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00:00:37,628\n委員好部長好那延續著剛才先祥委員所提到的那這個意識形態的話不要去衝擊許多原本的價值那在剛才也有提到如果說王逸川他又在要求部長一定要把中華航空改名的話那你可以堅守中華航空不會因此而改名嗎\n\n3\n00:00:38,769 --> 00:01:00,291\n報告委員目前都沒有這樣的討論所以這個大概是一個猜測或者是好那假如這樣子那你也為中華航空講講話可以捍衛著中華航空吧我是覺得中華航空這個名字也蠻久了齁那大家也用的蠻習慣的那改名勢必要經過很長的一個討論更大規模的討論所以你也是支持中華航空嗎\n\n4\n00:01:01,011 --> 00:01:13,079\n欸我覺得目前沒有聽到需要改名字的這個說法。好那沒關係那我大致上我就直接跟部長確認就是原來像中華航空歷史悠久你也是覺得中華航空繼續存在是正確的嘛。\n\n5\n00:01:13,746 --> 00:01:15,407\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n6\n00:01:38,820 --> 00:01:40,501\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n7\n00:01:55,029 --> 00:02:18,825\n部長今天許多的都是在講這個階級我們的英雄回台啊那這個進來的過程中是非常的艱辛啊那我想是不是可以您就是簡短20秒30秒回應一下總結那麼多委員的一個質詢跟關心預計改善裁法的一個重點簡單30秒把幾個重點列一下好了\n\n8\n00:02:19,065 --> 00:02:45,871\n好報告委員檢討的部分其實在管制區外面是跟體育署配合那管制區外面看起來的這個狀況是還好包含拍照的地方也是職棒聯盟那邊有去建議啦那這個部分沒有問題那管制區內其實這一次該綠定都有綠定那有廠商沒有配合當時的綠定這就是應該要檢討的部分就是為什麼第一為什麼他沒有沒有這個配合當時的綠定第二該裁罰要裁罰\n\n9\n00:02:46,531 --> 00:02:59,770\n所以目前我們希望淘擠公司提出裁罰而我剛剛聽淘擠公司在講目前應該是以裁罰在最高金額100萬的這個裁罰來提出來好OK那我直接接著預算的部分來做討論那\n\n10\n00:03:04,234 --> 00:03:22,302\n我想說接著回應到電動車的部分。2025軍營排碳的趨勢所以我們2030預計要達到這個全面的電動大客車還有全面動動化的目標在過去的話公路局的資訊那2030預計11700台的市民公車截至2023年已經累積推動了1883輛的電動車領排\n\n11\n00:03:30,747 --> 00:03:33,353\n它這個數據是公路局的時候提供的\n\n12\n00:03:34,008 --> 00:03:54,674\n但是我們在看到他的目標要打到非常的辛苦那因為時間有限那我們在看後面的資料在2024年113年8月那這個現有公車及市區汽車客運電動大車佔比佔表的部分那他總車輛是14683那其中電動大客車到2024年8月底是1846\n\n13\n00:04:02,486 --> 00:04:16,813\n那先姑且不論他的這個進度打到2030年的目標是非常的有距離那想問一下兩個數據同樣都是官方數據為何在2023年1883量到2024年的8月反而降為降為這個1846量\n\n14\n00:04:30,514 --> 00:04:56,159\n這個我是不是請市長跟委員好,沒關係市長剛剛我們大概畫面上有兩個課題啦第一個部分就是說電動大哥車1846然後那個數據有一些變動我們如果記得的話像臺動施工車四方客運有這個推出然後有一些比較早期的那個車輛有進出的這些相關的部分所以那個有新車進來有舊車走出去這我清楚那所以說凸顯了\n\n15\n00:04:58,039 --> 00:05:16,102\n這一年的部分來講還是維持在1800左右但是公路局今年這個核定的增加這個2000多輛那2000多輛的話目前各地方政府到陸陸續續在核給這個客運業者這邊那客運業者也開始這個訂車然後等等的部分\n\n16\n00:05:16,843 --> 00:05:39,934\n沒關係,那個我但是在數據上在凸顯啦,藍頭線目前是0啊。那在520那時候,質詢的時候,市長跟局長知道就是要請這個交通部來不僅是協助我的選區藍頭,還包括在2030年的目標啊,我相信這個其實要加把勁啊。\n\n17\n00:05:41,354 --> 00:05:57,359\n我再次還是要肯定其實像交通部或公路局對於南投其實也幫忙很多的事情像是幸福巴士所以說本期在這裡提出這個部分希望未來的後面的五年六年那能夠緊鑼密鼓還能夠夾把勁\n\n18\n00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:16,697\n最後再補充一下就是在之前的交通部所開的會議也有提到這個除了車體的補助在國內國產的電芯電池它的部分其實確實跟國外來講還是需要去做協助\n\n19\n00:06:17,398 --> 00:06:44,737\n那如何能夠讓這個整體的電動巴士或是在我們臺灣的這個電動的產業能夠來提升那所以還是也希望交通部在那一次的會議之後有提到這個國產的電芯電池的補助那藉此來提高還相關這個電動巴士業者能夠意願能夠達到2030年這個淨零排碳的目標我在想在這裡也提出還希望你們能夠納入討論\n\n20\n00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:50,671\n報告委員這個部分沒有問題,只要是用國內的電信我們的補助也會再加碼。預計加碼多少?100還是150萬?\n\n21\n00:06:53,939 --> 00:07:18,551\n跟這個委員報告目前是這個增加100萬的一個補助。然後我在想如果說要評估一下如果現在的進步那麼緩慢的話是不是需要再加倍?跟委員報告一下那個電子那個國產化這一個電芯的部分的話目前啦大概國內有兩大廠在做這個努力可能量產的部分是在這個明年啦\n\n22\n00:07:19,051 --> 00:07:26,417\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n23\n00:07:47,452 --> 00:08:15,334\n就是在預算書跟資料上面得知目前來講車禍的死亡或是交通事故的死亡他目前是這七個月來講是5.7%跟目前要降低的10%還是有一個差距但是在預算書上面所呈現的這個宣傳費是增加了112.7%那在增列的那個宣傳預算他要怎麼宣傳要怎麼改善\n\n24\n00:08:16,628 --> 00:08:34,143\n報告委員這個部分的宣傳我們主要會放在比較高齡者的宣傳因為我們現在看到數據上面看到高齡者的這個事故跟死亡的這個數字其實還蠻高的而且逐年在增高那這個部分我們相當擔心我們希望說在整個交通觀念的宣導的部分我們可以再做加強\n\n25\n00:08:35,044 --> 00:08:48,258\n包括電視通路也好社群通路也好甚至我們在各個地方也都有辦活動希望能夠讓老人家能夠聽到一些比較安全的這些交通的概念那這個部分我們會持續來努力\n\n26\n00:08:48,720 --> 00:09:06,707\n那本期還是建議預計增加的這個部分如何能夠讓老人能夠清楚知道以及受到這個宣導那相關的規劃其實也要讓交通委員會的委員能夠充分知道那最後因為宣傳費的增加還都是非常的敏感\n\n27\n00:09:07,427 --> 00:09:20,246\n那所以是希望錢花在道果上那這個部分我們所增加的預算全部都是拿來讓交通安全的觀念的宣導的部分更加強好那就希望能夠有效降低是好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7984\t9190\t有請部長。請陳部長。謝謝召委。\n17022\t37628\t委員好部長好那延續著剛才先祥委員所提到的那這個意識形態的話不要去衝擊許多原本的價值那在剛才也有提到如果說王逸川他又在要求部長一定要把中華航空改名的話那你可以堅守中華航空不會因此而改名嗎\n38769\t60291\t報告委員目前都沒有這樣的討論所以這個大概是一個猜測或者是好那假如這樣子那你也為中華航空講講話可以捍衛著中華航空吧我是覺得中華航空這個名字也蠻久了齁那大家也用的蠻習慣的那改名勢必要經過很長的一個討論更大規模的討論所以你也是支持中華航空嗎\n61011\t73079\t欸我覺得目前沒有聽到需要改名字的這個說法。好那沒關係那我大致上我就直接跟部長確認就是原來像中華航空歷史悠久你也是覺得中華航空繼續存在是正確的嘛。\n73746\t75407\t五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n98820\t100501\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n115029\t138825\t部長今天許多的都是在講這個階級我們的英雄回台啊那這個進來的過程中是非常的艱辛啊那我想是不是可以您就是簡短20秒30秒回應一下總結那麼多委員的一個質詢跟關心預計改善裁法的一個重點簡單30秒把幾個重點列一下好了\n139065\t165871\t好報告委員檢討的部分其實在管制區外面是跟體育署配合那管制區外面看起來的這個狀況是還好包含拍照的地方也是職棒聯盟那邊有去建議啦那這個部分沒有問題那管制區內其實這一次該綠定都有綠定那有廠商沒有配合當時的綠定這就是應該要檢討的部分就是為什麼第一為什麼他沒有沒有這個配合當時的綠定第二該裁罰要裁罰\n166531\t179770\t所以目前我們希望淘擠公司提出裁罰而我剛剛聽淘擠公司在講目前應該是以裁罰在最高金額100萬的這個裁罰來提出來好OK那我直接接著預算的部分來做討論那\n184234\t202302\t我想說接著回應到電動車的部分。2025軍營排碳的趨勢所以我們2030預計要達到這個全面的電動大客車還有全面動動化的目標在過去的話公路局的資訊那2030預計11700台的市民公車截至2023年已經累積推動了1883輛的電動車領排\n210747\t213353\t它這個數據是公路局的時候提供的\n214008\t234674\t但是我們在看到他的目標要打到非常的辛苦那因為時間有限那我們在看後面的資料在2024年113年8月那這個現有公車及市區汽車客運電動大車佔比佔表的部分那他總車輛是14683那其中電動大客車到2024年8月底是1846\n242486\t256813\t那先姑且不論他的這個進度打到2030年的目標是非常的有距離那想問一下兩個數據同樣都是官方數據為何在2023年1883量到2024年的8月反而降為降為這個1846量\n270514\t296159\t這個我是不是請市長跟委員好,沒關係市長剛剛我們大概畫面上有兩個課題啦第一個部分就是說電動大哥車1846然後那個數據有一些變動我們如果記得的話像臺動施工車四方客運有這個推出然後有一些比較早期的那個車輛有進出的這些相關的部分所以那個有新車進來有舊車走出去這我清楚那所以說凸顯了\n298039\t316102\t這一年的部分來講還是維持在1800左右但是公路局今年這個核定的增加這個2000多輛那2000多輛的話目前各地方政府到陸陸續續在核給這個客運業者這邊那客運業者也開始這個訂車然後等等的部分\n316843\t339934\t沒關係,那個我但是在數據上在凸顯啦,藍頭線目前是0啊。那在520那時候,質詢的時候,市長跟局長知道就是要請這個交通部來不僅是協助我的選區藍頭,還包括在2030年的目標啊,我相信這個其實要加把勁啊。\n341354\t357359\t我再次還是要肯定其實像交通部或公路局對於南投其實也幫忙很多的事情像是幸福巴士所以說本期在這裡提出這個部分希望未來的後面的五年六年那能夠緊鑼密鼓還能夠夾把勁\n359920\t376697\t最後再補充一下就是在之前的交通部所開的會議也有提到這個除了車體的補助在國內國產的電芯電池它的部分其實確實跟國外來講還是需要去做協助\n377398\t404737\t那如何能夠讓這個整體的電動巴士或是在我們臺灣的這個電動的產業能夠來提升那所以還是也希望交通部在那一次的會議之後有提到這個國產的電芯電池的補助那藉此來提高還相關這個電動巴士業者能夠意願能夠達到2030年這個淨零排碳的目標我在想在這裡也提出還希望你們能夠納入討論\n406199\t410671\t報告委員這個部分沒有問題,只要是用國內的電信我們的補助也會再加碼。預計加碼多少?100還是150萬?\n413939\t438551\t跟這個委員報告目前是這個增加100萬的一個補助。然後我在想如果說要評估一下如果現在的進步那麼緩慢的話是不是需要再加倍?跟委員報告一下那個電子那個國產化這一個電芯的部分的話目前啦大概國內有兩大廠在做這個努力可能量產的部分是在這個明年啦\n439051\t446417\t五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n467452\t495334\t就是在預算書跟資料上面得知目前來講車禍的死亡或是交通事故的死亡他目前是這七個月來講是5.7%跟目前要降低的10%還是有一個差距但是在預算書上面所呈現的這個宣傳費是增加了112.7%那在增列的那個宣傳預算他要怎麼宣傳要怎麼改善\n496628\t514143\t報告委員這個部分的宣傳我們主要會放在比較高齡者的宣傳因為我們現在看到數據上面看到高齡者的這個事故跟死亡的這個數字其實還蠻高的而且逐年在增高那這個部分我們相當擔心我們希望說在整個交通觀念的宣導的部分我們可以再做加強\n515044\t528258\t包括 電視通路也好社群通路也好甚至我們在各個地方也都有辦活動希望能夠讓老人家能夠聽到一些比較安全的這些交通的概念那這個部分我們會持續來努力\n528720\t546707\t那本期還是建議預計增加的這個部分如何能夠讓老人能夠清楚知道以及受到這個宣導那相關的規劃其實也要讓交通委員會的委員能夠充分知道那最後因為宣傳費的增加還都是非常的敏感\n547427\t560246\t那所以是希望錢花在道果上那這個部分我們所增加的預算全部都是拿來讓交通安全的觀念的宣導的部分更加強好那就希望能夠有效降低是好謝謝委員\n","txt":"有請部長。請陳部長。謝謝召委。\n委員好部長好那延續著剛才先祥委員所提到的那這個意識形態的話不要去衝擊許多原本的價值那在剛才也有提到如果說王逸川他又在要求部長一定要把中華航空改名的話那你可以堅守中華航空不會因此而改名嗎\n報告委員目前都沒有這樣的討論所以這個大概是一個猜測或者是好那假如這樣子那你也為中華航空講講話可以捍衛著中華航空吧我是覺得中華航空這個名字也蠻久了齁那大家也用的蠻習慣的那改名勢必要經過很長的一個討論更大規模的討論所以你也是支持中華航空嗎\n欸我覺得目前沒有聽到需要改名字的這個說法。好那沒關係那我大致上我就直接跟部長確認就是原來像中華航空歷史悠久你也是覺得中華航空繼續存在是正確的嘛。\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n部長今天許多的都是在講這個階級我們的英雄回台啊那這個進來的過程中是非常的艱辛啊那我想是不是可以您就是簡短20秒30秒回應一下總結那麼多委員的一個質詢跟關心預計改善裁法的一個重點簡單30秒把幾個重點列一下好了\n好報告委員檢討的部分其實在管制區外面是跟體育署配合那管制區外面看起來的這個狀況是還好包含拍照的地方也是職棒聯盟那邊有去建議啦那這個部分沒有問題那管制區內其實這一次該綠定都有綠定那有廠商沒有配合當時的綠定這就是應該要檢討的部分就是為什麼第一為什麼他沒有沒有這個配合當時的綠定第二該裁罰要裁罰\n所以目前我們希望淘擠公司提出裁罰而我剛剛聽淘擠公司在講目前應該是以裁罰在最高金額100萬的這個裁罰來提出來好OK那我直接接著預算的部分來做討論那\n我想說接著回應到電動車的部分。2025軍營排碳的趨勢所以我們2030預計要達到這個全面的電動大客車還有全面動動化的目標在過去的話公路局的資訊那2030預計11700台的市民公車截至2023年已經累積推動了1883輛的電動車領排\n它這個數據是公路局的時候提供的\n但是我們在看到他的目標要打到非常的辛苦那因為時間有限那我們在看後面的資料在2024年113年8月那這個現有公車及市區汽車客運電動大車佔比佔表的部分那他總車輛是14683那其中電動大客車到2024年8月底是1846\n那先姑且不論他的這個進度打到2030年的目標是非常的有距離那想問一下兩個數據同樣都是官方數據為何在2023年1883量到2024年的8月反而降為降為這個1846量\n這個我是不是請市長跟委員好,沒關係市長剛剛我們大概畫面上有兩個課題啦第一個部分就是說電動大哥車1846然後那個數據有一些變動我們如果記得的話像臺動施工車四方客運有這個推出然後有一些比較早期的那個車輛有進出的這些相關的部分所以那個有新車進來有舊車走出去這我清楚那所以說凸顯了\n這一年的部分來講還是維持在1800左右但是公路局今年這個核定的增加這個2000多輛那2000多輛的話目前各地方政府到陸陸續續在核給這個客運業者這邊那客運業者也開始這個訂車然後等等的部分\n沒關係,那個我但是在數據上在凸顯啦,藍頭線目前是0啊。那在520那時候,質詢的時候,市長跟局長知道就是要請這個交通部來不僅是協助我的選區藍頭,還包括在2030年的目標啊,我相信這個其實要加把勁啊。\n我再次還是要肯定其實像交通部或公路局對於南投其實也幫忙很多的事情像是幸福巴士所以說本期在這裡提出這個部分希望未來的後面的五年六年那能夠緊鑼密鼓還能夠夾把勁\n最後再補充一下就是在之前的交通部所開的會議也有提到這個除了車體的補助在國內國產的電芯電池它的部分其實確實跟國外來講還是需要去做協助\n那如何能夠讓這個整體的電動巴士或是在我們臺灣的這個電動的產業能夠來提升那所以還是也希望交通部在那一次的會議之後有提到這個國產的電芯電池的補助那藉此來提高還相關這個電動巴士業者能夠意願能夠達到2030年這個淨零排碳的目標我在想在這裡也提出還希望你們能夠納入討論\n報告委員這個部分沒有問題,只要是用國內的電信我們的補助也會再加碼。預計加碼多少?100還是150萬?\n跟這個委員報告目前是這個增加100萬的一個補助。然後我在想如果說要評估一下如果現在的進步那麼緩慢的話是不是需要再加倍?跟委員報告一下那個電子那個國產化這一個電芯的部分的話目前啦大概國內有兩大廠在做這個努力可能量產的部分是在這個明年啦\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n就是在預算書跟資料上面得知目前來講車禍的死亡或是交通事故的死亡他目前是這七個月來講是5.7%跟目前要降低的10%還是有一個差距但是在預算書上面所呈現的這個宣傳費是增加了112.7%那在增列的那個宣傳預算他要怎麼宣傳要怎麼改善\n報告委員這個部分的宣傳我們主要會放在比較高齡者的宣傳因為我們現在看到數據上面看到高齡者的這個事故跟死亡的這個數字其實還蠻高的而且逐年在增高那這個部分我們相當擔心我們希望說在整個交通觀念的宣導的部分我們可以再做加強\n包括 電視通路也好社群通路也好甚至我們在各個地方也都有辦活動希望能夠讓老人家能夠聽到一些比較安全的這些交通的概念那這個部分我們會持續來努力\n那本期還是建議預計增加的這個部分如何能夠讓老人能夠清楚知道以及受到這個宣導那相關的規劃其實也要讓交通委員會的委員能夠充分知道那最後因為宣傳費的增加還都是非常的敏感\n那所以是希望錢花在道果上那這個部分我們所增加的預算全部都是拿來讓交通安全的觀念的宣導的部分更加強好那就希望能夠有效降低是好謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.984 --> 00:09.190\n有請部長。請陳部長。謝謝召委。\n\n00:17.022 --> 00:37.628\n委員好部長好那延續著剛才先祥委員所提到的那這個意識形態的話不要去衝擊許多原本的價值那在剛才也有提到如果說王逸川他又在要求部長一定要把中華航空改名的話那你可以堅守中華航空不會因此而改名嗎\n\n00:38.769 --> 01:00.291\n報告委員目前都沒有這樣的討論所以這個大概是一個猜測或者是好那假如這樣子那你也為中華航空講講話可以捍衛著中華航空吧我是覺得中華航空這個名字也蠻久了齁那大家也用的蠻習慣的那改名勢必要經過很長的一個討論更大規模的討論所以你也是支持中華航空嗎\n\n01:01.011 --> 01:13.079\n欸我覺得目前沒有聽到需要改名字的這個說法。好那沒關係那我大致上我就直接跟部長確認就是原來像中華航空歷史悠久你也是覺得中華航空繼續存在是正確的嘛。\n\n01:13.746 --> 01:15.407\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n01:38.820 --> 01:40.501\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n01:55.029 --> 02:18.825\n部長今天許多的都是在講這個階級我們的英雄回台啊那這個進來的過程中是非常的艱辛啊那我想是不是可以您就是簡短20秒30秒回應一下總結那麼多委員的一個質詢跟關心預計改善裁法的一個重點簡單30秒把幾個重點列一下好了\n\n02:19.065 --> 02:45.871\n好報告委員檢討的部分其實在管制區外面是跟體育署配合那管制區外面看起來的這個狀況是還好包含拍照的地方也是職棒聯盟那邊有去建議啦那這個部分沒有問題那管制區內其實這一次該綠定都有綠定那有廠商沒有配合當時的綠定這就是應該要檢討的部分就是為什麼第一為什麼他沒有沒有這個配合當時的綠定第二該裁罰要裁罰\n\n02:46.531 --> 02:59.770\n所以目前我們希望淘擠公司提出裁罰而我剛剛聽淘擠公司在講目前應該是以裁罰在最高金額100萬的這個裁罰來提出來好OK那我直接接著預算的部分來做討論那\n\n03:04.234 --> 03:22.302\n我想說接著回應到電動車的部分。2025軍營排碳的趨勢所以我們2030預計要達到這個全面的電動大客車還有全面動動化的目標在過去的話公路局的資訊那2030預計11700台的市民公車截至2023年已經累積推動了1883輛的電動車領排\n\n03:30.747 --> 03:33.353\n它這個數據是公路局的時候提供的\n\n03:34.008 --> 03:54.674\n但是我們在看到他的目標要打到非常的辛苦那因為時間有限那我們在看後面的資料在2024年113年8月那這個現有公車及市區汽車客運電動大車佔比佔表的部分那他總車輛是14683那其中電動大客車到2024年8月底是1846\n\n04:02.486 --> 04:16.813\n那先姑且不論他的這個進度打到2030年的目標是非常的有距離那想問一下兩個數據同樣都是官方數據為何在2023年1883量到2024年的8月反而降為降為這個1846量\n\n04:30.514 --> 04:56.159\n這個我是不是請市長跟委員好,沒關係市長剛剛我們大概畫面上有兩個課題啦第一個部分就是說電動大哥車1846然後那個數據有一些變動我們如果記得的話像臺動施工車四方客運有這個推出然後有一些比較早期的那個車輛有進出的這些相關的部分所以那個有新車進來有舊車走出去這我清楚那所以說凸顯了\n\n04:58.039 --> 05:16.102\n這一年的部分來講還是維持在1800左右但是公路局今年這個核定的增加這個2000多輛那2000多輛的話目前各地方政府到陸陸續續在核給這個客運業者這邊那客運業者也開始這個訂車然後等等的部分\n\n05:16.843 --> 05:39.934\n沒關係,那個我但是在數據上在凸顯啦,藍頭線目前是0啊。那在520那時候,質詢的時候,市長跟局長知道就是要請這個交通部來不僅是協助我的選區藍頭,還包括在2030年的目標啊,我相信這個其實要加把勁啊。\n\n05:41.354 --> 05:57.359\n我再次還是要肯定其實像交通部或公路局對於南投其實也幫忙很多的事情像是幸福巴士所以說本期在這裡提出這個部分希望未來的後面的五年六年那能夠緊鑼密鼓還能夠夾把勁\n\n05:59.920 --> 06:16.697\n最後再補充一下就是在之前的交通部所開的會議也有提到這個除了車體的補助在國內國產的電芯電池它的部分其實確實跟國外來講還是需要去做協助\n\n06:17.398 --> 06:44.737\n那如何能夠讓這個整體的電動巴士或是在我們臺灣的這個電動的產業能夠來提升那所以還是也希望交通部在那一次的會議之後有提到這個國產的電芯電池的補助那藉此來提高還相關這個電動巴士業者能夠意願能夠達到2030年這個淨零排碳的目標我在想在這裡也提出還希望你們能夠納入討論\n\n06:46.199 --> 06:50.671\n報告委員這個部分沒有問題,只要是用國內的電信我們的補助也會再加碼。預計加碼多少?100還是150萬?\n\n06:53.939 --> 07:18.551\n跟這個委員報告目前是這個增加100萬的一個補助。然後我在想如果說要評估一下如果現在的進步那麼緩慢的話是不是需要再加倍?跟委員報告一下那個電子那個國產化這一個電芯的部分的話目前啦大概國內有兩大廠在做這個努力可能量產的部分是在這個明年啦\n\n07:19.051 --> 07:26.417\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n07:47.452 --> 08:15.334\n就是在預算書跟資料上面得知目前來講車禍的死亡或是交通事故的死亡他目前是這七個月來講是5.7%跟目前要降低的10%還是有一個差距但是在預算書上面所呈現的這個宣傳費是增加了112.7%那在增列的那個宣傳預算他要怎麼宣傳要怎麼改善\n\n08:16.628 --> 08:34.143\n報告委員這個部分的宣傳我們主要會放在比較高齡者的宣傳因為我們現在看到數據上面看到高齡者的這個事故跟死亡的這個數字其實還蠻高的而且逐年在增高那這個部分我們相當擔心我們希望說在整個交通觀念的宣導的部分我們可以再做加強\n\n08:35.044 --> 08:48.258\n包括電視通路也好社群通路也好甚至我們在各個地方也都有辦活動希望能夠讓老人家能夠聽到一些比較安全的這些交通的概念那這個部分我們會持續來努力\n\n08:48.720 --> 09:06.707\n那本期還是建議預計增加的這個部分如何能夠讓老人能夠清楚知道以及受到這個宣導那相關的規劃其實也要讓交通委員會的委員能夠充分知道那最後因為宣傳費的增加還都是非常的敏感\n\n09:07.427 --> 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