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00:02:31,282\n桃武交流道的設計規劃至機場的連外道,那部長、局長沒有錯吧?是,是沒有錯。是桃武交流道的部分。那目前占地高架會經過航翔路、碧新碧道路連接現有的航勤南路,將原本通往台四線的道路廢除。那這邊要請問部長還有局長,目前的規劃是這樣子嗎?\n\n9\n00:02:32,799 --> 00:02:33,400\n國醫甲必須找空間\n\n10\n00:02:48,431 --> 00:02:48,852\n附屬單位預算案附屬單\n\n11\n00:03:08,711 --> 00:03:20,045\n現有的道路的話他在那個交接的地方我們需要說那個交尾的部分單純化是不是要再匯儲或是要保留的話那這個我們還要再看看是後面的可以改為專用出口嗎\n\n12\n00:03:22,212 --> 00:03:49,676\n這個要看那個淘機那邊後面的一個處理啦那基本上來講我們是說以現在既有的國一甲的閘道為優先因為未來的大量車流一定是走那個閘道那至於說橋下的空間我們也會佈設他的檢接國師台四線的一個閘道那個地方道路也會佈設是,如果我們將現有道路改為專用出口的話這樣可以讓那個機場他的道路增加也可以紓解國一甲他的閘道車流量那部長您的看法是?\n\n13\n00:03:50,556 --> 00:04:12,040\n報告委員這個部分我們有桃集公司跟公路局還有高工局還有就是說桃園市政府就是地方政府比較了解地方的交通的狀況大家一起來會商那如果會商之後覺得這樣子的建議會是比較好的方式那或許就會採用這樣的建議但是目前我這樣聽起來應該是桃集公司跟高工局他們希望路線相對單純一些路線相對單純一些\n\n14\n00:04:15,341 --> 00:04:41,418\n今天早上也有詢問桃園市政府他們說這個設計和規劃都是在交通部然後是由高工局那也在請高工局這邊和桃園市政府還有桃機公司進行討論看是不是不要將這個將這個道路廢除啊好啊可以我們是不是就是大家各單位大家再會議一下是是我們在開閣會再做一次檢討對我們把內容再檢討一次看怎麼樣對地方的交通最有幫助的我們就選擇那樣的方案\n\n15\n00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:37,827\n那部長您這邊看到看到什麼樣的問題?是就是行人過路的過程當中如果太慢的話其實對於旁邊的車子的運行也大概會有一些問題。是那駕駛有表示齁如果不禮讓行人的話要被罰六千如果禮讓然後闖紅燈的話會罰兩千七啊。部長如果您是駕駛的話您會怎麼辦?遇到這樣的狀況那會有該有什麼樣的權利救濟?\n\n16\n00:05:38,775 --> 00:05:52,690\n我還是會等行人啦我還是會停等行人啦我覺得現在我們人本交通很重要那也以行人為優先還是以行人為優先如果是我自己我會選擇先停等但是如果假使這樣的駕駛\n\n17\n00:05:53,851 --> 00:06:11,437\n他要面對6000或者是2700的這個罰則的這個問題的時候我想我們是不是也應該要稍微檢討一下就是說如果他在等行人的過程當中所以造成了他有這個有可能闖紅燈的這個罰則的話那這個部分可能我們要檢討OK那我們接著看第二部影片\n\n18\n00:06:43,846 --> 00:07:06,797\n請問部長在我們可以看到行人和騎士斑馬線上是可以等計程車的嗎?您認為騎士的做法對嗎?騎士的作為在那個地方繼續等行人這個做法是正確但是斑馬線上不應該作為在等計程車的一個地方斑馬線就是行人穿越道就應該要走過去\n\n19\n00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:21,856\n那當然速度也要加快在可以的範圍之內自己速度要加快因為你越快速通過其實對自己的安全越有保障那我們目前現在有沒有相關的法律可以對這三位民眾做進行約束他們的行為進行約束我是不是請師長\n\n20\n00:07:23,455 --> 00:07:25,336\n根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?\n\n21\n00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,481\n關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算\n\n22\n00:08:47,321 --> 00:08:50,405\n部長、市長,我們面對這樣的行人,你們兩位會怎麼做?\n\n23\n00:08:57,073 --> 00:08:57,873\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位\n\n24\n00:09:18,226 --> 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這個部分我們有桃集公司跟公路局還有高工局還有就是說桃園市政府就是地方政府比較了解地方的交通的狀況大家一起來會商那如果會商之後覺得這樣子的建議會是比較好的方式那或許就會採用這樣的建議但是目前我這樣聽起來應該是桃集公司跟高工局他們希望路線相對單純一些路線相對單純一些\n255341\t281418\t今天早上也有詢問桃園市政府他們說這個設計和規劃都是在交通部然後是由高工局那也在請高工局這邊和桃園市政府還有桃機公司進行討論看是不是不要將這個將這個道路廢除啊好啊可以我們是不是就是大家各單位大家再會議一下是是我們在開閣會再做一次檢討對我們把內容再檢討一次看怎麼樣對地方的交通最有幫助的我們就選擇那樣的方案\n281732\t299053\t議員議員議員\n313639\t337827\t那部長您這邊看到看到什麼樣的問題?是就是行人過路的過程當中如果太慢的話其實對於旁邊的車子的運行也大概會有一些問題。是那駕駛有表示齁如果不禮讓行人的話要被罰六千如果禮讓然後闖紅燈的話會罰兩千七啊。部長如果您是駕駛的話您會怎麼辦?遇到這樣的狀況那會有該有什麼樣的權利救濟?\n338775\t352690\t我還是會等行人啦我還是會停等行人啦我覺得現在我們人本交通很重要那也以行人為優先還是以行人為優先如果是我自己我會選擇先停等但是如果假使這樣的駕駛\n353851\t371437\t他要面對6000或者是2700的這個罰則的這個問題的時候我想我們是不是也應該要稍微檢討一下就是說如果他在等行人的過程當中所以造成了他有這個有可能闖紅燈的這個罰則的話那這個部分可能我們要檢討OK那我們接著看第二部影片\n403846\t426797\t請問部長在我們可以看到行人和騎士斑馬線上是可以等計程車的嗎?您認為騎士的做法對嗎?騎士的作為在那個地方繼續等行人這個做法是正確但是斑馬線上不應該作為在等計程車的一個地方斑馬線就是行人穿越道就應該要走過去\n427677\t441856\t那當然速度也要加快在可以的範圍之內自己速度要加快因為你越快速通過其實對自己的安全越有保障那我們目前現在有沒有相關的法律可以對這三位民眾做進行約束他們的行為進行約束我是不是請師長\n443455\t445336\t根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?\n469480\t471481\t關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算\n527321\t530405\t部長、市長,我們面對這樣的行人,你們兩位會怎麼做?\n537073\t537873\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位\n558226\t585071\t巴馬縣上面遛烏龜巴馬縣上面等計程車巴馬縣上面的逗留者目前的罰款只有500元那這個500元能夠減少類似的行為嗎那本席今天沒有邀部長還有市長我們就是直接的做回答那今天請部長思考這樣的問題是這個部分確實是要檢討就是說行人在過馬路的過程當中還是要專心還是要快速那這個除了教育面之外其他的部分我們也來做檢討OK好謝謝部長謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席主席我們先請交通部陳部長請陳部長\n部長好 委員好今天有看到交通部114年度的施政計畫那其中有提到縫合交通段列還有提供無縫連結運輸服務建構北中南都會區捷運路網那本席要再次的請部長寫出一件事那本席\n當任立委以來非常重視我們地方的交通建設那過去不管是在交通委員會還是在院會有多次針對三一線延伸巴的案進行諮詢那從今年的9月20日交通部呈報行政院後至今68天了\n完全沒有任何消息本席這段時間也有問行政院只得到陳和中的答覆本席想再次的請部長提醒院長我們盡快來將本案核定以利後續的作業我們會跟行政院這邊來溝通看可不可以速度再加快因為我們交通部這邊的意見都已經完整了都沒有問題也送到了行政院國發會那邊也應該意見也都已經整合了這個部分我們就請院那邊我們再加速\n期待部長的好消息主席我們有接著請我們高工局趙局長還有陶基的范總經理\n局長還有總經理本席在上週三有詢問陶吉未來周邊的聯外道路是否有連結第三的聯外道路還有相關議題陶吉當時有回覆本席有規劃國一甲作為聯外道路今天我們就國一甲的設計還有規劃部分這邊要就教部長還有局長\n國一甲主要是航空城計劃興建道路之一。它的目的是為了要紓解航空城港區還有淘機的客貨運並且改善台四線南侃交通擁捨的問題。我們看到這個計劃還有這個規劃。就本席了解目前規劃中\n桃武交流道的設計規劃至機場的連外道,那部長、局長沒有錯吧?是,是沒有錯。是桃武交流道的部分。那目前占地高架會經過航翔路、碧新碧道路連接現有的航勤南路,將原本通往台四線的道路廢除。那這邊要請問部長還有局長,目前的規劃是這樣子嗎?\n國醫甲必須找空間\n附屬單位預算案附屬單\n現有的道路的話他在那個交接的地方我們需要說那個交尾的部分單純化是不是要再匯儲或是要保留的話那這個我們還要再看看是後面的可以改為專用出口嗎\n這個要看那個淘機那邊後面的一個處理啦那基本上來講我們是說以現在既有的國一甲的閘道為優先因為未來的大量車流一定是走那個閘道那至於說橋下的空間我們也會佈設他的檢接國師台四線的一個閘道那個地方道路也會佈設是,如果我們將現有道路改為專用出口的話這樣可以讓那個機場他的道路增加也可以紓解國一甲他的閘道車流量那部長您的看法是?\n報告委員 這個部分我們有桃集公司跟公路局還有高工局還有就是說桃園市政府就是地方政府比較了解地方的交通的狀況大家一起來會商那如果會商之後覺得這樣子的建議會是比較好的方式那或許就會採用這樣的建議但是目前我這樣聽起來應該是桃集公司跟高工局他們希望路線相對單純一些路線相對單純一些\n今天早上也有詢問桃園市政府他們說這個設計和規劃都是在交通部然後是由高工局那也在請高工局這邊和桃園市政府還有桃機公司進行討論看是不是不要將這個將這個道路廢除啊好啊可以我們是不是就是大家各單位大家再會議一下是是我們在開閣會再做一次檢討對我們把內容再檢討一次看怎麼樣對地方的交通最有幫助的我們就選擇那樣的方案\n議員議員議員\n那部長您這邊看到看到什麼樣的問題?是就是行人過路的過程當中如果太慢的話其實對於旁邊的車子的運行也大概會有一些問題。是那駕駛有表示齁如果不禮讓行人的話要被罰六千如果禮讓然後闖紅燈的話會罰兩千七啊。部長如果您是駕駛的話您會怎麼辦?遇到這樣的狀況那會有該有什麼樣的權利救濟?\n我還是會等行人啦我還是會停等行人啦我覺得現在我們人本交通很重要那也以行人為優先還是以行人為優先如果是我自己我會選擇先停等但是如果假使這樣的駕駛\n他要面對6000或者是2700的這個罰則的這個問題的時候我想我們是不是也應該要稍微檢討一下就是說如果他在等行人的過程當中所以造成了他有這個有可能闖紅燈的這個罰則的話那這個部分可能我們要檢討OK那我們接著看第二部影片\n請問部長在我們可以看到行人和騎士斑馬線上是可以等計程車的嗎?您認為騎士的做法對嗎?騎士的作為在那個地方繼續等行人這個做法是正確但是斑馬線上不應該作為在等計程車的一個地方斑馬線就是行人穿越道就應該要走過去\n那當然速度也要加快在可以的範圍之內自己速度要加快因為你越快速通過其實對自己的安全越有保障那我們目前現在有沒有相關的法律可以對這三位民眾做進行約束他們的行為進行約束我是不是請師長\n根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?\n關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算\n部長、市長,我們面對這樣的行人,你們兩位會怎麼做?\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位\n巴馬縣上面遛烏龜巴馬縣上面等計程車巴馬縣上面的逗留者目前的罰款只有500元那這個500元能夠減少類似的行為嗎那本席今天沒有邀部長還有市長我們就是直接的做回答那今天請部長思考這樣的問題是這個部分確實是要檢討就是說行人在過馬路的過程當中還是要專心還是要快速那這個除了教育面之外其他的部分我們也來做檢討OK好謝謝部長謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.693 --> 00:02.724\n謝謝主席主席我們先請交通部陳部長請陳部長\n\n00:12.267 --> 00:29.921\n部長好委員好今天有看到交通部114年度的施政計畫那其中有提到縫合交通段列還有提供無縫連結運輸服務建構北中南都會區捷運路網那本席要再次的請部長寫出一件事那本席\n\n00:30.982 --> 00:46.297\n當任立委以來非常重視我們地方的交通建設那過去不管是在交通委員會還是在院會有多次針對三一線延伸巴的案進行諮詢那從今年的9月20日交通部呈報行政院後至今68天了\n\n00:48.278 --> 01:17.394\n完全沒有任何消息本席這段時間也有問行政院只得到陳和中的答覆本席想再次的請部長提醒院長我們盡快來將本案核定以利後續的作業我們會跟行政院這邊來溝通看可不可以速度再加快因為我們交通部這邊的意見都已經完整了都沒有問題也送到了行政院國發會那邊也應該意見也都已經整合了這個部分我們就請院那邊我們再加速\n\n01:18.155 --> 01:26.408\n期待部長的好消息主席我們有接著請我們高工局趙局長還有陶基的范總經理\n\n01:34.418 --> 01:54.531\n局長還有總經理本席在上週三有詢問陶吉未來周邊的聯外道路是否有連結第三的聯外道路還有相關議題陶吉當時有回覆本席有規劃國一甲作為聯外道路今天我們就國一甲的設計還有規劃部分這邊要就教部長還有局長\n\n01:55.612 --> 02:07.345\n國一甲主要是航空城計劃興建道路之一。它的目的是為了要紓解航空城港區還有淘機的客貨運並且改善台四線南侃交通擁捨的問題。我們看到這個計劃還有這個規劃。就本席了解目前規劃中\n\n02:12.751 --> 02:31.282\n桃武交流道的設計規劃至機場的連外道,那部長、局長沒有錯吧?是,是沒有錯。是桃武交流道的部分。那目前占地高架會經過航翔路、碧新碧道路連接現有的航勤南路,將原本通往台四線的道路廢除。那這邊要請問部長還有局長,目前的規劃是這樣子嗎?\n\n02:32.799 --> 02:33.400\n國醫甲必須找空間\n\n02:48.431 --> 02:48.852\n附屬單位預算案附屬單\n\n03:08.711 --> 03:20.045\n現有的道路的話他在那個交接的地方我們需要說那個交尾的部分單純化是不是要再匯儲或是要保留的話那這個我們還要再看看是後面的可以改為專用出口嗎\n\n03:22.212 --> 03:49.676\n這個要看那個淘機那邊後面的一個處理啦那基本上來講我們是說以現在既有的國一甲的閘道為優先因為未來的大量車流一定是走那個閘道那至於說橋下的空間我們也會佈設他的檢接國師台四線的一個閘道那個地方道路也會佈設是,如果我們將現有道路改為專用出口的話這樣可以讓那個機場他的道路增加也可以紓解國一甲他的閘道車流量那部長您的看法是?\n\n03:50.556 --> 04:12.040\n報告委員這個部分我們有桃集公司跟公路局還有高工局還有就是說桃園市政府就是地方政府比較了解地方的交通的狀況大家一起來會商那如果會商之後覺得這樣子的建議會是比較好的方式那或許就會採用這樣的建議但是目前我這樣聽起來應該是桃集公司跟高工局他們希望路線相對單純一些路線相對單純一些\n\n04:15.341 --> 04:41.418\n今天早上也有詢問桃園市政府他們說這個設計和規劃都是在交通部然後是由高工局那也在請高工局這邊和桃園市政府還有桃機公司進行討論看是不是不要將這個將這個道路廢除啊好啊可以我們是不是就是大家各單位大家再會議一下是是我們在開閣會再做一次檢討對我們把內容再檢討一次看怎麼樣對地方的交通最有幫助的我們就選擇那樣的方案\n\n05:13.639 --> 05:37.827\n那部長您這邊看到看到什麼樣的問題?是就是行人過路的過程當中如果太慢的話其實對於旁邊的車子的運行也大概會有一些問題。是那駕駛有表示齁如果不禮讓行人的話要被罰六千如果禮讓然後闖紅燈的話會罰兩千七啊。部長如果您是駕駛的話您會怎麼辦?遇到這樣的狀況那會有該有什麼樣的權利救濟?\n\n05:38.775 --> 05:52.690\n我還是會等行人啦我還是會停等行人啦我覺得現在我們人本交通很重要那也以行人為優先還是以行人為優先如果是我自己我會選擇先停等但是如果假使這樣的駕駛\n\n05:53.851 --> 06:11.437\n他要面對6000或者是2700的這個罰則的這個問題的時候我想我們是不是也應該要稍微檢討一下就是說如果他在等行人的過程當中所以造成了他有這個有可能闖紅燈的這個罰則的話那這個部分可能我們要檢討OK那我們接著看第二部影片\n\n06:43.846 --> 07:06.797\n請問部長在我們可以看到行人和騎士斑馬線上是可以等計程車的嗎?您認為騎士的做法對嗎?騎士的作為在那個地方繼續等行人這個做法是正確但是斑馬線上不應該作為在等計程車的一個地方斑馬線就是行人穿越道就應該要走過去\n\n07:07.677 --> 07:21.856\n那當然速度也要加快在可以的範圍之內自己速度要加快因為你越快速通過其實對自己的安全越有保障那我們目前現在有沒有相關的法律可以對這三位民眾做進行約束他們的行為進行約束我是不是請師長\n\n07:23.455 --> 07:25.336\n根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?根據這個影片他們要怎麼被開罰呢?\n\n07:49.480 --> 07:51.481\n關於交通部公路局及所屬單位預算\n\n08:47.321 --> 08:50.405\n部長、市長,我們面對這樣的行人,你們兩位會怎麼做?\n\n08:57.073 --> 08:57.873\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位\n\n09:18.226 --> 09:45.071\n巴馬縣上面遛烏龜巴馬縣上面等計程車巴馬縣上面的逗留者目前的罰款只有500元那這個500元能夠減少類似的行為嗎那本席今天沒有邀部長還有市長我們就是直接的做回答那今天請部長思考這樣的問題是這個部分確實是要檢討就是說行人在過馬路的過程當中還是要專心還是要快速那這個除了教育面之外其他的部分我們也來做檢討OK好謝謝部長謝謝委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.693,"end":2.724,"text":"謝謝主席主席我們先請交通部陳部長請陳部長"},{"start":12.267,"end":29.921,"text":"部長好 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案關於交通部單位預算；二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關\n於交通部中央氣象署單位預算；三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部公路局及所屬單\n位預算；四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業\n基金─國道公路建設管理基金分預算（僅進行詢答）","agenda_id":"11310501_00013"}}}