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00:00:38,416\n局長還有部長我想這個幾個問題來請教就是說我們考選部為了整個營運憲法我們在113年憲判制第6號的一個判決針對公務人員特種考試就是一級一般的警察人員的考試規則第8條第一款的一個規定就是說考試就是體檢體格的一個問題\n\n3\n00:00:58,875 --> 00:01:02,577\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n4\n00:01:15,805 --> 00:01:18,188\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n5\n00:01:35,686 --> 00:01:49,807\n我倒是有一個想法啦那這一次全面的去檢視體格檢查項目裡面你去建議刪除兩項警察人員考試規則的一個三高的一個標準嘛那可是呢內政部在10月8號的時候也\n\n6\n00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:57,596\n主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n7\n00:02:10,785 --> 00:02:32,576\n後來好像意見又有一點點保守了,這個不曉得部長您這邊的看法怎麼樣?跟委員報告,如委員所說,因為那個身高限制是屬於一年內定期失效,所以我們必須要在12月底之前就把它先處理掉,那目前優暖機關他的,他就是,就是刪除,他的建議就是刪除,那這一項...會刪除嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:33,496 --> 00:02:34,437\n內政部這個建議我是覺得很好啦\n\n9\n00:03:00,913 --> 00:03:20,364\n考試院這個地方部長我來提供你參考部長你也來思考看看你像這一次我們這個國家隊出去就李玉敏這個他那個刺青那個紋身我剛很多人就跟他講說8加9我看了實在是我就有點莫名其妙這個都是老一輩的人\n\n10\n00:03:21,465 --> 00:03:26,107\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n11\n00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:52,402\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n12\n00:04:36,892 --> 00:04:49,884\n目前的考試規則是可以,也就是跟委員報告其實並沒有說刺青就不能但是他必須經過他現在問題是他經過醫師檢查然後去確定他們有不亞意涵或者有斑派等的意涵目前實務上就是有在經過醫師來做一個判斷\n\n13\n00:04:58,052 --> 00:05:24,478\n其實老實說內政部來講的話他們是覺得說由醫師判斷在實務上現在的確是有遇到比較麻煩的地方所以才建議刪除但是我覺得這件事情還是要回到因為這個是屬於社會爭議比較大的事項所以我們目前是把它跟升高的兩個把它拆開處理那那個刺青這個爭議比較大的事項我們希望還是必須要等到還是一樣等到我們院會有充分的討論以後再來進行處理\n\n14\n00:05:26,218 --> 00:05:42,250\n本來那個規則裡面第10個我都認為這樣的一個負面的一個放在那個地方把它明示出來本身對刺青跟紋身就有很大的一個負面上的給人家賦予這樣的一個標籤化的意涵\n\n15\n00:05:43,547 --> 00:05:44,948\n議長,這不像你了,這個什麼大家可以來討論,這個很明顯就不合時宜啊。\n\n16\n00:06:09,428 --> 00:06:10,449\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n17\n00:06:29,502 --> 00:06:53,488\n但是您剛剛舉這個很好的例子我們很多運動選手身上不管是面積大面積小其實有很多都是有刺青但如果他能夠考得上他適不適合當我想大概沒有人會挑戰所以我覺得這件事在社會這樣的互相辯證當中可能以後可以理出一個結論或者一個比較合理的做法我每次看到你看我特別昨天我在質詢我特別去看一個埃及的影片人家那個文淳\n\n18\n00:06:54,713 --> 00:06:57,256\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n19\n00:07:20,786 --> 00:07:28,278\n根委員報告,剛剛說的那一個委員局的例子很好,它在我們現在就屬於原住民寄傳統遺書,那是可以的。\n\n20\n00:07:28,666 --> 00:07:54,294\n當然剛剛還有一些文化藝術,所以我還是比較希望我們在這再做充分的討論,也許有一些正面表列可以表達再更多。另外,我針對於國家考試的一個公平性跟多元性的問題,我想請教部長就是說,假設我是考官,我要出一個題目來讓你闡述一下生命中的好奇心,我不曉得你會怎麼樣來回應我?\n\n21\n00:07:55,994 --> 00:07:56,935\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n22\n00:08:14,298 --> 00:08:42,031\n第一個想法如果是考生我想說AI可能在我公務上會有多大的一個方便如何來促進整個我整個處理整個這個面對這些公務的時候讓他更簡便或者說讓他有更精進的地方結果到最後討出來的題目是生命中的好奇心我就覺得這個很怪那個題目如果是說AI人工智慧是可以取代人力嗎或者說AI人工智慧對於公務體系有什麼弊端跟益處嗎\n\n23\n00:08:43,351 --> 00:09:10,072\n這可能就沒有那麼八股啊順應時事是好事啊但是我看啊這個我們整個在考題喔最主要是你要去測試出這個人適不適合來當公務人員啊我看那個題目喔那怕死人我看完之後我才知道說你去看喔比如國文考題啊本時在帶民務長跟部長來看今年啊高考課題的一個國文考題中其中的一題啊他說喔有方位一詞在使用上啊\n\n24\n00:09:11,178 --> 00:09:19,462\n有時賦予文化上的意涵,下列選項何者在方位之外具有其他的意涵?A.\n\n25\n00:09:19,462 --> 00:09:23,684\n駙馬依北風,月鳥潮南枝。B.\n\n26\n00:09:23,684 --> 00:09:28,366\n孤符號外爺,翔鳥鳴北鄰。3.\n\n27\n00:09:28,366 --> 00:09:31,107\n士主難免事業公餐。阿你又答案你對一下。阿不然A是什麼意思?A為什麼不行?\n\n28\n00:09:38,114 --> 00:09:40,015\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n29\n00:10:02,971 --> 00:10:18,486\n我認為啦我認為啦我看到這個題目以後然後你看辦公室同仁要自證退休禮物給長官不適合使用哪一個題詞?絕功其為、薰月永垂、形宜可思你們答案是C這個不行這人死掉了嘛齁永懷得風欸我在參加公祭的時候我也常常看到永懷得風啊那D也不行啊\n\n30\n00:10:28,049 --> 00:10:51,100\n啊所以你們答案為什麼是C?叫我去考試我連D我都把它選下去了。昨天明天我們常常看到這個啊。欸那個褻瘩啊。我們去公祭的時候啊。常常會看到這個咧。啊如果剛好他那位考生他昨天晚上剛好去參加他的親人。欸昨天晚上有那個那個不適合就把他選D。你說他不對。啊這也好奇怪啊。\n\n31\n00:11:10,757 --> 00:11:28,775\n因為這些大概都是臨命出來我們叫臨時命題國文在過去都是這樣那我們現在希望拔走題庫可以早一點的來進行檢視讓它比較傾向於是比較測驗能力的方面考試委要怎麼出題立法院不會有意見啦我們一定都是尊重我的意思就是說\n\n32\n00:11:29,696 --> 00:11:29,816\n總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n33\n00:11:51,229 --> 00:11:54,830\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n34\n00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:42,833\n接下來,我不知道您的方向到底是怎樣,還是您都只是親自說說而已?沒有,已經在進行了,那我們會傾向於說,因為所謂的取代變成科目取代,但是另外一個走向是,即使在現有的國文、英文這樣的科目裡面,其實就可以把這邊開始以比例的題目開始把它融入,我們現在要開始做這件事情。但是它是基本能力,我們比較強調說,現象車一般會以為是某種的\n\n35\n00:12:43,953 --> 00:13:01,828\n其實它真正的解釋是屬於一種基本素養跟能力的測驗比如說批判思考比如說溝通這樣的一個東西那我們開始把它融入既有的題目我的意思我總結我的意思是說國家在取材這個國家考試我們確實考選職務上必須要與時俱進也不要開考生的玩笑考試委員權力很大點試委員權力很大但是有時候你這樣突發奇想\n\n36\n00:13:12,216 --> 00:13:13,198\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8092\t11279\t謝謝中央編招委有請我們考試院秘書長還有我們考選部部長\n16380\t38416\t局長還有部長我想這個幾個問題來請教就是說我們考選部為了整個營運憲法我們在113年憲判制第6號的一個判決針對公務人員特種考試就是一級一般的警察人員的考試規則第8條第一款的一個規定就是說考試就是體檢體格的一個問題\n39957\t58524\t議員會議員會議員會議\n58875\t62577\t收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n75805\t78188\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管\n95686\t109807\t我倒是有一個想法啦那這一次全面的去檢視體格檢查項目裡面你去建議刪除兩項警察人員考試規則的一個三高的一個標準嘛那可是呢內政部在10月8號的時候也\n112310\t117596\t主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n130785\t152576\t後來好像意見又有一點點保守了,這個不曉得部長您這邊的看法怎麼樣?跟委員報告,如委員所說,因為那個身高限制是屬於一年內定期失效,所以我們必須要在12月底之前就把它先處理掉,那目前優暖機關他的,他就是,就是刪除,他的建議就是刪除,那這一項...會刪除嗎?\n153496\t154437\t內政部這個建議我是覺得很好啦\n180913\t200364\t考試院這個地方部長我來提供你參考部長你也來思考看看你像這一次我們這個國家隊出去就李玉敏這個他那個刺青那個紋身我剛很多人就跟他講說8加9我看了實在是我就有點莫名其妙這個都是老一輩的人\n201465\t206107\t收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n230180\t232402\t收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n257807\t276613\t議員議員議員議員\n276892\t289884\t目前的考試規則是可以,也就是跟委員報告其實並沒有說刺青就不能但是他必須經過他現在問題是他經過醫師檢查然後去確定他們有不亞意涵或者有斑派等的意涵目前實務上就是有在經過醫師來做一個判斷\n298052\t324478\t其實老實說內政部來講的話他們是覺得說由醫師判斷在實務上現在的確是有遇到比較麻煩的地方所以才建議刪除但是我覺得這件事情還是要回到因為這個是屬於社會爭議比較大的事項所以我們目前是把它跟升高的兩個把它拆開處理那那個刺青這個爭議比較大的事項我們希望還是必須要等到還是一樣等到我們院會有充分的討論以後再來進行處理\n326218\t342250\t本來那個規則裡面第10個我都認為這樣的一個負面的一個放在那個地方把它明示出來本身對刺青跟紋身就有很大的一個負面上的給人家賦予這樣的一個標籤化的意涵\n343547\t344948\t議長,這不像你了,這個什麼大家可以來討論,這個很明顯就不合時宜啊。\n369428\t370449\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n389502\t413488\t但是您剛剛舉這個很好的例子我們很多運動選手身上不管是面積大面積小其實有很多都是有刺青但如果他能夠考得上他適不適合當我想大概沒有人會挑戰所以我覺得這件事在社會這樣的互相辯證當中可能以後可以理出一個結論或者一個比較合理的做法我每次看到你看我特別昨天我在質詢我特別去看一個埃及的影片人家那個文淳\n414713\t417256\t五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n440786\t448278\t根委員報告,剛剛說的那一個委員局的例子很好,它在我們現在就屬於原住民寄傳統遺書,那是可以的。\n448666\t474294\t當然剛剛還有一些文化藝術,所以我還是比較希望我們在這再做充分的討論,也許有一些正面表列可以表達再更多。另外,我針對於國家考試的一個公平性跟多元性的問題,我想請教部長就是說,假設我是考官,我要出一個題目來讓你闡述一下生命中的好奇心,我不曉得你會怎麼樣來回應我?\n475994\t476935\t三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n494298\t522031\t第一個想法如果是考生我想說AI可能在我公務上會有多大的一個方便如何來促進整個我整個處理整個這個面對這些公務的時候讓他更簡便或者說讓他有更精進的地方結果到最後討出來的題目是生命中的好奇心我就覺得這個很怪那個題目如果是說AI人工智慧是可以取代人力嗎或者說AI人工智慧對於公務體系有什麼弊端跟益處嗎\n523351\t550072\t這可能就沒有那麼八股啊順應時事是好事啊但是我看啊這個我們整個在考題喔最主要是你要去測試出這個人適不適合來當公務人員啊我看那個題目喔那怕死人我看完之後我才知道說你去看喔比如國文考題啊本時在帶民務長跟部長來看今年啊高考課題的一個國文考題中其中的一題啊他說喔有方位一詞在使用上啊\n551178\t559462\t有時賦予文化上的意涵,下列選項何者在方位之外具有其他的意涵?A.\n559462\t563684\t駙馬依北風,月鳥潮南枝。B.\n563684\t568366\t孤符號外爺,翔鳥鳴北鄰。3.\n568366\t571107\t士主難免事業公餐。阿你又答案你對一下。阿不然A是什麼意思?A為什麼不行?\n578114\t580015\t五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n602971\t618486\t我認為啦我認為啦我看到這個題目以後然後你看辦公室同仁要自證退休禮物給長官不適合使用哪一個題詞?絕功其為、薰月永垂、形宜可思你們答案是C這個不行這人死掉了嘛齁永懷得風欸我在參加公祭的時候我也常常看到永懷得風啊那D也不行啊\n628049\t651100\t啊所以你們答案為什麼是C?叫我去考試我連D我都把它選下去了。昨天明天我們常常看到這個啊。欸那個褻瘩啊。我們去公祭的時候啊。常常會看到這個咧。啊如果剛好他那位考生他昨天晚上剛好去參加他的親人。欸昨天晚上有那個那個不適合就把他選D。你說他不對。啊這也好奇怪啊。\n652705\t670657\t議員議員\n670757\t688775\t因為這些大概都是臨命出來我們叫臨時命題國文在過去都是這樣那我們現在希望拔走題庫可以早一點的來進行檢視讓它比較傾向於是比較測驗能力的方面考試委要怎麼出題立法院不會有意見啦我們一定都是尊重我的意思就是說\n689696\t689816\t總預算案附屬單位預算\n711229\t714830\t收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n736559\t762833\t接下來,我不知道您的方向到底是怎樣,還是您都只是親自說說而已?沒有,已經在進行了,那我們會傾向於說,因為所謂的取代變成科目取代,但是另外一個走向是,即使在現有的國文、英文這樣的科目裡面,其實就可以把這邊開始以比例的題目開始把它融入,我們現在要開始做這件事情。但是它是基本能力,我們比較強調說,現象車一般會以為是某種的\n763953\t781828\t其實它真正的解釋是屬於一種基本素養跟能力的測驗比如說批判思考比如說溝通這樣的一個東西那我們開始把它融入既有的題目我的意思 我總結我的意思是說國家在取材 這個國家考試我們確實考選職務上必須要與時俱進也不要開考生的玩笑考試委員權力很大 點試委員權力很大但是有時候你這樣突發奇想\n792216\t793198\t三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n","txt":"謝謝中央編招委有請我們考試院秘書長還有我們考選部部長\n局長還有部長我想這個幾個問題來請教就是說我們考選部為了整個營運憲法我們在113年憲判制第6號的一個判決針對公務人員特種考試就是一級一般的警察人員的考試規則第8條第一款的一個規定就是說考試就是體檢體格的一個問題\n議員會議員會議員會議\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管\n我倒是有一個想法啦那這一次全面的去檢視體格檢查項目裡面你去建議刪除兩項警察人員考試規則的一個三高的一個標準嘛那可是呢內政部在10月8號的時候也\n主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n後來好像意見又有一點點保守了,這個不曉得部長您這邊的看法怎麼樣?跟委員報告,如委員所說,因為那個身高限制是屬於一年內定期失效,所以我們必須要在12月底之前就把它先處理掉,那目前優暖機關他的,他就是,就是刪除,他的建議就是刪除,那這一項...會刪除嗎?\n內政部這個建議我是覺得很好啦\n考試院這個地方部長我來提供你參考部長你也來思考看看你像這一次我們這個國家隊出去就李玉敏這個他那個刺青那個紋身我剛很多人就跟他講說8加9我看了實在是我就有點莫名其妙這個都是老一輩的人\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n議員議員議員議員\n目前的考試規則是可以,也就是跟委員報告其實並沒有說刺青就不能但是他必須經過他現在問題是他經過醫師檢查然後去確定他們有不亞意涵或者有斑派等的意涵目前實務上就是有在經過醫師來做一個判斷\n其實老實說內政部來講的話他們是覺得說由醫師判斷在實務上現在的確是有遇到比較麻煩的地方所以才建議刪除但是我覺得這件事情還是要回到因為這個是屬於社會爭議比較大的事項所以我們目前是把它跟升高的兩個把它拆開處理那那個刺青這個爭議比較大的事項我們希望還是必須要等到還是一樣等到我們院會有充分的討論以後再來進行處理\n本來那個規則裡面第10個我都認為這樣的一個負面的一個放在那個地方把它明示出來本身對刺青跟紋身就有很大的一個負面上的給人家賦予這樣的一個標籤化的意涵\n議長,這不像你了,這個什麼大家可以來討論,這個很明顯就不合時宜啊。\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n但是您剛剛舉這個很好的例子我們很多運動選手身上不管是面積大面積小其實有很多都是有刺青但如果他能夠考得上他適不適合當我想大概沒有人會挑戰所以我覺得這件事在社會這樣的互相辯證當中可能以後可以理出一個結論或者一個比較合理的做法我每次看到你看我特別昨天我在質詢我特別去看一個埃及的影片人家那個文淳\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n根委員報告,剛剛說的那一個委員局的例子很好,它在我們現在就屬於原住民寄傳統遺書,那是可以的。\n當然剛剛還有一些文化藝術,所以我還是比較希望我們在這再做充分的討論,也許有一些正面表列可以表達再更多。另外,我針對於國家考試的一個公平性跟多元性的問題,我想請教部長就是說,假設我是考官,我要出一個題目來讓你闡述一下生命中的好奇心,我不曉得你會怎麼樣來回應我?\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n第一個想法如果是考生我想說AI可能在我公務上會有多大的一個方便如何來促進整個我整個處理整個這個面對這些公務的時候讓他更簡便或者說讓他有更精進的地方結果到最後討出來的題目是生命中的好奇心我就覺得這個很怪那個題目如果是說AI人工智慧是可以取代人力嗎或者說AI人工智慧對於公務體系有什麼弊端跟益處嗎\n這可能就沒有那麼八股啊順應時事是好事啊但是我看啊這個我們整個在考題喔最主要是你要去測試出這個人適不適合來當公務人員啊我看那個題目喔那怕死人我看完之後我才知道說你去看喔比如國文考題啊本時在帶民務長跟部長來看今年啊高考課題的一個國文考題中其中的一題啊他說喔有方位一詞在使用上啊\n有時賦予文化上的意涵,下列選項何者在方位之外具有其他的意涵?A.\n駙馬依北風,月鳥潮南枝。B.\n孤符號外爺,翔鳥鳴北鄰。3.\n士主難免事業公餐。阿你又答案你對一下。阿不然A是什麼意思?A為什麼不行?\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n我認為啦我認為啦我看到這個題目以後然後你看辦公室同仁要自證退休禮物給長官不適合使用哪一個題詞?絕功其為、薰月永垂、形宜可思你們答案是C這個不行這人死掉了嘛齁永懷得風欸我在參加公祭的時候我也常常看到永懷得風啊那D也不行啊\n啊所以你們答案為什麼是C?叫我去考試我連D我都把它選下去了。昨天明天我們常常看到這個啊。欸那個褻瘩啊。我們去公祭的時候啊。常常會看到這個咧。啊如果剛好他那位考生他昨天晚上剛好去參加他的親人。欸昨天晚上有那個那個不適合就把他選D。你說他不對。啊這也好奇怪啊。\n議員議員\n因為這些大概都是臨命出來我們叫臨時命題國文在過去都是這樣那我們現在希望拔走題庫可以早一點的來進行檢視讓它比較傾向於是比較測驗能力的方面考試委要怎麼出題立法院不會有意見啦我們一定都是尊重我的意思就是說\n總預算案附屬單位預算\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n接下來,我不知道您的方向到底是怎樣,還是您都只是親自說說而已?沒有,已經在進行了,那我們會傾向於說,因為所謂的取代變成科目取代,但是另外一個走向是,即使在現有的國文、英文這樣的科目裡面,其實就可以把這邊開始以比例的題目開始把它融入,我們現在要開始做這件事情。但是它是基本能力,我們比較強調說,現象車一般會以為是某種的\n其實它真正的解釋是屬於一種基本素養跟能力的測驗比如說批判思考比如說溝通這樣的一個東西那我們開始把它融入既有的題目我的意思 我總結我的意思是說國家在取材 這個國家考試我們確實考選職務上必須要與時俱進也不要開考生的玩笑考試委員權力很大 點試委員權力很大但是有時候你這樣突發奇想\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.092 --> 00:11.279\n謝謝中央編招委有請我們考試院秘書長還有我們考選部部長\n\n00:16.380 --> 00:38.416\n局長還有部長我想這個幾個問題來請教就是說我們考選部為了整個營運憲法我們在113年憲判制第6號的一個判決針對公務人員特種考試就是一級一般的警察人員的考試規則第8條第一款的一個規定就是說考試就是體檢體格的一個問題\n\n00:58.875 --> 01:02.577\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n01:15.805 --> 01:18.188\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n01:35.686 --> 01:49.807\n我倒是有一個想法啦那這一次全面的去檢視體格檢查項目裡面你去建議刪除兩項警察人員考試規則的一個三高的一個標準嘛那可是呢內政部在10月8號的時候也\n\n01:52.310 --> 01:57.596\n主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n02:10.785 --> 02:32.576\n後來好像意見又有一點點保守了,這個不曉得部長您這邊的看法怎麼樣?跟委員報告,如委員所說,因為那個身高限制是屬於一年內定期失效,所以我們必須要在12月底之前就把它先處理掉,那目前優暖機關他的,他就是,就是刪除,他的建議就是刪除,那這一項...會刪除嗎?\n\n02:33.496 --> 02:34.437\n內政部這個建議我是覺得很好啦\n\n03:00.913 --> 03:20.364\n考試院這個地方部長我來提供你參考部長你也來思考看看你像這一次我們這個國家隊出去就李玉敏這個他那個刺青那個紋身我剛很多人就跟他講說8加9我看了實在是我就有點莫名其妙這個都是老一輩的人\n\n03:21.465 --> 03:26.107\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管\n\n03:50.180 --> 03:52.402\n收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n04:36.892 --> 04:49.884\n目前的考試規則是可以,也就是跟委員報告其實並沒有說刺青就不能但是他必須經過他現在問題是他經過醫師檢查然後去確定他們有不亞意涵或者有斑派等的意涵目前實務上就是有在經過醫師來做一個判斷\n\n04:58.052 --> 05:24.478\n其實老實說內政部來講的話他們是覺得說由醫師判斷在實務上現在的確是有遇到比較麻煩的地方所以才建議刪除但是我覺得這件事情還是要回到因為這個是屬於社會爭議比較大的事項所以我們目前是把它跟升高的兩個把它拆開處理那那個刺青這個爭議比較大的事項我們希望還是必須要等到還是一樣等到我們院會有充分的討論以後再來進行處理\n\n05:26.218 --> 05:42.250\n本來那個規則裡面第10個我都認為這樣的一個負面的一個放在那個地方把它明示出來本身對刺青跟紋身就有很大的一個負面上的給人家賦予這樣的一個標籤化的意涵\n\n05:43.547 --> 05:44.948\n議長,這不像你了,這個什麼大家可以來討論,這個很明顯就不合時宜啊。\n\n06:09.428 --> 06:10.449\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n06:29.502 --> 06:53.488\n但是您剛剛舉這個很好的例子我們很多運動選手身上不管是面積大面積小其實有很多都是有刺青但如果他能夠考得上他適不適合當我想大概沒有人會挑戰所以我覺得這件事在社會這樣的互相辯證當中可能以後可以理出一個結論或者一個比較合理的做法我每次看到你看我特別昨天我在質詢我特別去看一個埃及的影片人家那個文淳\n\n06:54.713 --> 06:57.256\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n07:20.786 --> 07:28.278\n根委員報告,剛剛說的那一個委員局的例子很好,它在我們現在就屬於原住民寄傳統遺書,那是可以的。\n\n07:28.666 --> 07:54.294\n當然剛剛還有一些文化藝術,所以我還是比較希望我們在這再做充分的討論,也許有一些正面表列可以表達再更多。另外,我針對於國家考試的一個公平性跟多元性的問題,我想請教部長就是說,假設我是考官,我要出一個題目來讓你闡述一下生命中的好奇心,我不曉得你會怎麼樣來回應我?\n\n07:55.994 --> 07:56.935\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n08:14.298 --> 08:42.031\n第一個想法如果是考生我想說AI可能在我公務上會有多大的一個方便如何來促進整個我整個處理整個這個面對這些公務的時候讓他更簡便或者說讓他有更精進的地方結果到最後討出來的題目是生命中的好奇心我就覺得這個很怪那個題目如果是說AI人工智慧是可以取代人力嗎或者說AI人工智慧對於公務體系有什麼弊端跟益處嗎\n\n08:43.351 --> 09:10.072\n這可能就沒有那麼八股啊順應時事是好事啊但是我看啊這個我們整個在考題喔最主要是你要去測試出這個人適不適合來當公務人員啊我看那個題目喔那怕死人我看完之後我才知道說你去看喔比如國文考題啊本時在帶民務長跟部長來看今年啊高考課題的一個國文考題中其中的一題啊他說喔有方位一詞在使用上啊\n\n09:11.178 --> 09:19.462\n有時賦予文化上的意涵,下列選項何者在方位之外具有其他的意涵?A.\n\n09:19.462 --> 09:23.684\n駙馬依北風,月鳥潮南枝。B.\n\n09:23.684 --> 09:28.366\n孤符號外爺,翔鳥鳴北鄰。3.\n\n09:28.366 --> 09:31.107\n士主難免事業公餐。阿你又答案你對一下。阿不然A是什麼意思?A為什麼不行?\n\n09:38.114 --> 09:40.015\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分\n\n10:02.971 --> 10:18.486\n我認為啦我認為啦我看到這個題目以後然後你看辦公室同仁要自證退休禮物給長官不適合使用哪一個題詞?絕功其為、薰月永垂、形宜可思你們答案是C這個不行這人死掉了嘛齁永懷得風欸我在參加公祭的時候我也常常看到永懷得風啊那D也不行啊\n\n10:28.049 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