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00:01:05,159\n尤其國發會特別的支持我們苗栗縣結果我們爭取了主覽科學研期第二期、投入科學研期還有貨農產業專業研期特別的感謝你還有我們國土發展次\n\n4\n00:01:05,939 --> 00:01:30,448\n我們的黃處長還有彭副主任再次謝謝啊容乃要繼續給我們幫忙跟協助好不好是的謝謝你來表露你來看我們苗栗實在是很有發展的地方比南部還要好不要天天顧著南部那一個地點是會花絕的寶所以請你一定要多多的跟我們關心支持是的第二點\n\n5\n00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:55,677\n剛剛我聽了賴若瑋委員談到地方創生其實地方創生是上山下海那我今天也特別感謝我們黃處長在苗栗縣配合的三個景點都非常的成功我特別感謝他那今天我為什麼感謝他因為他真的陪著上山下海他到地方又不怎麼講話\n\n6\n00:01:56,917 --> 00:02:12,575\n我在旁邊問他的意見他又很客氣但是每一次提的意見非常的中困所以在地方暢順上我們在苗栗縣有很大發展我再大力的推展我一直跟黃社長說你也跟你們主委說一下\n\n7\n00:02:14,918 --> 00:02:33,340\n你也編一個規劃費用可行性評估,讓地方開始財政有困難的地方,讓他們在那裡營造一個真正的一個好的規劃。這台電動車有很多。所以,劉志偉,這點我給你清新體驗,而且我是親自去推動的。\n\n8\n00:02:34,241 --> 00:02:45,643\n我希望這個兩天就進去有一個規劃費用可行性評估對地方的幫忙很大地方創生財會繼續的推動,這樣好嗎?我們會來用事辦的方式來考慮我想是不是說我找個時間找你一下你找個時間我就會跟你說內部不然你這樣做我自己知道又不便你講講的話就得罪了很多\n\n9\n00:03:05,737 --> 00:03:19,442\n一些團體還有一些人再來我一件問題叫你做科研你都沒什麼在關心我看了一個報導說國發會10年新高國發會通過114年公建預算2405億交通建設占過半\n\n10\n00:03:31,451 --> 00:03:39,904\n這裏有什麼就是在114年的公務共建設預算跟前瞻預期前瞻預期有\n\n11\n00:03:43,573 --> 00:04:03,223\n幾百億你知道嗎?七百多億啊七百零三億啊七百零三億啊剩下的就剩下差不多一千七百億講啊但是我等一下就跟你講啊我講拜託拜託這個資料給我你把我的話當耳邊風我下次招委我就要叫來修會了我跟你講\n\n12\n00:04:04,898 --> 00:04:33,432\n這裏面我要你說各部會提出266項的計劃前瞻第5期是49項的公共建設計劃我說叫你大的項目內給我你們無動於衷啊有啦我只請你去看一下我安然要挨借你大的計劃出來我才能看預算師比較容易找到重點\n\n13\n00:04:34,718 --> 00:04:35,698\n我今天看到一個新聞\n\n14\n00:05:06,423 --> 00:05:22,438\n我覺得說韓國把金融企業外銷到波蘭哪裡很多將近超過500億美金我回家我就想到一些問題那你曉得我們國外基金有投資到中鋼的那個是吧\n\n15\n00:05:29,214 --> 00:05:54,691\n省達海的公司有64億兩年這樣都開掉一年了十億但是我看他們發的新聞稿我覺得很悲哀說你台灣的資助率你又把它取消掉我覺得很莫名其妙中鋼真的沒有什麼如果這樣的作為四季鋼小公司人家一直這樣做過來\n\n16\n00:05:56,592 --> 00:06:01,318\n中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院基金、花東地區永續發展\n\n17\n00:06:16,394 --> 00:06:38,155\n他的團隊裏面很多南部的勢力太深了中港在南部地方是插手的很多這裏面牽扯很多問題今天要解決這個問題我建議各位啊你要把中港那個什麼打星達、海基啊要弄好排一個考察\n\n18\n00:06:39,076 --> 00:07:06,464\n排一個四季綱排一個中綱去考察你比較出來就能了解問題之所在我排過了你沒去啊不是你排過我怎麼不曉得你也沒有通知我去我上次你以後要找專家或人的專家過去你要兩個比較一下就能發覺問題在哪裡那你們還要不要繼續投資新黨海基嗎我們現在我們已經\n\n19\n00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:32,558\n不會再加碼了對!這一點我就贊成一間大公司請他決定做出來比小公司還不止中鋼真的要檢討不能投資還有不能投資他什麼綠電的買賣平台用的不行還要吃軟的中鋼這麼沒有骨氣啊中鋼未來的經營也要特別的注意啊\n\n20\n00:07:34,045 --> 00:07:55,831\n我希望這點要特別注意還有國產資助化現在說要開放您講是在損壞台灣的資金出賣台灣那歐洲公司WTO說要告我們怕什麼?川普保護旨意就出來了自由貿易跟保護旨意現在在戰內你怕什麼?\n\n21\n00:07:58,226 --> 00:08:07,405\n你給歐洲人一這樣威脅、恐嚇你們就下來還跟他搭配其實他們要的就是這些東西你知道他們給\n\n22\n00:08:15,427 --> 00:08:31,430\n我以前提過了好幾次啊中港真的不爭氣你欠漢港漢港你曉得司機去港的漢接的工人找不到他從哪裡越南跳過來那個所屬你的學問這麼多你怎麼想成那個劉志輝你執行管理\n\n23\n00:08:38,921 --> 00:09:05,396\n顧問公司的董事長,我相信你很了解民生的案案因素。是,我了解。好不好,這一點再來啦。啊,我們只要講啊,你連封店都遮不住,韓國、地北、金工企業,你如何去抗中保台,每天都要我們講抗中保台。封店都遮不住,要如何抗中保台。我實在也想不通啊。\n\n24\n00:09:06,499 --> 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--> 00:15.575\n臣昌明委員主席好徐席怒他現在有請我們國會我們留主委請國會留主委\n\n00:24.540 --> 00:47.409\n陳委員早其實啊我們的召委邱召委是很有理性很謙和的人那今天發生這樣的事情真的是國會要檢討檢討是的好不好是的那我今天第一個我首先仍然要感謝國會對於行政院核定桃子苗大溪谷計畫\n\n00:48.789 --> 01:05.159\n尤其國發會特別的支持我們苗栗縣結果我們爭取了主覽科學研期第二期、投入科學研期還有貨農產業專業研期特別的感謝你還有我們國土發展次\n\n01:05.939 --> 01:30.448\n我們的黃處長還有彭副主任再次謝謝啊容乃要繼續給我們幫忙跟協助好不好是的謝謝你來表露你來看我們苗栗實在是很有發展的地方比南部還要好不要天天顧著南部那一個地點是會花絕的寶所以請你一定要多多的跟我們關心支持是的第二點\n\n01:32.630 --> 01:55.677\n剛剛我聽了賴若瑋委員談到地方創生其實地方創生是上山下海那我今天也特別感謝我們黃處長在苗栗縣配合的三個景點都非常的成功我特別感謝他那今天我為什麼感謝他因為他真的陪著上山下海他到地方又不怎麼講話\n\n01:56.917 --> 02:12.575\n我在旁邊問他的意見他又很客氣但是每一次提的意見非常的中困所以在地方暢順上我們在苗栗縣有很大發展我再大力的推展我一直跟黃社長說你也跟你們主委說一下\n\n02:14.918 --> 02:33.340\n你也編一個規劃費用可行性評估,讓地方開始財政有困難的地方,讓他們在那裡營造一個真正的一個好的規劃。這台電動車有很多。所以,劉志偉,這點我給你清新體驗,而且我是親自去推動的。\n\n02:34.241 --> 02:45.643\n我希望這個兩天就進去有一個規劃費用可行性評估對地方的幫忙很大地方創生財會繼續的推動,這樣好嗎?我們會來用事辦的方式來考慮我想是不是說我找個時間找你一下你找個時間我就會跟你說內部不然你這樣做我自己知道又不便你講講的話就得罪了很多\n\n03:05.737 --> 03:19.442\n一些團體還有一些人再來我一件問題叫你做科研你都沒什麼在關心我看了一個報導說國發會10年新高國發會通過114年公建預算2405億交通建設占過半\n\n03:31.451 --> 03:39.904\n這裏有什麼就是在114年的公務共建設預算跟前瞻預期前瞻預期有\n\n03:43.573 --> 04:03.223\n幾百億你知道嗎?七百多億啊七百零三億啊七百零三億啊剩下的就剩下差不多一千七百億講啊但是我等一下就跟你講啊我講拜託拜託這個資料給我你把我的話當耳邊風我下次招委我就要叫來修會了我跟你講\n\n04:04.898 --> 04:33.432\n這裏面我要你說各部會提出266項的計劃前瞻第5期是49項的公共建設計劃我說叫你大的項目內給我你們無動於衷啊有啦我只請你去看一下我安然要挨借你大的計劃出來我才能看預算師比較容易找到重點\n\n04:34.718 --> 04:35.698\n我今天看到一個新聞\n\n05:06.423 --> 05:22.438\n我覺得說韓國把金融企業外銷到波蘭哪裡很多將近超過500億美金我回家我就想到一些問題那你曉得我們國外基金有投資到中鋼的那個是吧\n\n05:29.214 --> 05:54.691\n省達海的公司有64億兩年這樣都開掉一年了十億但是我看他們發的新聞稿我覺得很悲哀說你台灣的資助率你又把它取消掉我覺得很莫名其妙中鋼真的沒有什麼如果這樣的作為四季鋼小公司人家一直這樣做過來\n\n05:56.592 --> 06:01.318\n中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院基金、花東地區永續發展\n\n06:16.394 --> 06:38.155\n他的團隊裏面很多南部的勢力太深了中港在南部地方是插手的很多這裏面牽扯很多問題今天要解決這個問題我建議各位啊你要把中港那個什麼打星達、海基啊要弄好排一個考察\n\n06:39.076 --> 07:06.464\n排一個四季綱排一個中綱去考察你比較出來就能了解問題之所在我排過了你沒去啊不是你排過我怎麼不曉得你也沒有通知我去我上次你以後要找專家或人的專家過去你要兩個比較一下就能發覺問題在哪裡那你們還要不要繼續投資新黨海基嗎我們現在我們已經\n\n07:09.329 --> 07:32.558\n不會再加碼了對!這一點我就贊成一間大公司請他決定做出來比小公司還不止中鋼真的要檢討不能投資還有不能投資他什麼綠電的買賣平台用的不行還要吃軟的中鋼這麼沒有骨氣啊中鋼未來的經營也要特別的注意啊\n\n07:34.045 --> 07:55.831\n我希望這點要特別注意還有國產資助化現在說要開放您講是在損壞台灣的資金出賣台灣那歐洲公司WTO說要告我們怕什麼?川普保護旨意就出來了自由貿易跟保護旨意現在在戰內你怕什麼?\n\n07:58.226 --> 08:07.405\n你給歐洲人一這樣威脅、恐嚇你們就下來還跟他搭配其實他們要的就是這些東西你知道他們給\n\n08:15.427 --> 08:31.430\n我以前提過了好幾次啊中港真的不爭氣你欠漢港漢港你曉得司機去港的漢接的工人找不到他從哪裡越南跳過來那個所屬你的學問這麼多你怎麼想成那個劉志輝你執行管理\n\n08:38.921 --> 09:05.396\n顧問公司的董事長,我相信你很了解民生的案案因素。是,我了解。好不好,這一點再來啦。啊,我們只要講啊,你連封店都遮不住,韓國、地北、金工企業,你如何去抗中保台,每天都要我們講抗中保台。封店都遮不住,要如何抗中保台。我實在也想不通啊。\n\n09:06.499 --> 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