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00:03:35,874\n因為我對這塊非常非常的在乎再來下一個部分就是國家核心關鍵技術的部分因為這個我們在2023年12月5號已經公告了首波的22項技術涵蓋了國防科技、太空農業、半導體等等資通安全技術領域那今年11月1號的時候國科會也預告國家核心關鍵技術項目以及技術主管機關修正的草案已經新增了10項涵蓋了\n\n11\n00:03:37,935 --> 00:03:55,142\n太空、量子科技、半導體及能源目前我們累計有32項這件事情除了要保護國家重要的技術之外也是要符合全球產業的一個趨勢之前是有說明說年底的時候會召開國家核心關鍵技術審議會來進行這些新增技術項目的認定我想問一下現在預告到11月15號我們現在\n\n12\n00:04:04,306 --> 00:04:07,048\n第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n13\n00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,731\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n14\n00:04:49,387 --> 00:05:12,854\n當時我們也去拜會了幾個民主黨的議員拜會了一位民主黨的議員那後來我去國會山莊又拜會了民主黨跟共和黨的議員他們都強調一個很重要的重點就是抗中是他們的兩黨共識所以相關的川普總統的發言也都是再度的去強調這個保護主義的部分所以我想面對這個川普的勝選我們接下來我們台灣跟全球半導體產業您認為會產生什麼樣子的影響\n\n15\n00:05:16,135 --> 00:05:18,076\n及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n16\n00:05:32,975 --> 00:06:01,747\n因為我想因為之前他也是在選舉的過程之中有講到這個臺灣有偷賣這個晶片過去的這個問題對那我想這應該也是要適時我們要跟川普政府來做更多的溝通才對是其實我們行政院總統府這邊在選前都已經做好因應之道了我們已經有長期的這個討論那目前的這個做法其實不需要做太大的調整我們一定會跟美國會合作的非常好\n\n17\n00:06:02,567 --> 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有請我主委\n主委好,我想先讓您來看看這張照片這張照片我想這一次的是世界十二強的這個賽事您應該也是非常興奮的去看見了我們這一次拿到了冠軍就像您當年也帶領了我們在威廉波特上面這個少棒大賽的一個冠軍那我這邊就找到了一些您過去的照片那這個呢其實就要串聯到我下一個題目\n就是說這麼多年來我們其實距離上次打敗日本已經32年但是這一次我們打敗其實有一個很重要的研究是在於這個精準運動科學研究但是我想除了這個東西我們是不是國科會還可以出更多的力氣來進一步協助我們台灣的運動發展呢我們現在有沒有一些具體的規劃或行動\n有,我們目前有,國科會本身有精準運動科學的計畫這是在我們的人文處那我們的產學處其實也有運動科技產學合作的計畫也在推動當中那我們也編列預算協助我們的教育部體育署也在推動相關的這個體育的選手、教練\n一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關\n科技預算我們也允許國家運動科學中心的研究員也可以申請我們國科會的計畫所以現在逐步在推動當中將來我們預算會逐年再增加吸引更多科技的人才進到這個運動的領域\n我想其實體力就是國力啦所以這件事情真的是需要國科會來大力的支持讓我們這件事情這次得到12強的冠軍不會只是曇花一現而是未來在世世代代我們的孩子我們的下一代都不用就是自己靠自己的努力靠自己的打拼自己去摸索而是有國家的支持\n所以也非常高興的聽到剛剛主委有說會結合科技來協助我們更多的台灣英雄不過還是要回到剛剛講的這個精準運動科學剛剛培育委員提到了這個案例我希望就是說主委要盡快的去進行調查因為我們在做一些研究的時候還是要依循倫理不能夠讓我們過去在傳統在體育訓練的時候\n則成為教練用各種理由、方式來威脅強迫選手進行一些不當的訓練。這件事情我希望主委到時候這份調查報告也提供到辦公室。好,謝謝,謝謝委員。那針對於剛剛講的那些運動科技管理的部分,殘學合作的部分,我希望是說我們可以會後跟主委約個時間來我們辦公室再來詳細的討論。\n因為我對這塊非常非常的在乎再來下一個部分就是國家核心關鍵技術的部分因為這個我們在2023年12月5號已經公告了首波的22項技術涵蓋了國防科技、太空農業、半導體等等資通安全技術領域那今年11月1號的時候國科會也預告國家核心關鍵技術項目以及技術主管機關修正的草案已經新增了10項涵蓋了\n太空、量子科技、半導體及能源目前我們累計有32項這件事情除了要保護國家重要的技術之外也是要符合全球產業的一個趨勢之前是有說明說年底的時候會召開國家核心關鍵技術審議會來進行這些新增技術項目的認定我想問一下現在預告到11月15號我們現在\n第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n當時我們也去拜會了幾個民主黨的議員拜會了一位民主黨的議員那後來我去國會山莊又拜會了民主黨跟共和黨的議員他們都強調一個很重要的重點就是抗中是他們的兩黨共識所以相關的川普總統的發言也都是再度的去強調這個保護主義的部分所以我想面對這個川普的勝選我們接下來我們台灣跟全球半導體產業您認為會產生什麼樣子的影響\n及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n因為我想因為之前他也是在選舉的過程之中有講到這個臺灣有偷賣這個晶片過去的這個問題對那我想這應該也是要適時我們要跟川普政府來做更多的溝通才對是其實我們行政院總統府這邊在選前都已經做好因應之道了我們已經有長期的這個討論那目前的這個做法其實不需要做太大的調整我們一定會跟美國會合作的非常好\n因為我看到新聞報導是有講到我們有一些產業的龍頭們大家都非常的緊張對於他的這樣子的發言那我也希望說國科會組會也要來協助我們的產業們一起來做一些說明那最後呢我想因為我的時間已經到還有兩分鐘耶非常好還有一題可以問\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關\n經創主機及大南方主機建置完成之後我們就會有4個AI超級電腦但是我發現有9成的算力集中在南部地區如果排除了輝達的台北灣我們現在高度集中97.8%都在大南方我就想請教主委這個面對我們台灣的這種風災、地震等等\n我們要如何來增加我們的AI的韌性呢?因為過度集中這個韌性您的因應計劃是什麼?\n報告委員過去其實我們在民間的建制大部分集中在北部所以北部的商業其實是現在是相當高的那將來在做這個主權AI的時候我們的確是需要分散所以最近這幾年我們重點會投資在南部就是為了要分散這個風險那將來因為算力本身是透過網路是你建在哪裡其實都可以用但是在台灣本島我們的確是要分散這些風險所以目前必須要加強在南部的建制\n現在北部的這個算力的一個狀態是多少呢目前在民間我們沒有民間很多的企業並沒有公佈他們的這個算力的這個程度因為很多是屬於這個商業自主在運作我們使用民間的這個算例比如說Google的Telacenter在台灣是非常非常大的Microsoft、Amazon這些都有\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n但是我想因為剛剛主委是有提到說過去都集中在北部現在我們要補強我們的南部嘛聽起來是這樣但是我覺得我們還是要去了解我們到底北部有多少嘛這樣才會知道我們是不是過度集中吧這部分我覺得主委還是要做一個了解啦另外一個就是說上次我提到就算力國家隊的部分我想這個應該就是結合在您剛剛說的這個北部民間企業的部分對嗎是這個我們會整合在一起是\n第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.361 --> 00:12.141\n張雅琳委員質詢謝謝主席我們有請主委好有請我主委\n\n00:16.843 --> 00:43.475\n主委好,我想先讓您來看看這張照片這張照片我想這一次的是世界十二強的這個賽事您應該也是非常興奮的去看見了我們這一次拿到了冠軍就像您當年也帶領了我們在威廉波特上面這個少棒大賽的一個冠軍那我這邊就找到了一些您過去的照片那這個呢其實就要串聯到我下一個題目\n\n00:44.375 --> 01:09.102\n就是說這麼多年來我們其實距離上次打敗日本已經32年但是這一次我們打敗其實有一個很重要的研究是在於這個精準運動科學研究但是我想除了這個東西我們是不是國科會還可以出更多的力氣來進一步協助我們台灣的運動發展呢我們現在有沒有一些具體的規劃或行動\n\n01:11.072 --> 01:28.864\n有,我們目前有,國科會本身有精準運動科學的計畫這是在我們的人文處那我們的產學處其實也有運動科技產學合作的計畫也在推動當中那我們也編列預算協助我們的教育部體育署也在推動相關的這個體育的選手、教練\n\n01:34.048 --> 01:37.390\n一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關\n\n01:51.816 --> 02:05.488\n科技預算我們也允許國家運動科學中心的研究員也可以申請我們國科會的計畫所以現在逐步在推動當中將來我們預算會逐年再增加吸引更多科技的人才進到這個運動的領域\n\n02:07.209 --> 02:27.375\n我想其實體力就是國力啦所以這件事情真的是需要國科會來大力的支持讓我們這件事情這次得到12強的冠軍不會只是曇花一現而是未來在世世代代我們的孩子我們的下一代都不用就是自己靠自己的努力靠自己的打拼自己去摸索而是有國家的支持\n\n02:28.655 --> 02:44.729\n所以也非常高興的聽到剛剛主委有說會結合科技來協助我們更多的台灣英雄不過還是要回到剛剛講的這個精準運動科學剛剛培育委員提到了這個案例我希望就是說主委要盡快的去進行調查因為我們在做一些研究的時候還是要依循倫理不能夠讓我們過去在傳統在體育訓練的時候\n\n02:48.552 --> 03:10.061\n則成為教練用各種理由、方式來威脅強迫選手進行一些不當的訓練。這件事情我希望主委到時候這份調查報告也提供到辦公室。好,謝謝,謝謝委員。那針對於剛剛講的那些運動科技管理的部分,殘學合作的部分,我希望是說我們可以會後跟主委約個時間來我們辦公室再來詳細的討論。\n\n03:12.282 --> 03:35.874\n因為我對這塊非常非常的在乎再來下一個部分就是國家核心關鍵技術的部分因為這個我們在2023年12月5號已經公告了首波的22項技術涵蓋了國防科技、太空農業、半導體等等資通安全技術領域那今年11月1號的時候國科會也預告國家核心關鍵技術項目以及技術主管機關修正的草案已經新增了10項涵蓋了\n\n03:37.935 --> 03:55.142\n太空、量子科技、半導體及能源目前我們累計有32項這件事情除了要保護國家重要的技術之外也是要符合全球產業的一個趨勢之前是有說明說年底的時候會召開國家核心關鍵技術審議會來進行這些新增技術項目的認定我想問一下現在預告到11月15號我們現在\n\n04:04.306 --> 04:07.048\n第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n04:28.769 --> 04:30.731\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n04:49.387 --> 05:12.854\n當時我們也去拜會了幾個民主黨的議員拜會了一位民主黨的議員那後來我去國會山莊又拜會了民主黨跟共和黨的議員他們都強調一個很重要的重點就是抗中是他們的兩黨共識所以相關的川普總統的發言也都是再度的去強調這個保護主義的部分所以我想面對這個川普的勝選我們接下來我們台灣跟全球半導體產業您認為會產生什麼樣子的影響\n\n05:16.135 --> 05:18.076\n及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n05:32.975 --> 06:01.747\n因為我想因為之前他也是在選舉的過程之中有講到這個臺灣有偷賣這個晶片過去的這個問題對那我想這應該也是要適時我們要跟川普政府來做更多的溝通才對是其實我們行政院總統府這邊在選前都已經做好因應之道了我們已經有長期的這個討論那目前的這個做法其實不需要做太大的調整我們一定會跟美國會合作的非常好\n\n06:02.567 --> 06:20.222\n因為我看到新聞報導是有講到我們有一些產業的龍頭們大家都非常的緊張對於他的這樣子的發言那我也希望說國科會組會也要來協助我們的產業們一起來做一些說明那最後呢我想因為我的時間已經到還有兩分鐘耶非常好還有一題可以問\n\n06:22.244 --> 06:27.668\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關\n\n06:53.047 --> 07:16.396\n經創主機及大南方主機建置完成之後我們就會有4個AI超級電腦但是我發現有9成的算力集中在南部地區如果排除了輝達的台北灣我們現在高度集中97.8%都在大南方我就想請教主委這個面對我們台灣的這種風災、地震等等\n\n07:17.176 --> 07:20.820\n我們要如何來增加我們的AI的韌性呢?因為過度集中這個韌性您的因應計劃是什麼?\n\n07:23.015 --> 07:52.090\n報告委員過去其實我們在民間的建制大部分集中在北部所以北部的商業其實是現在是相當高的那將來在做這個主權AI的時候我們的確是需要分散所以最近這幾年我們重點會投資在南部就是為了要分散這個風險那將來因為算力本身是透過網路是你建在哪裡其實都可以用但是在台灣本島我們的確是要分散這些風險所以目前必須要加強在南部的建制\n\n07:52.750 --> 08:19.537\n現在北部的這個算力的一個狀態是多少呢目前在民間我們沒有民間很多的企業並沒有公佈他們的這個算力的這個程度因為很多是屬於這個商業自主在運作我們使用民間的這個算例比如說Google的Telacenter在台灣是非常非常大的Microsoft、Amazon這些都有\n\n08:20.017 --> 08:22.038\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n08:38.507 --> 09:01.565\n但是我想因為剛剛主委是有提到說過去都集中在北部現在我們要補強我們的南部嘛聽起來是這樣但是我覺得我們還是要去了解我們到底北部有多少嘛這樣才會知道我們是不是過度集中吧這部分我覺得主委還是要做一個了解啦另外一個就是說上次我提到就算力國家隊的部分我想這個應該就是結合在您剛剛說的這個北部民間企業的部分對嗎是這個我們會整合在一起是\n\n09:02.045 --> 09:03.967\n第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.361,"end":12.141,"text":"張雅琳委員質詢謝謝主席 我們有請主委好 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該不太會有什麼樣子的影響，不太需要什麼樣子的因應嗎？因為之前他也是在選舉的過程之中有講到臺灣有偷賣晶片過去的問題嘛。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是。"],["張委員雅琳：所以我想這應該也是要適時，我們要跟川普政府來做更多的溝通才對。"],["吳主任委員誠文：其實我們行政院、總統府這邊，在選前都已經做好因應之道，我們已經有長期的討論，目前這個作法其實不需要做太大的調整，我們一定會跟美國合作得非常好。"],["張委員雅琳：因為我看到新聞報導有講到，我們有一些產業的龍頭們，大家都非常的緊張，對於他這樣子的發言，我也希望國科會主委要來協助我們的產業們一起來做一些說明。","最後，我想要問的是大南方產業生態系，因為我們現在是說要讓臺灣成為一個人工智慧之島，所以我們其實有這個方案，但是我發現，我們目前在擴算力的部分，臺灣公部門的算力是19 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Center在臺灣是非常非常大的，Microsoft、Amazon這些都有，臺灣自己的企業也有建他們的算力，也非常的多，這是符合現在的需求。我們政府算力的增加，是要彌補在南部的缺陷，所以現在重點投資南部，但是也會引起企業將來也會往南部再投資更多的算力，所以我們……"],["張委員雅琳：因為剛剛主委是有提到過去都集中在北部，現在我們要補強我們的南部嘛，聽起來是這樣，但是我覺得我們還是要去了解，我們在北部到底有多少嘛，這樣才會知道我們是不是過度集中吧，這部分我覺得主委還是要做一個了解啦！"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝委員。"],["張委員雅琳：另外一個就是，上一次我有提到算力國家隊的部分，我想這應該就是結合在您剛剛說的北部民間企業的部分，對嗎？"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，這個我們會整合在一起。"],["張委員雅琳：我想這個部分，因為我的時間已經到了，我們就是連同剛剛那個未來運動科技產業的研究，我們一起在辦公室繼續聊好了，謝謝你。"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝，謝謝委員。"],["主席：好，謝謝張雅琳委員。","接下來有請葛如鈞委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":284,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-22-10","speakers":["萬美玲","洪孟楷","柯志恩","林倩綺","陳培瑜","陳秀寳","張雅琳","葛如鈞","羅廷瑋","吳沛憶","郭昱晴","葉元之","吳春城","林宜瑾","楊瓊瓔"],"page_start":241,"meetingDate":["2024-11-28"],"gazette_id":"11310803","agenda_lcidc_ids":["11310803_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第10次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委員會及所屬單位預算案；二、審查114\n年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院主管行政院國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案；三、審查\n114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委員會主管科學園區管理局作業基金附屬單位預\n算案；四、審查114年度行政法人國家災害防救科技中心預算案；五、審查114年度行政法人國家\n太空中心預算案（僅進行詢答）","agenda_id":"11310803_00002"}}}