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00:00:48,764\n報告委員我們也很希望中國的觀光客可以多一些來臺灣就交通部的立場是非常的歡迎那我所知道的是我們的對岸其實有些政治上面的限制那我們也是其實有呼籲過我們的對岸是不是可以把政治的限制可以把它解開因為臺灣的人民要去任何一個地方旅遊其實都很自由\n\n3\n00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:56,186\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n4\n00:01:07,951 --> 00:01:32,729\n本期還是認為其實目前普遍的民眾還是認為其實過去馬英九執政時期的時候那像兩岸的這個交流包括中國大陸人士來臺的這個部分那其實是非常的多人的啦所以那時候不管是在全台各地包括南投日月潭還都是有非常好的觀光榮景那在這個政策上面的溝通我覺得那當然是\n\n5\n00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:35,211\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n6\n00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:26,056\n那同時就是在這一段期間的話我們看到這個南韓他們這個戒嚴的這個之亂那我們當然在以臺灣跟南韓的一個交情跟互動那我們當然都希望南韓他們都能夠平平安安那我們大家其實都是有很好的情誼那所以當然我們都不會去挺戒嚴那同樣的就是說在以交通跟觀光的面向來講許多民眾就在思考\n\n7\n00:02:26,696 --> 00:02:48,938\n如何在這段期間交通部或是觀光署能夠祭俗一些方案因為大家現在覺得可能南韓去旅遊有疑慮的過程中那如何能夠讓亞洲這些國家能夠在這段期間能夠多多吸引來臺灣旅遊觀光那我想問一下這個部分應該部長也有思考過那這個方案怎麼樣\n\n8\n00:02:50,203 --> 00:03:15,948\n報告委員其實我們在亞洲各國的這個招攬或者是吸引國外的遊客來臺灣的部分其實都一直在做努力包含從您剛剛所提到的南韓我們也做了很多的努力找代言人辦活動等等之類的或參加旅展在日本也是一樣那所以這段時間當然有些旅客國際的旅客對於南韓可能有一些擔心那我們也希望說如果亞洲反正也都很近可以來臺灣是最好的\n\n9\n00:03:17,048 --> 00:03:45,345\n有沒有什麼特別的方案或在這段時間來去做一些觀光宣傳的加強報告委員您這樣提醒的話我就趕快跟觀光署來討論一下看怎麼樣在這段時間來就鄰近的國家我們要用什麼樣的方式來迎客那我在想就是部長還是把這個討論的情況到時候也來做一個說明因為我在想這個次期來臺的這個觀光人次也是你的目標那也是大家眾所期待\n\n10\n00:03:46,246 --> 00:04:01,012\n那接下來的話本席針對日月潭電動船補助的部分那也想請等一下航港局長來一起說明一下那當然我知道部長上個禮拜才來南投日月潭參加環發經營車賽的這個運動\n\n11\n00:04:03,353 --> 00:04:04,354\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n12\n00:04:20,186 --> 00:04:21,086\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n13\n00:04:40,251 --> 00:04:45,595\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n14\n00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:07,554\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n15\n00:05:21,471 --> 00:05:39,397\n目前這個目標我們還在調查這個設定當中那這邊日月潭的部分我們也跟觀光署這邊積極的在合作那日管處這邊原來就定有這個相關的補助要點那也持續在推動中\n\n16\n00:05:40,077 --> 00:05:51,461\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n17\n00:06:08,587 --> 00:06:34,646\n好那局長我在這邊直接跟您確認就是在過去的話其實是日管處在負責這個中端但是其實日管處該負責的應該是觀光發展那而船舶的部分在這次也已經確定由航港局來做主責那在這一個船舶補助的部分那在這次補助確定能夠讓業者是能夠積極推動這個船舶自動化的更新是在這個49%的這個標準是可以嗎\n\n18\n00:06:37,150 --> 00:06:56,224\n現在就是說日月潭的部分我想我們會再跟觀光署溝通是不是併進來我們的這個整體的計畫?原理上的話應該是要由航港局來去做這個船舶補助比較適當那再來日月潭那個風管處那邊應該是在於觀光人口的引進\n\n19\n00:06:57,005 --> 00:07:02,049\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n20\n00:07:15,979 --> 00:07:19,501\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。\n\n21\n00:07:45,694 --> 00:08:00,956\n所以說這個部分要跟業者重分溝通也同時政府情況要祭出誘因所以說在剛才的部分還沒有回答到預期明年度能夠溝通多少能夠達到更新那這樣子所設定的補助跟預算這樣子等於是沒有達到實際的效果\n\n22\n00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:23,058\n那本局在這裡還是再次強調就是航港局也要再跟這個包括產發署以及包括能源局還有包括環保環境部那來去做一個溝通因為在今年的行政措施計畫管考建議的部分那環境部相關計畫一致來達到配合推動這個包括船舶自動化的相關補助\n\n23\n00:08:24,139 --> 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--> 00:05.389\n大陸人人事來臺觀光少了差不多其實將近九成那這個部分部長是不是回應這個是政策性的問題\n\n00:28.102 --> 00:48.764\n報告委員我們也很希望中國的觀光客可以多一些來臺灣就交通部的立場是非常的歡迎那我所知道的是我們的對岸其實有些政治上面的限制那我們也是其實有呼籲過我們的對岸是不是可以把政治的限制可以把它解開因為臺灣的人民要去任何一個地方旅遊其實都很自由\n\n00:49.184 --> 00:56.186\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n01:07.951 --> 01:32.729\n本期還是認為其實目前普遍的民眾還是認為其實過去馬英九執政時期的時候那像兩岸的這個交流包括中國大陸人士來臺的這個部分那其實是非常的多人的啦所以那時候不管是在全台各地包括南投日月潭還都是有非常好的觀光榮景那在這個政策上面的溝通我覺得那當然是\n\n01:33.570 --> 01:35.211\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n01:56.840 --> 02:26.056\n那同時就是在這一段期間的話我們看到這個南韓他們這個戒嚴的這個之亂那我們當然在以臺灣跟南韓的一個交情跟互動那我們當然都希望南韓他們都能夠平平安安那我們大家其實都是有很好的情誼那所以當然我們都不會去挺戒嚴那同樣的就是說在以交通跟觀光的面向來講許多民眾就在思考\n\n02:26.696 --> 02:48.938\n如何在這段期間交通部或是觀光署能夠祭俗一些方案因為大家現在覺得可能南韓去旅遊有疑慮的過程中那如何能夠讓亞洲這些國家能夠在這段期間能夠多多吸引來臺灣旅遊觀光那我想問一下這個部分應該部長也有思考過那這個方案怎麼樣\n\n02:50.203 --> 03:15.948\n報告委員其實我們在亞洲各國的這個招攬或者是吸引國外的遊客來臺灣的部分其實都一直在做努力包含從您剛剛所提到的南韓我們也做了很多的努力找代言人辦活動等等之類的或參加旅展在日本也是一樣那所以這段時間當然有些旅客國際的旅客對於南韓可能有一些擔心那我們也希望說如果亞洲反正也都很近可以來臺灣是最好的\n\n03:17.048 --> 03:45.345\n有沒有什麼特別的方案或在這段時間來去做一些觀光宣傳的加強報告委員您這樣提醒的話我就趕快跟觀光署來討論一下看怎麼樣在這段時間來就鄰近的國家我們要用什麼樣的方式來迎客那我在想就是部長還是把這個討論的情況到時候也來做一個說明因為我在想這個次期來臺的這個觀光人次也是你的目標那也是大家眾所期待\n\n03:46.246 --> 04:01.012\n那接下來的話本席針對日月潭電動船補助的部分那也想請等一下航港局長來一起說明一下那當然我知道部長上個禮拜才來南投日月潭參加環發經營車賽的這個運動\n\n04:03.353 --> 04:04.354\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n04:20.186 --> 04:21.086\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n04:40.251 --> 04:45.595\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n05:04.950 --> 05:07.554\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n05:21.471 --> 05:39.397\n目前這個目標我們還在調查這個設定當中那這邊日月潭的部分我們也跟觀光署這邊積極的在合作那日管處這邊原來就定有這個相關的補助要點那也持續在推動中\n\n05:40.077 --> 05:51.461\n三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n06:08.587 --> 06:34.646\n好那局長我在這邊直接跟您確認就是在過去的話其實是日管處在負責這個中端但是其實日管處該負責的應該是觀光發展那而船舶的部分在這次也已經確定由航港局來做主責那在這一個船舶補助的部分那在這次補助確定能夠讓業者是能夠積極推動這個船舶自動化的更新是在這個49%的這個標準是可以嗎\n\n06:37.150 --> 06:56.224\n現在就是說日月潭的部分我想我們會再跟觀光署溝通是不是併進來我們的這個整體的計畫?原理上的話應該是要由航港局來去做這個船舶補助比較適當那再來日月潭那個風管處那邊應該是在於觀光人口的引進\n\n06:57.005 --> 07:02.049\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管臺灣港務二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算\n\n07:15.979 --> 07:19.501\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算。\n\n07:45.694 --> 08:00.956\n所以說這個部分要跟業者重分溝通也同時政府情況要祭出誘因所以說在剛才的部分還沒有回答到預期明年度能夠溝通多少能夠達到更新那這樣子所設定的補助跟預算這樣子等於是沒有達到實際的效果\n\n08:01.437 --> 08:23.058\n那本局在這裡還是再次強調就是航港局也要再跟這個包括產發署以及包括能源局還有包括環保環境部那來去做一個溝通因為在今年的行政措施計畫管考建議的部分那環境部相關計畫一致來達到配合推動這個包括船舶自動化的相關補助\n\n08:24.139 --> 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