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00:02:55,882\n因為台灣的早期中華民國還在戒嚴時期的歷史產物所遺留下來但是至今我在2020年之後來到僑委會世界大概也已經繞了三四十個國家我有一個很欣喜的發現跟委員報告就是說不管現在是所謂的中華民國派或者是台派基本上大家已經有一個共識\n\n9\n00:02:57,383 --> 00:03:06,067\n大家第一個都從台灣來自台灣第二個對支持台灣自由民主也很有共識所以我認為大家現在可以放棄過去那種對立的一個姿態甚至國內雖然有不同的政黨傾向可是他們現在甚至可以一起辦升旗典禮可以一起坐下來吃飯那麼我到訪的時候大家也甚至都一起\n\n10\n00:03:21,135 --> 00:03:22,276\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。（\n\n11\n00:03:43,306 --> 00:04:04,726\n有趨近的一致那第二個問題就是說委員長你知道現在有關對岸中國大陸的孔子學院嗎近期在西方其實已經關閉了不少但是據本席瞭解設置在美國大學的孔子學院也剩不到五個所以雖然西方國家對孔子學院的質疑聲量非常高但是國際媒體現在發現孔子學院在阿拉伯世界的中東還有北非\n\n12\n00:04:06,247 --> 00:04:20,734\n還有非洲地區南美洲的數量開始持續的擴張而且成為重點發展地區那請問僑委會有沒有掌握呢還有是有沒有做好最相關的因應呢因為你們的報告內容有寫說114年要強化全球佈局那委員長你有沒有信心讓我們在臺灣華語文學習中心可以進駐這些國家還是設立更多的這些然後取代孔子學院呢事實上我們\n\n13\n00:04:35,546 --> 00:04:36,647\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金\n\n14\n00:04:58,421 --> 00:05:02,684\n都受到各國的歡迎而且包括像美國國務院都還主動幫我們宣傳那我們也樂觀其成在下一個階段的中長程級計劃的時候我們在2026年開始我們會擴大到全球所以就不只設限在歐洲或是美國可能包括其他的州像歐洲以外的是的\n\n15\n00:05:21,158 --> 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興趣我們都會願意去協助他們來設立那經過設立的單位都是屬於當地的NGO組織僑委會是站在協府的立場給他們前幾年提供一定的補助\n341357\t342318\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位\n356334\t359596\t第三個問題就是說僑委會辦理產學攜手合作的僑生專班107年到110年你們根據各個地方像馬來西亞、泰國、越南這些都僑台商需求的餐飲管理的服務為主但是最近還有國發會為了因應我國的產業用人的需求110年特別召開了僑生專班的轉型會議然後也針對了製造業營造業還有長照農業還有電子商務等五大類科\n385754\t389297\t學生為主但是我發現僑生專班的實際招生的結果雖然17校開設的是試班但報到人數的話占預定招收人數進不到試程而其中選擇五大類科者與預期相當非常的大就相差很大那請問原因為何還有請問委員長對此問題你是否有什麼檢討的對策呢\n408976\t437507\t好委員我把這個詳細的資料補充到您的辦公室再跟您進一步詳細說明好不好這數字有一點他寫錯了其實是這個是2022年也就是我們第一年開始擴大舉辦的那個時間但是我們預定招收人數應當不是這個6270那一年還在疫情的管制當中去年呢我們就已經突破5000多了今年我們已經6000多對我會把資料提供給您所以我們已經都超標跟打標了\n438329\t440156\t好謝謝謝謝林宜君召委那委員長請回\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請委員長來委員長請林委員林昭偉你好委員長好因為今天時間有限那個委員長你就只要重點簡單回答我有三個問題像僑委會主要的功能就是幫助全國僑胞在各地安居樂業同時團結海外僑胞的民間力量讓我們國家在國際上會更加的壯大\n那委員長你知道嗎我們在海外有很多僑團嘛所以我們現在會因為國內的政黨的傾向不同所以會有不同派系的團體像我今年八月份到美國僑社的時候就發現有經過分明的兩派中華民國派和台派一個是全美台灣同鄉聯誼會\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．．\n怎麼樣就是說請問委員長面對這麼尷尬的問題你們如何溝通協調面對這樣的處理尤其讓這種不同政黨立場的僑社也可以團結及意見一致呢畢竟我們僑團就是我們台灣民間外交最好的大使團嘛所以我想說面對這些外交的問題委員長要如何處理呢\n中華會館的成立他們都是早期的這個中國移民老僑事實上不一定跟中華民國有發生關係因為你看他成立的時間在18九幾年都已經成立了那時候中華民國都還沒有誕生嘛\n但是這些僑胞確實早期是促進中華民國在革命的時候捐款很重要的力量之一所以他們至今仍然是以支持自由民主的價值所以我們跟這些傳統僑社近年來我們有更好的溝通那由於美中貿易戰等等的這種競合大家逐漸看清楚中國的面目所以包括這些傳統僑社近年來在沒有任何我們給他利益的狀況下他們\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位\n因為台灣的早期中華民國還在戒嚴時期的歷史產物所遺留下來但是至今我在2020年之後來到僑委會世界大概也已經繞了三四十個國家我有一個很欣喜的發現跟委員報告就是說不管現在是所謂的中華民國派或者是台派基本上大家已經有一個共識\n大家第一個都從台灣來自台灣第二個對支持台灣自由民主也很有共識所以我認為大家現在可以放棄過去那種對立的一個姿態甚至國內雖然有不同的政黨傾向可是他們現在甚至可以一起辦升旗典禮可以一起坐下來吃飯那麼我到訪的時候大家也甚至都一起\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。（\n有趨近的一致那第二個問題就是說委員長你知道現在有關對岸中國大陸的孔子學院嗎近期在西方其實已經關閉了不少但是據本席瞭解設置在美國大學的孔子學院也剩不到五個所以雖然西方國家對孔子學院的質疑聲量非常高但是國際媒體現在發現孔子學院在阿拉伯世界的中東還有北非\n還有非洲地區南美洲的數量開始持續的擴張而且成為重點發展地區那請問僑委會有沒有掌握呢還有是有沒有做好最相關的因應呢因為你們的報告內容有寫說114年要強化全球佈局那委員長你有沒有信心讓我們在臺灣華語文學習中心可以進駐這些國家還是設立更多的這些然後取代孔子學院呢事實上我們\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．（僑務委員會主管信託基金\n都受到各國的歡迎而且包括像美國國務院都還主動幫我們宣傳那我們也樂觀其成在下一個階段的中長程級計劃的時候我們在2026年開始我們會擴大到全球所以就不只設限在歐洲或是美國可能包括其他的州像歐洲以外的是的\n對 我們會向全球性擴展包括 亞洲 大洋洲其他的各州 東南美洲只要他們有意願 興趣我們都會願意去協助他們來設立那經過設立的單位都是屬於當地的NGO組織僑委會是站在協府的立場給他們前幾年提供一定的補助\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位\n第三個問題就是說僑委會辦理產學攜手合作的僑生專班107年到110年你們根據各個地方像馬來西亞、泰國、越南這些都僑台商需求的餐飲管理的服務為主但是最近還有國發會為了因應我國的產業用人的需求110年特別召開了僑生專班的轉型會議然後也針對了製造業營造業還有長照農業還有電子商務等五大類科\n學生為主但是我發現僑生專班的實際招生的結果雖然17校開設的是試班但報到人數的話占預定招收人數進不到試程而其中選擇五大類科者與預期相當非常的大就相差很大那請問原因為何還有請問委員長對此問題你是否有什麼檢討的對策呢\n好委員我把這個詳細的資料補充到您的辦公室再跟您進一步詳細說明好不好這數字有一點他寫錯了其實是這個是2022年也就是我們第一年開始擴大舉辦的那個時間但是我們預定招收人數應當不是這個6270那一年還在疫情的管制當中去年呢我們就已經突破5000多了今年我們已經6000多對我會把資料提供給您所以我們已經都超標跟打標了\n好謝謝謝謝林宜君召委那委員長請回\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.854 --> 00:03.976\n謝謝主席有請委員長來委員長請林委員林昭偉你好委員長好因為今天時間有限那個委員長你就只要重點簡單回答我有三個問題像僑委會主要的功能就是幫助全國僑胞在各地安居樂業同時團結海外僑胞的民間力量讓我們國家在國際上會更加的壯大\n\n00:28.490 --> 00:31.491\n那委員長你知道嗎我們在海外有很多僑團嘛所以我們現在會因為國內的政黨的傾向不同所以會有不同派系的團體像我今年八月份到美國僑社的時候就發現有經過分明的兩派中華民國派和台派一個是全美台灣同鄉聯誼會\n\n00:49.995 --> 00:50.636\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金．．\n\n01:09.076 --> 01:11.157\n怎麼樣就是說請問委員長面對這麼尷尬的問題你們如何溝通協調面對這樣的處理尤其讓這種不同政黨立場的僑社也可以團結及意見一致呢畢竟我們僑團就是我們台灣民間外交最好的大使團嘛所以我想說面對這些外交的問題委員長要如何處理呢\n\n01:30.826 --> 01:43.653\n中華會館的成立他們都是早期的這個中國移民老僑事實上不一定跟中華民國有發生關係因為你看他成立的時間在18九幾年都已經成立了那時候中華民國都還沒有誕生嘛\n\n01:45.914 --> 02:14.594\n但是這些僑胞確實早期是促進中華民國在革命的時候捐款很重要的力量之一所以他們至今仍然是以支持自由民主的價值所以我們跟這些傳統僑社近年來我們有更好的溝通那由於美中貿易戰等等的這種競合大家逐漸看清楚中國的面目所以包括這些傳統僑社近年來在沒有任何我們給他利益的狀況下他們\n\n02:15.254 --> 02:16.875\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算案附屬單位\n\n02:30.919 --> 02:55.882\n因為台灣的早期中華民國還在戒嚴時期的歷史產物所遺留下來但是至今我在2020年之後來到僑委會世界大概也已經繞了三四十個國家我有一個很欣喜的發現跟委員報告就是說不管現在是所謂的中華民國派或者是台派基本上大家已經有一個共識\n\n02:57.383 --> 03:06.067\n大家第一個都從台灣來自台灣第二個對支持台灣自由民主也很有共識所以我認為大家現在可以放棄過去那種對立的一個姿態甚至國內雖然有不同的政黨傾向可是他們現在甚至可以一起辦升旗典禮可以一起坐下來吃飯那麼我到訪的時候大家也甚至都一起\n\n03:21.135 --> 03:22.276\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。（\n\n03:43.306 --> 04:04.726\n有趨近的一致那第二個問題就是說委員長你知道現在有關對岸中國大陸的孔子學院嗎近期在西方其實已經關閉了不少但是據本席瞭解設置在美國大學的孔子學院也剩不到五個所以雖然西方國家對孔子學院的質疑聲量非常高但是國際媒體現在發現孔子學院在阿拉伯世界的中東還有北非\n\n04:06.247 --> 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