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00:02:34,024\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n8\n00:02:51,571 --> 00:03:16,270\n一方面我們的觀光署其實很積極在推動一些行銷啦最近在日本有很多的行銷方案那也確實有看到了效果這一兩個月他們成長的速度蠻快那還有委員其實您提供的這個數據我們也看得出來美國已經排到我們的第四啦其實我們這段時間在歐跟美歐洲跟美洲的這個各國來的這個旅客其實增加的速度也都還蠻快的\n\n9\n00:03:17,571 --> 00:03:19,572\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n10\n00:03:30,661 --> 00:03:32,863\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n11\n00:03:50,843 --> 00:04:05,417\n報告委員這只有兩種結果這個立法院要幫人民勘解荷包嘛只有兩種結果嘛對不對第一個你要更努力趕快把人找進來對不對旅客多一點第一個再沒有績效再不好那一定是砍掉預算嘛是不是只有這兩個\n\n12\n00:04:06,438 --> 00:04:33,522\n報告員其實你所看到這些預算不是只有在對外來招攬客人其實在我們國內很多的旅遊性的建設都是由這些基金跟預算來處理的來建設的所以其實你不要看說國外的旅客怎麼樣我們在國內包含我來自中部我們的山山管理處要做獅頭山要做八卦山要做梨山其實我們地方很多的觀光景點的建設也都是用這方面的預算\n\n13\n00:04:34,582 --> 00:04:52,208\n這個不是只有看到國外的旅客的部分那也跟委員報告其實連續這三年國外來臺的旅客是一直在增加的不過增加的速度沒有恢復到疫情之前的水準這是事實但今年的人數比去年還多去年是649萬我剛有跟委員報告我們在12月3號臺灣的來臺觀光人數已經突破700萬已經比去年還高\n\n14\n00:04:59,950 --> 00:05:00,931\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n15\n00:05:27,230 --> 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