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00:01:15,375\n原詞曲的創作如果要改為台語正字的話就需要回頭向原作詞者再次確認那可能會使原作詞者能誤解為糾正其原始用詞不當亦引起不必要的誤會及爭議所以在實際上操作上較難向授權方提出因原歌詞有誤而須更正為台語正字用字之要求\n\n4\n00:01:16,115 --> 00:01:33,912\n我想確認一件事情齁我一直要求的都不是去更改原歌詞我一直要求的都是在下面多加一行我不曉得是文化部搞不清楚呢還是我講得不夠清楚呢這樣子的回函就代表根本沒有去溝通啊這樣子的到底有沒有去溝通還是不理解我在講什麼\n\n5\n00:01:41,348 --> 00:01:50,342\n其實我們都有跟那個轉播單位溝通過那他的確涉及到一些現場的技術問題我想請局長跟你回答更仔細好嗎好謝謝\n\n6\n00:01:54,838 --> 00:02:13,407\n議員報告有關兩行這個文字呈現的問題那因為我們有跟轉播單位溝通那他們是說從電視專業的考量兩行字幕可能會影響電視畫面的整體視覺我想現在有很多的公式台語的動畫都可以用兩行字幕來處理為什麼這個不行但公式台語台他怎麼做到的都是文化部的啊可不可以去聯絡一下搞清楚別人怎麼做的\n\n7\n00:02:25,870 --> 00:02:35,932\n為什麼不行?是想擺爛不想處理還是怎麼樣?那可不可以改善?可不可以去了解?公司董事長也在後面嘛,一定非常了解我們是有這樣子的做法的啊。可不可以去了解?我想這件事情我看起來是你們收到回函就決定不去溝通的。\n\n8\n00:02:48,604 --> 00:03:01,174\n閱讀你們的回文上面就是說因為這樣子好像會有點造成別人的困擾所以就沒有去溝通我覺得這完全背離了你們當時對我的承諾下次不要再有同樣的錯誤部長可以嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:03,174 --> 00:03:29,426\n其實我們有去溝通,包括金馬獎這次要轉播我們有去跟他溝通。所以金馬獎這次會發生一樣的問題嗎?有,他會說如果有的話他就,他唱台語歌的時候,如果有台語歌他就會用字幕。台語正字嗎?所以都有在溝通?所以不會再發生一模一樣的?所以剛剛委員有點誤會,其實因為他是有一些技術問題,我們每一次轉播都去跟轉播單位跟他溝通,包括金馬獎,\n\n10\n00:03:30,586 --> 00:03:30,606\n閱讀委員會\n\n11\n00:04:14,224 --> 00:04:29,191\nadequation1我希望未來我們的任何的國家典禮畢竟文化部是台語的主責機關不要再犯同樣的錯誤了任何一個頒獎典禮部長可以承諾我嗎\n\n12\n00:04:32,113 --> 00:04:53,543\n經馬獎他本身在整個單位適不適合用國家語言發展法裏面施行細則裏面第9條就有講說我們捐助的財團我們資助的財團法人應該要提供語言多元服務第9條裏面就有講到這一條能不能適用在經馬獎我們正在演一工確認好那請你們釐清好請你們釐清好謝謝沒問題那再來就是說\n\n13\n00:04:58,973 --> 00:05:28,409\n我們現在有一個臺語家庭的計畫嘛我想要來了解一下臺語家庭的計畫因為從9月就說開始可以讓地方政府來申請了那我參加一些活動的時候也都有叫我掃QRcode可以去做這個登記這樣子但是我想要知道到底有多少人知道臺語家庭的這一個計畫這個宣傳到底在哪裡啊這可不可以請是次長來說明一下嗎我們已經在晚下進行請次長跟您報告\n\n14\n00:05:50,276 --> 00:05:54,357\n閱讀委員會會擴大辦理嗎?因為我想不是只有台語現在已經會講的台語家庭要來知道這件事情啦,應該是所有的人都應該要知道這個訊息,所以它應該要有一個大型的宣傳,所以你們相關的是有一些記者會大概是在什麼時候會舉辦呢?\n\n15\n00:06:34,739 --> 00:06:55,200\n第一現在推廣的團體一定要知道這件事情然後相關的網路的宣傳我想這都需要一起來配合才能夠讓這件事情真正的傳承下去好嗎謝謝那再來就是延續這個問題喔因為我們其實在台語家庭的時候有講說我們需要可以有一些基地嘛那我也非常感謝文化部其實有來規劃了四座生活美學館\n\n16\n00:06:56,121 --> 00:07:22,501\n但是我有發現這些長社展他並沒有台語的翻譯也就是說他並沒有提供長社展的台語導覽那我想他作為一個台語家庭的基地在這個硬體環境上卻沒有支持這要如何的來落實或者是說讓大家真的每個人來到這裡都可以感受到對這裡是一個台語基地呢這問題要怎麼解決啊\n\n17\n00:07:23,421 --> 00:07:46,478\n這一部分文化部的所屬管所其實目前這是委員現在手上的這是我們目前做到的可是我們知道有一些場館它的長色展台語文的部分還沒有處理好這我們會在114年的時候持續辦理然後應該在年終以後114年中會全部都完成好那這個進度我們持續來追蹤那在下一題就是說我想來爭取一下這個\n\n18\n00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:47,779\n閱讀委員會\n\n19\n00:08:03,684 --> 00:08:28,892\n在這幾年疫情之後其實PIXAR這個皮克斯公司有非常多的動畫師其實都是台灣人他們也都回到台灣了還有像Netflix之前跟日本買了非常多的動畫他們畫不完現在都是台灣在畫其實我們非常多的動畫人才可是呢我們現在雖然說今年我知道他們有開會就是在動畫電影局的時候還有石潘電影劇集的話現在我們是有\n\n20\n00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:58,309\n來討論說是可以有一個動畫的那個節目的部分有但是在長片的部分還是沒有所以我想要了解就是我們在影視局其實有跟這些團體開一個會他其實是說因為這個現在我們的長片輔導金委員其實是來自於各個電影產業的各個領域那我想要了解這裡面的委員到底有哪些是來自動畫的領域呢?\n\n21\n00:09:00,573 --> 00:09:23,213\n關於委員關心這個題目我跟您講說我們有最新的狀況就是我們乾脆把動畫、電影、長片拉出來自己成立一個那個輔導金所以現在確認會有嗎?因為知道上次開會的結論是沒有的算是有各種疑慮主要是我們的廠量不夠因為在台灣做動畫的公司跟人才\n\n22\n00:09:24,134 --> 00:09:50,672\n剛剛您講的完全對就是它要靠加工才能生存所以當時是疑慮這個後來我想其實我自己做過動畫我做過動畫我蠻希望台灣的動畫跟漫畫跟其他的那個文學作品跟電影它可以成為一個IP所以我們已經決定要把動畫電影長片獨立製作成為一個這一項脫離所有的其他長片這一點是我們最近這一兩三天最新的決定\n\n23\n00:09:51,872 --> 00:10:11,817\n謝謝部長的支持,因為我想動畫其實在日本我相信都知道有非常多不同的題材可以透過動畫來處理,那現在剛剛好台灣都有這些人才,那也希望就是說,因為其實在會議第三點裡面也有提到說要如何協助他們把整個產業鏈做起來,那相關詳細的計畫是不是也可以再多久的時候送到我們辦公室呢?\n\n24\n00:10:14,110 --> 00:10:23,632\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n\n25\n00:10:43,977 --> 00:11:10,483\n這個家族呢就把胡克敏這位大師的作品全部有一部分啦有一部分都已經捐贈到中國因為中國他們覺得中國的積極的協助他們要收藏他們的作品所以現在就有一部分都已經送到中國去了這樣子那我想了解我們在這一段上面在戰後的這一段一些重要的藝術家的作品還有支援我們上面我們可以再多做一點什麼事情呢\n\n26\n00:11:11,971 --> 00:11:40,341\n講到這一點是有點遺憾我們在歷史博物館其實我們裡面有非常多由中國來到台灣的一些藝術家非常有名的藝術家來到台灣之後他們也開始把他的作品本土化等等我覺得去中國化這個東西對我來講是個假議題所以我們特別對於這些作家會把作品捐給中國可能是他們個人的認同嘛因為我知道我們在電影界也有一些\n\n27\n00:11:58,907 --> 00:12:19,094\nbicy剛說的啦其實他只是覺得說大家好像都不是很在乎他們所以我想在這一段我們如何跟藝術家的後代或是跟藝術家本人做更多的溝通都是非常重要因為大家來到了台灣嘛台灣現在就是族群融合我們收集各個中華文化的重要藝術作品都是非常重要就像我之前的質詢上面我們如何把這些\n\n28\n00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:20,834\nbicyn提到說戰後戰後是我們台灣百分之八九十人共同的記憶然後\n\n29\n00:12:48,243 --> 00:12:48,263\n閱讀委員會議\n\n30\n00:13:18,032 --> 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code可以去做這個登記這樣子但是我想要知道到底有多少人知道臺語家庭的這一個計畫這個宣傳到底在哪裡啊這可不可以請是次長來說明一下嗎我們已經在晚下進行請次長跟您報告\n330674\t350196\t議員議員\n350276\t354357\t閱讀委員會會擴大辦理嗎?因為我想不是只有台語現在已經會講的台語家庭要來知道這件事情啦,應該是所有的人都應該要知道這個訊息,所以它應該要有一個大型的宣傳,所以你們相關的是有一些記者會大概是在什麼時候會舉辦呢?\n376442\t394599\t議員議員議員\n394739\t415200\t第一現在推廣的團體一定要知道這件事情然後相關的網路的宣傳我想這都需要一起來配合才能夠讓這件事情真正的傳承下去好嗎謝謝那再來就是延續這個問題喔因為我們其實在台語家庭的時候有講說我們需要可以有一些基地嘛那我也非常感謝文化部其實有來規劃了四座生活美學館\n416121\t442501\t但是我有發現這些長社展他並沒有台語的翻譯也就是說他並沒有提供長社展的台語導覽那我想他作為一個台語家庭的基地在這個硬體環境上卻沒有支持這要如何的來落實或者是說讓大家真的每個人來到這裡都可以感受到對這裡是一個台語基地呢這問題要怎麼解決啊\n443421\t466478\t這一部分文化部的所屬管所其實目前這是委員現在手上的這是我們目前做到的可是我們知道有一些場館它的長色展台語文的部分還沒有處理好這我們會在114年的時候持續辦理然後應該在年終以後114年中會全部都完成好那這個進度我們持續來追蹤那在下一題就是說我想來爭取一下這個\n467759\t467779\t閱讀委員會\n483684\t508892\t在這幾年疫情之後其實PIXAR這個皮克斯公司有非常多的動畫師其實都是台灣人他們也都回到台灣了還有像Netflix之前跟日本買了非常多的動畫他們畫不完現在都是台灣在畫其實我們非常多的動畫人才可是呢我們現在雖然說今年我知道他們有開會就是在動畫電影局的時候還有石潘電影劇集的話現在我們是有\n511033\t538309\t來討論說是可以有一個動畫的那個節目的部分有但是在長片的部分還是沒有所以我想要了解就是我們在影視局其實有跟這些團體開一個會他其實是說因為這個現在我們的長片輔導金委員其實是來自於各個電影產業的各個領域那我想要了解這裡面的委員到底有哪些是來自動畫的領域呢?\n540573\t563213\t關於委員關心這個題目我跟您講說我們有最新的狀況就是我們乾脆把動畫、電影、長片拉出來自己成立一個那個輔導金所以現在確認會有嗎?因為知道上次開會的結論是沒有的算是有各種疑慮主要是我們的廠量不夠因為在台灣做動畫的公司跟人才\n564134\t590672\t剛剛您講的完全對就是它要靠加工才能生存所以當時是疑慮這個後來我想其實我自己做過動畫我做過動畫我蠻希望台灣的動畫跟漫畫跟其他的那個文學作品跟電影它可以成為一個IP所以我們已經決定要把動畫電影長片獨立製作成為一個這一項脫離所有的其他長片這一點是我們最近這一兩三天最新的決定\n591872\t611817\t謝謝部長的支持,因為我想動畫其實在日本我相信都知道有非常多不同的題材可以透過動畫來處理,那現在剛剛好台灣都有這些人才,那也希望就是說,因為其實在會議第三點裡面也有提到說要如何協助他們把整個產業鏈做起來,那相關詳細的計畫是不是也可以再多久的時候送到我們辦公室呢?\n614110\t623632\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n643977\t670483\t這個家族呢就把胡克敏這位大師的作品全部有一部分啦有一部分都已經捐贈到中國因為中國他們覺得中國的積極的協助他們要收藏他們的作品所以現在就有一部分都已經送到中國去了這樣子那我想了解我們在這一段上面在戰後的這一段一些重要的藝術家的作品還有支援我們上面我們可以再多做一點什麼事情呢\n671971\t700341\t講到這一點是有點遺憾我們在歷史博物館其實我們裡面有非常多由中國來到台灣的一些藝術家非常有名的藝術家來到台灣之後他們也開始把他的作品本土化等等我覺得去中國化這個東西對我來講是個假議題所以我們特別對於這些作家會把作品捐給中國可能是他們個人的認同嘛因為我知道我們在電影界也有一些\n701101\t718387\t\n718907\t739094\tbicy 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code可以去做這個登記這樣子但是我想要知道到底有多少人知道臺語家庭的這一個計畫這個宣傳到底在哪裡啊這可不可以請是次長來說明一下嗎我們已經在晚下進行請次長跟您報告\n議員議員\n閱讀委員會會擴大辦理嗎?因為我想不是只有台語現在已經會講的台語家庭要來知道這件事情啦,應該是所有的人都應該要知道這個訊息,所以它應該要有一個大型的宣傳,所以你們相關的是有一些記者會大概是在什麼時候會舉辦呢?\n議員議員議員\n第一現在推廣的團體一定要知道這件事情然後相關的網路的宣傳我想這都需要一起來配合才能夠讓這件事情真正的傳承下去好嗎謝謝那再來就是延續這個問題喔因為我們其實在台語家庭的時候有講說我們需要可以有一些基地嘛那我也非常感謝文化部其實有來規劃了四座生活美學館\n但是我有發現這些長社展他並沒有台語的翻譯也就是說他並沒有提供長社展的台語導覽那我想他作為一個台語家庭的基地在這個硬體環境上卻沒有支持這要如何的來落實或者是說讓大家真的每個人來到這裡都可以感受到對這裡是一個台語基地呢這問題要怎麼解決啊\n這一部分文化部的所屬管所其實目前這是委員現在手上的這是我們目前做到的可是我們知道有一些場館它的長色展台語文的部分還沒有處理好這我們會在114年的時候持續辦理然後應該在年終以後114年中會全部都完成好那這個進度我們持續來追蹤那在下一題就是說我想來爭取一下這個\n閱讀委員會\n在這幾年疫情之後其實PIXAR這個皮克斯公司有非常多的動畫師其實都是台灣人他們也都回到台灣了還有像Netflix之前跟日本買了非常多的動畫他們畫不完現在都是台灣在畫其實我們非常多的動畫人才可是呢我們現在雖然說今年我知道他們有開會就是在動畫電影局的時候還有石潘電影劇集的話現在我們是有\n來討論說是可以有一個動畫的那個節目的部分有但是在長片的部分還是沒有所以我想要了解就是我們在影視局其實有跟這些團體開一個會他其實是說因為這個現在我們的長片輔導金委員其實是來自於各個電影產業的各個領域那我想要了解這裡面的委員到底有哪些是來自動畫的領域呢?\n關於委員關心這個題目我跟您講說我們有最新的狀況就是我們乾脆把動畫、電影、長片拉出來自己成立一個那個輔導金所以現在確認會有嗎?因為知道上次開會的結論是沒有的算是有各種疑慮主要是我們的廠量不夠因為在台灣做動畫的公司跟人才\n剛剛您講的完全對就是它要靠加工才能生存所以當時是疑慮這個後來我想其實我自己做過動畫我做過動畫我蠻希望台灣的動畫跟漫畫跟其他的那個文學作品跟電影它可以成為一個IP所以我們已經決定要把動畫電影長片獨立製作成為一個這一項脫離所有的其他長片這一點是我們最近這一兩三天最新的決定\n謝謝部長的支持,因為我想動畫其實在日本我相信都知道有非常多不同的題材可以透過動畫來處理,那現在剛剛好台灣都有這些人才,那也希望就是說,因為其實在會議第三點裡面也有提到說要如何協助他們把整個產業鏈做起來,那相關詳細的計畫是不是也可以再多久的時候送到我們辦公室呢?\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化基金附屬單位預算案。\n這個家族呢就把胡克敏這位大師的作品全部有一部分啦有一部分都已經捐贈到中國因為中國他們覺得中國的積極的協助他們要收藏他們的作品所以現在就有一部分都已經送到中國去了這樣子那我想了解我們在這一段上面在戰後的這一段一些重要的藝術家的作品還有支援我們上面我們可以再多做一點什麼事情呢\n講到這一點是有點遺憾我們在歷史博物館其實我們裡面有非常多由中國來到台灣的一些藝術家非常有名的藝術家來到台灣之後他們也開始把他的作品本土化等等我覺得去中國化這個東西對我來講是個假議題所以我們特別對於這些作家會把作品捐給中國可能是他們個人的認同嘛因為我知道我們在電影界也有一些\n\nbicy 剛說的啦其實他只是覺得說大家好像都不是很在乎他們所以我想在這一段我們如何跟藝術家的後代或是跟藝術家本人做更多的溝通都是非常重要因為大家來到了台灣嘛台灣現在就是族群融合我們收集各個中華文化的重要藝術作品都是非常重要就像我之前的質詢上面我們如何把這些\nbicyn 提到說戰後戰後是我們台灣百分之八九十人共同的記憶然後\n閱讀委員會議\n黃國昌議員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.346 --> 00:14.546\n主席\n\n00:23.666 --> 00:51.158\n部長好那首先我要來關心我一直非常關心的這個三金臺文字幕文化部的這個文化金曲獎金鐘獎的一個問題就是說在上次呢我們其實已經有要求嘛那文化部也跟我回函了啦那回函上面是講說授權內容僅限於原詞曲不包含改編詞曲依契約簽訂內容不建議更改原歌詞如果基於尊重\n\n00:51.658 --> 01:15.375\n原詞曲的創作如果要改為台語正字的話就需要回頭向原作詞者再次確認那可能會使原作詞者能誤解為糾正其原始用詞不當亦引起不必要的誤會及爭議所以在實際上操作上較難向授權方提出因原歌詞有誤而須更正為台語正字用字之要求\n\n01:16.115 --> 01:33.912\n我想確認一件事情齁我一直要求的都不是去更改原歌詞我一直要求的都是在下面多加一行我不曉得是文化部搞不清楚呢還是我講得不夠清楚呢這樣子的回函就代表根本沒有去溝通啊這樣子的到底有沒有去溝通還是不理解我在講什麼\n\n01:41.348 --> 01:50.342\n其實我們都有跟那個轉播單位溝通過那他的確涉及到一些現場的技術問題我想請局長跟你回答更仔細好嗎好謝謝\n\n01:54.838 --> 02:13.407\n議員報告有關兩行這個文字呈現的問題那因為我們有跟轉播單位溝通那他們是說從電視專業的考量兩行字幕可能會影響電視畫面的整體視覺我想現在有很多的公式台語的動畫都可以用兩行字幕來處理為什麼這個不行但公式台語台他怎麼做到的都是文化部的啊可不可以去聯絡一下搞清楚別人怎麼做的\n\n02:25.870 --> 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