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00:00:04,417\n附屬單位預算\n\n2\n00:00:13,871 --> 00:00:34,850\n部長,中華隊好不容易拿冠軍了,這件事全國都很開心,只是比較尷尬就是說他們回來的時候,這個彩萌免稅商店喜事亂蹭,主兵不分,甚至我記得最早的話好像第一時間這個PTT上面就直接講說叫做黃金之亂\n\n3\n00:00:35,791 --> 00:00:36,331\nminster.\n\n4\n00:01:05,731 --> 00:01:07,312\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n5\n00:01:26,804 --> 00:01:51,098\n那管制區裡面他未經同意就來做拍照而且他未經同意就拉了布條來做宣傳這是非常不妥的所以陶器公司他們也應該有對彩蒙做出檢討也要求他們未來不可以再犯當然委員剛剛所提醒的是最重要的就是未來不能再發生類似的事情這是第一件要處理的事情我們昨天看到的是管制區裡面混亂\n\n6\n00:01:51,778 --> 00:02:19,508\n但管制區外面看起來的狀況是還可以因為當時也是配合這個體育署體育署他們的這個路線的規劃淘氣公司是完全配合他們的規劃所以在整個場外的部分是沒有問題所以第一我們在場內管制區的部分不應該發生這樣的事情未來怎麼防範這個部分要做檢討第二就是針對彩蒙公司有沒有要做裁罰我也要求淘氣公司立刻做檢討如果有需要裁罰我們就來裁罰\n\n7\n00:02:20,968 --> 00:02:28,963\n要讓這些商業的公司知道說不該做的事而且未經淘機公司允許的狀況底下做這些事是必須受到懲罰的。\n\n8\n00:02:30,691 --> 00:02:50,200\n好部長因為這件事情會讓全國的人民覺得很不舒服因為這很明顯公器私用公私不分所以這件事情我希望說桃園機場這邊能夠做出個明快的處理好再來其實我再來要講的是有關這個2030我們全台灣的巴士都要電動化\n\n9\n00:02:51,280 --> 00:03:18,452\n那其實這件事情我也要特別對於我們交通部給予高度的肯定因為上禮拜部長來有已經核定說基隆所有的巴士未來所有電動巴士交通部都會補助一半那不過我這邊也提到一些陳情就是說我們目前電動巴士能夠選的這個廠商好像數量很少好像只有兩家還是一家目前是四家那未來應該會有五家\n\n10\n00:03:18,752 --> 00:03:44,711\n他們就很擔心說為了要符合2030能夠準時讓我們全台灣的巴士都電動化可能來不及因為我們現在的進度已經是落後的甚至有人提議說可不可以再開放就多一兩家讓這個產量能夠往上提所以我們申請時間能夠到位因此我們2030的時候我們可以達到這個全台灣電動巴士能夠全部都達標的目標呢?\n\n11\n00:03:45,667 --> 00:04:07,515\n報告委員這個對交通部來講是一個很重要的政策目標在2030年要達到所有的電動巴士的這個普及化那這個部分其實目前是有四家那或許在產量上面讓很多的縣市或者很多的公司認為只有兩家的產出的速度比較跟得上那未來會有五家所以這個部分我們也會跟經濟部來合作\n\n12\n00:04:08,315 --> 00:04:26,360\n只是說針對這個製造商的部分我們希望他的產量要足夠要充足要讓各縣市在替換電動巴士的過程當中不要說我有預算我想做但我買不到這件事不可以讓它發生因為只剩下5年整所以這時間其實蠻趕的我們現在普及率好像百分之20、20、30這個請\n\n13\n00:04:29,221 --> 00:04:49,553\n目前這個今年核電兩線熱量那普及率已經達到這個百分之25以上那另外一個部分我趁這個機會跟委員報告一下就是說目前這個做完成實像國產化還有這個走電話管道大概就是有這個四家那目前還有另外一家在申請這個完成國產化的一個審查\n\n14\n00:04:52,134 --> 00:05:08,426\n另外一個部分就是說這四家也目前都在這個擴廠那只要是公路局核定的然後業者下單採購的那個工廠生產的這個進度都在交通部在做一個控管\n\n15\n00:05:08,666 --> 00:05:26,656\n因為我現在知道說有關電動巴士其實不是只有地方政府還有一些客運業者、客運公司那他們如果合定的時候假設是合法合法、合理而且是符合規格的時候也要請說我們交通部尤其是公路局這邊能夠盡快說不要就是說\n\n16\n00:05:27,316 --> 00:05:47,175\n就是說讓他們能夠順利的趕快能夠申請然後趕快過關因為他們也很希望說能夠把這些巴士能夠趕快實施使用這樣對全民不管是對於我們的淨林排檯的目標也好還是對我們全民的方便也好那另外一方面也就是因為我是基隆的委員那我有去拜訪過不少業者\n\n17\n00:05:47,715 --> 00:06:07,904\n那有些業者跟我們講他們很願意全力配合這個電動巴士的專案甚至有一個業者直接跟我提到說他們現在已經有提到說要提出有33台的電動巴士針對我們基隆最忙的2088路線也是我們基隆的黃金路線直接從基隆的八斗子直接到台北直接到台北火車站\n\n18\n00:06:08,544 --> 00:06:24,673\n那他們這條路線他們未來會投入33台的電動巴士那如果有未來有機會的話那像說我們公路局是不是能夠讓這個電動巴士提早上路讓他們能夠順利這是我相信交通部預算的地方我以這個部分我們全力來協助好那另外一點就是有關路權\n\n19\n00:06:25,253 --> 00:06:40,445\n因為現在我剛剛提過2088是我們基隆市的黃金路線可是每天早上從八斗子發車經過基隆市到文化中心然後再從一高最塞的從大葉隧道開始一路到市府轉運站\n\n20\n00:06:43,908 --> 00:07:01,930\n可是尷尬的點就是在於說其實明明在從八斗子到這個62號架也就是到三分之一路程的時候很多的班次其實已經載滿人了但是依照目前的路權他們必須某個程度上來講是個冗長的過程他們必須重新從八斗子\n\n21\n00:07:02,831 --> 00:07:27,435\n經過62號A62號甲然後再到這個基隆女中然後再到基隆市文化中心然後最後再上一高變成說在大葉隧道開始一路塞車跟這個常態性塞車跟我們民眾要搭乘去臺北市府轉運站這其實造成很多的不便所以在這邊也請教說我們部長跟公路總局甚至高工局請教說有沒有可能說假設這邊的車子62這個2088\n\n22\n00:07:31,136 --> 00:07:58,587\n只要如果說在這個62號甲之前已經滿車了是不是可以不用多跑一段而是直接從62號甲直接接62號直接上一高這樣一方面可以縮短我們這些乘客等待的時間另外一方面也可以實質上的可以消化一些交通用色部長跟局長你們認為呢?報告委員您說的這個案子我覺得這件事是很值得討論因為\n\n23\n00:08:00,227 --> 00:08:24,934\n對於跑國道客運的這種路線來說他們是滿座基本上就不能再載人但如果還要再繞原本的路線基本上他也沒有辦法再讓客人上車但是很浪費時間所以委員提的這個建議我們在下一週應該會現場去辦會刊去了解之後我們來協助業者我們先做三個月的試辦先做三個月的試辦那如果試辦的狀況不錯那我們之後再延續\n\n24\n00:08:26,494 --> 00:08:40,892\n那就是那就麻煩部裡面幫忙幫我基隆人再多一點聲音我這次還是要再次再給我們交通部高度的肯定也代表基隆市市民跟你們說聲謝謝基隆很需要交通的幫忙那我看到陳部長所帶領的團隊很努力幫基隆解決一些問題謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3530\t4417\t附屬單位預算\n13871\t34850\t部長,中華隊好不容易拿冠軍了,這件事全國都很開心,只是比較尷尬就是說他們回來的時候,這個彩萌免稅商店喜事亂蹭,主兵不分,甚至我記得最早的話好像第一時間這個PTT上面就直接講說叫做黃金之亂\n35791\t36331\tminster.\n65731\t67312\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n86804\t111098\t那管制區裡面他未經同意就來做拍照而且他未經同意就拉了布條來做宣傳這是非常不妥的所以陶器公司他們也應該有對彩蒙做出檢討也要求他們未來不可以再犯當然委員剛剛所提醒的是最重要的就是未來不能再發生類似的事情這是第一件要處理的事情我們昨天看到的是管制區裡面混亂\n111778\t139508\t但管制區外面看起來的狀況是還可以因為當時也是配合這個體育署體育署他們的這個路線的規劃淘氣公司是完全配合他們的規劃所以在整個場外的部分是沒有問題所以第一我們在場內管制區的部分不應該發生這樣的事情未來怎麼防範這個部分要做檢討第二就是針對彩蒙公司有沒有要做裁罰我也要求淘氣公司立刻做檢討如果有需要裁罰我們就來裁罰\n140968\t148963\t要讓這些商業的公司知道說不該做的事而且未經淘機公司允許的狀況底下做這些事是必須受到懲罰的。\n150691\t170200\t好部長因為這件事情會讓全國的人民覺得很不舒服因為這很明顯公器私用公私不分所以這件事情我希望說桃園機場這邊能夠做出個明快的處理好再來其實我再來要講的是有關這個2030我們全台灣的巴士都要電動化\n171280\t198452\t那其實這件事情我也要特別對於我們交通部給予高度的肯定因為上禮拜部長來有已經核定說基隆所有的巴士未來所有電動巴士交通部都會補助一半那不過我這邊也提到一些陳情就是說我們目前電動巴士能夠選的這個廠商好像數量很少好像只有兩家還是一家目前是四家那未來應該會有五家\n198752\t224711\t他們就很擔心說為了要符合2030能夠準時讓我們全台灣的巴士都電動化可能來不及因為我們現在的進度已經是落後的甚至有人提議說可不可以再開放就多一兩家讓這個產量能夠往上提所以我們申請時間能夠到位因此我們2030的時候我們可以達到這個全台灣電動巴士能夠全部都達標的目標呢?\n225667\t247515\t報告委員這個對交通部來講是一個很重要的政策目標在2030年要達到所有的電動巴士的這個普及化那這個部分其實目前是有四家那或許在產量上面讓很多的縣市或者很多的公司認為只有兩家的產出的速度比較跟得上那未來會有五家所以這個部分我們也會跟經濟部來合作\n248315\t266360\t只是說針對這個製造商的部分我們希望他的產量要足夠要充足要讓各縣市在替換電動巴士的過程當中不要說我有預算我想做但我買不到這件事不可以讓它發生因為只剩下5年整所以這時間其實蠻趕的我們現在普及率好像百分之20、20、30這個請\n269221\t289553\t目前這個今年核電兩線熱量那普及率已經達到這個百分之25以上那另外一個部分我趁這個機會跟委員報告一下就是說目前這個做完成實像國產化還有這個走電話管道大概就是有這個四家那目前還有另外一家在申請這個完成國產化的一個審查\n292134\t308426\t另外一個部分就是說這四家也目前都在這個擴廠那只要是公路局核定的然後業者下單採購的那個工廠生產的這個進度都在交通部在做一個控管\n308666\t326656\t因為我現在知道說有關電動巴士其實不是只有地方政府還有一些客運業者、客運公司那他們如果合定的時候假設是合法合法、合理而且是符合規格的時候也要請說我們交通部尤其是公路局這邊能夠盡快說不要就是說\n327316\t347175\t就是說讓他們能夠順利的趕快能夠申請然後趕快過關因為他們也很希望說能夠把這些巴士能夠趕快實施使用這樣對全民不管是對於我們的淨林排檯的目標也好還是對我們全民的方便也好那另外一方面也就是因為我是基隆的委員那我有去拜訪過不少業者\n347715\t367904\t那有些業者跟我們講他們很願意全力配合這個電動巴士的專案甚至有一個業者直接跟我提到說他們現在已經有提到說要提出有33台的電動巴士針對我們基隆最忙的2088路線也是我們基隆的黃金路線直接從基隆的八斗子直接到台北直接到台北火車站\n368544\t384673\t那他們這條路線他們未來會投入33台的電動巴士那如果有未來有機會的話那像說我們公路局是不是能夠讓這個電動巴士提早上路讓他們能夠順利這是我相信交通部預算的地方我以這個部分我們全力來協助好那另外一點就是有關路權\n385253\t400445\t因為現在我剛剛提過2088是我們基隆市的黃金路線可是每天早上從八斗子發車經過基隆市到文化中心然後再從一高最塞的從大葉隧道開始一路到市府轉運站\n403908\t421930\t可是尷尬的點就是在於說其實明明在從八斗子到這個62號架也就是到三分之一路程的時候很多的班次其實已經載滿人了但是依照目前的路權他們必須某個程度上來講是個冗長的過程他們必須重新從八斗子\n422831\t447435\t經過62號A62號甲然後再到這個基隆女中然後再到基隆市文化中心然後最後再上一高變成說在大葉隧道開始一路塞車跟這個常態性塞車跟我們民眾要搭乘去臺北市府轉運站這其實造成很多的不便所以在這邊也請教說我們部長跟公路總局甚至高工局請教說有沒有可能說假設這邊的車子62這個2088\n451136\t478587\t只要如果說在這個62號甲之前已經滿車了是不是可以不用多跑一段而是直接從62號甲直接接62號直接上一高這樣一方面可以縮短我們這些乘客等待的時間另外一方面也可以實質上的可以消化一些交通用色部長跟局長你們認為呢?報告委員您說的這個案子我覺得這件事是很值得討論因為\n480227\t504934\t對於跑國道客運的這種路線來說他們是滿座基本上就不能再載人但如果還要再繞原本的路線基本上他也沒有辦法再讓客人上車但是很浪費時間所以委員提的這個建議我們在下一週應該會現場去辦會刊去了解之後我們來協助業者我們先做三個月的試辦先做三個月的試辦那如果試辦的狀況不錯那我們之後再延續\n506494\t520892\t那就是那就麻煩部裡面幫忙幫我基隆人再多一點聲音我這次還是要再次再給我們交通部高度的肯定也代表基隆市市民跟你們說聲謝謝基隆很需要交通的幫忙那我看到陳部長所帶領的團隊很努力幫基隆解決一些問題謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n","txt":"附屬單位預算\n部長,中華隊好不容易拿冠軍了,這件事全國都很開心,只是比較尷尬就是說他們回來的時候,這個彩萌免稅商店喜事亂蹭,主兵不分,甚至我記得最早的話好像第一時間這個PTT上面就直接講說叫做黃金之亂\nminster.\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n那管制區裡面他未經同意就來做拍照而且他未經同意就拉了布條來做宣傳這是非常不妥的所以陶器公司他們也應該有對彩蒙做出檢討也要求他們未來不可以再犯當然委員剛剛所提醒的是最重要的就是未來不能再發生類似的事情這是第一件要處理的事情我們昨天看到的是管制區裡面混亂\n但管制區外面看起來的狀況是還可以因為當時也是配合這個體育署體育署他們的這個路線的規劃淘氣公司是完全配合他們的規劃所以在整個場外的部分是沒有問題所以第一我們在場內管制區的部分不應該發生這樣的事情未來怎麼防範這個部分要做檢討第二就是針對彩蒙公司有沒有要做裁罰我也要求淘氣公司立刻做檢討如果有需要裁罰我們就來裁罰\n要讓這些商業的公司知道說不該做的事而且未經淘機公司允許的狀況底下做這些事是必須受到懲罰的。\n好部長因為這件事情會讓全國的人民覺得很不舒服因為這很明顯公器私用公私不分所以這件事情我希望說桃園機場這邊能夠做出個明快的處理好再來其實我再來要講的是有關這個2030我們全台灣的巴士都要電動化\n那其實這件事情我也要特別對於我們交通部給予高度的肯定因為上禮拜部長來有已經核定說基隆所有的巴士未來所有電動巴士交通部都會補助一半那不過我這邊也提到一些陳情就是說我們目前電動巴士能夠選的這個廠商好像數量很少好像只有兩家還是一家目前是四家那未來應該會有五家\n他們就很擔心說為了要符合2030能夠準時讓我們全台灣的巴士都電動化可能來不及因為我們現在的進度已經是落後的甚至有人提議說可不可以再開放就多一兩家讓這個產量能夠往上提所以我們申請時間能夠到位因此我們2030的時候我們可以達到這個全台灣電動巴士能夠全部都達標的目標呢?\n報告委員這個對交通部來講是一個很重要的政策目標在2030年要達到所有的電動巴士的這個普及化那這個部分其實目前是有四家那或許在產量上面讓很多的縣市或者很多的公司認為只有兩家的產出的速度比較跟得上那未來會有五家所以這個部分我們也會跟經濟部來合作\n只是說針對這個製造商的部分我們希望他的產量要足夠要充足要讓各縣市在替換電動巴士的過程當中不要說我有預算我想做但我買不到這件事不可以讓它發生因為只剩下5年整所以這時間其實蠻趕的我們現在普及率好像百分之20、20、30這個請\n目前這個今年核電兩線熱量那普及率已經達到這個百分之25以上那另外一個部分我趁這個機會跟委員報告一下就是說目前這個做完成實像國產化還有這個走電話管道大概就是有這個四家那目前還有另外一家在申請這個完成國產化的一個審查\n另外一個部分就是說這四家也目前都在這個擴廠那只要是公路局核定的然後業者下單採購的那個工廠生產的這個進度都在交通部在做一個控管\n因為我現在知道說有關電動巴士其實不是只有地方政府還有一些客運業者、客運公司那他們如果合定的時候假設是合法合法、合理而且是符合規格的時候也要請說我們交通部尤其是公路局這邊能夠盡快說不要就是說\n就是說讓他們能夠順利的趕快能夠申請然後趕快過關因為他們也很希望說能夠把這些巴士能夠趕快實施使用這樣對全民不管是對於我們的淨林排檯的目標也好還是對我們全民的方便也好那另外一方面也就是因為我是基隆的委員那我有去拜訪過不少業者\n那有些業者跟我們講他們很願意全力配合這個電動巴士的專案甚至有一個業者直接跟我提到說他們現在已經有提到說要提出有33台的電動巴士針對我們基隆最忙的2088路線也是我們基隆的黃金路線直接從基隆的八斗子直接到台北直接到台北火車站\n那他們這條路線他們未來會投入33台的電動巴士那如果有未來有機會的話那像說我們公路局是不是能夠讓這個電動巴士提早上路讓他們能夠順利這是我相信交通部預算的地方我以這個部分我們全力來協助好那另外一點就是有關路權\n因為現在我剛剛提過2088是我們基隆市的黃金路線可是每天早上從八斗子發車經過基隆市到文化中心然後再從一高最塞的從大葉隧道開始一路到市府轉運站\n可是尷尬的點就是在於說其實明明在從八斗子到這個62號架也就是到三分之一路程的時候很多的班次其實已經載滿人了但是依照目前的路權他們必須某個程度上來講是個冗長的過程他們必須重新從八斗子\n經過62號A62號甲然後再到這個基隆女中然後再到基隆市文化中心然後最後再上一高變成說在大葉隧道開始一路塞車跟這個常態性塞車跟我們民眾要搭乘去臺北市府轉運站這其實造成很多的不便所以在這邊也請教說我們部長跟公路總局甚至高工局請教說有沒有可能說假設這邊的車子62這個2088\n只要如果說在這個62號甲之前已經滿車了是不是可以不用多跑一段而是直接從62號甲直接接62號直接上一高這樣一方面可以縮短我們這些乘客等待的時間另外一方面也可以實質上的可以消化一些交通用色部長跟局長你們認為呢?報告委員您說的這個案子我覺得這件事是很值得討論因為\n對於跑國道客運的這種路線來說他們是滿座基本上就不能再載人但如果還要再繞原本的路線基本上他也沒有辦法再讓客人上車但是很浪費時間所以委員提的這個建議我們在下一週應該會現場去辦會刊去了解之後我們來協助業者我們先做三個月的試辦先做三個月的試辦那如果試辦的狀況不錯那我們之後再延續\n那就是那就麻煩部裡面幫忙幫我基隆人再多一點聲音我這次還是要再次再給我們交通部高度的肯定也代表基隆市市民跟你們說聲謝謝基隆很需要交通的幫忙那我看到陳部長所帶領的團隊很努力幫基隆解決一些問題謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.530 --> 00:04.417\n附屬單位預算\n\n00:13.871 --> 00:34.850\n部長,中華隊好不容易拿冠軍了,這件事全國都很開心,只是比較尷尬就是說他們回來的時候,這個彩萌免稅商店喜事亂蹭,主兵不分,甚至我記得最早的話好像第一時間這個PTT上面就直接講說叫做黃金之亂\n\n00:35.791 --> 00:36.331\nminster.\n\n01:05.731 --> 01:07.312\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n01:26.804 --> 01:51.098\n那管制區裡面他未經同意就來做拍照而且他未經同意就拉了布條來做宣傳這是非常不妥的所以陶器公司他們也應該有對彩蒙做出檢討也要求他們未來不可以再犯當然委員剛剛所提醒的是最重要的就是未來不能再發生類似的事情這是第一件要處理的事情我們昨天看到的是管制區裡面混亂\n\n01:51.778 --> 02:19.508\n但管制區外面看起來的狀況是還可以因為當時也是配合這個體育署體育署他們的這個路線的規劃淘氣公司是完全配合他們的規劃所以在整個場外的部分是沒有問題所以第一我們在場內管制區的部分不應該發生這樣的事情未來怎麼防範這個部分要做檢討第二就是針對彩蒙公司有沒有要做裁罰我也要求淘氣公司立刻做檢討如果有需要裁罰我們就來裁罰\n\n02:20.968 --> 02:28.963\n要讓這些商業的公司知道說不該做的事而且未經淘機公司允許的狀況底下做這些事是必須受到懲罰的。\n\n02:30.691 --> 02:50.200\n好部長因為這件事情會讓全國的人民覺得很不舒服因為這很明顯公器私用公私不分所以這件事情我希望說桃園機場這邊能夠做出個明快的處理好再來其實我再來要講的是有關這個2030我們全台灣的巴士都要電動化\n\n02:51.280 --> 03:18.452\n那其實這件事情我也要特別對於我們交通部給予高度的肯定因為上禮拜部長來有已經核定說基隆所有的巴士未來所有電動巴士交通部都會補助一半那不過我這邊也提到一些陳情就是說我們目前電動巴士能夠選的這個廠商好像數量很少好像只有兩家還是一家目前是四家那未來應該會有五家\n\n03:18.752 --> 03:44.711\n他們就很擔心說為了要符合2030能夠準時讓我們全台灣的巴士都電動化可能來不及因為我們現在的進度已經是落後的甚至有人提議說可不可以再開放就多一兩家讓這個產量能夠往上提所以我們申請時間能夠到位因此我們2030的時候我們可以達到這個全台灣電動巴士能夠全部都達標的目標呢?\n\n03:45.667 --> 04:07.515\n報告委員這個對交通部來講是一個很重要的政策目標在2030年要達到所有的電動巴士的這個普及化那這個部分其實目前是有四家那或許在產量上面讓很多的縣市或者很多的公司認為只有兩家的產出的速度比較跟得上那未來會有五家所以這個部分我們也會跟經濟部來合作\n\n04:08.315 --> 04:26.360\n只是說針對這個製造商的部分我們希望他的產量要足夠要充足要讓各縣市在替換電動巴士的過程當中不要說我有預算我想做但我買不到這件事不可以讓它發生因為只剩下5年整所以這時間其實蠻趕的我們現在普及率好像百分之20、20、30這個請\n\n04:29.221 --> 04:49.553\n目前這個今年核電兩線熱量那普及率已經達到這個百分之25以上那另外一個部分我趁這個機會跟委員報告一下就是說目前這個做完成實像國產化還有這個走電話管道大概就是有這個四家那目前還有另外一家在申請這個完成國產化的一個審查\n\n04:52.134 --> 05:08.426\n另外一個部分就是說這四家也目前都在這個擴廠那只要是公路局核定的然後業者下單採購的那個工廠生產的這個進度都在交通部在做一個控管\n\n05:08.666 --> 05:26.656\n因為我現在知道說有關電動巴士其實不是只有地方政府還有一些客運業者、客運公司那他們如果合定的時候假設是合法合法、合理而且是符合規格的時候也要請說我們交通部尤其是公路局這邊能夠盡快說不要就是說\n\n05:27.316 --> 05:47.175\n就是說讓他們能夠順利的趕快能夠申請然後趕快過關因為他們也很希望說能夠把這些巴士能夠趕快實施使用這樣對全民不管是對於我們的淨林排檯的目標也好還是對我們全民的方便也好那另外一方面也就是因為我是基隆的委員那我有去拜訪過不少業者\n\n05:47.715 --> 06:07.904\n那有些業者跟我們講他們很願意全力配合這個電動巴士的專案甚至有一個業者直接跟我提到說他們現在已經有提到說要提出有33台的電動巴士針對我們基隆最忙的2088路線也是我們基隆的黃金路線直接從基隆的八斗子直接到台北直接到台北火車站\n\n06:08.544 --> 06:24.673\n那他們這條路線他們未來會投入33台的電動巴士那如果有未來有機會的話那像說我們公路局是不是能夠讓這個電動巴士提早上路讓他們能夠順利這是我相信交通部預算的地方我以這個部分我們全力來協助好那另外一點就是有關路權\n\n06:25.253 --> 06:40.445\n因為現在我剛剛提過2088是我們基隆市的黃金路線可是每天早上從八斗子發車經過基隆市到文化中心然後再從一高最塞的從大葉隧道開始一路到市府轉運站\n\n06:43.908 --> 07:01.930\n可是尷尬的點就是在於說其實明明在從八斗子到這個62號架也就是到三分之一路程的時候很多的班次其實已經載滿人了但是依照目前的路權他們必須某個程度上來講是個冗長的過程他們必須重新從八斗子\n\n07:02.831 --> 07:27.435\n經過62號A62號甲然後再到這個基隆女中然後再到基隆市文化中心然後最後再上一高變成說在大葉隧道開始一路塞車跟這個常態性塞車跟我們民眾要搭乘去臺北市府轉運站這其實造成很多的不便所以在這邊也請教說我們部長跟公路總局甚至高工局請教說有沒有可能說假設這邊的車子62這個2088\n\n07:31.136 --> 07:58.587\n只要如果說在這個62號甲之前已經滿車了是不是可以不用多跑一段而是直接從62號甲直接接62號直接上一高這樣一方面可以縮短我們這些乘客等待的時間另外一方面也可以實質上的可以消化一些交通用色部長跟局長你們認為呢?報告委員您說的這個案子我覺得這件事是很值得討論因為\n\n08:00.227 --> 08:24.934\n對於跑國道客運的這種路線來說他們是滿座基本上就不能再載人但如果還要再繞原本的路線基本上他也沒有辦法再讓客人上車但是很浪費時間所以委員提的這個建議我們在下一週應該會現場去辦會刊去了解之後我們來協助業者我們先做三個月的試辦先做三個月的試辦那如果試辦的狀況不錯那我們之後再延續\n\n08:26.494 --> 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