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00:02:43,630\n目標是為了追求卓越我們不可能去定一個很消極的目標來讓國家追尋太過於樂觀嗎你這個都是以110年到113年的數據給你做看\n\n9\n00:02:51,314 --> 00:03:05,769\n在我們的經驗裡面其實我們這個東西就是要積極的努力去做了那找各種方法你的積極努力的話你有沒有想到說那整個消費市場的管控上能不能達到你的目標你要怎麼做\n\n10\n00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:27,985\n這個就是我們其實我們現在定期都在看這裡面的數字的整合我們每個月都有做適度的調整那我們包括從物價的委員會裡面所以你要去因應啊物價一直飆漲你不能讓水一直漲啊我們有在因應所以現在的CPI不只核心CPI也降到了2以下了那核心CPI就一直在1.8以內\n\n11\n00:03:28,965 --> 00:03:39,047\n所以這都是主委這都給你參考的但是你要努力的去因應怎麼樣去做對不對不能隨意讓這物價一直飆你看物價一直飆這CPI物價一直飆你還是要控管住嘛那尤其是這個人均那個GDP這個部分的話你要達到4萬那到今年的話是3萬3美元那你說能夠超越日本跟韓國最好是以以色列來併價期需那你的這個部分的話\n\n12\n00:03:58,390 --> 00:04:15,399\n那就要發展像賴總統講的就是半導體跟這個AI的產業因為這個是高薪的嘛你才有辦法把這個人均值提高起來那尤其是我們現在很多的製造業相關的產業他們就沒有辦法這麼高的薪水那你要怎麼去突破呢\n\n13\n00:04:16,836 --> 00:04:25,120\n我們現在的做法就是我們要盡量開創高薪的產業讓高薪的我知道我已經告訴你了對不對那從業製造業各方面的話那怎麼辦你不能全部依賴是這個半導體跟這個AI產業啊\n\n14\n00:04:34,298 --> 00:04:52,571\n經濟的成長他們是其他的像從業從事這個沒有相關的這半導體的產業的話他們是沒有辦法得到這經濟的紅利我們對於這個傳統產業我們希望他們轉型進入高質化的領域比如說像以螺絲扣件來講我們希望他進到了一定要轉型\n\n15\n00:04:54,813 --> 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留委員早\n賴總統他在上任的時候有提出了這個五大信賴產業同時也宣布了要延長這個我們台灣的投資三大方案也宣示了要讓我們的半導體還有AI的產業作為主軸\n所以要讓不管是外商還是台商都能有意願的回來投資臺灣在這方面的話我們國發會也提出了國家發展的計劃尤其在這發展的計劃裡面總體經濟發展的目標未來這4年\n經濟成長率2.8-3.6%事業率平均3.2-3.5%核心消費物價指數上漲率平均2%以下尤其是117年會達到人均GDP超過4萬美元本期請問的就是你怎麼樣去設定這個目標是依據什麼\n我們是依據這個情勢的研判跟這個情勢的研判那以目前來講我們的經濟成長今年應該是3.96到4之間失業率目前是在3.47左右那核心的通膨一直在1.8以下所以你是知道以前的數據嗎就看以前的數據就對了整個社會的不全然還有經濟的發展經濟的發展好\n那你這因為你訂出的這些目標我剛才念了你訂的這些目標但是我們看到在110年到113年的時候你們的經濟成長率大概平均在這個3.3到3.7但是你看到111年到112年你們這個平均值就是數字都已經是沒有達標的情形是不是那你又依照這個那你又訂得更高\n那尤其是這個CPI這個部分的話你看到你的上漲率你要控制在這個1.0到1.5但是在這個111年他們都是一直下降提高那你都沒有控管好那你怎麼去定你的目標呢我們都思考過\n目標是為了追求卓越我們不可能去定一個很消極的目標來讓國家追尋太過於樂觀嗎你這個都是以110年到113年的數據給你做看\n在我們的經驗裡面其實我們這個東西就是要積極的努力去做了那找各種方法你的積極努力的話你有沒有想到說那整個消費市場的管控上能不能達到你的目標你要怎麼做\n這個就是我們其實我們現在定期都在看這裡面的數字的整合我們每個月都有做適度的調整那我們包括從物價的委員會裡面所以你要去因應啊物價一直飆漲你不能讓水一直漲啊我們有在因應所以現在的CPI不只核心CPI也降到了2以下了那核心CPI就一直在1.8以內\n所以這都是主委這都給你參考的但是你要努力的去因應怎麼樣去做對不對不能隨意讓這物價一直飆你看物價一直飆這CPI物價一直飆你還是要控管住嘛那尤其是這個人均那個GDP這個部分的話你要達到4萬那到今年的話是3萬3美元那你說能夠超越日本跟韓國最好是以以色列來併價期需那你的這個部分的話\n那就要發展像賴總統講的就是半導體跟這個AI的產業因為這個是高薪的嘛你才有辦法把這個人均值提高起來那尤其是我們現在很多的製造業相關的產業他們就沒有辦法這麼高的薪水那你要怎麼去突破呢\n我們現在的做法就是我們要盡量開創高薪的產業讓高薪的我知道我已經告訴你了對不對那從業製造業各方面的話那怎麼辦你不能全部依賴是這個半導體跟這個AI產業啊\n經濟的成長他們是其他的像從業從事這個沒有相關的這半導體的產業的話他們是沒有辦法得到這經濟的紅利我們對於這個傳統產業我們希望他們轉型進入高質化的領域比如說像以螺絲扣件來講我們希望他進到了一定要轉型\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院主管、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展\n委員會提供的資料\n我們現在的做法是希望增加高薪就業機會之後會增加所得稅收然後我們透過這個所得稅收的增加去補助輔助的比較收入比較低的這個族群所以我們透過福利政策去彌補它\n我們希望經濟成長的當下我們也不要讓這貧富差距越來越大我們一定要看看怎麼樣讓這個分配這個均不均勻的情形我們來做個應驗突破的方法好不好這要注意的那接下來本席要請教的就是因為有在提到地方的創生我們有一個戰略政策也有加速這個地方創生來的努力但是我們看到在我們地方來講134個鄉鎮\n還有30個鄉鎮沒有提案在這提案當中我們看到就像我們趙薇所說的南部的也要加強了像中部地區還有7個南部地區有19個東部有4個總共30個地區這鄉鎮還沒有提案的你們要想看看如何去輔導讓地方有特色有創造力的創生活的產業能夠去扶植他們尤其是要輔導跟協助\n是的,我們現在會再強化這一塊我們在最新的計畫裡面就是會強化我們在福島的力量你有沒有了解他們為什麼沒有提案?提案上有什麼困難呢?你有去了解嗎?我們目前來講我們會進一步的去理解但是就我們之前的了解是\n這個大家對於怎麼去提一個案子呢?我們後來經過輔導之後有改善那我們現在很多地方我們開始進入鄉公所、區公所的提案這很多方面有物價或者是房價、電價的問題這也是最核心的問題我們碰到一些單獨的企業就他的提案力道就會稍微弱一點所以我們現在很多地方是透過鄉鎮像獅子鄉等等這種鄉鎮來做帶動\n那效果就有改善對在這些有提案的在113年7月底有提案的有1192件但是有348件他們幾乎是都不提了也都測案了這個是什麼情況那個測案已經有提過測案348件佔了四分之一是我們有了解因為他是微型企業他原提以後在進行他的企業申請跟規劃的時候發現他的難度比較大之後他們進行測案\n委員會及所屬單位預算部分關於行政院地區永續發展\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.229 --> 00:20.386\n禮遇您召委謝謝主席請留主委請國會留主委主委留委員早\n\n00:21.958 --> 00:28.648\n賴總統他在上任的時候有提出了這個五大信賴產業同時也宣布了要延長這個我們台灣的投資三大方案也宣示了要讓我們的半導體還有AI的產業作為主軸\n\n00:37.301 --> 00:41.963\n所以要讓不管是外商還是台商都能有意願的回來投資臺灣在這方面的話我們國發會也提出了國家發展的計劃尤其在這發展的計劃裡面總體經濟發展的目標未來這4年\n\n00:53.249 --> 00:55.830\n經濟成長率2.8-3.6%事業率平均3.2-3.5%核心消費物價指數上漲率平均2%以下尤其是117年會達到人均GDP超過4萬美元本期請問的就是你怎麼樣去設定這個目標是依據什麼\n\n01:21.949 --> 01:42.718\n我們是依據這個情勢的研判跟這個情勢的研判那以目前來講我們的經濟成長今年應該是3.96到4之間失業率目前是在3.47左右那核心的通膨一直在1.8以下所以你是知道以前的數據嗎就看以前的數據就對了整個社會的不全然還有經濟的發展經濟的發展好\n\n01:50.521 --> 01:55.322\n那你這因為你訂出的這些目標我剛才念了你訂的這些目標但是我們看到在110年到113年的時候你們的經濟成長率大概平均在這個3.3到3.7但是你看到111年到112年你們這個平均值就是數字都已經是沒有達標的情形是不是那你又依照這個那你又訂得更高\n\n02:16.368 --> 02:24.496\n那尤其是這個CPI這個部分的話你看到你的上漲率你要控制在這個1.0到1.5但是在這個111年他們都是一直下降提高那你都沒有控管好那你怎麼去定你的目標呢我們都思考過\n\n02:35.006 --> 02:43.630\n目標是為了追求卓越我們不可能去定一個很消極的目標來讓國家追尋太過於樂觀嗎你這個都是以110年到113年的數據給你做看\n\n02:51.314 --> 03:05.769\n在我們的經驗裡面其實我們這個東西就是要積極的努力去做了那找各種方法你的積極努力的話你有沒有想到說那整個消費市場的管控上能不能達到你的目標你要怎麼做\n\n03:07.140 --> 03:27.985\n這個就是我們其實我們現在定期都在看這裡面的數字的整合我們每個月都有做適度的調整那我們包括從物價的委員會裡面所以你要去因應啊物價一直飆漲你不能讓水一直漲啊我們有在因應所以現在的CPI不只核心CPI也降到了2以下了那核心CPI就一直在1.8以內\n\n03:28.965 --> 03:39.047\n所以這都是主委這都給你參考的但是你要努力的去因應怎麼樣去做對不對不能隨意讓這物價一直飆你看物價一直飆這CPI物價一直飆你還是要控管住嘛那尤其是這個人均那個GDP這個部分的話你要達到4萬那到今年的話是3萬3美元那你說能夠超越日本跟韓國最好是以以色列來併價期需那你的這個部分的話\n\n03:58.390 --> 04:15.399\n那就要發展像賴總統講的就是半導體跟這個AI的產業因為這個是高薪的嘛你才有辦法把這個人均值提高起來那尤其是我們現在很多的製造業相關的產業他們就沒有辦法這麼高的薪水那你要怎麼去突破呢\n\n04:16.836 --> 04:25.120\n我們現在的做法就是我們要盡量開創高薪的產業讓高薪的我知道我已經告訴你了對不對那從業製造業各方面的話那怎麼辦你不能全部依賴是這個半導體跟這個AI產業啊\n\n04:34.298 --> 04:52.571\n經濟的成長他們是其他的像從業從事這個沒有相關的這半導體的產業的話他們是沒有辦法得到這經濟的紅利我們對於這個傳統產業我們希望他們轉型進入高質化的領域比如說像以螺絲扣件來講我們希望他進到了一定要轉型\n\n04:54.813 --> 04:57.214\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院主管、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展\n\n05:18.240 --> 05:18.600\n委員會提供的資料\n\n05:35.508 --> 05:51.467\n我們現在的做法是希望增加高薪就業機會之後會增加所得稅收然後我們透過這個所得稅收的增加去補助輔助的比較收入比較低的這個族群所以我們透過福利政策去彌補它\n\n05:52.788 --> 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創生來努力，但是我們看到在地方來講，134個鄉鎮裡面，還有30個鄉鎮沒有提案，就像召委所說的，我們看到南部的鄉鎮要加強，像中部地區有7個、南部地區有19個、東部有4個，總共有30個鄉鎮還沒有提案，你們要想想看如何去輔導地方有特色、有創造力的創生產業，並扶植他們，尤其是要輔導跟協助。"],["劉主任委員鏡清：是的，我們現在會再強化這一塊，我們在最新的計畫裡面會強化輔導的力量，希望……"],["呂委員玉玲：你有沒有瞭解他們為什麼沒有提案、提案上有什麼困難呢？你有去瞭解嗎？"],["劉主任委員鏡清：我們目前會進一步去理解，但是就我們之前的瞭解，大家對於怎麼去提一個案子……我們後來經過輔導之後有改善，現在很多地方我們開始進入鄉公所、區公所的提案，那個提案算是效果比較好的。"],["呂委員玉玲：這有很多方面，有物價或者是房價、電價的問題，這也是最核心的問題。"],["劉主任委員鏡清：對，我們碰到一些單獨的企業，它的提案力道就會稍微弱一點，所以我們現在很多地方是透過鄉鎮，像獅子鄉等等這種鄉鎮來帶動，效果就有改善。"],["呂委員玉玲：主委，截至113年7月底，有提案的有1,192件，但是有348件幾乎都不提了，也都撤案了，這個是什麼情況呢？"],["劉主任委員鏡清：那個撤案都是……"],["呂委員玉玲：已經有提了，348件撤案，占了四分之一耶！"],["劉主任委員鏡清：我們有瞭解，它是微型企業，原提以後在進行企業申請跟規劃的時候，發現難度比較大之後，他們逕行撤案。"],["呂委員玉玲：所以它整個計畫不夠成熟，自己就退件了？"],["劉主任委員鏡清：所以我們將來也會去實際在……"],["呂委員玉玲：所以你要輔導。"],["劉主任委員鏡清：我們會試著去輔導改善。"],["呂委員玉玲：你們會有補助、協助他們，對不對？"],["劉主任委員鏡清：對。"],["呂委員玉玲：我們希望地方創生能夠永續傳承來發展，這樣可以創造多元的經濟模式，好不好？"],["劉主任委員鏡清：是的，謝謝委員。"],["呂委員玉玲：請主委努力一點，謝謝。"],["劉主任委員鏡清：是，謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝呂玉玲委員，主委請回座。","下一位請張嘉郡委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":214,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-19-16","speakers":["邱志偉","林岱樺","邱議瑩","張啓楷","鄭正鈐","陳亭妃","鄭天財Sra 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