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00:00:38,614\n政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n4\n00:01:03,285 --> 00:01:18,305\n會不會美國會施壓要求我們分享更多的先進技術因為這一塊在台灣是我們非常重要的一個資產那我們政府要如何的來因應請做說明報告委員我們半導體\n\n5\n00:01:19,486 --> 00:01:44,927\n至成先進技術一定會跟留臺灣我們最先進技術的發展過程絕對是在臺灣發展但是發展成熟以後我們把它變成是可以量產製造這個時候我們當然是願意跟友好國家來合作能夠擴充我們的製造領域到國外那這樣子對雙方是互利的因為第一我們市場拓展\n\n6\n00:01:45,747 --> 00:01:55,911\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年\n\n7\n00:02:13,997 --> 00:02:40,976\n因為即使我們先進廠是在國外我們的重要資料是不落地的一定還是在臺灣保存的就是這個本席今天第一題提問要非常重要就是保留在臺灣這是主委你宣誓的我們非常高興聽到這樣的一個訊息加油那面對的整個AI產業我們看到不管是在個人或者是企業在擁抱AI的時代裡頭不管是學習相關的應用技術\n\n8\n00:02:41,496 --> 00:02:43,238\n以及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委以及所屬單位預算案以及所屬單位預算案\n\n9\n00:03:06,098 --> 00:03:29,404\n所以你談到重點也是本席非常關心台灣今天之所以這個經濟的基礎面能夠在世界發光發熱我們的中小企業務必一定要好好照顧他們所以在整個AI的部分要怎麼樣協助我們中小企業尤其在傳統產業的領域這是我們的根本這是我們的基礎根本那怎麼做呢\n\n10\n00:03:29,744 --> 00:03:51,106\n好,我們明年開始發展第一主權的AI以後我們會希望在需求端也就是要使用AI的這些產業能夠加緊我們跟經濟部跟數位發展部來共同來合作來補助我們要用這些AI的這個工具AI的應用服務的這些產商我們也可以補助他\n\n11\n00:03:51,747 --> 00:03:55,068\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n12\n00:04:13,192 --> 00:04:29,359\n最後一個議題也就是英國阿斯福的insights對每一年各國的AI的準確度有經過的準備程度來進行評比。它的內容當然包括了政府技術以及數據還有基礎設施這三項是重點。\n\n13\n00:04:33,241 --> 00:04:36,603\n第11屆第2會期教育及文化委第3、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n14\n00:04:56,576 --> 00:05:03,599\n及中國大陸政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n15\n00:05:25,989 --> 00:05:30,793\n報告委員,我們開始編列AI的預算,就是剛剛委員有提到2018年開始,兩個計畫,到明年的114年,這個算力的建置就會快速的提升了\n\n16\n00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:49,907\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n17\n00:06:02,193 --> 00:06:05,255\n但是當他們所討論的這個面向以及他們的指標我們還是要與時俱進的跟整個國際來接軌因為台灣這麼好怎麼可能會從這個111年的14名然後到112年驟降到19名這是我們不樂見看到的對不對好我們會努力謝謝委員好加油好謝謝楊先生\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n29\t5235\t梁委員時間4分鐘謝謝謝謝主席,楊卿發議員邀請主委吳卓偉楊委員好\n13447\t33012\t主委好,上週呢看出了在日經亞洲呢主委你獨家的專訪那你也特別說政府接下來呢每一年要編列300億那大概是每年10億的美金來推動整個人工智慧AI資料中心跟相關的發展\n33712\t38614\t政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n63285\t78305\t會不會美國會施壓要求我們分享更多的先進技術因為這一塊在台灣是我們非常重要的一個資產那我們政府要如何的來因應請做說明報告委員我們半導體\n79486\t104927\t至成先進技術一定會跟留臺灣我們最先進技術的發展過程絕對是在臺灣發展但是發展成熟以後我們把它變成是可以量產製造這個時候我們當然是願意跟友好國家來合作能夠擴充我們的製造領域到國外那這樣子對雙方是互利的因為第一我們市場拓展\n105747\t115911\t第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年\n133997\t160976\t因為即使我們先進廠是在國外我們的重要資料是不落地的一定還是在臺灣保存的就是這個本席今天第一題提問要非常重要就是保留在臺灣這是主委你宣誓的我們非常高興聽到這樣的一個訊息加油那面對的整個AI產業我們看到不管是在個人或者是企業在擁抱AI的時代裡頭不管是學習相關的應用技術\n161496\t163238\t以及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委以及所屬單位預算案以及所屬單位預算案\n186098\t209404\t所以你談到重點也是本席非常關心台灣今天之所以這個經濟的基礎面能夠在世界發光發熱我們的中小企業務必一定要好好照顧他們所以在整個AI的部分要怎麼樣協助我們中小企業尤其在傳統產業的領域這是我們的根本這是我們的基礎根本那怎麼做呢\n209744\t231106\t好,我們明年開始發展第一主權的AI以後我們會希望在需求端也就是要使用AI的這些產業能夠加緊我們跟經濟部跟數位發展部來共同來合作來補助我們要用這些AI的這個工具AI的應用服務的這些產商我們也可以補助他\n231747\t235068\t第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n253192\t269359\t最後一個議題也就是英國阿斯福的insights對每一年各國的AI的準確度有經過的準備程度來進行評比。它的內容當然包括了政府技術以及數據還有基礎設施這三項是重點。\n273241\t276603\t第11屆第2會期教育及文化委第3、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n296576\t303599\t及中國大陸政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n325989\t330793\t報告委員,我們開始編列AI的預算,就是剛剛委員有提到2018年開始,兩個計畫,到明年的114年,這個算力的建置就會快速的提升了\n343604\t349907\t第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n362193\t365255\t但是當他們所討論的這個面向以及他們的指標我們還是要與時俱進的跟整個國際來接軌因為台灣這麼好怎麼可能會從這個111年的14名然後到112年驟降到19名這是我們不樂見看到的對不對好我們會努力謝謝委員好加油好謝謝楊先生\n","txt":"梁委員時間4分鐘謝謝謝謝主席,楊卿發議員邀請主委吳卓偉楊委員好\n主委好,上週呢看出了在日經亞洲呢主委你獨家的專訪那你也特別說政府接下來呢每一年要編列300億那大概是每年10億的美金來推動整個人工智慧AI資料中心跟相關的發展\n政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n會不會美國會施壓要求我們分享更多的先進技術因為這一塊在台灣是我們非常重要的一個資產那我們政府要如何的來因應請做說明報告委員我們半導體\n至成先進技術一定會跟留臺灣我們最先進技術的發展過程絕對是在臺灣發展但是發展成熟以後我們把它變成是可以量產製造這個時候我們當然是願意跟友好國家來合作能夠擴充我們的製造領域到國外那這樣子對雙方是互利的因為第一我們市場拓展\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年\n因為即使我們先進廠是在國外我們的重要資料是不落地的一定還是在臺灣保存的就是這個本席今天第一題提問要非常重要就是保留在臺灣這是主委你宣誓的我們非常高興聽到這樣的一個訊息加油那面對的整個AI產業我們看到不管是在個人或者是企業在擁抱AI的時代裡頭不管是學習相關的應用技術\n以及所屬單位預算案有關國家科學及技術委以及所屬單位預算案以及所屬單位預算案\n所以你談到重點也是本席非常關心台灣今天之所以這個經濟的基礎面能夠在世界發光發熱我們的中小企業務必一定要好好照顧他們所以在整個AI的部分要怎麼樣協助我們中小企業尤其在傳統產業的領域這是我們的根本這是我們的基礎根本那怎麼做呢\n好,我們明年開始發展第一主權的AI以後我們會希望在需求端也就是要使用AI的這些產業能夠加緊我們跟經濟部跟數位發展部來共同來合作來補助我們要用這些AI的這個工具AI的應用服務的這些產商我們也可以補助他\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n最後一個議題也就是英國阿斯福的insights對每一年各國的AI的準確度有經過的準備程度來進行評比。它的內容當然包括了政府技術以及數據還有基礎設施這三項是重點。\n第11屆第2會期教育及文化委第3、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n及中國大陸政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n報告委員,我們開始編列AI的預算,就是剛剛委員有提到2018年開始,兩個計畫,到明年的114年,這個算力的建置就會快速的提升了\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委第三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n但是當他們所討論的這個面向以及他們的指標我們還是要與時俱進的跟整個國際來接軌因為台灣這麼好怎麼可能會從這個111年的14名然後到112年驟降到19名這是我們不樂見看到的對不對好我們會努力謝謝委員好加油好謝謝楊先生\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.029 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