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00:02:40,005\n第一點在總統選舉的時候有關於吳欣盈候選人的國籍的部分中選會沒有擺爛沒有裝死而且是發函請外交部幫我們所以因為我們是台灣事實查核中心網站公布我們很認真很詳細的來審查他的資格他的參選的資格是沒有問題的\n\n7\n00:02:49,711 --> 00:02:52,294\n剛才我問的問題所以說是不是說我們陸配要在臺灣設籍滿10年才能登記嘛對不對是啊所以呢反而來說就是他們是只要在臺灣有設戶籍10年以上他就符合資格嘛\n\n8\n00:03:09,793 --> 00:03:11,415\n公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條公職人員選舉罷免法\n\n9\n00:03:25,856 --> 00:03:29,278\n但是我們外配就用任外的法例所以只要在台灣有戶籍十年以上就符合資格如果你覺得說陸配還是外配拿身分證辦理是一致的話所以如果一致的話我們外配的父母是不是也可以跟陸配一樣可以定居台灣\n\n10\n00:03:51,380 --> 00:04:00,884\n委員會給你報告這個問題牽涉到三個機關三部法律第一個機關第一個機關是中選會牽涉到的法律是選罷法第二個機關是陸委會牽涉到的法律是兩岸人民代替條例第三個機關是內政部牽涉到的是國際法所以你要全盤的看才能夠\n\n11\n00:04:21,272 --> 00:04:24,433\n你只要回答你的責任範圍,你管不到他們,他們有回答他們的範圍,不用你再去解釋。然後第二個聽我講完,因為時間的關係,剛剛主委的報告說有提到114年的預算實施計畫中有幾大重點,其中有電腦系統\n\n12\n00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:46,621\n標準的驗證加強選舉人員的專業知識以落實的宅法案件。那是我們知道中選會的業務還有就是在集中除了大選之外每年的執行業務狀況都差不多啦所以請教主委在我們中選會113年的業務執行的狀況你覺得你滿意嗎?\n\n13\n00:05:12,008 --> 00:05:30,786\n一、一三年的部分一、一三年我們最重要的一個選舉就是總統、總統、副總統所以說你滿意嗎我滿意我們通常都相當的盡心盡力除了選務之外事情都沒有做好幫你回饋一下哪一點沒有做好請委員指教\n\n14\n00:05:31,506 --> 00:05:41,316\n來你自己看所以確實有很多地方沒有做好還有就是電子選舉與專業知識的方面要加強比如說我們罷免與公投投票是不是是我們公民參政與選舉的權利\n\n15\n00:05:52,287 --> 00:05:55,049\n非常重要非常重要的一份如果是的話為何兩個系統罷免連署系統還有公投連署系統從107年到現在只有公投連署系統在4月上線罷免連署系統到現在都沒有辦法上線使用但是呢但是還編列了149萬維護費\n\n16\n00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:29,136\n請教一下這樣子都沒有上線還要去編列線上的維護費的使用但是呢我們現在就是我們的公投的系統\n\n17\n00:06:40,365 --> 00:06:45,509\n審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計六案．計七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．\n\n18\n00:07:07,859 --> 00:07:21,534\n二、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。三、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。四、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。\n\n19\n00:07:25,518 --> 00:07:30,102\n公投不會連署了嗎?上線你沒有編列維護費,所以這個機器你已經遮蔽好了,你不用再維護了。但是我們沒有看到你的預算啊,那你預算的是編列維護罷免系統。公投的罷免系統你沒有編列,表示你遮蔽已經沒有問題了,是嗎?\n\n20\n00:07:51,562 --> 00:07:54,604\n我們有編列維護費,同時公投的這個聯署系統在已經上線了。我們隨時都要第一面準備。但是我們看到你們的預算裡面沒有編列這個預算。所以表示你覺得說我們明年不會,你預測到了。還是說你們覺得他的\n\n21\n00:08:15,939 --> 00:08:17,299\n二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。\n\n22\n00:08:40,366 --> 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對嗎\n是就參選的資格是由中選會來審查對嘛參選的資格對啊對嘛所以說你才公告嘛是不是對但是已經被中選會正式列為選舉公道上的候選人資格也得到中選會的認證了請問為什麼候選人被公級資格不符的之後中選會不會願意出來澄清呢\n所以說中選會主委做事情都不用負責任嗎?中選會只管到參選的資格所以資格登記後你是負責認證、符合嘛你才公報的嘛,是不是?至於當選之後他的就職相關的規定還有其他法律的規範那就不是中選會管的\n二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計六案．計七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．\n副總統候選人吳欣儀女士也被攻擊雙重國籍的時候中選會也是說擺爛裝死然後事件發生台灣事實證明這個網站澄清後依據兩岸人民關係條例陸配必須取得身份證後還要在台灣涉及滿十年才能登記成為公職候選人擁有公職的資格對嗎\n第一點在總統選舉的時候有關於吳欣盈候選人的國籍的部分中選會沒有擺爛沒有裝死而且是發函請外交部幫我們所以因為我們是台灣事實查核中心網站公布我們很認真很詳細的來審查他的資格他的參選的資格是沒有問題的\n剛才我問的問題所以說是不是說我們陸配要在臺灣設籍滿10年才能登記嘛對不對是啊所以呢反而來說就是他們是只要在臺灣有設戶籍10年以上他就符合資格嘛\n公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條公職人員選舉罷免法\n但是我們外配就用任外的法例所以只要在台灣有戶籍十年以上就符合資格如果你覺得說陸配還是外配拿身分證辦理是一致的話所以如果一致的話我們外配的父母是不是也可以跟陸配一樣可以定居台灣\n委員會給你報告這個問題牽涉到三個機關三部法律第一個機關第一個機關是中選會牽涉到的法律是選罷法第二個機關是陸委會牽涉到的法律是兩岸人民代替條例第三個機關是內政部牽涉到的是國際法所以你要全盤的看才能夠\n你只要回答你的責任範圍,你管不到他們,他們有回答他們的範圍,不用你再去解釋。然後第二個聽我講完,因為時間的關係,剛剛主委的報告說有提到114年的預算實施計畫中有幾大重點,其中有電腦系統\n標準的驗證加強選舉人員的專業知識以落實的宅法案件。那是我們知道中選會的業務還有就是在集中除了大選之外每年的執行業務狀況都差不多啦所以請教主委在我們中選會113年的業務執行的狀況你覺得你滿意嗎?\n一、一三年的部分一、一三年我們最重要的一個選舉就是總統、總統、副總統所以說你滿意嗎我滿意我們通常都相當的盡心盡力除了選務之外事情都沒有做好幫你回饋一下哪一點沒有做好請委員指教\n來你自己看所以確實有很多地方沒有做好還有就是電子選舉與專業知識的方面要加強比如說我們罷免與公投投票是不是是我們公民參政與選舉的權利\n非常重要非常重要的一份如果是的話為何兩個系統罷免連署系統還有公投連署系統從107年到現在只有公投連署系統在4月上線罷免連署系統到現在都沒有辦法上線使用但是呢但是還編列了149萬維護費\n請教一下這樣子都沒有上線還要去編列線上的維護費的使用但是呢我們現在就是我們的公投的系統\n審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計六案．計七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．\n二、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。三、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。四、審查委員堅持公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。\n公投不會連署了嗎?上線你沒有編列維護費,所以這個機器你已經遮蔽好了,你不用再維護了。但是我們沒有看到你的預算啊,那你預算的是編列維護罷免系統。公投的罷免系統你沒有編列,表示你遮蔽已經沒有問題了,是嗎?\n我們有編列維護費,同時公投的這個聯署系統在已經上線了。我們隨時都要第一面準備。但是我們看到你們的預算裡面沒有編列這個預算。所以表示你覺得說我們明年不會,你預測到了。還是說你們覺得他的\n二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。\n共討的系統沒有編列維護費,所以這個才是我們覺得是有問題的。希望你就是提出一個書面報告,因為我們看到的沒有,所以我們這個費用就可以去調調。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.366 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03:29.278\n但是我們外配就用任外的法例所以只要在台灣有戶籍十年以上就符合資格如果你覺得說陸配還是外配拿身分證辦理是一致的話所以如果一致的話我們外配的父母是不是也可以跟陸配一樣可以定居台灣\n\n03:51.380 --> 04:00.884\n委員會給你報告這個問題牽涉到三個機關三部法律第一個機關第一個機關是中選會牽涉到的法律是選罷法第二個機關是陸委會牽涉到的法律是兩岸人民代替條例第三個機關是內政部牽涉到的是國際法所以你要全盤的看才能夠\n\n04:21.272 --> 04:24.433\n你只要回答你的責任範圍,你管不到他們,他們有回答他們的範圍,不用你再去解釋。然後第二個聽我講完,因為時間的關係,剛剛主委的報告說有提到114年的預算實施計畫中有幾大重點,其中有電腦系統\n\n04:43.220 --> 04:46.621\n標準的驗證加強選舉人員的專業知識以落實的宅法案件。那是我們知道中選會的業務還有就是在集中除了大選之外每年的執行業務狀況都差不多啦所以請教主委在我們中選會113年的業務執行的狀況你覺得你滿意嗎?\n\n05:12.008 --> 05:30.786\n一、一三年的部分一、一三年我們最重要的一個選舉就是總統、總統、副總統所以說你滿意嗎我滿意我們通常都相當的盡心盡力除了選務之外事情都沒有做好幫你回饋一下哪一點沒有做好請委員指教\n\n05:31.506 --> 05:41.316\n來你自己看所以確實有很多地方沒有做好還有就是電子選舉與專業知識的方面要加強比如說我們罷免與公投投票是不是是我們公民參政與選舉的權利\n\n05:52.287 --> 05:55.049\n非常重要非常重要的一份如果是的話為何兩個系統罷免連署系統還有公投連署系統從107年到現在只有公投連署系統在4月上線罷免連署系統到現在都沒有辦法上線使用但是呢但是還編列了149萬維護費\n\n06:22.550 --> 06:29.136\n請教一下這樣子都沒有上線還要去編列線上的維護費的使用但是呢我們現在就是我們的公投的系統\n\n06:40.365 --> 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