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00:03:24,535\n其他部分剛剛委員所提到的我再補充一點就調薪的部分歷來公費助理調薪都依例都比照軍公教調薪的這種方式來辦理目前委員的助理薪資每個月\n\n10\n00:03:27,096 --> 00:03:52,220\n總數是45萬多元那當然注意的話是57萬多元那這部分會比照來做調整那另外委員所垂詢的這個目前的一個媒體上可能有這些霸凌的狀況產生那本院除了定有立法院員工職場霸凌防治與申訴處理作業要連這個部分在助理的部分我們也是適用的\n\n11\n00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,243\n公費助理編列的預算中關於每會期每人的文康活動費的運用資訊好像不是很透明\n\n12\n00:04:09,815 --> 00:04:34,374\n就是說你對於這個相關這個助理的相關的文康活動費的運用他的整個資用的一個情形並沒有跟我們的助理工會做相關的一個討論所以是否未來可以就整個我們相關這些有關於助理的文康活動費或者相關的費用的支出能夠更加的公開\n\n13\n00:04:35,655 --> 00:04:42,973\n把整個運用的一個細項能夠跟助理工會來做充分的討論來符合我們公開透明的原則\n\n14\n00:04:44,520 --> 00:05:10,213\n好,謝謝委員的關心。這個部分有關於公費助理的一個文康活動費的補助的部分那我們都一直以來都是要參照本院職工文康活動的編列跟使用然後按年度來編列公費助理文康活動經費那我們也研擬了補助的一個要點草案那相關的一個事項會後會再與助理公會來做一個研討\n\n15\n00:05:11,934 --> 00:05:34,034\n我想剛才副委員你也同意說我們助理非常的辛苦那現在大概就是一年你剛才講是42萬45萬8千多元那一年如果說把公費的助理的預算如果調升大概21%一年的預算大概會增加多少\n\n16\n00:05:37,066 --> 00:05:42,657\n因為你也肯定說他們很辛苦嘛所以未來他們的待遇有沒有在於調高的可能性\n\n17\n00:05:45,610 --> 00:06:07,741\n這個部分我們﹖有沒有做研擬﹖目前未來可不可以做研擬﹖我想現在物價也一直調漲﹖助理公費的相關的待遇、薪資可不可以我們立法院再編列更多的預算讓我們立法委員能夠更在聘請助理方面能夠有更多的一個待遇來吸收到更好的一個人才\n\n18\n00:06:08,737 --> 00:06:26,431\n有沒有這種可能性,可不可以研擬啊?當然我們當然研擬有沒有是沒有問題啦。是幫我們助理來爭取權益啦。對,今天好像主計總署也有啊。我還是希望說你要去研擬相關可行性的方案。同仁也就這個部分表達一下他的看法,我建議這樣。你說請誰表達?主計總署今天也有。好啊,有沒有來?主計總署有沒有來?那個張專委。好,請專委喔。\n\n19\n00:06:39,892 --> 00:06:47,543\n你知道我的意思啦就是國會的助理公費助理的待遇有沒有調高的可能性學者現在物價的一個調漲\n\n20\n00:06:51,328 --> 00:07:11,567\n因為那個公費助理那個待遇他就是他不是我們主計總處來核定他待遇可不可以調整那如果當然如果待遇他能夠權責機關能夠讓核定他能夠調整的話那當然我們會配合編列預算主計總會配合嗎所以還是要由立法院來研擬可行性\n\n21\n00:07:14,029 --> 00:07:31,277\n副議員,我希望你們盡速釐出可行性的研究提供給我們司法及法制委員會另外對於我們立法院管理的職務宿舍中我們看六成是在審議會退休人員或他的眷屬無常使用\n\n22\n00:07:32,632 --> 00:08:00,038\n並未支付我們相關的租金或管理費這樣的一個情況未來要如何解決因為這樣做是不是會偏離說我們這個宿舍應該支持現職人員職務需要才去配給他宿舍如果你現在那麼多宿舍還是由這些過去審議會的這些相關的人員繼續在就是他的家屬繼續配置會不會背離我們的初衷\n\n23\n00:08:01,457 --> 00:08:25,402\n這個我們定有相關的要點那這個部分我們是不是容請那個中南部辦公室的卿主任來回答跟委員報告這個對眷屬宿舍的保障是在雖然在72年有一個宿舍那個事務管理規則裡面是沒有已經沒有眷屬宿舍可是在74年有做過解釋原來的原來的眷屬是有一個保障所以我們現在有在\n\n24\n00:08:27,522 --> 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--> 00:07.100\n謝謝主席我們請副秘書長麻煩副秘書長\n\n00:11.888 --> 00:36.431\n副委員,我想先就公費助理的議題來詢問你我們看到國會助理是對我們立委問政非常重要的左右手在委員的問政及辦公室的運作都是要靠這些助理給我們充分的協助所以幕僚實際上就是我們委員整個職權行使的延伸\n\n00:37.592 --> 01:05.991\n當然我們在分工上也包羅萬象不管是有跑行程有處理選服行政事務製作質詢稿撰寫相關的談餐研擬法案所以業務是非常的多元所以助理的專業水準高我們的立委的問政的品質水準也會這個相對的提高所以幕僚的性質也就是公費助理的角色\n\n01:07.112 --> 01:07.212\n議員：林思銘\n\n01:24.909 --> 01:38.017\n通常我們這個新鮮人跟這些資深助理會有一定的落差所以關於公費助理的待遇如何進一步的完善我們整個助理的一個\n\n01:39.653 --> 01:58.002\n的流動率如何來降低一個流動率讓人才願意留下來為我們立法院來服務那這部分我想就叫我們的這個啊副秘書長我們也靠最近就是整個80事件所造成的重大職場的不友善的事件\n\n01:59.002 --> 02:28.072\n所以我們立法院是否可以以身作則在公費助理長期處在一個高壓的備障狀態之下能夠關注我們助理的身心健康所以是否能夠打造適時紓壓的友善職場環境來提高助理的續航力在這一部分我們立法院有沒有相關的一些舉措相關的一個友善我們職場環境的一個相關的一個辦法或規定\n\n02:30.317 --> 02:48.113\n謝謝委員的關心,我想公費助理的重要性,剛剛委員所說的那個內容我們都同意,而且非常認同。就委員所垂詢的,有關助理的薪資的編制跟\n\n03:10.548 --> 03:24.535\n其他部分剛剛委員所提到的我再補充一點就調薪的部分歷來公費助理調薪都依例都比照軍公教調薪的這種方式來辦理目前委員的助理薪資每個月\n\n03:27.096 --> 03:52.220\n總數是45萬多元那當然注意的話是57萬多元那這部分會比照來做調整那另外委員所垂詢的這個目前的一個媒體上可能有這些霸凌的狀況產生那本院除了定有立法院員工職場霸凌防治與申訴處理作業要連這個部分在助理的部分我們也是適用的\n\n03:52.680 --> 03:58.243\n公費助理編列的預算中關於每會期每人的文康活動費的運用資訊好像不是很透明\n\n04:09.815 --> 04:34.374\n就是說你對於這個相關這個助理的相關的文康活動費的運用他的整個資用的一個情形並沒有跟我們的助理工會做相關的一個討論所以是否未來可以就整個我們相關這些有關於助理的文康活動費或者相關的費用的支出能夠更加的公開\n\n04:35.655 --> 04:42.973\n把整個運用的一個細項能夠跟助理工會來做充分的討論來符合我們公開透明的原則\n\n04:44.520 --> 05:10.213\n好,謝謝委員的關心。這個部分有關於公費助理的一個文康活動費的補助的部分那我們都一直以來都是要參照本院職工文康活動的編列跟使用然後按年度來編列公費助理文康活動經費那我們也研擬了補助的一個要點草案那相關的一個事項會後會再與助理公會來做一個研討\n\n05:11.934 --> 05:34.034\n我想剛才副委員你也同意說我們助理非常的辛苦那現在大概就是一年你剛才講是42萬45萬8千多元那一年如果說把公費的助理的預算如果調升大概21%一年的預算大概會增加多少\n\n05:37.066 --> 05:42.657\n因為你也肯定說他們很辛苦嘛所以未來他們的待遇有沒有在於調高的可能性\n\n05:45.610 --> 06:07.741\n這個部分我們﹖有沒有做研擬﹖目前未來可不可以做研擬﹖我想現在物價也一直調漲﹖助理公費的相關的待遇、薪資可不可以我們立法院再編列更多的預算讓我們立法委員能夠更在聘請助理方面能夠有更多的一個待遇來吸收到更好的一個人才\n\n06:08.737 --> 06:26.431\n有沒有這種可能性,可不可以研擬啊?當然我們當然研擬有沒有是沒有問題啦。是幫我們助理來爭取權益啦。對,今天好像主計總署也有啊。我還是希望說你要去研擬相關可行性的方案。同仁也就這個部分表達一下他的看法,我建議這樣。你說請誰表達?主計總署今天也有。好啊,有沒有來?主計總署有沒有來?那個張專委。好,請專委喔。\n\n06:39.892 --> 06:47.543\n你知道我的意思啦就是國會的助理公費助理的待遇有沒有調高的可能性學者現在物價的一個調漲\n\n06:51.328 --> 07:11.567\n因為那個公費助理那個待遇他就是他不是我們主計總處來核定他待遇可不可以調整那如果當然如果待遇他能夠權責機關能夠讓核定他能夠調整的話那當然我們會配合編列預算主計總會配合嗎所以還是要由立法院來研擬可行性\n\n07:14.029 --> 07:31.277\n副議員,我希望你們盡速釐出可行性的研究提供給我們司法及法制委員會另外對於我們立法院管理的職務宿舍中我們看六成是在審議會退休人員或他的眷屬無常使用\n\n07:32.632 --> 08:00.038\n並未支付我們相關的租金或管理費這樣的一個情況未來要如何解決因為這樣做是不是會偏離說我們這個宿舍應該支持現職人員職務需要才去配給他宿舍如果你現在那麼多宿舍還是由這些過去審議會的這些相關的人員繼續在就是他的家屬繼續配置會不會背離我們的初衷\n\n08:01.457 --> 08:25.402\n這個我們定有相關的要點那這個部分我們是不是容請那個中南部辦公室的卿主任來回答跟委員報告這個對眷屬宿舍的保障是在雖然在72年有一個宿舍那個事務管理規則裡面是沒有已經沒有眷屬宿舍可是在74年有做過解釋原來的原來的眷屬是有一個保障所以我們現在有在\n\n08:27.522 --> 08:49.987\n民主議政園區里面還有36戶的住宿宿舍那現在因為經過時間的遞移的話我們現在現存有24戶那24戶奇怪的我們因為全部有72戶那我們現在也在做一些活化的計畫那我們因為他是公共財產不能夠委託經營所以我們跟國產署也有個共識可以用出產法的方式來對這個宿舍做一個活化的利用\n\n08:51.993 --> 09:10.645\n對當然要活化利用我們都很贊同我是說現在是不是有這種就無償提供給這些家屬繼續使用收不回來的情形我因為是法定就是立法院行政院在這個部分有一個解釋函他對我們現在現存24戶他有個保障是對所以對他們有一個保障對是是OK好\n\n09:13.803 --> 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