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00:00:33,797\n各位早安吶各位美國總統當選人川普即將在明年1月上任那過去川普他在競選期間對台灣的這個晶片呢說過一些言論讓我們現在也覺得十分的擔憂包括可能對台灣的晶片加稅或是說晶片法案2.0的走向那其中呢如果還加上說限制對中這個晶片出口這個限制呢恐怕也會影響到揮打進而影響到台積電\n\n3\n00:00:36,358 --> 00:00:47,603\n是不是也會驅使中國專注在中低階的晶片而影響台灣晶片的出口?甚至說再來會不會要求我們7奈米的這個先進製程要前進美國?這些種種的擔憂以及限制之下主管您認為我們應該要如何來保持我國晶片在國際上的優勢?另外主管您在採訪中有提到說未來不僅是半導體也會吹動這個主權式AI的發展\n\n4\n00:00:59,127 --> 00:01:24,488\n也會加強與川普政府合作那本席這邊要請教的是說主委您預計怎麼合作合作領域及合作的強度呢好謝謝委員這個議題真的是非常重要那半導體製造的部分呢我們一定在半導體先進製程的研發一定會跟流台灣所以最先進的製程一定是在台灣研究發展進到量產以後我們才會討論\n\n5\n00:01:27,091 --> 00:01:46,091\n在友好國家包括美國、日本、德國等等才會去討論說是不是要到國外去設廠那這個事情對雙方都是有利的因為台灣的先進製造技術的研發台灣的效率是最高的\n\n6\n00:01:46,832 --> 00:01:54,697\n一到其他的國家不見得很容易可以成功我們台灣一直有這個優勢然後如何繼續保持這樣的優勢其實本席要強調的是說川普未來上任的這個之後的這個位置數其實讓大家都非常的憂心那國科會這邊是我們高階科技的技術的帶領者同時這個基礎的這個科研也是很重要的支持者所以本席希望說針對這個整個國事局勢的這個變化我們相關的單位也要有不同的方案來因應\n\n7\n00:02:15,011 --> 00:02:16,351\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n8\n00:02:43,058 --> 00:03:07,837\n在有職場霸凌的這樣的事情發生我們如何協助申訴以及對當事人的協助那這個部分我相信主委你也是十分的認同那國科會在11月22號才公布新的職場霸凌防治申訴及處理的這個作業要點在過去我們可能都是用人事總署的這個處理程序在做那現在有新的辦法那我有看了一下國科會這個作業要點其中第五項針對霸凌防治申訴評議會\n\n9\n00:03:09,458 --> 00:03:30,755\n國科會這邊是規定了評議委員人數評議委員的來源評議委員的任期以及評議委員的性別比例但是你們沒有訂定外部委員的比例這個部分我會希望說你們這個一定要再檢討我們有看到其他部會在這個霸凌評議小組的這個組成基本上他們都會有規定就是說外部委員這個比例主要是擔憂內部人員他們會有一些壓力\n\n10\n00:03:33,977 --> 00:03:49,780\n所以會希望說有一個外部委員這個比例來參與這個評議那所以這個部分我會要求說主管你們回去要研議就是增加外部委員這個比例要提高至少有二分之一這個部分是不是你們回去好好的討論謝謝委員的建議我目前是三分之一啦\n\n11\n00:03:50,120 --> 00:04:05,434\n但是我認為提高到二、審查114是比較好而且剛才有委員提到其實最近有收到訊息說你們的同仁有要依循這個新的要點來做霸凌申訴可見內部是真的是有問題的所以這個希望說國會這邊可以好好的處理謝謝\n\n12\n00:04:09,477 --> 00:04:23,585\n那接下來呢也是要請教關於精準運課這個問題那主委您過去你自己本身是棒球國手那這次的十二強賽我們有很好的成績相信您自己也覺得非常的開心也很關心那台灣隊的勝利其實\n\n13\n00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:25,827\n在10月份的時候金準運科團隊有去法國\n\n14\n00:04:53,405 --> 00:05:17,120\n當時副團長是說國家科學會會強調是前瞻的技術及產品真正應用在運動員身上未來包括希望國訓中心及運科中心都應該接著來參與跟國家科學會的精準運科團隊有進一步的合作一起為台灣的運動來努力今天剛好也是司法法制委員會跟教文聯席在主條審查運動部的組織法\n\n15\n00:05:20,014 --> 00:05:27,843\n本期這邊就想要知道說我們未來國科會的這個精準運科要如何跟運動部舉運科中心來合作來互動\n\n16\n00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:50,454\n謝謝委員這個的確是很好的一個議題國科會過去這幾年來努力在支持精準運動科學的研究但是未來我還會再加強不是只有科學研究還會進到科技是希望能夠跟國家運科中心還有國訓中心未來的這個運動部能夠緊密的結合在一起\n\n17\n00:05:51,494 --> 00:05:55,796\n按照委員剛剛講的方向我們會努力前進其實我有一個感受就是說其實我們國科會這邊的精準運科你們做你們自己本身的這些研究相關的這些研究的時候我們跟國訓中心跟運科中心怎麼樣來互動而不是說你們說我們在做那國訓中心也要來參與運科中心也要來參與是說大家怎麼一起來做\n\n18\n00:06:17,367 --> 00:06:36,180\n所以我一直強調說之間的互動你們在該怎麼樣去互相合作是,合作就是靠著我們在三年前通過了行政院的一個科技政策就是運動科技所以透過行政院這個運動科技我們在編列科技預算的時候會把這個跨部會會把它結合在一起\n\n19\n00:06:38,001 --> 00:06:56,379\n主委您講到了我所要提出的就是跨部會又不是大家是平行單位各做各的因為其實我非常的在意這個所謂的運科知識訓練跟這個應該要來普及化全民化那國科會這邊也應該要思考說未來的走向持續經濟因為運科不是只有運動員的運科它是全民的運科但我們該如何把這樣的訓練知識訓練的這些相關的來做一個普及\n\n20\n00:07:02,705 --> 00:07:07,849\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案\n\n21\n00:07:23,001 --> 00:07:48,111\n好,那因為剛剛裴宇提到的這個問題其實我本來想說我今天準備的主題不是在這邊但是我還是要呼應一下我們做這些運科的這些相關的這個研究的時候我們其實要考慮到的層面其實很多那尤其剛剛裴宇提到的這樣的方式其實對運動員反而是一種傷害是所以我們如果既然有這樣的情勢發生我也希望說主委你們這個一定要很嚴肅的去面對這樣的問題去解決這樣的問題\n\n22\n00:07:49,992 --> 00:08:04,855\n是,我們會調查,而且將來我們還會再宣告讓所有的執行這些計畫的教授們要了解現在這種保護運動員的機制一定要搭配著他們計畫一定要提出來\n\n23\n00:08:05,356 --> 00:08:07,778\n關於研究計畫的部分根據國科會的統計資料顯示從2022年開始申請國科會專題計畫的申請件數是逐年的下降2023比2022已經少了1562件佔整體總比的6%\n\n24\n00:08:24,614 --> 00:08:26,615\n二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委二、審查2023年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n25\n00:08:43,864 --> 00:09:07,651\n報告委員有兩個因素第一個因素是因為我們現在因為人口老化我們提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中第二個因素是我們現在核定多年期的計畫比較多所以一個計畫是可以執行比較多年所以件數會減少但是沒有影響到教授因為我們的預算增加所以每個計畫的金額其實都一直在提高\n\n26\n00:09:08,471 --> 00:09:24,080\n您的意思是說因為是長期的計劃所以短期計劃是減少的可是因為減少的件數真的是非常非常的多我也希望說主委你們這邊應該要對這個部分有一個因應的措施是我們計劃通過率並沒有降低喔沒有降低但是申請的件數少很多阿\n\n27\n00:09:24,810 --> 00:09:25,930\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2921\t6850\t新主席請吳主委我們請吳主委上台政委員好\n10990\t33797\t各位早安吶 各位美國總統當選人川普即將在明年1月上任那過去川普他在競選期間對台灣的這個晶片呢說過一些言論讓我們現在也覺得十分的擔憂包括可能對台灣的晶片加稅或是說晶片法案2.0的走向那其中呢如果還加上說限制對中這個晶片出口這個限制呢恐怕也會影響到揮打進而影響到台積電\n36358\t47603\t是不是也會驅使中國專注在中低階的晶片而影響台灣晶片的出口?甚至說再來會不會要求我們7奈米的這個先進製程要前進美國?這些種種的擔憂以及限制之下主管您認為我們應該要如何來保持我國晶片在國際上的優勢?另外主管您在採訪中有提到說未來不僅是半導體也會吹動這個主權式AI的發展\n59127\t84488\t也會加強與川普政府合作那本席這邊要請教的是說主委您預計怎麼合作合作領域及合作的強度呢好謝謝委員這個議題真的是非常重要那半導體製造的部分呢我們一定在半導體先進製程的研發一定會跟流台灣所以最先進的製程一定是在台灣研究發展進到量產以後我們才會討論\n87091\t106091\t在友好國家包括美國、日本、德國等等才會去討論說是不是要到國外去設廠那這個事情對雙方都是有利的因為台灣的先進製造技術的研發台灣的效率是最高的\n106832\t114697\t一到其他的國家不見得很容易可以成功我們台灣一直有這個優勢然後如何繼續保持這樣的優勢其實本席要強調的是說川普未來上任的這個之後的這個位置數其實讓大家都非常的憂心那國科會這邊是我們高階科技的技術的帶領者同時這個基礎的這個科研也是很重要的支持者所以本席希望說針對這個整個國事局勢的這個變化我們相關的單位也要有不同的方案來因應\n135011\t136351\t第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n163058\t187837\t在有職場霸凌的這樣的事情發生我們如何協助申訴以及對當事人的協助那這個部分我相信主委你也是十分的認同那國科會在11月22號才公布新的職場霸凌防治申訴及處理的這個作業要點在過去我們可能都是用人事總署的這個處理程序在做那現在有新的辦法那我有看了一下國科會這個作業要點其中第五項針對霸凌防治申訴評議會\n189458\t210755\t國科會這邊是規定了評議委員人數評議委員的來源評議委員的任期以及評議委員的性別比例但是你們沒有訂定外部委員的比例這個部分我會希望說你們這個一定要再檢討我們有看到其他部會在這個霸凌評議小組的這個組成基本上他們都會有規定就是說外部委員這個比例主要是擔憂內部人員他們會有一些壓力\n213977\t229780\t所以會希望說有一個外部委員這個比例來參與這個評議那所以這個部分我會要求說主管你們回去要研議就是增加外部委員這個比例要提高至少有二分之一這個部分是不是你們回去好好的討論謝謝委員的建議我目前是三分之一啦\n230120\t245434\t但是我認為提高到二、審查114是比較好而且剛才有委員提到其實最近有收到訊息說你們的同仁有要依循這個新的要點來做霸凌申訴可見內部是真的是有問題的所以這個希望說國會這邊可以好好的處理謝謝\n249477\t263585\t那接下來呢也是要請教關於精準運課這個問題那主委您過去你自己本身是棒球國手那這次的十二強賽我們有很好的成績相信您自己也覺得非常的開心也很關心那台灣隊的勝利其實\n265066\t265827\t在10月份的時候金準運科團隊有去法國\n293405\t317120\t當時副團長是說國家科學會會強調是前瞻的技術及產品真正應用在運動員身上未來包括希望國訓中心及運科中心都應該接著來參與跟國家科學會的精準運科團隊有進一步的合作一起為台灣的運動來努力今天剛好也是司法法制委員會跟教文聯席在主條審查運動部的組織法\n320014\t327843\t本期這邊就想要知道說我們未來國科會的這個精準運科要如何跟運動部舉運科中心來合作來互動\n329220\t350454\t謝謝委員 這個的確是很好的一個議題國科會過去這幾年來努力在支持精準運動科學的研究但是未來我還會再加強不是只有科學研究還會進到科技是希望能夠跟國家運科中心還有國訓中心未來的這個運動部能夠緊密的結合在一起\n351494\t355796\t按照委員剛剛講的方向我們會努力前進其實我有一個感受就是說其實我們國科會這邊的精準運科你們做你們自己本身的這些研究相關的這些研究的時候我們跟國訓中心跟運科中心怎麼樣來互動而不是說你們說我們在做那國訓中心也要來參與運科中心也要來參與是說大家怎麼一起來做\n377367\t396180\t所以我一直強調說之間的互動你們在該怎麼樣去互相合作是,合作就是靠著我們在三年前通過了行政院的一個科技政策就是運動科技所以透過行政院這個運動科技我們在編列科技預算的時候會把這個跨部會會把它結合在一起\n398001\t416379\t主委您講到了我所要提出的就是跨部會又不是大家是平行單位各做各的因為其實我非常的在意這個所謂的運科知識訓練跟這個應該要來普及化全民化那國科會這邊也應該要思考說未來的走向持續經濟因為運科不是只有運動員的運科它是全民的運科但我們該如何把這樣的訓練知識訓練的這些相關的來做一個普及\n422705\t427849\t第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案\n443001\t468111\t好,那因為剛剛裴宇提到的這個問題其實我本來想說我今天準備的主題不是在這邊但是我還是要呼應一下我們做這些運科的這些相關的這個研究的時候我們其實要考慮到的層面其實很多那尤其剛剛裴宇提到的這樣的方式其實對運動員反而是一種傷害是所以我們如果既然有這樣的情勢發生我也希望說主委你們這個一定要很嚴肅的去面對這樣的問題去解決這樣的問題\n469992\t484855\t是,我們會調查,而且將來我們還會再宣告讓所有的執行這些計畫的教授們要了解現在這種保護運動員的機制一定要搭配著他們計畫一定要提出來\n485356\t487778\t關於研究計畫的部分根據國科會的統計資料顯示從2022年開始申請國科會專題計畫的申請件數是逐年的下降2023比2022已經少了1562件佔整體總比的6%\n504614\t506615\t二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委二、審查2023年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n523864\t547651\t報告委員有兩個因素第一個因素是因為我們現在因為人口老化我們提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中第二個因素是我們現在核定多年期的計畫比較多所以一個計畫是可以執行比較多年所以件數會減少但是沒有影響到教授因為我們的預算增加所以每個計畫的金額其實都一直在提高\n548471\t564080\t您的意思是說因為是長期的計劃所以短期計劃是減少的可是因為減少的件數真的是非常非常的多我也希望說主委你們這邊應該要對這個部分有一個因應的措施是我們計劃通過率並沒有降低喔沒有降低但是申請的件數少很多阿\n564810\t565930\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n","txt":"新主席請吳主委我們請吳主委上台政委員好\n各位早安吶 各位美國總統當選人川普即將在明年1月上任那過去川普他在競選期間對台灣的這個晶片呢說過一些言論讓我們現在也覺得十分的擔憂包括可能對台灣的晶片加稅或是說晶片法案2.0的走向那其中呢如果還加上說限制對中這個晶片出口這個限制呢恐怕也會影響到揮打進而影響到台積電\n是不是也會驅使中國專注在中低階的晶片而影響台灣晶片的出口?甚至說再來會不會要求我們7奈米的這個先進製程要前進美國?這些種種的擔憂以及限制之下主管您認為我們應該要如何來保持我國晶片在國際上的優勢?另外主管您在採訪中有提到說未來不僅是半導體也會吹動這個主權式AI的發展\n也會加強與川普政府合作那本席這邊要請教的是說主委您預計怎麼合作合作領域及合作的強度呢好謝謝委員這個議題真的是非常重要那半導體製造的部分呢我們一定在半導體先進製程的研發一定會跟流台灣所以最先進的製程一定是在台灣研究發展進到量產以後我們才會討論\n在友好國家包括美國、日本、德國等等才會去討論說是不是要到國外去設廠那這個事情對雙方都是有利的因為台灣的先進製造技術的研發台灣的效率是最高的\n一到其他的國家不見得很容易可以成功我們台灣一直有這個優勢然後如何繼續保持這樣的優勢其實本席要強調的是說川普未來上任的這個之後的這個位置數其實讓大家都非常的憂心那國科會這邊是我們高階科技的技術的帶領者同時這個基礎的這個科研也是很重要的支持者所以本席希望說針對這個整個國事局勢的這個變化我們相關的單位也要有不同的方案來因應\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n在有職場霸凌的這樣的事情發生我們如何協助申訴以及對當事人的協助那這個部分我相信主委你也是十分的認同那國科會在11月22號才公布新的職場霸凌防治申訴及處理的這個作業要點在過去我們可能都是用人事總署的這個處理程序在做那現在有新的辦法那我有看了一下國科會這個作業要點其中第五項針對霸凌防治申訴評議會\n國科會這邊是規定了評議委員人數評議委員的來源評議委員的任期以及評議委員的性別比例但是你們沒有訂定外部委員的比例這個部分我會希望說你們這個一定要再檢討我們有看到其他部會在這個霸凌評議小組的這個組成基本上他們都會有規定就是說外部委員這個比例主要是擔憂內部人員他們會有一些壓力\n所以會希望說有一個外部委員這個比例來參與這個評議那所以這個部分我會要求說主管你們回去要研議就是增加外部委員這個比例要提高至少有二分之一這個部分是不是你們回去好好的討論謝謝委員的建議我目前是三分之一啦\n但是我認為提高到二、審查114是比較好而且剛才有委員提到其實最近有收到訊息說你們的同仁有要依循這個新的要點來做霸凌申訴可見內部是真的是有問題的所以這個希望說國會這邊可以好好的處理謝謝\n那接下來呢也是要請教關於精準運課這個問題那主委您過去你自己本身是棒球國手那這次的十二強賽我們有很好的成績相信您自己也覺得非常的開心也很關心那台灣隊的勝利其實\n在10月份的時候金準運科團隊有去法國\n當時副團長是說國家科學會會強調是前瞻的技術及產品真正應用在運動員身上未來包括希望國訓中心及運科中心都應該接著來參與跟國家科學會的精準運科團隊有進一步的合作一起為台灣的運動來努力今天剛好也是司法法制委員會跟教文聯席在主條審查運動部的組織法\n本期這邊就想要知道說我們未來國科會的這個精準運科要如何跟運動部舉運科中心來合作來互動\n謝謝委員 這個的確是很好的一個議題國科會過去這幾年來努力在支持精準運動科學的研究但是未來我還會再加強不是只有科學研究還會進到科技是希望能夠跟國家運科中心還有國訓中心未來的這個運動部能夠緊密的結合在一起\n按照委員剛剛講的方向我們會努力前進其實我有一個感受就是說其實我們國科會這邊的精準運科你們做你們自己本身的這些研究相關的這些研究的時候我們跟國訓中心跟運科中心怎麼樣來互動而不是說你們說我們在做那國訓中心也要來參與運科中心也要來參與是說大家怎麼一起來做\n所以我一直強調說之間的互動你們在該怎麼樣去互相合作是,合作就是靠著我們在三年前通過了行政院的一個科技政策就是運動科技所以透過行政院這個運動科技我們在編列科技預算的時候會把這個跨部會會把它結合在一起\n主委您講到了我所要提出的就是跨部會又不是大家是平行單位各做各的因為其實我非常的在意這個所謂的運科知識訓練跟這個應該要來普及化全民化那國科會這邊也應該要思考說未來的走向持續經濟因為運科不是只有運動員的運科它是全民的運科但我們該如何把這樣的訓練知識訓練的這些相關的來做一個普及\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案\n好,那因為剛剛裴宇提到的這個問題其實我本來想說我今天準備的主題不是在這邊但是我還是要呼應一下我們做這些運科的這些相關的這個研究的時候我們其實要考慮到的層面其實很多那尤其剛剛裴宇提到的這樣的方式其實對運動員反而是一種傷害是所以我們如果既然有這樣的情勢發生我也希望說主委你們這個一定要很嚴肅的去面對這樣的問題去解決這樣的問題\n是,我們會調查,而且將來我們還會再宣告讓所有的執行這些計畫的教授們要了解現在這種保護運動員的機制一定要搭配著他們計畫一定要提出來\n關於研究計畫的部分根據國科會的統計資料顯示從2022年開始申請國科會專題計畫的申請件數是逐年的下降2023比2022已經少了1562件佔整體總比的6%\n二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委二、審查2023年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n報告委員有兩個因素第一個因素是因為我們現在因為人口老化我們提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中第二個因素是我們現在核定多年期的計畫比較多所以一個計畫是可以執行比較多年所以件數會減少但是沒有影響到教授因為我們的預算增加所以每個計畫的金額其實都一直在提高\n您的意思是說因為是長期的計劃所以短期計劃是減少的可是因為減少的件數真的是非常非常的多我也希望說主委你們這邊應該要對這個部分有一個因應的措施是我們計劃通過率並沒有降低喔沒有降低但是申請的件數少很多阿\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.921 --> 00:06.850\n新主席請吳主委我們請吳主委上台政委員好\n\n00:10.990 --> 00:33.797\n各位早安吶各位美國總統當選人川普即將在明年1月上任那過去川普他在競選期間對台灣的這個晶片呢說過一些言論讓我們現在也覺得十分的擔憂包括可能對台灣的晶片加稅或是說晶片法案2.0的走向那其中呢如果還加上說限制對中這個晶片出口這個限制呢恐怕也會影響到揮打進而影響到台積電\n\n00:36.358 --> 00:47.603\n是不是也會驅使中國專注在中低階的晶片而影響台灣晶片的出口?甚至說再來會不會要求我們7奈米的這個先進製程要前進美國?這些種種的擔憂以及限制之下主管您認為我們應該要如何來保持我國晶片在國際上的優勢?另外主管您在採訪中有提到說未來不僅是半導體也會吹動這個主權式AI的發展\n\n00:59.127 --> 01:24.488\n也會加強與川普政府合作那本席這邊要請教的是說主委您預計怎麼合作合作領域及合作的強度呢好謝謝委員這個議題真的是非常重要那半導體製造的部分呢我們一定在半導體先進製程的研發一定會跟流台灣所以最先進的製程一定是在台灣研究發展進到量產以後我們才會討論\n\n01:27.091 --> 01:46.091\n在友好國家包括美國、日本、德國等等才會去討論說是不是要到國外去設廠那這個事情對雙方都是有利的因為台灣的先進製造技術的研發台灣的效率是最高的\n\n01:46.832 --> 01:54.697\n一到其他的國家不見得很容易可以成功我們台灣一直有這個優勢然後如何繼續保持這樣的優勢其實本席要強調的是說川普未來上任的這個之後的這個位置數其實讓大家都非常的憂心那國科會這邊是我們高階科技的技術的帶領者同時這個基礎的這個科研也是很重要的支持者所以本席希望說針對這個整個國事局勢的這個變化我們相關的單位也要有不同的方案來因應\n\n02:15.011 --> 02:16.351\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n02:43.058 --> 03:07.837\n在有職場霸凌的這樣的事情發生我們如何協助申訴以及對當事人的協助那這個部分我相信主委你也是十分的認同那國科會在11月22號才公布新的職場霸凌防治申訴及處理的這個作業要點在過去我們可能都是用人事總署的這個處理程序在做那現在有新的辦法那我有看了一下國科會這個作業要點其中第五項針對霸凌防治申訴評議會\n\n03:09.458 --> 03:30.755\n國科會這邊是規定了評議委員人數評議委員的來源評議委員的任期以及評議委員的性別比例但是你們沒有訂定外部委員的比例這個部分我會希望說你們這個一定要再檢討我們有看到其他部會在這個霸凌評議小組的這個組成基本上他們都會有規定就是說外部委員這個比例主要是擔憂內部人員他們會有一些壓力\n\n03:33.977 --> 03:49.780\n所以會希望說有一個外部委員這個比例來參與這個評議那所以這個部分我會要求說主管你們回去要研議就是增加外部委員這個比例要提高至少有二分之一這個部分是不是你們回去好好的討論謝謝委員的建議我目前是三分之一啦\n\n03:50.120 --> 04:05.434\n但是我認為提高到二、審查114是比較好而且剛才有委員提到其實最近有收到訊息說你們的同仁有要依循這個新的要點來做霸凌申訴可見內部是真的是有問題的所以這個希望說國會這邊可以好好的處理謝謝\n\n04:09.477 --> 04:23.585\n那接下來呢也是要請教關於精準運課這個問題那主委您過去你自己本身是棒球國手那這次的十二強賽我們有很好的成績相信您自己也覺得非常的開心也很關心那台灣隊的勝利其實\n\n04:25.066 --> 04:25.827\n在10月份的時候金準運科團隊有去法國\n\n04:53.405 --> 05:17.120\n當時副團長是說國家科學會會強調是前瞻的技術及產品真正應用在運動員身上未來包括希望國訓中心及運科中心都應該接著來參與跟國家科學會的精準運科團隊有進一步的合作一起為台灣的運動來努力今天剛好也是司法法制委員會跟教文聯席在主條審查運動部的組織法\n\n05:20.014 --> 05:27.843\n本期這邊就想要知道說我們未來國科會的這個精準運科要如何跟運動部舉運科中心來合作來互動\n\n05:29.220 --> 05:50.454\n謝謝委員這個的確是很好的一個議題國科會過去這幾年來努力在支持精準運動科學的研究但是未來我還會再加強不是只有科學研究還會進到科技是希望能夠跟國家運科中心還有國訓中心未來的這個運動部能夠緊密的結合在一起\n\n05:51.494 --> 05:55.796\n按照委員剛剛講的方向我們會努力前進其實我有一個感受就是說其實我們國科會這邊的精準運科你們做你們自己本身的這些研究相關的這些研究的時候我們跟國訓中心跟運科中心怎麼樣來互動而不是說你們說我們在做那國訓中心也要來參與運科中心也要來參與是說大家怎麼一起來做\n\n06:17.367 --> 06:36.180\n所以我一直強調說之間的互動你們在該怎麼樣去互相合作是,合作就是靠著我們在三年前通過了行政院的一個科技政策就是運動科技所以透過行政院這個運動科技我們在編列科技預算的時候會把這個跨部會會把它結合在一起\n\n06:38.001 --> 06:56.379\n主委您講到了我所要提出的就是跨部會又不是大家是平行單位各做各的因為其實我非常的在意這個所謂的運科知識訓練跟這個應該要來普及化全民化那國科會這邊也應該要思考說未來的走向持續經濟因為運科不是只有運動員的運科它是全民的運科但我們該如何把這樣的訓練知識訓練的這些相關的來做一個普及\n\n07:02.705 --> 07:07.849\n第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案\n\n07:23.001 --> 07:48.111\n好,那因為剛剛裴宇提到的這個問題其實我本來想說我今天準備的主題不是在這邊但是我還是要呼應一下我們做這些運科的這些相關的這個研究的時候我們其實要考慮到的層面其實很多那尤其剛剛裴宇提到的這樣的方式其實對運動員反而是一種傷害是所以我們如果既然有這樣的情勢發生我也希望說主委你們這個一定要很嚴肅的去面對這樣的問題去解決這樣的問題\n\n07:49.992 --> 08:04.855\n是,我們會調查,而且將來我們還會再宣告讓所有的執行這些計畫的教授們要了解現在這種保護運動員的機制一定要搭配著他們計畫一定要提出來\n\n08:05.356 --> 08:07.778\n關於研究計畫的部分根據國科會的統計資料顯示從2022年開始申請國科會專題計畫的申請件數是逐年的下降2023比2022已經少了1562件佔整體總比的6%\n\n08:24.614 --> 08:26.615\n二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委二、審查2023年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委\n\n08:43.864 --> 09:07.651\n報告委員有兩個因素第一個因素是因為我們現在因為人口老化我們提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中第二個因素是我們現在核定多年期的計畫比較多所以一個計畫是可以執行比較多年所以件數會減少但是沒有影響到教授因為我們的預算增加所以每個計畫的金額其實都一直在提高\n\n09:08.471 --> 09:24.080\n您的意思是說因為是長期的計劃所以短期計劃是減少的可是因為減少的件數真的是非常非常的多我也希望說主委你們這邊應該要對這個部分有一個因應的措施是我們計劃通過率並沒有降低喔沒有降低但是申請的件數少很多阿\n\n09:24.810 --> 09:25.930\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案\n\n","segments":[{"start":2.921,"end":6.85,"text":"新主席請吳主委我們請吳主委上台政委員好"},{"start":10.99,"end":33.797,"text":"各位早安吶 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這個的確是很好的一個議題國科會過去這幾年來努力在支持精準運動科學的研究但是未來我還會再加強不是只有科學研究還會進到科技是希望能夠跟國家運科中心還有國訓中心未來的這個運動部能夠緊密的結合在一起"},{"start":351.494,"end":355.796,"text":"按照委員剛剛講的方向我們會努力前進其實我有一個感受就是說其實我們國科會這邊的精準運科你們做你們自己本身的這些研究相關的這些研究的時候我們跟國訓中心跟運科中心怎麼樣來互動而不是說你們說我們在做那國訓中心也要來參與運科中心也要來參與是說大家怎麼一起來做"},{"start":377.367,"end":396.18,"text":"所以我一直強調說之間的互動你們在該怎麼樣去互相合作是,合作就是靠著我們在三年前通過了行政院的一個科技政策就是運動科技所以透過行政院這個運動科技我們在編列科技預算的時候會把這個跨部會會把它結合在一起"},{"start":398.001,"end":416.379,"text":"主委您講到了我所要提出的就是跨部會又不是大家是平行單位各做各的因為其實我非常的在意這個所謂的運科知識訓練跟這個應該要來普及化全民化那國科會這邊也應該要思考說未來的走向持續經濟因為運科不是只有運動員的運科它是全民的運科但我們該如何把這樣的訓練知識訓練的這些相關的來做一個普及"},{"start":422.705,"end":427.849,"text":"第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案第二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委及所屬單位預算案"},{"start":443.001,"end":468.111,"text":"好,那因為剛剛裴宇提到的這個問題其實我本來想說我今天準備的主題不是在這邊但是我還是要呼應一下我們做這些運科的這些相關的這個研究的時候我們其實要考慮到的層面其實很多那尤其剛剛裴宇提到的這樣的方式其實對運動員反而是一種傷害是所以我們如果既然有這樣的情勢發生我也希望說主委你們這個一定要很嚴肅的去面對這樣的問題去解決這樣的問題"},{"start":469.992,"end":484.855,"text":"是,我們會調查,而且將來我們還會再宣告讓所有的執行這些計畫的教授們要了解現在這種保護運動員的機制一定要搭配著他們計畫一定要提出來"},{"start":485.356,"end":487.778,"text":"關於研究計畫的部分根據國科會的統計資料顯示從2022年開始申請國科會專題計畫的申請件數是逐年的下降2023比2022已經少了1562件佔整體總比的6%"},{"start":504.614,"end":506.615,"text":"二、審查2024年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委二、審查2023年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學及技術委"},{"start":523.864,"end":547.651,"text":"報告委員有兩個因素第一個因素是因為我們現在因為人口老化我們提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中第二個因素是我們現在核定多年期的計畫比較多所以一個計畫是可以執行比較多年所以件數會減少但是沒有影響到教授因為我們的預算增加所以每個計畫的金額其實都一直在提高"},{"start":548.471,"end":564.08,"text":"您的意思是說因為是長期的計劃所以短期計劃是減少的可是因為減少的件數真的是非常非常的多我也希望說主委你們這邊應該要對這個部分有一個因應的措施是我們計劃通過率並沒有降低喔沒有降低但是申請的件數少很多阿"},{"start":564.81,"end":565.93,"text":"二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國家科學技術發展基金附屬單位預算案"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":267,"blocks":[["陳委員秀寳：（9時56分）謝謝主席，請吳主委。"],["主席：請吳主委上臺。"],["吳主任委員誠文：陳委員好。"],["陳委員秀寳：主委早安。主委，美國總統當選人川普即將在明年1月上任，過去川普在競選期間對臺灣的晶片說過一些言論，讓我們現在覺得十分的擔憂，包括可能對臺灣的晶片加稅，或是晶片法案2.0的走向，其中如果還加上限制對中晶片出口，恐怕也會影響到輝達，進而影響到台積電，是不是也會驅使中國專注在中低階的晶片，而影響臺灣晶片的出口？甚至再來會不會要求我們7奈米的先進製程要前進美國？這些種種的擔憂以及限制之下，主委，您認為我們應該要如何來保持我國晶片在國際上的優勢？另外，主委您在採訪中有提到，未來不僅是半導體，也會推動主權AI的發展，也會加強與川普政府合作，本席這邊要請教的是，主委，您預計怎麼合作？合作領域以及合作的強度呢？"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝委員。這個議題真的是非常重要，半導體製造的部分，半導體先進製程的研發一定會根留臺灣，所以最先進的製程一定是在臺灣研究發展，進到量產以後，我們才會討論在友好國家，包含美國、日本、德國等等，才會去討論是不是要到國外去設廠，這個事情對雙方都是有利的，因為先進製程製造技術的研發，臺灣的效率是最高的，移到其他國家不見得很容易可以成功。"],["陳委員秀寳：我們臺灣一直有這個優勢，如何繼續保持這樣的優勢？其實本席要強調的就是川普未來上任之後的未知數讓大家都非常憂心。國科會這邊是我們高階科技技術的帶領者，同時基礎的科研也是很重要的支持者，所以本席希望針對這整個國勢、局勢的變化，我們相關的單位也要有不同的方案來因應。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是。"],["陳委員秀寳：針對這整個變化，我們必須要抓緊所有的脈動，能夠有最快的方式來因應。主委，你應該……"],["吳主任委員誠文：同意。"],["陳委員秀寳：對這個部分你應該也是一樣很關注的。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，非常關注。"],["陳委員秀寳：接下來我要請教，關於國科會針對防治以及杜絕職場霸凌的問題，近日發生的憾事，大家都覺得非常難過，也都非常關心，我們要思考的是未來我們如何不會再有職場霸凌這樣的事情發生，我們如何協助申訴以及對當事人的協助；這個部分，我相信主委你也是十分的認同。國科會在11月22號才公布新的職場霸凌防治申訴及處理作業要點，在過去我們可能都是用人事總處的處理程序在做，現在有新的辦法，我也看了國科會的作業要點，其中第五項針對霸凌防治申訴評議會，國科會有規定評議委員的人數、評議委員的來源、評議委員的任期，以及評議委員的性別比例，但是你們沒有訂定外部委員比例，這個部分我希望你們一定要再檢討。我們看到其他部會有關霸凌評議小組的組成，基本上都有規定外部委員比例，主要是擔憂內部人員會有一些壓力，希望有外部委員的比例來參與評議，所以針對這個部分，我要求主委你們回去要研議，將外部委員的比例提高至少二分之一，這個部分是不是你們回去好好討論？"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，謝謝委員的建議，我們目前是三分之一，但我認為提高到二分之一比較好。"],["陳委員秀寳：希望可以提高，而且剛才也有委員提到，最近有收到訊息說你們的同仁要依循新的要點來進行霸凌申訴，可見內部是真的有問題……"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，我們會處理。"],["陳委員秀寳：希望國科會這邊可以好好處理。"],["吳主任委員誠文：謝謝。"],["陳委員秀寳：接下來要請教有關精準運科的問題。主委您過去本身也是棒球國手，這次十二強賽我們有很好的成績，相信你也覺得非常開心，也很關心。臺灣隊的勝利，其實不只是球員，幕後團隊也是非常重要，包括情蒐，包括訓練、防護以及運動心理師的付出，整個團隊一起努力，才有這樣的好成績。針對訓練部分，過去本席也常常質詢關於精準運科的部分，希望精準運科的成果可以提供給運動員更有效率的訓練，以及更有效率的用具。10月份精準運科團隊有去法國，當時副團長表示國科會會強調把前瞻技術及產品真正運用在運動員身上，未來包括國訓中心、運科中心都應該會接著參與，跟國科會的精準運科團隊有進一步的合作，一起為臺灣的運動來努力。今天剛好司法及法制委員會和教文委員會聯席，要逐條審查運動部組織法，在此本席想要知道，未來國科會的精準運科要如何跟運動部的運科中心合作、互動？"],["吳主任委員誠文：謝謝委員，這的確是很好的一個議題，國科會過去這幾年來，努力在支持精準運動科學的研究，未來我們還會再加強，不是只有科學研究，還會進到科技，希望能跟國家運科中心、國訓中心，以及未來的運動部緊密結合在一起，按照委員剛剛講的方向，我們會努力前進。"],["陳委員秀寳：其實我有一個感受，就是國科會的精準運科本身在做相關研究時，應該思考如何跟國訓中心、運科中心互動，而不是說你們有在做，而國訓中心要來參與，運科中心也要來參與，我覺得應該是大家一起來做，所以我一直強調是彼此之間的互動，請問你們會如何互相合作？"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，合作就是靠著行政院三年前通過的一個科技政策，就是運動科技，透過行政院的運動科技，我們在編列科技預算的時候，會把跨部會結合在一起。"],["陳委員秀寳：主委，您講到了我所要提出的重點，就是跨部會，而不是大家是平行單位，各做各的，其實我非常在意所謂的運科知識、訓練應該要普及化、全民化，國科會應該思考未來的走向持續精進，因為運科不是只有運動員的運科，它也是全民的運科，但我們應該如何把這樣的訓練、知識等相關資訊普及化，這樣才能提升全民運動風氣，國科會針對這個部分應該來思考。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，同意。"],["陳委員秀寳：怎麼跨部會合作？"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，文化部也要進來，沒有錯，就是文化部、運動部，教育部、國科會，還有經濟部的產業發展，會一起來推動。"],["陳委員秀寳：好，因為剛剛培瑜委員提到這個問題，其實我今天準備的主題並不在這邊，但我還是要呼應一下，就是你們在做這些運科相關研究的時候，要考慮到的層面很多，尤其剛剛培瑜委員提到的這樣的方式，其實對運動員反而是一種傷害……"],["吳主任委員誠文：是。"],["陳委員秀寳：既然有這樣的情事發生，希望主委你們真的一定要很嚴肅面對，去解決這樣的問題。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，我們會調查，而且將來我們還會再宣告，讓所有執行這些計畫的教授們了解，保護運動員的機制一定要搭配他們的計畫一起提出來。"],["陳委員秀寳：好，謝謝主委。","接下來我要請教有關於研究計畫的部分。根據國科會統計資料顯示，從2022年開始，國科會專題計畫申請件數是逐年下降，2023比2022少了1,562件，占整體總比的6%；2024又比2023少了2,833件，減少了11.5%，在科技預算逐年增加的情況下，申請國科會專題計畫的數量卻越來越少，這很不合理，主委有沒有發現這樣的現象？你們有沒有分析是什麼原因造成的？"],["吳主任委員誠文：報告委員，有兩個因素，第一個因素，現在人口老化，提計畫的教授人數其實是在減少當中。第二個因素，現在我們核定多年期的計畫比較多，一個計畫可以執行比較多年，所以件數會減少，但這沒有影響到教授，因為我們的預算增加，所以每個計畫的金額其實也都一直在提高。"],["陳委員秀寳：您的意思是說，因為長期計畫，所以短期計畫減少，可是減少的件數真的是非常多，面對這樣的問題，主委應該要有因應措施。"],["吳主任委員誠文：是，我們計畫通過率並沒有降低、沒有降低。"],["陳委員秀寳：但是申請件數少很多啊！"],["吳主任委員誠文：因為人口減少，還有我剛剛講的，多年期計畫增加，所以他不會申請……"],["陳委員秀寳：好，因為主席已經站起來了，針對這個部分，請給我一份報告，謝謝。"],["吳主任委員誠文：好，沒問題，謝謝委員。"],["主席（萬委員美玲）：主委會後再給陳秀寳委員更詳細的報告，謝謝。謝謝陳秀寳委員。","接下來請張雅琳委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":284,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-22-10","speakers":["萬美玲","洪孟楷","柯志恩","林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