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00:01:49,697\n所以不只是罰100萬,對不對?現在我們看到媒體講說是罰100萬,那除了罰100萬以外還有相關的獎懲,是不是?就是行政在履約上面的一個平和的部分,這個都會納入記錄。好,可是拉回來啊?\n\n5\n00:01:50,498 --> 00:02:18,228\n道基要檢討彩萌要檢討但更重要的是為什麼這管制區有那麼多人啊我不知道次長你有沒有看到那一天的畫面我第一時間本席看到的時候那個媒體出來的畫面我以為那是管制區外結果管制區外大家講說反而大家遵守都還不錯管制區內反而亂糟糟然後甚至很多人都進去然後會讓大家網友就講說好像現在只有我沒有管制證了那管制證到底發多少張\n\n6\n00:02:19,707 --> 00:02:29,498\n只會發到那一些進去裡面的人全都是有管制證嗎?還是有沒有那一天趁亂就是一個人帶一個進去?不會嘛。但管制證是不是太泛濫了?你說那個連彩蒙的經營團隊大家都有,他明顯他不是在裡面工作的人嘛,是不是?\n\n7\n00:02:42,009 --> 00:03:01,567\n報告委員我想當天在管制區內人會比較多是因為有來的單位有拿管制證全都進去了有來的單位比較多那有一些像比如說以我們機場公司本身我們當然有工作證那像免稅店的這些的工作同仁也有工作證\n\n8\n00:03:02,168 --> 00:03:29,406\n對,所以我現在講的就是說管制區內其實亂是讓國人沒有辦法接受的因為照理講管制區內既然是管制區代表說它出入就已經有管制了你如果說今天反而是管制區外沒有問題因為大家拉紅龍大家都依照遵守而且媒體也是井然有序那反而管制區內是沒有任何的規範那甚至有人講說蕭副總統接機什麼時候決定\n\n9\n00:03:33,925 --> 00:04:02,437\n校副總統接機什麼時候決定?這個部分因為我們機場這邊我們是配合做相關的...對那什麼時候才告知不管是國安單位或是總統府什麼時候告知陶基說校副總統要來接機?這個可能我們要...不是啊你是總經理你不知道因為我知道副總統會來接機但是我原則就是說哪一天...好那有沒有找陶基開過會?如果照你講你連他什麼時候來你都不知道所以他有沒有找陶基開過會?\n\n10\n00:04:04,538 --> 00:04:20,295\n動線要怎麼走也不知道我們相關的接機甚至是送機這些流程在機場我們有過去已經有一些模式存在當然有模式但是今年不不不總經理這個我你的回答我沒有辦法接受喔因為這一次大家會看到這個亂象\n\n11\n00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:37,909\n第一當然是這個彩蒙他們有狀況但第二蕭副總統他是元首級規格整個國安團隊進入到管制區我說實在話淘機的同仁有辦法去管國安單位嗎很難嘛\n\n12\n00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:42,411\nadequatetothecurrentsituation.\n\n13\n00:05:01,540 --> 00:05:26,401\n所以就代表是說是不是蕭副總統他決定接機的時間也比較晚然後也沒有找淘擠開會所以變成是說當天的狀況國安單位也應該要負起相關責任包委員不是這樣因為所有高級長官來機場的相關活動一定會有國安特勤甚至行警等各單位我們跟機場公司這邊我們會來共同就他的一個場地的動線跟佈置\n\n14\n00:05:27,802 --> 00:05:40,745\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審\n\n15\n00:05:48,747 --> 00:06:07,072\n那事實上我想我必須承認就是說我們對於整個國人對於這整件事情的熱情真的是超過我們的想像當天來歡迎的人數不管是在管制區內或外其實都是有史以來的紀錄所以市長\n\n16\n00:06:08,383 --> 00:06:29,081\n該不該檢討就針對這個部分如果說連剛剛總經理講的就是說管制區內的人就變是只要我有工作證工作證的核發其實是為了工作使用才能進管制區嘛可是當天是只要有工作證的人我就想要去看中華英雄我就拿工作證進去所以才發生說所有管制區工作證的人全都進來\n\n17\n00:06:31,143 --> 00:06:51,365\n因為你剛講了就是你超乎你的想像所以未來針對重要的貴賓或者是我們相關的球員或者是我們的好手回來因為我相信之後WBC2026年我們中華隊也可以再創佳績那到時候不要又出現一樣的亂象\n\n18\n00:06:54,169 --> 00:07:15,801\n委員今天早上一直以來部長都有則由這個淘機公司要去檢討其實他的檢討就包含這個如果是以街機的話街機整體的規劃跟最後的落實度管制的落實度我想這個是包在一起的但是現在兩個部分一個是規劃有沒有規劃確實一個是落實淘機有沒有能力落實\n\n19\n00:07:17,168 --> 00:07:39,414\n所以這一部分呢都是需要待後續的他的檢討裡頭。什麼時候檢討報告會出來?主委去討論。包委員剛才前面何委員何新淳委員已經我們有答應是三天要提出檢討報告。好也請給本席及給我們交通委員會委員一份。那另外中華郵政的部分抱歉喔趙委再給我一分鐘啦齁。\n\n20\n00:07:40,054 --> 00:08:06,222\n中華郵政那個有講說12強這一次部長也已經講說會發行我們中華英雄的紀念郵票對不對非常好馬上就反映那請教現在規劃怎麼樣現在就是說我們在預計在12月底就今年年底的時候先發行一套個人化郵票那明年個人化對個人化不是郵票那但是那個紀念郵票要在明年的1月底因為這個要經過授權然後還要印刷等等\n\n21\n00:08:06,482 --> 00:08:22,016\n但是就是會把我們中華英雄在這一次12強的這個榮耀給凸顯出來。對對對。對不對。好。預計會發行幾套?發行一套四張。一套四張。對對對。是12月底會出來?不是一月底。\n\n22\n00:08:22,056 --> 00:08:25,519\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n23\n00:08:49,021 --> 00:09:05,411\n市長請我們總經理這邊好好的規劃啦本席只是說因為有很多人的一個期待也希望都是能夠看到我們中華英雄所以特別現在郵票雖然說沒有那麼多人使用但是我們希望既然已經有規劃就好好規劃也一定是要彰顯我們這個臺灣球員的這個光榮\n\n24\n00:09:10,094 --> 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那什麼時候才告知不管是國安單位或是總統府什麼時候告知陶基說校副總統要來接機?這個可能我們要...不是啊 你是總經理你不知道因為我知道副總統會來接機但是我原則就是說哪一天...好 那有沒有找陶基開過會?如果照你講你連他什麼時候來你都不知道所以他有沒有找陶基開過會?\n動線要怎麼走也不知道我們相關的接機甚至是送機這些流程在機場我們有過去已經有一些模式存在當然有模式但是今年不不不總經理這個我你的回答我沒有辦法接受喔因為這一次大家會看到這個亂象\n第一當然是這個彩蒙他們有狀況但第二蕭副總統他是元首級規格整個國安團隊進入到管制區我說實在話淘機的同仁有辦法去管國安單位嗎很難嘛\nadequate to the current situation.\n所以就代表是說是不是蕭副總統他決定接機的時間也比較晚然後也沒有找淘擠開會所以變成是說當天的狀況國安單位也應該要負起相關責任包委員不是這樣因為所有高級長官來機場的相關活動一定會有國安特勤甚至行警等各單位我們跟機場公司這邊我們會來共同就他的一個場地的動線跟佈置\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審\n那事實上我想我必須承認就是說我們對於整個國人對於這整件事情的熱情真的是超過我們的想像當天來歡迎的人數不管是在管制區內或外其實都是有史以來的紀錄所以市長\n該不該檢討就針對這個部分如果說連剛剛總經理講的就是說管制區內的人就變是只要我有工作證工作證的核發其實是為了工作使用才能進管制區嘛可是當天是只要有工作證的人我就想要去看中華英雄我就拿工作證進去所以才發生說所有管制區工作證的人全都進來\n因為你剛講了就是你超乎你的想像所以未來針對重要的貴賓或者是我們相關的球員或者是我們的好手回來因為我相信之後WBC2026年我們中華隊也可以再創佳績那到時候不要又出現一樣的亂象\n委員今天早上一直以來部長都有則由這個淘機公司要去檢討其實他的檢討就包含這個如果是以街機的話街機整體的規劃跟最後的落實度管制的落實度我想這個是包在一起的但是現在兩個部分一個是規劃有沒有規劃確實一個是落實淘機有沒有能力落實\n所以這一部分呢都是需要待後續的他的檢討裡頭。什麼時候檢討報告會出來?主委去討論。包委員剛才前面何委員何新淳委員已經我們有答應是三天要提出檢討報告。好也請給本席及給我們交通委員會委員一份。那另外中華郵政的部分抱歉喔趙委再給我一分鐘啦齁。\n中華郵政那個有講說12強這一次部長也已經講說會發行我們中華英雄的紀念郵票對不對非常好馬上就反映那請教現在規劃怎麼樣現在就是說我們在預計在12月底就今年年底的時候先發行一套個人化郵票那明年個人化對個人化不是郵票那但是那個紀念郵票要在明年的1月底因為這個要經過授權然後還要印刷等等\n但是就是會把我們中華英雄在這一次12強的這個榮耀給凸顯出來。對對對。對不對。好。預計會發行幾套?發行一套四張。一套四張。對對對。是12月底會出來?不是一月底。\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n市長請我們總經理這邊好好的規劃啦本席只是說因為有很多人的一個期待也希望都是能夠看到我們中華英雄所以特別現在郵票雖然說沒有那麼多人使用但是我們希望既然已經有規劃就好好規劃也一定是要彰顯我們這個臺灣球員的這個光榮\n那之前我有提雙層巴士在高速公路的一個通勤的狀況是不是請我們今天高工局的局長我就因為時間到了請局長事後跟本席辦公室來做個報告你們現在開會的進度怎麼樣好不好司長應該是路政司司長去做討論嘛那高工局這邊來協助配合嘛對不對\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.864 --> 00:17.470\n主席謝謝麻煩請次長以及我們陶園機場總經理跟中華郵政總經理好請那個中華郵政總經理好來次長直接請教很多委員也都關心啦所謂黃金之亂啦齁那陶園機場這邊當然應該要檢討我們這個採盲的合約也應該要來做確認那之前部長講是說無延長計畫是代表之後不會再簽約嗎\n\n00:36.901 --> 01:04.359\n我想這部分是不是請陶琦同事來說一下。是,報告委員,因為我們原來的合約之前因為中間執行有碰到疫情,所以我們也依照出產法以及契約的相關規定在去年有完成修約。那這個部分目前就是照這個合約來執行,後續目前沒有任何其他的所謂再延長的這個。是,那相關的簽約廠商合約裡面有沒有獎懲祭典的機制?\n\n01:05.700 --> 01:31.012\n有也有嘛是也跟委員報告我們已經把這一次的缺失亂象是我們請廠商要提出檢討改善報告同時祭典在今年的營運績效評估會把他納進來那同時間我們也檢討依照契約的規定因為他這一次的這個不當行為已經造成我們機場營運的影響我們會依照契約規定給予懲罰性的處罰\n\n01:35.034 --> 01:49.697\n所以不只是罰100萬,對不對?現在我們看到媒體講說是罰100萬,那除了罰100萬以外還有相關的獎懲,是不是?就是行政在履約上面的一個平和的部分,這個都會納入記錄。好,可是拉回來啊?\n\n01:50.498 --> 02:18.228\n道基要檢討彩萌要檢討但更重要的是為什麼這管制區有那麼多人啊我不知道次長你有沒有看到那一天的畫面我第一時間本席看到的時候那個媒體出來的畫面我以為那是管制區外結果管制區外大家講說反而大家遵守都還不錯管制區內反而亂糟糟然後甚至很多人都進去然後會讓大家網友就講說好像現在只有我沒有管制證了那管制證到底發多少張\n\n02:19.707 --> 02:29.498\n只會發到那一些進去裡面的人全都是有管制證嗎?還是有沒有那一天趁亂就是一個人帶一個進去?不會嘛。但管制證是不是太泛濫了?你說那個連彩蒙的經營團隊大家都有,他明顯他不是在裡面工作的人嘛,是不是?\n\n02:42.009 --> 03:01.567\n報告委員我想當天在管制區內人會比較多是因為有來的單位有拿管制證全都進去了有來的單位比較多那有一些像比如說以我們機場公司本身我們當然有工作證那像免稅店的這些的工作同仁也有工作證\n\n03:02.168 --> 03:29.406\n對,所以我現在講的就是說管制區內其實亂是讓國人沒有辦法接受的因為照理講管制區內既然是管制區代表說它出入就已經有管制了你如果說今天反而是管制區外沒有問題因為大家拉紅龍大家都依照遵守而且媒體也是井然有序那反而管制區內是沒有任何的規範那甚至有人講說蕭副總統接機什麼時候決定\n\n03:33.925 --> 04:02.437\n校副總統接機什麼時候決定?這個部分因為我們機場這邊我們是配合做相關的...對那什麼時候才告知不管是國安單位或是總統府什麼時候告知陶基說校副總統要來接機?這個可能我們要...不是啊你是總經理你不知道因為我知道副總統會來接機但是我原則就是說哪一天...好那有沒有找陶基開過會?如果照你講你連他什麼時候來你都不知道所以他有沒有找陶基開過會?\n\n04:04.538 --> 04:20.295\n動線要怎麼走也不知道我們相關的接機甚至是送機這些流程在機場我們有過去已經有一些模式存在當然有模式但是今年不不不總經理這個我你的回答我沒有辦法接受喔因為這一次大家會看到這個亂象\n\n04:21.696 --> 04:37.909\n第一當然是這個彩蒙他們有狀況但第二蕭副總統他是元首級規格整個國安團隊進入到管制區我說實在話淘機的同仁有辦法去管國安單位嗎很難嘛\n\n04:39.770 --> 04:42.411\nadequatetothecurrentsituation.\n\n05:01.540 --> 05:26.401\n所以就代表是說是不是蕭副總統他決定接機的時間也比較晚然後也沒有找淘擠開會所以變成是說當天的狀況國安單位也應該要負起相關責任包委員不是這樣因為所有高級長官來機場的相關活動一定會有國安特勤甚至行警等各單位我們跟機場公司這邊我們會來共同就他的一個場地的動線跟佈置\n\n05:27.802 --> 05:40.745\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審\n\n05:48.747 --> 06:07.072\n那事實上我想我必須承認就是說我們對於整個國人對於這整件事情的熱情真的是超過我們的想像當天來歡迎的人數不管是在管制區內或外其實都是有史以來的紀錄所以市長\n\n06:08.383 --> 06:29.081\n該不該檢討就針對這個部分如果說連剛剛總經理講的就是說管制區內的人就變是只要我有工作證工作證的核發其實是為了工作使用才能進管制區嘛可是當天是只要有工作證的人我就想要去看中華英雄我就拿工作證進去所以才發生說所有管制區工作證的人全都進來\n\n06:31.143 --> 06:51.365\n因為你剛講了就是你超乎你的想像所以未來針對重要的貴賓或者是我們相關的球員或者是我們的好手回來因為我相信之後WBC2026年我們中華隊也可以再創佳績那到時候不要又出現一樣的亂象\n\n06:54.169 --> 07:15.801\n委員今天早上一直以來部長都有則由這個淘機公司要去檢討其實他的檢討就包含這個如果是以街機的話街機整體的規劃跟最後的落實度管制的落實度我想這個是包在一起的但是現在兩個部分一個是規劃有沒有規劃確實一個是落實淘機有沒有能力落實\n\n07:17.168 --> 07:39.414\n所以這一部分呢都是需要待後續的他的檢討裡頭。什麼時候檢討報告會出來?主委去討論。包委員剛才前面何委員何新淳委員已經我們有答應是三天要提出檢討報告。好也請給本席及給我們交通委員會委員一份。那另外中華郵政的部分抱歉喔趙委再給我一分鐘啦齁。\n\n07:40.054 --> 08:06.222\n中華郵政那個有講說12強這一次部長也已經講說會發行我們中華英雄的紀念郵票對不對非常好馬上就反映那請教現在規劃怎麼樣現在就是說我們在預計在12月底就今年年底的時候先發行一套個人化郵票那明年個人化對個人化不是郵票那但是那個紀念郵票要在明年的1月底因為這個要經過授權然後還要印刷等等\n\n08:06.482 --> 08:22.016\n但是就是會把我們中華英雄在這一次12強的這個榮耀給凸顯出來。對對對。對不對。好。預計會發行幾套?發行一套四張。一套四張。對對對。是12月底會出來?不是一月底。\n\n08:22.056 --> 08:25.519\n五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單\n\n08:49.021 --> 09:05.411\n市長請我們總經理這邊好好的規劃啦本席只是說因為有很多人的一個期待也希望都是能夠看到我們中華英雄所以特別現在郵票雖然說沒有那麼多人使用但是我們希望既然已經有規劃就好好規劃也一定是要彰顯我們這個臺灣球員的這個光榮\n\n09:10.094 --> 09:30.231\n那之前我有提雙層巴士在高速公路的一個通勤的狀況是不是請我們今天高工局的局長我就因為時間到了請局長事後跟本席辦公室來做個報告你們現在開會的進度怎麼樣好不好司長應該是路政司司長去做討論嘛那高工局這邊來協助配合嘛對不對\n\n09:31.513 --> 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4張。"],["洪委員孟楷：一套4張？"],["江總經理瑞堂：對。"],["洪委員孟楷：是12月底會出來？"],["江總經理瑞堂：不是，1月底。"],["洪委員孟楷：1月底會出來？"],["江總經理瑞堂：紀念郵票。"],["洪委員孟楷：那12月會出來什麼？"],["江總經理瑞堂：那是個人化郵票，大概1萬套。這個不是郵票發行，是個人化郵票，這個一般人都可以要求、可以印的。就是說郵票上面可以放你的照片等等，這個比較容易，不必經過授權。"],["洪委員孟楷：那這跟中華英雄12強有什麼關係？"],["江總經理瑞堂：就是以它為主題。"],["洪委員孟楷：好啦！次長，請總經理這邊好好地規劃啦！本席只是說因為有很多人的期待，也希望都是能夠看到我們中華英雄，所以特別現在郵票雖然說沒有那麼多人使用，但是我們希望既然已經有規劃就好好規劃，也一定是要彰顯我們臺灣球員的光榮。之前我有提雙層巴士在高速公路通勤的狀況……"],["主席：時間到了。洪委員！"],["洪委員孟楷：因為時間到了，是不是請高公局局長事後跟本席辦公室報告你們現在開會的進度怎麼樣，好不好？應該是路政司司長去做討論嘛！那高公局這邊來協助配合嘛！對不對？已經一個多月了。"],["林司長福山：簡單跟委員報告一下，現在有請車安中心協助幫忙蒐集國外的資料。"],["洪委員孟楷：對，但是本席一直沒有看到進度。"],["林司長福山：對，因為目前還在蒐集國外的資料，包括倫敦、包括香港……"],["洪委員孟楷：好。因為這個議題其實我之前就講過，共同生活圈非常重視……"],["主席：洪委員，時間到了。"],["洪委員孟楷：北北基桃、中彰投、雲嘉南、高高屏其實都會有需要，所以這個有進度請跟本席辦公室來做一個update，好不好？謝謝。"],["陳次長彥伯：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝洪孟楷委員。","接下來邀請陳冠廷委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":390,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-23-11","speakers":["陳素月","林沛祥","林俊憲","林國成","許智傑","何欣純","黃健豪","廖先翔","游顥","徐富癸","蔡其昌","邱若華","魯明哲","陳培瑜","黃國昌","麥玉珍","李昆澤","吳宗憲","楊瓊瓔","涂權吉","葉元之","陳雪生","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","洪孟楷","陳冠廷","林月琴","陳俊宇","林倩綺","王鴻薇","羅智強","張雅琳"],"page_start":309,"meetingDate":["2024-11-27"],"gazette_id":"11310501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310501_00011"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第11次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部單位預算；二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關\n於交通部中央氣象署單位預算；三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部公路局及所屬單\n位預算；四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業\n基金─國道公路建設管理基金分預算（僅進行詢答）","agenda_id":"11310501_00013"}}}