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km.\n322483\t345572\t獎項獎項獎\n346072\t374213\t這樣子延老農稀施作可以減少徵收可以遠離傷悶地滑然後呢你們採取的工法呢是採深基礎用築銷的工法加大橋樑的垮具好那種種這些大家都覺得可行性很高然後呢也要做了已經凍土了所以我想要問就是如果我們講的那5K路段有沒有可能比照這樣的一個態度工法有沒有可能\n378354\t391067\t目前已經通車了沿著河床的便道在做只是因為老榮溪現在的河川調查還是不穩定目前的計畫是中期提升計畫中期提升計畫包括\n397634\t398995\t公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單\n423590\t431096\t我們經常走都很了解那麼長的好幾K竟然我們的路面跟河床都騎高了\n432455\t459924\t那如果說我們不去提升提高或者做這種高價道路我不曉得未來的10年20年我們到底要砸多少錢重點是一直在修復永遠在修復居民永遠都是交通不便這不是我們樂見的那個地方也不要去想遷村也沒有地方可以遷村大家也不會願意遷村所以我覺得怎麼樣去做一個永續\n461124\t484663\t安全的道路就像沿著老龍溪做這件事我們多麼羨慕多麼渴望我希望把這件事情把它放在心裡那我覺得跟居民的溝通讓大家看見我們的想法我們沒有忘記在地居民的想法但是我們要讓大家知道我們要怎麼規劃怎麼做然後達成符合他們需求這樣可以嗎\n486510\t487010\t市長提到是有一個中期的規劃\n504156\t530963\t那中期的規劃裡頭一定會考量到這個民意大家的需求所以看你這張圖的這個最後是下去的到達巴士努安橋據我的了解他到時候會跨過會往前延伸所以整整的也就是你剛剛講高價的一個想法會在這裡頭做實現對一定要永久性的橋樑高價的橋樑對只是你講一下永久性的橋樑可能還要再考量沒有什麼不可能你看我們提出的25年前的想法\n531343\t557379\t不就實現了嗎?但是我跟委員報告一個中期安全的橋樑我們一定會達到,我們一定會做到。好,那謝謝次長您上次幫我就是親自主持露營場的第4次會議那有幾項決議,刪除土石流潛水區類型剩餘90%的土地供無痕露營使用,原保地適用原住民圖管規則還有呢,我們露營場合法化,你們把預算\n558300\t567206\t本來是拿來輔導竟然上面有說要補助地方政府的違法稽查作業費。我想當年我們爭取那筆經費是輔導。那像這一些我希望趕快修訂趕快頒布。可以嗎?可以,我們會督促公共學習作業。好,公文趕快發。是是是。好,謝謝市長,謝謝局長,謝謝主席。\n","txt":"議員議員議員議員\n委員好好次長好局長好11月24前幾天我有一同參與新威大橋到離港交流道的動土典禮工程那為什麼我要去因為就如同卓院長那天說的他說這一條除了是救命的道路也是產業發展之路\n對平東大三地門地區對高雄的茂林區對桃園區其實這一條路很重要因為它除了救災防災也有救護的功能也有農產品運輸的功能更有觀光的一個功能所以呢對我們來講\n除了能夠減少到市區或者是新左營高鐵站的一個距離時間大概是可以減少半小時左右所以這是對我們來講是很令人振奮的一件事情但是呢我今天來也要跟各位透露一個訊息可能是你們不知道的訊息他請我一定要來表達當年\n2001年茂林鄉的鄉長張振信他在茂林的鄉刊他特別已經有把這樣的事情在23年前就已經透露出來當時他希望南二高的旗山支線能夠沿著老農溪一直開到當時成立的茂林風景區\nadequate to the requirement of the bill.\n這一個工程我們看到要分兩期但是它的總長是18公里總經費當時是匡147.9億但是因為缺工原物料上漲現在是把它編列到202億預計在2030年完工那在這個當中我要講另外一件事因為還記得嗎2021年的時候\n也不是颱風只不過是西南氣流的影響連日的暴雨結果造成明巴克路橋的一個災害當時呢這幾年有很多的民代包括當天桃園區的一個議員叫高中的議員他也非常關心他親自前往因為這幾年不論是都市委區長或者高清源主席地方所有的民代\n他們都主張是不是可以從明巴克路橋的那個地區施作高架的道路到復興部落建立一個穩固長期不會因為下雨颱風就被阻斷的道路所以呢我想要請大家就是看一下齁\nbicyclist 審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n那麼像這樣的一條道路我就是想問光是從103年到113年這十年間這個情何到復興路段請教一下大概花了多少錢\n因為他大概就是有一些是災害搶修的費用然後目前就是說我們還有就是要做中期的這個提升所以他有大概有好幾塊那災害搶修的部分這幾年其實大概就是我們這個有一些變道或者是像這一個跨預稅溪的這個明霸克路橋\n大概就是說這個每一次大概都是有把它修完,大概10億左右,不過目前其實我們現在已經有一個中期的一個跨預稅期的這個民放科學獎提升的一個計畫,變道也有一個提升的計畫。謝謝局長,因為這個路段大概是5公里,\nadequate to the total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\nThe total length of 18 km.\n獎項獎項獎\n這樣子延老農稀施作可以減少徵收可以遠離傷悶地滑然後呢你們採取的工法呢是採深基礎用築銷的工法加大橋樑的垮具好那種種這些大家都覺得可行性很高然後呢也要做了已經凍土了所以我想要問就是如果我們講的那5K路段有沒有可能比照這樣的一個態度工法有沒有可能\n目前已經通車了沿著河床的便道在做只是因為老榮溪現在的河川調查還是不穩定目前的計畫是中期提升計畫中期提升計畫包括\n公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單公路局及所屬單\n我們經常走都很了解那麼長的好幾K竟然我們的路面跟河床都騎高了\n那如果說我們不去提升提高或者做這種高價道路我不曉得未來的10年20年我們到底要砸多少錢重點是一直在修復永遠在修復居民永遠都是交通不便這不是我們樂見的那個地方也不要去想遷村也沒有地方可以遷村大家也不會願意遷村所以我覺得怎麼樣去做一個永續\n安全的道路就像沿著老龍溪做這件事我們多麼羨慕多麼渴望我希望把這件事情把它放在心裡那我覺得跟居民的溝通讓大家看見我們的想法我們沒有忘記在地居民的想法但是我們要讓大家知道我們要怎麼規劃怎麼做然後達成符合他們需求這樣可以嗎\n市長提到是有一個中期的規劃\n那中期的規劃裡頭一定會考量到這個民意大家的需求所以看你這張圖的這個最後是下去的到達巴士努安橋據我的了解他到時候會跨過會往前延伸所以整整的也就是你剛剛講高價的一個想法會在這裡頭做實現對一定要永久性的橋樑高價的橋樑對只是你講一下永久性的橋樑可能還要再考量沒有什麼不可能你看我們提出的25年前的想法\n不就實現了嗎?但是我跟委員報告一個中期安全的橋樑我們一定會達到,我們一定會做到。好,那謝謝次長您上次幫我就是親自主持露營場的第4次會議那有幾項決議,刪除土石流潛水區類型剩餘90%的土地供無痕露營使用,原保地適用原住民圖管規則還有呢,我們露營場合法化,你們把預算\n本來是拿來輔導竟然上面有說要補助地方政府的違法稽查作業費。我想當年我們爭取那筆經費是輔導。那像這一些我希望趕快修訂趕快頒布。可以嗎?可以,我們會督促公共學習作業。好,公文趕快發。是是是。好,謝謝市長,謝謝局長,謝謝主席。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:15.610 --> 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