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00:03:13,943\n現在就已經在宣傳年屬要罷免無配一、罷免無私養了所以這個可能會需要討論一下但是我還是要說即使我現在被指定國民黨臺北市黨部主委下令動員令我們全區國民黨籍的里長要開始來動員準備明年罷免無配一即使如此我也不贊成國民黨這個修法版本\n\n9\n00:03:18,939 --> 00:03:36,287\n因為我們還是要來捍衛人民的罷免權這是憲法賦予人民的權利因為我們作為立法委員很重要一點在修法的時候要利益迴避我們修法是為了扶國利民不能今天說因為我吳佩儀要來被罷免了我趕快來修法說一年之內你們不能宣傳不可以這個樣子\n\n10\n00:03:42,011 --> 00:03:47,894\n人家要罷免我們,這是民眾的權利,我們能做的是什麼?我們要更加努力。我這邊直接講嘛,國民黨你黃綠緊綠,你對中正惡華你付出什麼?\n\n11\n00:03:52,233 --> 00:04:03,062\n我的付出努力是他們的一千倍、一萬倍,所以對自己方有信心。我們要更加努力為民服務,爭取民眾的認同,不是在立法院搞修法、修惡法、內修、沒收民眾的人民罷免權。這是立委的權利、責任,還有蘇清泉委員的版本,同樣也是一個自私之力的修法,因為蘇清泉委員在評論會選舉的時候,\n\n12\n00:04:17,234 --> 00:04:36,381\n蘇爾當時想要驗票但是驗票按照現在法規只有千分之三的這個規定嘛所以當時不符合法規所以現在他修法說要放寬千分之三不夠放寬到千分之十這通通都是為了自私利己的修法立委不可以這個樣子所以我希望我們在場所有不分黨派各位立法院的同仁們\n\n13\n00:04:37,421 --> 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