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00:02:42,808\n對,因為就是說要選擇遊輪的這樣子的一個旅行我想不是說短期決定的一定也是經過長期的一個籌劃有可能三個月或半年可是就偏偏遇到這樣子的一個故障的一個少性的事件然後整個行程都泡湯了所以我想就是說在之後的旅客的權宜部分還有善後的部分我們也希望交通部這邊要給予旅客最大的一個協助\n\n8\n00:02:43,508 --> 00:03:03,502\n在一開始我們就跟船公司講過還有旅行社也講過就是說旅客的權益是很重要的所以他們很快也就把他們的補償的方案就提出來了對旅客也做了說明那後續再回來臺灣之後如果還有需要求償或者是需要船公司補償的部分這個部分我們會協助來協商\n\n9\n00:03:06,005 --> 00:03:29,195\n那我想這個郵輪對我們臺灣就是國家的這個觀光也是有很大的一個注意那就是這艘榮耀號是以這個基隆港為母港那不曉得說還有其他郵輪以臺灣的港口為母港嗎應該蠻多的是不是請港務公司好不好蠻多的\n\n10\n00:03:32,136 --> 00:03:39,480\n除了基隆以外,高雄還有明年的12月18號,還有明年的4月5號,116年的1月8號,台中有三艘這是哪一個國籍的?榮耀號是瑞士嗎?\n\n11\n00:03:57,276 --> 00:03:59,738\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n12\n00:04:24,855 --> 00:04:50,521\n是好那我想這個也是一個好消息然後可以讓我們就是國人在旅遊的時候有一個比較多的一個選擇那剛剛部長在做業務報告的時候我有聽到部長就是說在這個航港這個港務的業務上的政策希望強化臺灣為亞洲航運的中心嗎是這樣子嗎是是貨運的部分我們希望能夠成為臺灣的航運中心\n\n13\n00:04:53,063 --> 00:05:18,742\n貨運的部分因為其實以地理位置來講臺灣就是整個亞太地區一個在地理上本來就是一個航行的一個很重要的一個位置地理位置也是一個戰略的位置那我們也看到就是說前幾天也有發生一個事件就是說有記者這個是媒體記者爆料說有一艘船曾經參與就是\n\n14\n00:05:20,643 --> 00:05:21,706\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n15\n00:05:28,536 --> 00:05:57,655\n有掌握這個訊息嗎?有掌握這個訊息這艘船也已經離開台中港了那當時他也是依照香港法是第7條嗎?第7條的規定讓他合法停靠當時是跟他合法停靠但現在大家在討論這個議題我認為這個部分我們應該要去洽國安單位跟國安單位來協商如果說未來有參加過解放軍的演習的船隻如果不適合停靠在臺灣的港口那這個部分或許要進行修法\n\n16\n00:05:58,506 --> 00:05:59,347\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n17\n00:06:17,316 --> 00:06:17,957\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n18\n00:06:36,818 --> 00:06:57,935\n他在進來的時候他有跟我們報備那目前查出來就是說他主要是以零件為主零件為主的話我們那個由那個航港局這邊認為說沒有什麼問題我們在所以我們沒有登船去檢查我們只是書面檢查是這樣嗎是船代他提出來所以這樣子真的是非常危險耶\n\n19\n00:06:59,116 --> 00:07:02,278\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務\n\n20\n00:07:20,255 --> 00:07:34,371\n這個部分確實如果說大家覺得未來應該要更嚴格檢視的話我們會跟國安單位來討論這個議題如果國安單位那邊也認為說未來針對這一類的船隻必須要做不一樣的檢查那我們就會做不一樣的檢查\n\n21\n00:07:34,571 --> 00:07:49,456\n對我覺得這部分一定是要的那再來最後一個問題就是有關我們這個智慧航安的部分也是我們就是在這個港務航運務的部分一個很重要的一個重點\n\n22\n00:07:50,276 --> 00:07:56,458\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n23\n00:08:20,712 --> 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那你們也要成立智慧航岸推動辦公室嘛那這個進度目前如何\n586212\t590413\t三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n","txt":"謝謝主席,請主席邀請陳部長、葉局長、李董事長\n部長早,本席在這邊首先也要關心一下這個榮耀號郵輪我們知道地中海榮耀號是亞太地區最大噸位的郵輪今年首度以基隆港為母港採取基隆納坝雙母港的模式來營運這次發生就是說在12月4號的這個航次在搭載了4000\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n報告委員這個部分我們有跟船公司也都協商過那船公司其實事先的宣導有做那他們也有跟旅客做聯繫有跟旅客做聯繫那他們盡量確保大部分的旅客都有聯繫到但必然有一些沒有聯繫到的他們也都有派人在基隆港也就是說有旅客沒有接到訊息所以來到基隆港那他們就要跟他解釋清楚解說清楚這個部分其實我們在第一時間都有要求那個船公司必須要做這些動作\n對,因為就是說要選擇遊輪的這樣子的一個旅行我想不是說短期決定的一定也是經過長期的一個籌劃有可能三個月或半年可是就偏偏遇到這樣子的一個故障的一個少性的事件然後整個行程都泡湯了所以我想就是說在之後的旅客的權宜部分還有善後的部分我們也希望交通部這邊要給予旅客最大的一個協助\n在一開始我們就跟船公司講過還有旅行社也講過就是說旅客的權益是很重要的所以他們很快也就把他們的補償的方案就提出來了對旅客也做了說明那後續再回來臺灣之後如果還有需要求償或者是需要船公司補償的部分這個部分我們會協助來協商\n那我想這個郵輪對我們臺灣就是國家的這個觀光也是有很大的一個注意那就是這艘榮耀號是以這個基隆港為母港那不曉得說還有其他郵輪以臺灣的港口為母港嗎應該蠻多的是不是請港務公司好不好蠻多的\n除了基隆以外,高雄還有明年的12月18號,還有明年的4月5號,116年的1月8號,台中有三艘這是哪一個國籍的?榮耀號是瑞士嗎?\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n是好那我想這個也是一個好消息然後可以讓我們就是國人在旅遊的時候有一個比較多的一個選擇那剛剛部長在做業務報告的時候我有聽到部長就是說在這個航港這個港務的業務上的政策希望強化臺灣為亞洲航運的中心嗎是這樣子嗎是是貨運的部分我們希望能夠成為臺灣的航運中心\n貨運的部分因為其實以地理位置來講臺灣就是整個亞太地區一個在地理上本來就是一個航行的一個很重要的一個位置地理位置也是一個戰略的位置那我們也看到就是說前幾天也有發生一個事件就是說有記者這個是媒體記者爆料說有一艘船曾經參與就是\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n有掌握這個訊息嗎?有掌握這個訊息這艘船也已經離開台中港了那當時他也是依照香港法是第7條嗎?第7條的規定讓他合法停靠當時是跟他合法停靠但現在大家在討論這個議題我認為這個部分我們應該要去洽國安單位跟國安單位來協商如果說未來有參加過解放軍的演習的船隻如果不適合停靠在臺灣的港口那這個部分或許要進行修法\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n他在進來的時候他有跟我們報備那目前查出來就是說他主要是以零件為主零件為主的話我們那個由那個航港局這邊認為說沒有什麼問題我們在所以我們沒有登船去檢查我們只是書面檢查是這樣嗎是船代他提出來所以這樣子真的是非常危險耶\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務\n這個部分確實如果說大家覺得未來應該要更嚴格檢視的話我們會跟國安單位來討論這個議題如果國安單位那邊也認為說未來針對這一類的船隻必須要做不一樣的檢查那我們就會做不一樣的檢查\n對我覺得這部分一定是要的那再來最後一個問題就是有關我們這個智慧航安的部分也是我們就是在這個港務航運務的部分一個很重要的一個重點\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n那謝謝委員那特別跟委員報告2.0的部分第一個重點就是我們要擴大我們的VTS監控這個風場的範圍把現在的673平方公里大幅增加到4000平方公里因為我們西部的這個西北域的海域呢會依照能源局的規劃會大幅增加這個風場的範圍那為了確保航港我們要把整個監控的範圍擴大\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n如果有狀況的時候備援系統一定要馬上能夠接得起來所以要強化我們航岸的一個韌性那其次最後一個就是航路標識管理系統的一個建制我們要掌握全國的航路標識管理系統能夠有效的進行監督跟管理主要的這個重點當然是這四大部分好 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03:29.195\n那我想這個郵輪對我們臺灣就是國家的這個觀光也是有很大的一個注意那就是這艘榮耀號是以這個基隆港為母港那不曉得說還有其他郵輪以臺灣的港口為母港嗎應該蠻多的是不是請港務公司好不好蠻多的\n\n03:32.136 --> 03:39.480\n除了基隆以外,高雄還有明年的12月18號,還有明年的4月5號,116年的1月8號,台中有三艘這是哪一個國籍的?榮耀號是瑞士嗎?\n\n03:57.276 --> 03:59.738\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n04:24.855 --> 04:50.521\n是好那我想這個也是一個好消息然後可以讓我們就是國人在旅遊的時候有一個比較多的一個選擇那剛剛部長在做業務報告的時候我有聽到部長就是說在這個航港這個港務的業務上的政策希望強化臺灣為亞洲航運的中心嗎是這樣子嗎是是貨運的部分我們希望能夠成為臺灣的航運中心\n\n04:53.063 --> 05:18.742\n貨運的部分因為其實以地理位置來講臺灣就是整個亞太地區一個在地理上本來就是一個航行的一個很重要的一個位置地理位置也是一個戰略的位置那我們也看到就是說前幾天也有發生一個事件就是說有記者這個是媒體記者爆料說有一艘船曾經參與就是\n\n05:20.643 --> 05:21.706\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n05:28.536 --> 05:57.655\n有掌握這個訊息嗎?有掌握這個訊息這艘船也已經離開台中港了那當時他也是依照香港法是第7條嗎?第7條的規定讓他合法停靠當時是跟他合法停靠但現在大家在討論這個議題我認為這個部分我們應該要去洽國安單位跟國安單位來協商如果說未來有參加過解放軍的演習的船隻如果不適合停靠在臺灣的港口那這個部分或許要進行修法\n\n05:58.506 --> 05:59.347\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n06:17.316 --> 06:17.957\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n06:36.818 --> 06:57.935\n他在進來的時候他有跟我們報備那目前查出來就是說他主要是以零件為主零件為主的話我們那個由那個航港局這邊認為說沒有什麼問題我們在所以我們沒有登船去檢查我們只是書面檢查是這樣嗎是船代他提出來所以這樣子真的是非常危險耶\n\n06:59.116 --> 07:02.278\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務\n\n07:20.255 --> 07:34.371\n這個部分確實如果說大家覺得未來應該要更嚴格檢視的話我們會跟國安單位來討論這個議題如果國安單位那邊也認為說未來針對這一類的船隻必須要做不一樣的檢查那我們就會做不一樣的檢查\n\n07:34.571 --> 07:49.456\n對我覺得這部分一定是要的那再來最後一個問題就是有關我們這個智慧航安的部分也是我們就是在這個港務航運務的部分一個很重要的一個重點\n\n07:50.276 --> 07:56.458\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n08:20.712 --> 08:42.580\n那謝謝委員那特別跟委員報告2.0的部分第一個重點就是我們要擴大我們的VTS監控這個風場的範圍把現在的673平方公里大幅增加到4000平方公里因為我們西部的這個西北域的海域呢會依照能源局的規劃會大幅增加這個風場的範圍那為了確保航港我們要把整個監控的範圍擴大\n\n08:44.080 --> 08:44.880\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n09:00.646 --> 09:03.387\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n09:22.256 --> 09:45.872\n如果有狀況的時候備援系統一定要馬上能夠接得起來所以要強化我們航岸的一個韌性那其次最後一個就是航路標識管理系統的一個建制我們要掌握全國的航路標識管理系統能夠有效的進行監督跟管理主要的這個重點當然是這四大部分好那你們也要成立智慧航岸推動辦公室嘛那這個進度目前如何\n\n09:46.212 --> 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