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00:01:36,310\n事件呈現出來然後去把它解決它應該是一個正面的方向重要的是我們有沒有大家一起努力來落實我們食安五環來保障我們人民食安的健康\n\n6\n00:01:37,853 --> 00:02:00,103\n那我跟部長說當然你可以講說這個查驗如果說查驗的我支持查驗的那個量要大那這樣子那個涵蓋面就比較夠可是我今天也是要提醒一下說目前來看真的我覺得我們的食品安全的那個問題跟威脅其實越來越大這點希望衛福部能夠多加注意比方說國際食品安全的警訊食藥署\n\n7\n00:02:01,563 --> 00:02:07,406\n紅黃綠燈資訊的發布量從109年的414則．到112年是大增為1849則．今年截止到7月到了1353則．推估全年會到2300則．甚至首次會出現紅燈的警訊．\n\n8\n00:02:22,974 --> 00:02:37,441\n我在想說現在這個問題齁坦白講你如果從414到所謂的2300那已經是將近5倍多了欸那這麼嚴重的一個狀況不知道現在目前那個衛福部的因應的狀況是怎麼樣\n\n9\n00:02:45,030 --> 00:03:03,364\n報告委員第一個是先回覆委員剛剛在問部長的就是說為什麼我們檢查的那個比例持續升高那跟委員報告的是我們現在第一個就是我們透過AI的系統我們增加那個抽查率抽查的高危險性的抽查率所以\n\n10\n00:03:04,044 --> 00:03:22,495\n後來抽中的率比例就會比較高第二個件事是因為現在有實案我們有很多都是逐批查驗那逐批查驗以後後來就會檢查的比較高這是第一就是要回復委員為什麼最近的抽查的比例有涵那個實案問題的越來越高第二個就是剛剛委員在問這個\n\n11\n00:03:43,720 --> 00:04:05,880\n那我就提醒現在其實不只台灣內部啦就國際環境上食品安全問題其實也在變得比較我覺得環境面變得比較更嚴峻啦你就發現那個食品安全問題其實但我也跟你講我覺得跟我們的環境變化包括現在科技發展還是有點關係所以食品安全的那個問題也變得更加的複雜所以希望我們的衛福再努力一下\n\n12\n00:04:06,420 --> 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