n297848\t304992\tadequate to the requirement of the rights of the rightful owner.\n315859\t316199\t議員主席\n335259\t349708\t好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個影視文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識\n360934\t386087\t但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了\n387108\t406203\t\n406766\t426903\t議員議員議員\n427344\t427844\t議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼\n442964\t460729\tbicyn 連續這1、20年已經沒有人在做兒少節目,因爲他擺的頻道跟時段是沒有廣告的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經\n471032\t472553\t五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n491203\t509633\t​​​​​​​​​​​​\n509753\t532406\t我們現在這一個月來已經訪問了好幾家的這個MSO的業者那他們都願意來配合現在正在協調評位的部分所以應該明年渴望第一季可以達成共識就可以定評了明年第一季就是好那大概會是在定評在哪一個區塊是在跟所有的兒童台或者是卡通台在一起嗎還是\n533827\t558643\t現在還需要就是幾家MSO共同來確認那我們近期還會再繼續拜訪第二次所以會在他們做確認因為這個是他們比較商業機制那他們有幾個可以釋出的品位目前正在積極的協調當中好如果有更進一步的消息麻煩先讓我知道好嗎因為我相信很多人都在找小公司在哪裡我找不到啊我們這麼好的節目我們去挪威去了兩次欸\n559884\t560685\t最後一個部分請教文化部長\n568479\t596334\t部長昨天在財政委員會的聯席委員會上面其實這個我對您的回答其實相當的有點覺得遺憾因為我們特別提到所謂的這個文資的部分雖然經濟部他說這個礦坑和美礦坑確定已經是關閉了那也確定裡頭其實真的沒有辦法再做修復他給我的回答是這樣文化部應該要跳出來啊文化部不是應該是我們的主管機關是文資的主管機關嗎\n599217\t625100\t議長,你怎麼沒有跳出來說我們負責這個部分我們把它敦促這個經濟部跟農業部一起我們來修復它難道就要眼睜睜的看著這已經被列為是歷史文化建物逐漸消失逐漸凋零禮拜二的時候我要去看這個和美礦坑文化部長要表態嗎我要表態不過在表態之前文資局局長跟你講一下\n626930\t645601\t委員我想大家也關切這個案子我們文字局來我們來協調啦雖然說這個對因為現在地方的文化團體其實他們已經在支持喔只是說我們怎麼在公立公私立的協力合作我們來復甦這個部分讓它成為當地的一個真的歷史的建物可以保留可以火化\n646081\t675232\t是,一樣的狀況就是說這個案子的因為它是歷史建築的話它的文資的主管機關是在地方政府那它的管理機關也是在那個林保署那邊我想我們中央主管機關我們願意來協調好,我想文化部必須要扛起這個角色啦那以免我們的這個文化遺產可能真的一個一個關閉然後就講了就沒有了沒有辦法再做活化沒有辦法再做保存我們怎麼跟我們的下一代交代啊\n675939\t696215\t我們第一步我剛才跟委員講說我先把它列入我們的文化部在掌管的文化路徑它是個礦業路徑那也靠近新店碧潭那一帶我會希望用我們的方式先把它因為它是具有歷史性它是具有地方性跟特殊性先列入我們文化部自己可以做的部分\n696875\t696895\t閱讀委員會議\n","txt":"國委員好部長早安台灣Plus的問題我相信前面應該大家都已經討論很多了爭議不斷那我想台灣Plus的精神是Bring Taiwan to the World就是希望把台灣帶給世界但是其實在台灣帶給世界的時候最近的這些爭議從10月17號美國導演他特別在台灣 Undaunted\n主持人說台灣Plus堅持要用閩南,不知道這個原因是不是可以來做一下說明,事後是不是已經有跟導演來說已經調整修正,那針對這個導演他所說的到底是台灣Plus堅持用閩南,還是導演自己本身的一些口誤,或者是在事後沒有修正,這個部分怎麼說明?好,我請那個朱信長跟您報告。\n好委員,這個導演他表示這個是他自己的口誤,那麼在事後也跟我們溝通過在做更好的修正以後才會再上架,那目前這個內容他不會是原來那個台灣保险,他可能用台灣閩南跨埠代理這樣的方式來呈現,請諮詢專家的意見。\n好那當然這個爭議不只這一樁還包含我們看得到的就是另外一個節目這個也是在YouTube上面其實也是被大家這個多所質疑啦既然是要介紹特別介紹台灣的珍奶文化為什麼還要特別跑到這個原住民的部落然後請這些孩子們穿上他們自己傳統的服裝但是整個所有的內容其實跟他們的原住民的語言或只是他們要介紹的文化\nadequate 相關性都沒有那這個部分當然我們也也收到了這樣子的一個訊息啦吼那另外呢還包含這個11月8號那當然這個臺灣普拉斯做了一系列的這個美國大選的一些報導那我想呢這個用字哦飛輪這個用字其實當然也不是只有臺灣普拉斯用到啦吼其他的包含這個加拿大的公視或者是在這個澳洲的公視或者是美國的公視其實他們也都曾經用過這個\n\n厲我們的目標預期似乎還是有一些落後甚至在這個地區的部分好像亞洲的觀看率還是高於其他的歐美的國家那這個部分我們要怎麼樣來追趕?跟委員報告那因為這過去兩年我們確實報導很多亞太地區的議題跟台灣相關那麼亞洲的觀眾近戰來看的人數確實佔一點比例\n閱讀﹗\n好 我們加油好不好真的是把台灣帶給世界好 那另外其實我還想問一下就是我們部長的部分就是這個是新聞的部分那文化部的共諜案我想之後可能要再更謹慎因為這個共諜案其實是跟一個台商叫芳祥有關的那這個議審呢是遭判五年四個月那同時涉案的呢還有這個文化部的蒙藏文化中心的蒙式科研這個陳德門博焱\n議員議員議員議員\nadequate to this, do we have a more in-depth review for this part?謝謝委員的這個題目。剛剛那個共諜案他得到的資料不是由文化部內部的環境跟資訊取得。那我們目前有三項作為,一個就是在現行法令我們強化\n議員議員議員\nadequate to the requirement of the rights of the rightful owner.\n議員主席\n好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個影視文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識\n但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了\n\n議員議員議員\n議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼\nbicyn 連續這1、20年已經沒有人在做兒少節目,因爲他擺的頻道跟時段是沒有廣告的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經沒有製作單位可以生存,都是買現成的。因爲他沒有製作單位,他已經\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n​​​​​​​​​​​​\n我們現在這一個月來已經訪問了好幾家的這個MSO的業者那他們都願意來配合現在正在協調評位的部分所以應該明年渴望第一季可以達成共識就可以定評了明年第一季就是好那大概會是在定評在哪一個區塊是在跟所有的兒童台或者是卡通台在一起嗎還是\n現在還需要就是幾家MSO共同來確認那我們近期還會再繼續拜訪第二次所以會在他們做確認因為這個是他們比較商業機制那他們有幾個可以釋出的品位目前正在積極的協調當中好如果有更進一步的消息麻煩先讓我知道好嗎因為我相信很多人都在找小公司在哪裡我找不到啊我們這麼好的節目我們去挪威去了兩次欸\n最後一個部分請教文化部長\n部長昨天在財政委員會的聯席委員會上面其實這個我對您的回答其實相當的有點覺得遺憾因為我們特別提到所謂的這個文資的部分雖然經濟部他說這個礦坑和美礦坑確定已經是關閉了那也確定裡頭其實真的沒有辦法再做修復他給我的回答是這樣文化部應該要跳出來啊文化部不是應該是我們的主管機關是文資的主管機關嗎\n議長,你怎麼沒有跳出來說我們負責這個部分我們把它敦促這個經濟部跟農業部一起我們來修復它難道就要眼睜睜的看著這已經被列為是歷史文化建物逐漸消失逐漸凋零禮拜二的時候我要去看這個和美礦坑文化部長要表態嗎我要表態不過在表態之前文資局局長跟你講一下\n委員我想大家也關切這個案子我們文字局來我們來協調啦雖然說這個對因為現在地方的文化團體其實他們已經在支持喔只是說我們怎麼在公立公私立的協力合作我們來復甦這個部分讓它成為當地的一個真的歷史的建物可以保留可以火化\n是,一樣的狀況就是說這個案子的因為它是歷史建築的話它的文資的主管機關是在地方政府那它的管理機關也是在那個林保署那邊我想我們中央主管機關我們願意來協調好,我想文化部必須要扛起這個角色啦那以免我們的這個文化遺產可能真的一個一個關閉然後就講了就沒有了沒有辦法再做活化沒有辦法再做保存我們怎麼跟我們的下一代交代啊\n我們第一步我剛才跟委員講說我先把它列入我們的文化部在掌管的文化路徑它是個礦業路徑那也靠近新店碧潭那一帶我會希望用我們的方式先把它因為它是具有歷史性它是具有地方性跟特殊性先列入我們文化部自己可以做的部分\n閱讀委員會議\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.287 --> 00:25.036\n國委員好部長早安台灣Plus的問題我相信前面應該大家都已經討論很多了爭議不斷那我想台灣Plus的精神是BringTaiwantotheWorld就是希望把台灣帶給世界但是其實在台灣帶給世界的時候最近的這些爭議從10月17號美國導演他特別在台灣Undaunted\n\n00:29.118 --> 00:57.446\n主持人說台灣Plus堅持要用閩南,不知道這個原因是不是可以來做一下說明,事後是不是已經有跟導演來說已經調整修正,那針對這個導演他所說的到底是台灣Plus堅持用閩南,還是導演自己本身的一些口誤,或者是在事後沒有修正,這個部分怎麼說明?好,我請那個朱信長跟您報告。\n\n00:58.871 --> 01:14.005\n好委員,這個導演他表示這個是他自己的口誤,那麼在事後也跟我們溝通過在做更好的修正以後才會再上架,那目前這個內容他不會是原來那個台灣保险,他可能用台灣閩南跨埠代理這樣的方式來呈現,請諮詢專家的意見。\n\n01:16.567 --> 01:44.501\n好那當然這個爭議不只這一樁還包含我們看得到的就是另外一個節目這個也是在YouTube上面其實也是被大家這個多所質疑啦既然是要介紹特別介紹台灣的珍奶文化為什麼還要特別跑到這個原住民的部落然後請這些孩子們穿上他們自己傳統的服裝但是整個所有的內容其實跟他們的原住民的語言或只是他們要介紹的文化\n\n01:45.081 --> 02:12.607\nadequate相關性都沒有那這個部分當然我們也也收到了這樣子的一個訊息啦吼那另外呢還包含這個11月8號那當然這個臺灣普拉斯做了一系列的這個美國大選的一些報導那我想呢這個用字哦飛輪這個用字其實當然也不是只有臺灣普拉斯用到啦吼其他的包含這個加拿大的公視或者是在這個澳洲的公視或者是美國的公視其實他們也都曾經用過這個\n\n02:33.230 --> 02:48.194\n厲我們的目標預期似乎還是有一些落後甚至在這個地區的部分好像亞洲的觀看率還是高於其他的歐美的國家那這個部分我們要怎麼樣來追趕?跟委員報告那因為這過去兩年我們確實報導很多亞太地區的議題跟台灣相關那麼亞洲的觀眾近戰來看的人數確實佔一點比例\n\n03:13.018 --> 03:39.238\n好我們加油好不好真的是把台灣帶給世界好那另外其實我還想問一下就是我們部長的部分就是這個是新聞的部分那文化部的共諜案我想之後可能要再更謹慎因為這個共諜案其實是跟一個台商叫芳祥有關的那這個議審呢是遭判五年四個月那同時涉案的呢還有這個文化部的蒙藏文化中心的蒙式科研這個陳德門博焱\n\n04:09.855 --> 04:29.470\nadequatetothis,dowehaveamorein-depthreviewforthispart?謝謝委員的這個題目。剛剛那個共諜案他得到的資料不是由文化部內部的環境跟資訊取得。那我們目前有三項作為,一個就是在現行法令我們強化\n\n04:57.848 --> 05:04.992\nadequatetotherequirementoftherightsoftherightfulowner.\n\n05:15.859 --> 05:16.199\n議員主席\n\n05:35.259 --> 05:49.708\n好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個影視文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識\n\n06:00.934 --> 06:26.087\n但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了\n\n07:07.344 --> 07:07.844\n議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼\n\n07:22.964 --> 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owner."},{"start":315.859,"end":316.199,"text":"議員主席"},{"start":335.259,"end":349.708,"text":"好那剛剛其實培育委員有特別提到就是我們在兒少節目的部分那上個會期其實我們也特別都有在針對兒少的自治的節目其實我們都非常非常的關心那我先講一般的兒少節目兒童節目其實製作是非常難度非常的高我想這也是我們自己本身曾經在這個影視文化產業當中其實大家都有一個共識"},{"start":360.934,"end":386.087,"text":"但是呢很辛苦的就是在兒童節目兒少節目的製作的成本之低齁這個我相信也是其來有質齁那包含一個節目如果含棚含布景扣掉了一些硬體還要包含他的後製還要包含他的動畫其實真的一級的預算我所熟知的一個製作人他製作兒童節目大概將近快要超過10年以上的一個時間了"},{"start":387.108,"end":406.203,"text":""},{"start":406.766,"end":426.903,"text":"議員議員議員"},{"start":427.344,"end":427.844,"text":"議員剛才問到一個很關鍵的問題就是台灣不曉得為什麼"},{"start":442.964,"end":460.729,"text":" bicyn 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