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00:01:28,348\n所以這個禮物其實屏東人應該已經拿到了這個沒有問題那現在的問題是在於說我們整個工程的過程當中我們的規劃是要走左營岸也就是高屏二塊這條路線或者要走高雄岸也就是高雄火車站的這條路線這兩岸我們要擇一岸是這個部分在年底之前我們會確定但是延伸到高雄這個是已經確定這是國家政策部長那請教一下我們目前的說明會全部都辦完了嗎\n\n5\n00:01:29,308 --> 00:01:51,251\n報告委員我們總共有四場的地方說明會已經辦完了另外還有就是賴委員也有辦了一場那就是第五場的地方說明會那另外我們還有專家學者的這個說明會有兩場那這個部分已經先完成了那部長自己參加跟局長參加完之後覺得到底我們的部分會傾向是高雄案還是左營案\n\n6\n00:01:52,840 --> 00:02:11,258\n報告委員目前聽起來對於高雄的鄉親跟地方的民意代表應該是有一些地方發展的期待希望說如果走高雄案對於整體的這個高雄市區裡面或者是比較南高雄的部分的未來的發展可能會有一些幫助\n\n7\n00:02:12,358 --> 00:02:31,371\n但是我想包含本席跟我們很多鄉親憂慮的是因為目前我們高雄案原本要開挖的面積有3.34公里5.82公頃長度大概有3.34公里這麼長那我們目前有稍微做一個縮減到2.04公里跟面積把它降低到309公頃\n\n8\n00:02:32,672 --> 00:02:51,982\n但是這樣子的用地徵收跟所謂的一個溝通的過程會不會在訂案之後又要花很多時間在處理這些所謂的一個行政用地的程序?報告委員我當然知道屏東的鄉親是希望能夠速度快一點所以第一我們在規劃的過程當中我們盡量需要徵收的面積會盡量減少\n\n9\n00:02:53,303 --> 00:03:21,588\n那需要拆遷的戶數也會盡量減少就是盡量不要影響到民眾的這個住的權益盡量不要影響到民眾一般生活的這個生活模式盡量不影響那我們在綠園道的部分不影響的面積也達到95%也就是說會影響只有5%那我相信把影響降到最低那我們跟高雄市政府這邊也會密切來溝通密切來配合例如說未來如果要朝都更的方向那我相信地方上面的主力就會\n\n10\n00:03:22,048 --> 00:03:23,509\nbicyclap\n\n11\n00:03:45,370 --> 00:04:08,169\ntatto好消息之後結果又要等到五年十年之後再動工。這個不是我們所樂見的。是我們會同步來進行也會跟地方政府也就是高雄市政府密切來配合。好那也要跟屏東縣政府也要來好好的來溝通。那另外就是上次本席有請教過部長就是針對台鐵六快速車站預計吸引2.6公里跟我們高鐵共構有這個規劃案嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:37,195\n那目前但是我們在目前我們交通部跟鐵道局的預算裡面並沒有看到這樣的一個相關的經費那請教部長這個明年會不會動工是報告委員這個部分我們明年會先簽一個計畫給行政院讓行政院這邊來核定希望明年也可以來動工好不好我們來加快的經費我們明年先把計畫先送到行政院由行政院來核定之後我們就會來加速動工好\n\n13\n00:04:37,659 --> 00:04:58,370\n那除了這個高鐵的問題之外我想我還是要幫我們屏東的鄉親來請命這部分本席也一直在跟我們的鐵道局一直在溝通那個照片顯示部長我們的屏東的車站有很多好幾個車站目前還是所謂的一個平面式的車站\n\n14\n00:04:59,471 --> 00:05:22,047\n那即使我們現在有一部分包含訪寮大平台計畫都要整個拉高之後但是還是有很多車站面臨所謂的一個交通事故跟一個淹水的一個問題還是還是要強調我們一定要爭取所謂的一個全線高價化的一個計畫這部分還是要請部長跟局長多幫忙那部長這邊有沒有什麼規劃的想法\n\n15\n00:05:22,487 --> 00:05:50,443\n報告委員其實我覺得這一段大家要思考的是在極端氣候之後您這個照片看得出來就是說有時候只要下大雨或是颱風來那一段的軌道可能就會被淹沒這個部分對軌道的運行來講是危險的那所以我們其實整個高價化除了經濟效益之外也要再思考就是極端氣候之後那這個軌道的這個韌性跟整體交通的韌性那這個部分交通部跟鐵道局會來做整體的規劃跟評估\n\n16\n00:05:51,786 --> 00:06:07,939\n因為對平東鄉親來講我們長期碰到就是所謂的一個火車因為我們現在火車的頻率很高經過的頻率很高那行駛過程裡面就常常碰到所謂的一個平交道的阻擋甚至這個事故有時候事故的造成\n\n17\n00:06:08,479 --> 00:06:08,919\nbicyC.是是是\n\n18\n00:06:27,745 --> 00:06:41,471\n另外針對我們屏南觀光鐵道的部分請教一下部長我們今年3月20重啟可行性評估之後11月已經提出期中報告目前的研議方向是不是可以一個正面的答覆?\n\n19\n00:06:46,029 --> 00:07:00,624\n各位報告現在我們相關的作業都非常的順利所以這個規劃我們未來會再跟屏東縣政府這邊就路線還有這個車站的設置等等進行進一步的這個溝通預計明年就可以完成這個可行性研究\n\n20\n00:07:01,728 --> 00:07:29,708\n對,因為我想部長也跟局長也常常到墾丁去啦哈這幾年墾丁確實是面臨一個觀光的一個瓶頸那我想有一個新的一個交通的一個刺激然後加上我們未來一些新的景點的開發確實我覺得對整個觀光旅遊業有很大的注意但是我們很擔心這樣一個評估的一個速度太慢甚至我們這個施工的期程會拉得太長那部長針對這部分有沒有信心可以來完成盡快來完成這個案子\n\n21\n00:07:31,163 --> 00:07:57,763\n報告委員這個可行性研究的部分我們盡量來協助就是說看速度可不可以再加快一點明年年中看可不可以趕快做出來另外一個就是對我們野海鄉鎮最關心的就是我們的高雄捷運的一個小港臨遠到東港臨邊這條路線目前高雄端已經開工了預計在119年完工通車但是屏東這邊似乎還沒有聽到\n\n22\n00:08:15,310 --> 00:08:43,872\n是這個部分我們也來跟高雄市政府也來協助因為我知道我們的選址車站選址這些都已經路線都已經確定了嘛對對對現在應該只有剩下林園石化縣的這一段那這部分我想應該要趕快去溝通啦好就查這個單位應該是我們加快來啟程啦好這個我們來加速好那就所有我們屏東的交通建設真的要希望部長跟局長多多的支持好我們一起努力我們要實踐賴總統的區域均衡發展交通建設絕對是一個很重要的一個要件啦好好謝謝好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3359\t6750\t謝謝主席,我們有請交通部陳部長,鐵道局楊局長楊局長,鐵道局\n17461\t33649\t部長好局長早部長我想再過半個月我們2024就要接近就結束我們即將迎接2025那請教部長對於品農團來講他們期待2025年的一個新年禮物部長知道是什麼嗎?\n35290\t60236\t請委員指示我想我們就是希望聽到高鐵南延的好消息啦是是是對但是這個消息我想部長這個最近在委員會本席也一直在期待部長趕快給我們這個好消息那距離這個半個月也快到了部長這個好消息會實現嗎報告委員其實高鐵南延屏東這個是國家的政策這個早就定案\n61236\t88348\t所以這個禮物其實屏東人應該已經拿到了這個沒有問題那現在的問題是在於說我們整個工程的過程當中我們的規劃是要走左營岸也就是高屏二塊這條路線或者要走高雄岸也就是高雄火車站的這條路線這兩岸我們要擇一岸是這個部分在年底之前我們會確定但是延伸到高雄這個是已經確定這是國家政策部長那請教一下我們目前的說明會全部都辦完了嗎\n89308\t111251\t報告委員我們總共有四場的地方說明會已經辦完了另外還有就是賴委員也有辦了一場那就是第五場的地方說明會那另外我們還有專家學者的這個說明會有兩場那這個部分已經先完成了那部長自己參加跟局長參加完之後覺得到底我們的部分會傾向是高雄案還是左營案\n112840\t131258\t報告委員目前聽起來對於高雄的鄉親跟地方的民意代表應該是有一些地方發展的期待希望說如果走高雄案對於整體的這個高雄市區裡面或者是比較南高雄的部分的未來的發展可能會有一些幫助\n132358\t151371\t但是我想包含本席跟我們很多鄉親憂慮的是因為目前我們高雄案原本要開挖的面積有3.34公里5.82公頃長度大概有3.34公里這麼長那我們目前有稍微做一個縮減到2.04公里跟面積把它降低到309公頃\n152672\t171982\t但是這樣子的用地徵收跟所謂的一個溝通的過程會不會在訂案之後又要花很多時間在處理這些所謂的一個行政用地的程序?報告委員我當然知道屏東的鄉親是希望能夠速度快一點所以第一我們在規劃的過程當中我們盡量需要徵收的面積會盡量減少\n173303\t201588\t那需要拆遷的戶數也會盡量減少就是盡量不要影響到民眾的這個住的權益盡量不要影響到民眾一般生活的這個生活模式盡量不影響那我們在綠園道的部分不影響的面積也達到95%也就是說會影響只有5%那我相信把影響降到最低那我們跟高雄市政府這邊也會密切來溝通密切來配合例如說未來如果要朝都更的方向那我相信地方上面的主力就會\n202048\t203509\tbicyclap\n225370\t248169\ttatto好消息之後結果又要等到五年十年之後再動工。這個不是我們所樂見的。是我們會同步來進行也會跟地方政府也就是高雄市政府密切來配合。好那也要跟屏東縣政府也要來好好的來溝通。那另外就是上次本席有請教過部長就是針對台鐵六快速車站預計吸引2.6公里跟我們高鐵共構有這個規劃案嗎?\n250017\t277195\t那目前但是我們在目前我們交通部跟鐵道局的預算裡面並沒有看到這樣的一個相關的經費那請教部長這個明年會不會動工是報告委員這個部分我們明年會先簽一個計畫給行政院讓行政院這邊來核定希望明年也可以來動工好不好我們來加快的經費我們明年先把計畫先送到行政院由行政院來核定之後我們就會來加速動工好\n277659\t298370\t那除了這個高鐵的問題之外我想我還是要幫我們屏東的鄉親來請命這部分本席也一直在跟我們的鐵道局一直在溝通那個照片顯示部長我們的屏東的車站有很多好幾個車站目前還是所謂的一個平面式的車站\n299471\t322047\t那即使我們現在有一部分包含訪寮大平台計畫都要整個拉高之後但是還是有很多車站面臨所謂的一個交通事故跟一個淹水的一個問題還是還是要強調我們一定要爭取所謂的一個全線高價化的一個計畫這部分還是要請部長跟局長多幫忙那部長這邊有沒有什麼規劃的想法\n322487\t350443\t報告委員其實我覺得這一段大家要思考的是在極端氣候之後您這個照片看得出來就是說有時候只要下大雨或是颱風來那一段的軌道可能就會被淹沒這個部分對軌道的運行來講是危險的那所以我們其實整個高價化除了經濟效益之外也要再思考就是極端氣候之後那這個軌道的這個韌性跟整體交通的韌性那這個部分交通部跟鐵道局會來做整體的規劃跟評估\n351786\t367939\t因為對平東鄉親來講我們長期碰到就是所謂的一個火車因為我們現在火車的頻率很高經過的頻率很高那行駛過程裡面就常常碰到所謂的一個平交道的阻擋甚至這個事故有時候事故的造成\n368479\t368919\tbicyC.是是是\n387745\t401471\t另外針對我們屏南觀光鐵道的部分請教一下部長我們今年3月20重啟可行性評估之後11月已經提出期中報告目前的研議方向是不是可以一個正面的答覆?\n406029\t420624\t各位報告現在我們相關的作業都非常的順利所以這個規劃我們未來會再跟屏東縣政府這邊就路線還有這個車站的設置等等進行進一步的這個溝通預計明年就可以完成這個可行性研究\n421728\t449708\t對,因為我想部長也跟局長也常常到墾丁去啦哈這幾年墾丁確實是面臨一個觀光的一個瓶頸那我想有一個新的一個交通的一個刺激然後加上我們未來一些新的景點的開發確實我覺得對整個觀光旅遊業有很大的注意但是我們很擔心這樣一個評估的一個速度太慢甚至我們這個施工的期程會拉得太長那部長針對這部分有沒有信心可以來完成盡快來完成這個案子\n451163\t477763\t報告委員這個可行性研究的部分我們盡量來協助就是說看速度可不可以再加快一點明年年中看可不可以趕快做出來另外一個就是對我們野海鄉鎮最關心的就是我們的高雄捷運的一個小港臨遠到東港臨邊這條路線目前高雄端已經開工了預計在119年完工通車但是屏東這邊似乎還沒有聽到\n479377\t494701\t議員議員議員議員\n495310\t523872\t是 這個部分我們也來跟高雄市政府也來協助因為我知道我們的選址車站選址這些都已經路線都已經確定了嘛對對對現在應該只有剩下林園石化縣的這一段那這部分我想應該要趕快去溝通啦好就查這個單位應該是我們加快來啟程啦好 這個我們來加速好 那就所有我們屏東的交通建設真的要希望部長跟局長多多的支持好 我們一起努力我們要實踐賴總統的區域均衡發展交通建設絕對是一個很重要的一個要件啦好 好 謝謝好 謝謝委員\n525213\t525265\t總預算案關於國家運輸安全調查委員會單位預算。\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我們有請交通部陳部長,鐵道局楊局長楊局長,鐵道局\n部長好局長早部長我想再過半個月我們2024就要接近就結束我們即將迎接2025那請教部長對於品農團來講他們期待2025年的一個新年禮物部長知道是什麼嗎?\n請委員指示我想我們就是希望聽到高鐵南延的好消息啦是是是對但是這個消息我想部長這個最近在委員會本席也一直在期待部長趕快給我們這個好消息那距離這個半個月也快到了部長這個好消息會實現嗎報告委員其實高鐵南延屏東這個是國家的政策這個早就定案\n所以這個禮物其實屏東人應該已經拿到了這個沒有問題那現在的問題是在於說我們整個工程的過程當中我們的規劃是要走左營岸也就是高屏二塊這條路線或者要走高雄岸也就是高雄火車站的這條路線這兩岸我們要擇一岸是這個部分在年底之前我們會確定但是延伸到高雄這個是已經確定這是國家政策部長那請教一下我們目前的說明會全部都辦完了嗎\n報告委員我們總共有四場的地方說明會已經辦完了另外還有就是賴委員也有辦了一場那就是第五場的地方說明會那另外我們還有專家學者的這個說明會有兩場那這個部分已經先完成了那部長自己參加跟局長參加完之後覺得到底我們的部分會傾向是高雄案還是左營案\n報告委員目前聽起來對於高雄的鄉親跟地方的民意代表應該是有一些地方發展的期待希望說如果走高雄案對於整體的這個高雄市區裡面或者是比較南高雄的部分的未來的發展可能會有一些幫助\n但是我想包含本席跟我們很多鄉親憂慮的是因為目前我們高雄案原本要開挖的面積有3.34公里5.82公頃長度大概有3.34公里這麼長那我們目前有稍微做一個縮減到2.04公里跟面積把它降低到309公頃\n但是這樣子的用地徵收跟所謂的一個溝通的過程會不會在訂案之後又要花很多時間在處理這些所謂的一個行政用地的程序?報告委員我當然知道屏東的鄉親是希望能夠速度快一點所以第一我們在規劃的過程當中我們盡量需要徵收的面積會盡量減少\n那需要拆遷的戶數也會盡量減少就是盡量不要影響到民眾的這個住的權益盡量不要影響到民眾一般生活的這個生活模式盡量不影響那我們在綠園道的部分不影響的面積也達到95%也就是說會影響只有5%那我相信把影響降到最低那我們跟高雄市政府這邊也會密切來溝通密切來配合例如說未來如果要朝都更的方向那我相信地方上面的主力就會\nbicyclap\ntatto好消息之後結果又要等到五年十年之後再動工。這個不是我們所樂見的。是我們會同步來進行也會跟地方政府也就是高雄市政府密切來配合。好那也要跟屏東縣政府也要來好好的來溝通。那另外就是上次本席有請教過部長就是針對台鐵六快速車站預計吸引2.6公里跟我們高鐵共構有這個規劃案嗎?\n那目前但是我們在目前我們交通部跟鐵道局的預算裡面並沒有看到這樣的一個相關的經費那請教部長這個明年會不會動工是報告委員這個部分我們明年會先簽一個計畫給行政院讓行政院這邊來核定希望明年也可以來動工好不好我們來加快的經費我們明年先把計畫先送到行政院由行政院來核定之後我們就會來加速動工好\n那除了這個高鐵的問題之外我想我還是要幫我們屏東的鄉親來請命這部分本席也一直在跟我們的鐵道局一直在溝通那個照片顯示部長我們的屏東的車站有很多好幾個車站目前還是所謂的一個平面式的車站\n那即使我們現在有一部分包含訪寮大平台計畫都要整個拉高之後但是還是有很多車站面臨所謂的一個交通事故跟一個淹水的一個問題還是還是要強調我們一定要爭取所謂的一個全線高價化的一個計畫這部分還是要請部長跟局長多幫忙那部長這邊有沒有什麼規劃的想法\n報告委員其實我覺得這一段大家要思考的是在極端氣候之後您這個照片看得出來就是說有時候只要下大雨或是颱風來那一段的軌道可能就會被淹沒這個部分對軌道的運行來講是危險的那所以我們其實整個高價化除了經濟效益之外也要再思考就是極端氣候之後那這個軌道的這個韌性跟整體交通的韌性那這個部分交通部跟鐵道局會來做整體的規劃跟評估\n因為對平東鄉親來講我們長期碰到就是所謂的一個火車因為我們現在火車的頻率很高經過的頻率很高那行駛過程裡面就常常碰到所謂的一個平交道的阻擋甚至這個事故有時候事故的造成\nbicyC.是是是\n另外針對我們屏南觀光鐵道的部分請教一下部長我們今年3月20重啟可行性評估之後11月已經提出期中報告目前的研議方向是不是可以一個正面的答覆?\n各位報告現在我們相關的作業都非常的順利所以這個規劃我們未來會再跟屏東縣政府這邊就路線還有這個車站的設置等等進行進一步的這個溝通預計明年就可以完成這個可行性研究\n對,因為我想部長也跟局長也常常到墾丁去啦哈這幾年墾丁確實是面臨一個觀光的一個瓶頸那我想有一個新的一個交通的一個刺激然後加上我們未來一些新的景點的開發確實我覺得對整個觀光旅遊業有很大的注意但是我們很擔心這樣一個評估的一個速度太慢甚至我們這個施工的期程會拉得太長那部長針對這部分有沒有信心可以來完成盡快來完成這個案子\n報告委員這個可行性研究的部分我們盡量來協助就是說看速度可不可以再加快一點明年年中看可不可以趕快做出來另外一個就是對我們野海鄉鎮最關心的就是我們的高雄捷運的一個小港臨遠到東港臨邊這條路線目前高雄端已經開工了預計在119年完工通車但是屏東這邊似乎還沒有聽到\n議員議員議員議員\n是 這個部分我們也來跟高雄市政府也來協助因為我知道我們的選址車站選址這些都已經路線都已經確定了嘛對對對現在應該只有剩下林園石化縣的這一段那這部分我想應該要趕快去溝通啦好就查這個單位應該是我們加快來啟程啦好 這個我們來加速好 那就所有我們屏東的交通建設真的要希望部長跟局長多多的支持好 我們一起努力我們要實踐賴總統的區域均衡發展交通建設絕對是一個很重要的一個要件啦好 好 謝謝好 謝謝委員\n總預算案關於國家運輸安全調查委員會單位預算。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.359 --> 00:06.750\n謝謝主席,我們有請交通部陳部長,鐵道局楊局長楊局長,鐵道局\n\n00:17.461 --> 00:33.649\n部長好局長早部長我想再過半個月我們2024就要接近就結束我們即將迎接2025那請教部長對於品農團來講他們期待2025年的一個新年禮物部長知道是什麼嗎?\n\n00:35.290 --> 01:00.236\n請委員指示我想我們就是希望聽到高鐵南延的好消息啦是是是對但是這個消息我想部長這個最近在委員會本席也一直在期待部長趕快給我們這個好消息那距離這個半個月也快到了部長這個好消息會實現嗎報告委員其實高鐵南延屏東這個是國家的政策這個早就定案\n\n01:01.236 --> 01:28.348\n所以這個禮物其實屏東人應該已經拿到了這個沒有問題那現在的問題是在於說我們整個工程的過程當中我們的規劃是要走左營岸也就是高屏二塊這條路線或者要走高雄岸也就是高雄火車站的這條路線這兩岸我們要擇一岸是這個部分在年底之前我們會確定但是延伸到高雄這個是已經確定這是國家政策部長那請教一下我們目前的說明會全部都辦完了嗎\n\n01:29.308 --> 01:51.251\n報告委員我們總共有四場的地方說明會已經辦完了另外還有就是賴委員也有辦了一場那就是第五場的地方說明會那另外我們還有專家學者的這個說明會有兩場那這個部分已經先完成了那部長自己參加跟局長參加完之後覺得到底我們的部分會傾向是高雄案還是左營案\n\n01:52.840 --> 02:11.258\n報告委員目前聽起來對於高雄的鄉親跟地方的民意代表應該是有一些地方發展的期待希望說如果走高雄案對於整體的這個高雄市區裡面或者是比較南高雄的部分的未來的發展可能會有一些幫助\n\n02:12.358 --> 02:31.371\n但是我想包含本席跟我們很多鄉親憂慮的是因為目前我們高雄案原本要開挖的面積有3.34公里5.82公頃長度大概有3.34公里這麼長那我們目前有稍微做一個縮減到2.04公里跟面積把它降低到309公頃\n\n02:32.672 --> 02:51.982\n但是這樣子的用地徵收跟所謂的一個溝通的過程會不會在訂案之後又要花很多時間在處理這些所謂的一個行政用地的程序?報告委員我當然知道屏東的鄉親是希望能夠速度快一點所以第一我們在規劃的過程當中我們盡量需要徵收的面積會盡量減少\n\n02:53.303 --> 03:21.588\n那需要拆遷的戶數也會盡量減少就是盡量不要影響到民眾的這個住的權益盡量不要影響到民眾一般生活的這個生活模式盡量不影響那我們在綠園道的部分不影響的面積也達到95%也就是說會影響只有5%那我相信把影響降到最低那我們跟高雄市政府這邊也會密切來溝通密切來配合例如說未來如果要朝都更的方向那我相信地方上面的主力就會\n\n03:22.048 --> 03:23.509\nbicyclap\n\n03:45.370 --> 04:08.169\ntatto好消息之後結果又要等到五年十年之後再動工。這個不是我們所樂見的。是我們會同步來進行也會跟地方政府也就是高雄市政府密切來配合。好那也要跟屏東縣政府也要來好好的來溝通。那另外就是上次本席有請教過部長就是針對台鐵六快速車站預計吸引2.6公里跟我們高鐵共構有這個規劃案嗎?\n\n04:10.017 --> 04:37.195\n那目前但是我們在目前我們交通部跟鐵道局的預算裡面並沒有看到這樣的一個相關的經費那請教部長這個明年會不會動工是報告委員這個部分我們明年會先簽一個計畫給行政院讓行政院這邊來核定希望明年也可以來動工好不好我們來加快的經費我們明年先把計畫先送到行政院由行政院來核定之後我們就會來加速動工好\n\n04:37.659 --> 04:58.370\n那除了這個高鐵的問題之外我想我還是要幫我們屏東的鄉親來請命這部分本席也一直在跟我們的鐵道局一直在溝通那個照片顯示部長我們的屏東的車站有很多好幾個車站目前還是所謂的一個平面式的車站\n\n04:59.471 --> 05:22.047\n那即使我們現在有一部分包含訪寮大平台計畫都要整個拉高之後但是還是有很多車站面臨所謂的一個交通事故跟一個淹水的一個問題還是還是要強調我們一定要爭取所謂的一個全線高價化的一個計畫這部分還是要請部長跟局長多幫忙那部長這邊有沒有什麼規劃的想法\n\n05:22.487 --> 05:50.443\n報告委員其實我覺得這一段大家要思考的是在極端氣候之後您這個照片看得出來就是說有時候只要下大雨或是颱風來那一段的軌道可能就會被淹沒這個部分對軌道的運行來講是危險的那所以我們其實整個高價化除了經濟效益之外也要再思考就是極端氣候之後那這個軌道的這個韌性跟整體交通的韌性那這個部分交通部跟鐵道局會來做整體的規劃跟評估\n\n05:51.786 --> 06:07.939\n因為對平東鄉親來講我們長期碰到就是所謂的一個火車因為我們現在火車的頻率很高經過的頻率很高那行駛過程裡面就常常碰到所謂的一個平交道的阻擋甚至這個事故有時候事故的造成\n\n06:08.479 --> 06:08.919\nbicyC.是是是\n\n06:27.745 --> 06:41.471\n另外針對我們屏南觀光鐵道的部分請教一下部長我們今年3月20重啟可行性評估之後11月已經提出期中報告目前的研議方向是不是可以一個正面的答覆?\n\n06:46.029 --> 07:00.624\n各位報告現在我們相關的作業都非常的順利所以這個規劃我們未來會再跟屏東縣政府這邊就路線還有這個車站的設置等等進行進一步的這個溝通預計明年就可以完成這個可行性研究\n\n07:01.728 --> 07:29.708\n對,因為我想部長也跟局長也常常到墾丁去啦哈這幾年墾丁確實是面臨一個觀光的一個瓶頸那我想有一個新的一個交通的一個刺激然後加上我們未來一些新的景點的開發確實我覺得對整個觀光旅遊業有很大的注意但是我們很擔心這樣一個評估的一個速度太慢甚至我們這個施工的期程會拉得太長那部長針對這部分有沒有信心可以來完成盡快來完成這個案子\n\n07:31.163 --> 07:57.763\n報告委員這個可行性研究的部分我們盡量來協助就是說看速度可不可以再加快一點明年年中看可不可以趕快做出來另外一個就是對我們野海鄉鎮最關心的就是我們的高雄捷運的一個小港臨遠到東港臨邊這條路線目前高雄端已經開工了預計在119年完工通車但是屏東這邊似乎還沒有聽到\n\n08:15.310 --> 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