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00:02:16,194\n我們沒有辦法用商品標示法來處理它那家長知道嗎?你這些東西都是沒有經過安全檢驗的嗎?我們有英式檢驗商品的話它只要在臺灣落地它只要在這邊販售那我相信很多人也不太知道說原來你們列標準結果不是英式檢驗項目的話還真的沒有在檢驗英式檢驗商品是它不是用商品標示法它是用商品標示法但非英式檢驗商品的法定的話它是用消保法在處理\n\n7\n00:02:19,256 --> 00:02:41,592\n目前根據韓聯社報導南韓首爾市政府從4月初到5月底針對一些跨境電商平台銷售的產品都多次檢驗有93種產品當中大約40種商品都含有毒物質尤其是受檢的4款兒童中的有一款的甲醛還超標1.2倍\n\n8\n00:02:44,834 --> 00:02:48,458\n臺灣的家長有很高的機率有接觸到孩子們就會有機會去接觸到這有自癌風險的一些商品\n\n9\n00:03:02,330 --> 00:03:02,430\n請問經濟部怎麼規範?\n\n10\n00:03:25,326 --> 00:03:41,278\n報告委員,我想跨境電商這種新的商業模式確實造成你所指責的部分,那我們會來重視這樣的一個命題,因為目前我們經濟部所管轄的部分沒有辦法,\n\n11\n00:03:43,119 --> 00:04:11,352\n對這些廠商來做要求但是我們可以結合速發部結合衛福部我們討論一個如何來解決這個問題謝謝部長這樣的回覆我真的很高興能夠聽到這樣為什麼因為我覺得今天孩子已經生得很少的時候每個孩子要保護好但是我也要擔心的是說因為這是標準檢驗局那所列的應思檢項目商品那我們前面所提的不合格的商品\n\n12\n00:04:11,932 --> 00:04:37,504\n不在這名單當中那當然剛剛也部長也承諾我覺得很好可是我們也擔心的是目前標準局的方法是什麼採單項式的更新清單然後逐一增加檢驗商品所以過去是我在民間團體有提才有變成應試檢驗項目沒提就沒有的話所以我不知道說經濟部未來是不是有考慮整體性的原則完善的規劃來確保我們的母嬰兒童產品的檢驗不漏節\n\n13\n00:04:40,605 --> 00:05:04,599\n我不知道法律上允許不允許以我過去在民間的方法我建議允許我們推薦推薦品牌推薦品牌大概推薦給這些需要的這些媽媽我們告訴她哪一些東西是好的我們把這個良善的商品推薦給她們而不在這個推薦裡面就建議她們不要買\n\n14\n00:05:05,871 --> 00:05:32,497\n所以最後還是請求我們的經濟部要做到這個三點也就是如果針對有安全餘力的應該要馬上下架像我剛剛已經告訴你們這個網路平台上我們的這個有在進行那第二個就是產品要合格的話電商要去做規範那剛剛部長也承諾然後最後大家期待要有個檢舉的管道並且標示於電商平台我們現在有檢舉管道好謝謝部長謝謝謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n129\t21574\t林月琴委員諮詢有請我們的那個國智慧部長還有我們的標準局的陳怡伶局長陳陳局長\n26792\t54989\t委員好部長午安我過去事實上是在民間一直在監督兒童安全這一塊也一直致力於我們下降兒少的死亡率所以對嬰兒比較貼身或者是長期會使用的衣物大概也都會提出建議過去的確我們的標準局非常認真的是在我們提出來之後馬上去做回應不過我要提醒的是\n56645\t80906\t現在不是只有在實體店面現在很多時候我們國人的購物的習慣已經是在我們的電商平台上來做網購有嬰兒的家長為了照顧孩子大概比較傾向在這種線上所以想問經濟部當消費者在電商平台上購買嬰兒用品的時候尤其是跨境的電商\n81526\t86047\t那所購買的東西也都是經過檢驗合格的嗎?\n86047\t109651\t核准銷售的商品嗎?謝謝委員垂行 這部分我是不是請我們標準級來跟您報告?謝謝委員垂行 那那個我們以商品檢驗法來看的話我們管理的範圍是我們的義務人 就是我們的進口商跟那個製造商所以委員垂行的那個電商的部分 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