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\"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:02,945 --> 00:00:07,508\n謝謝魯昭偉,那我們請部長還有中華郵政的王董事長。\n\n2\n00:00:17,232 --> 00:00:32,343\n謝謝主席其實剛剛蔡委員在講的我們要做推展台灣那觀光很重要那事實上在交通部的轄下所有的單位應該要橫向的聯繫我今天要特別講的是什麼剛剛蔡委員講的我們最強的會長講的TeamTaiwan的冠軍遊輒\n\n3\n00:00:39,147 --> 00:01:01,601\n這個他看起來是中華郵政的業務但是他也是種觀光行銷啊可是我看我們的橫向聯繫從來沒有大家都是各做各的那現在我先講中華郵政自己本身啊預購秒殺雖然剛剛董事長有說啊有我們這是第一波還有第二波那未來還有計畫但是呢我們要談的是什麼\n\n4\n00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:24,866\n如何用比較新的觀念而且是跟得上時代的觀念來進行行銷。這個行銷不是只有在推我們中華郵政幫中華郵政賺錢這個行銷也是台灣可以向國際行銷賺國外的錢嘛對不對只是說我們我再講一次我看起來好像大家都是各做各的\n\n5\n00:01:25,646 --> 00:01:44,356\n少了一個整合行銷的一個觀念部長這給你做參考我覺得觀光對我們交通部來講是一個重中之重的業務也是把台灣的國際形象搞好的一個最重要的關鍵所以這個產業大家也希望說政府能夠\n\n6\n00:01:45,256 --> 00:01:47,398\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n\n7\n00:02:03,909 --> 00:02:29,191\n這個王董事長你自己應該也知道這在你們網站上下來了我們從60年代我們呢不斷的只要在國際賽事上不管是少棒、輕棒、成棒只要有得冠軍有得獎項我們都會發行紀念郵票這個是已經民國60年到民國108年那今年是因為12強世界冠軍所以呢我們有那\n\n8\n00:02:29,972 --> 00:02:49,377\n董事長,我們中華郵政裡面有沒有這樣子碰到這個天大的一個機會來行銷我們中華郵政這個是我們的強項也是我們獨佔市場的你有沒有想過說這是可以把它包裝行銷可以當作下一次的行銷為什麼?台灣棒球很棒台灣很用的\n\n9\n00:02:51,437 --> 00:02:53,279\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算。\n\n10\n00:03:03,359 --> 00:03:31,678\n包括最強的會長現在已經說那個獎盃是要巡迴台灣去做展示啊可是呢101開始爭取我們其他的單位還沒有人跳出來說要爭取我為什麼會說中華郵政在這一次可以做自己的行銷形象的行銷也可以做什麼賺錢的一個大最重要的機會行銷都在於行銷那要行銷要不要有人要有人啊我不知道中華郵政有沒有相關的這種\n\n11\n00:03:34,139 --> 00:03:59,369\n行銷人才整套的,不是選了什麼做了什麼,董事長有嗎?有,我們現在有公共事務處,他是負責這個行銷,我跟委員報告這次事實上他們是,我們是三波高潮,明信片遊者紀念遊票,然後紀念遊票明年1、2、3接經典賽的這個預算,當然如果經典賽到複賽我們的冠軍,當然那時候一定要再花一次,\n\n12\n00:04:00,429 --> 00:04:14,180\n所以我的意思是說那要多元的行銷對不對各式各樣只要能夠爭取曝光只要有行銷的機會都要那甚至觀光署在他的對外的網頁甚至在配合觀光的行銷運動也是一種行銷運動產業行銷台灣的運動產業那\n\n13\n00:04:22,086 --> 00:04:36,315\n剛剛最強會長講了啊,你看大家日本韓國的球迷也會來這裡看棒球啊,那只要台灣有舉辦國際賽事,那也會來啊,是不是?比如台中也有啊,對不對?所以我的意思是說,我們交通部向下,\n\n14\n00:04:37,136 --> 00:04:56,441\n推觀光推行銷我覺得是可以這個在民間企業叫做異業結合啦結盟啦大家可以互相合作拉抬嘛那甚至增加曝光的機會嘛對不對這個才是整套的一個我希望我們能夠有這樣子的人才啦\n\n15\n00:04:57,052 --> 00:05:26,161\n我們來加強我們現在大概很多行銷是在委託其他這種行銷公司來處理那根本包括的確像12強這個也是我們中華郵政最近一波讓人家重視到我們的網站會掛掉是啊曾幾何時中華郵政的網站會被衝到掛掉那表示多熱啊對不對所以我們覺得爭取這一種尤其國家的這種非常榮耀的時刻\n\n16\n00:05:27,209 --> 00:05:55,005\n當然就是配合部長這邊對於觀光的發展我們這個持續而且我覺得不僅僅它只是不僅僅是觀光行銷不僅僅只是幫中華郵政在累積盈餘賺錢重要它是一個歷史記憶這個東西留下來是一個紀念他買的人或者是參與的人對他來講這是他人生當中一個很光榮很重要的記憶所以郵票所以你會發行郵票那接下來\n\n17\n00:05:55,825 --> 00:06:17,072\n要說專業要說觀光大家今天有人提到郵政博物館我剛剛為什麼說你要爭取這一個12強獎盃冠軍來做展因為你們有郵政博物館你們有場館可是你們的場館做得很不專業很不到位而且備受大家認為說\n\n18\n00:06:19,537 --> 00:06:34,376\n你們第一個那個管理有問題第二個策展的專業有問題第三個連時間都會開放時間都是很官僚式的沒有任何其他的\n\n19\n00:06:35,299 --> 00:06:38,581\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算\n\n20\n00:06:51,169 --> 00:06:53,170\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算．\n\n21\n00:07:10,711 --> 00:07:11,251\n董事長你知道嗎?\n\n22\n00:07:38,670 --> 00:08:06,812\n我回答你這個問題跟部長討論以後我們今天開始所謂的本館本來就是只有休禮拜一現在三個分館從今天開始都是休禮拜一其他都開放第一個第二個地方郵局的管理是的確是在這一次我去三個這個郵輪館去看就是說它因為它原來是直接由我們郵由郵國館的總館來管所以它是以郵票為主\n\n23\n00:08:07,752 --> 00:08:29,060\n但是我覺得這個有點可惜,台中剛剛開幕,委員可以看一下,事實上它非常精彩,我們是希望它變成一個郵政的生活館來看,這意思是說除了郵票以外,它有很多的文創的產品,還有一些歷史,它也是可以結合讓地方能夠去的一個地方。\n\n24\n00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,003\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n\n25\n00:08:53,079 --> 00:09:02,410\n這個都需要我們總公司的支持跟部長的支持啊是不是這個部分我們當然支持要有專業的策展是嘛你沒有專業的人的時候為什麼我要幫你們想裁員啊要開員嘛對不對那開員剛剛\n\n26\n00:09:10,464 --> 00:09:24,211\n很多委員都講過你們容易瞭解啊怎麼開源來我提個例子故宮你知道故宮的禮品部有在展售你們中華郵政限量發行郵票你知道嗎然後呢你知道他們一套都賣多少嗎\n\n27\n00:09:27,753 --> 00:09:49,726\n包裝以後比我們現在票值高很多。對。你們的按照你們的票值在賣可能一套幾百塊幾十塊。他呢一套是賣一千二、一千五甚至兩千以上。啊這個為什麼故宮人家會你們不會呢?你這是你所形成出來郵票耶。這麼值得紀念的一個郵票、套票。\n\n28\n00:09:50,886 --> 00:10:16,678\n那怎麼不懂得去經營跟行銷呢?第二個我建議可以用文化幣如果你們願意包裝行銷故宮在賣你們中華郵政的郵票套票的時候他可以使用文化幣那會吸引更多的年輕人來來可能想要來買郵票嘛這也是行銷創新你們的思考啊對不對\n\n29\n00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:22,680\n尤其我們文化幣現在要加碼喔13到15歲可以有600喔那現在15歲到18歲是有1200喔\n\n30\n00:10:27,591 --> 00:10:48,899\n我跟各位報告就是說事實上在中華郵政有很多的創意商品就是類似他雖然是用郵票但是做成杯子做成紀念品那剛才談到像故宮事實上故宮也是跟我們合作是啊可是你賣的是那個郵票的那個幣值啊然後他賣的是整套的這個價值啊藝術價值啊\n\n31\n00:10:50,680 --> 00:11:08,914\n阿文化幣用在集友跟郵政博物館我想這部分我們跟文化部這個要爭取啦因為既然我們郵政博物館要如果有心要好好的來投資要經營要讓他變得是更親近我們一般的人民讓一般的年輕家庭跟親子都可以進入我們的郵政博物館去\n\n32\n00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:13,798\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及\n\n33\n00:11:31,930 --> 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Taiwan的冠軍遊輒\n39147\t61601\t這個他看起來是中華郵政的業務但是他也是種觀光行銷啊可是我看我們的橫向聯繫從來沒有大家都是各做各的那現在我先講中華郵政自己本身啊預購秒殺雖然剛剛董事長有說啊有我們這是第一波還有第二波那未來還有計畫但是呢我們要談的是什麼\n62529\t84866\t如何用比較新的觀念而且是跟得上時代的觀念來進行行銷。這個行銷不是只有在推我們中華郵政幫中華郵政賺錢這個行銷也是台灣可以向國際行銷賺國外的錢嘛對不對只是說我們我再講一次我看起來好像大家都是各做各的\n85646\t104356\t少了一個整合行銷的一個觀念部長這給你做參考我覺得觀光對我們交通部來講是一個重中之重的業務也是把台灣的國際形象搞好的一個最重要的關鍵所以這個產業大家也希望說政府能夠\n105256\t107398\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n123909\t149191\t這個王董事長你自己應該也知道這在你們網站上下來了我們從60年代我們呢不斷的只要在國際賽事上不管是少棒、輕棒、成棒只要有得冠軍有得獎項我們都會發行紀念郵票這個是已經民國60年到民國108年那今年是因為12強世界冠軍所以呢我們有那\n149972\t169377\t董事長,我們中華郵政裡面有沒有這樣子碰到這個天大的一個機會來行銷我們中華郵政這個是我們的強項也是我們獨佔市場的你有沒有想過說這是可以把它包裝行銷可以當作下一次的行銷為什麼?台灣棒球很棒台灣很用的\n171437\t173279\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算。\n183359\t211678\t包括最強的會長現在已經說那個獎盃是要巡迴台灣去做展示啊可是呢101開始爭取我們其他的單位還沒有人跳出來說要爭取我為什麼會說中華郵政在這一次可以做自己的行銷形象的行銷也可以做什麼賺錢的一個大最重要的機會行銷都在於行銷那要行銷要不要有人要有人啊我不知道中華郵政有沒有相關的這種\n214139\t239369\t行銷人才整套的,不是選了什麼做了什麼,董事長有嗎?有,我們現在有公共事務處,他是負責這個行銷,我跟委員報告這次事實上他們是,我們是三波高潮,明信片遊者紀念遊票,然後紀念遊票明年1、2、3接經典賽的這個預算,當然如果經典賽到複賽我們的冠軍,當然那時候一定要再花一次,\n240429\t254180\t所以我的意思是說那要多元的行銷對不對各式各樣只要能夠爭取曝光只要有行銷的機會都要那甚至觀光署在他的對外的網頁甚至在配合觀光的行銷運動也是一種行銷運動產業行銷台灣的運動產業那\n262086\t276315\t剛剛最強會長講了啊,你看大家日本韓國的球迷也會來這裡看棒球啊,那只要台灣有舉辦國際賽事,那也會來啊,是不是?比如台中也有啊,對不對?所以我的意思是說,我們交通部向下,\n277136\t296441\t推觀光推行銷我覺得是可以這個在民間企業叫做異業結合啦結盟啦大家可以互相合作拉抬嘛那甚至增加曝光的機會嘛對不對這個才是整套的一個我希望我們能夠有這樣子的人才啦\n297052\t326161\t我們來加強我們現在大概很多行銷是在委託其他這種行銷公司來處理那根本包括的確像12強這個也是我們中華郵政最近一波讓人家重視到我們的網站會掛掉是啊曾幾何時中華郵政的網站會被衝到掛掉那表示多熱啊對不對所以我們覺得爭取這一種尤其國家的這種非常榮耀的時刻\n327209\t355005\t當然就是配合部長這邊對於觀光的發展我們這個持續而且我覺得不僅僅它只是不僅僅是觀光行銷不僅僅只是幫中華郵政在累積盈餘賺錢重要它是一個歷史記憶這個東西留下來是一個紀念他買的人或者是參與的人對他來講這是他人生當中一個很光榮很重要的記憶所以郵票所以你會發行郵票那接下來\n355825\t377072\t要說專業要說觀光大家今天有人提到郵政博物館我剛剛為什麼說你要爭取這一個12強獎盃冠軍來做展因為你們有郵政博物館你們有場館可是你們的場館做得很不專業很不到位而且備受大家認為說\n379537\t394376\t你們第一個那個管理有問題第二個策展的專業有問題第三個連時間都會開放時間都是很官僚式的沒有任何其他的\n395299\t398581\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算\n411169\t413170\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算．\n430711\t431251\t董事長你知道嗎?\n458670\t486812\t我回答你這個問題跟部長討論以後我們今天開始所謂的本館本來就是只有休禮拜一現在三個分館從今天開始都是休禮拜一其他都開放第一個第二個地方郵局的管理是的確是在這一次我去三個這個郵輪館去看就是說它因為它原來是直接由我們郵由郵國館的總館來管所以它是以郵票為主\n487752\t509060\t但是我覺得這個有點可惜,台中剛剛開幕,委員可以看一下,事實上它非常精彩,我們是希望它變成一個郵政的生活館來看,這意思是說除了郵票以外,它有很多的文創的產品,還有一些歷史,它也是可以結合讓地方能夠去的一個地方。\n509520\t513003\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n533079\t542410\t這個都需要我們總公司的支持跟部長的支持啊是不是這個部分我們當然支持要有專業的策展是嘛你沒有專業的人的時候為什麼我要幫你們想裁員啊要開員嘛對不對那開員剛剛\n550464\t564211\t很多委員都講過你們容易瞭解啊怎麼開源來我提個例子故宮你知道故宮的禮品部有在展售你們中華郵政限量發行郵票你知道嗎然後呢你知道他們一套都賣多少嗎\n567753\t589726\t包裝以後比我們現在票值高很多。對。你們的按照你們的票值在賣可能一套幾百塊幾十塊。他呢一套是賣一千二、一千五甚至兩千以上。啊這個為什麼故宮人家會你們不會呢?你這是你所形成出來郵票耶。這麼值得紀念的一個郵票、套票。\n590886\t616678\t那怎麼不懂得去經營跟行銷呢?第二個我建議可以用文化幣如果你們願意包裝行銷故宮在賣你們中華郵政的郵票套票的時候他可以使用文化幣那會吸引更多的年輕人來來可能想要來買郵票嘛這也是行銷創新你們的思考啊對不對\n618530\t622680\t尤其我們文化幣現在要加碼喔13到15歲可以有600喔那現在15歲到18歲是有1200喔\n627591\t648899\t我跟各位報告就是說事實上在中華郵政有很多的創意商品就是類似他雖然是用郵票但是做成杯子做成紀念品那剛才談到像故宮事實上故宮也是跟我們合作是啊可是你賣的是那個郵票的那個幣值啊然後他賣的是整套的這個價值啊藝術價值啊\n650680\t668914\t阿文化幣用在集友跟郵政博物館我想這部分我們跟文化部這個要爭取啦因為既然我們郵政博物館要如果有心要好好的來投資要經營要讓他變得是更親近我們一般的人民讓一般的年輕家庭跟親子都可以進入我們的郵政博物館去\n669835\t673798\t二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及\n691930\t707530\t談好了之後,你接下來的紀念郵票跟接下來的這個棒球相關的,小人就可以用文化幣來買啊?是不是?報告員,這個我們來跟文化部這邊來商討這個議題。是嘛,我覺得就用創新的方法。\n708731\t715738\t創新的思維然後整體的行銷讓中華郵政這個我覺得非常棒的郵政博物館還有相關的這個紀念郵票郵務能夠開源然後能夠讓中華郵政真的煥然一新這對我們中華郵政的形象很有幫忙好不好以上謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝魯昭偉,那我們請部長還有中華郵政的王董事長。\n謝謝主席其實剛剛蔡委員在講的我們要做推展台灣那觀光很重要那事實上在交通部的轄下所有的單位應該要橫向的聯繫我今天要特別講的是什麼剛剛蔡委員講的我們最強的會長講的Team Taiwan的冠軍遊輒\n這個他看起來是中華郵政的業務但是他也是種觀光行銷啊可是我看我們的橫向聯繫從來沒有大家都是各做各的那現在我先講中華郵政自己本身啊預購秒殺雖然剛剛董事長有說啊有我們這是第一波還有第二波那未來還有計畫但是呢我們要談的是什麼\n如何用比較新的觀念而且是跟得上時代的觀念來進行行銷。這個行銷不是只有在推我們中華郵政幫中華郵政賺錢這個行銷也是台灣可以向國際行銷賺國外的錢嘛對不對只是說我們我再講一次我看起來好像大家都是各做各的\n少了一個整合行銷的一個觀念部長這給你做參考我覺得觀光對我們交通部來講是一個重中之重的業務也是把台灣的國際形象搞好的一個最重要的關鍵所以這個產業大家也希望說政府能夠\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n這個王董事長你自己應該也知道這在你們網站上下來了我們從60年代我們呢不斷的只要在國際賽事上不管是少棒、輕棒、成棒只要有得冠軍有得獎項我們都會發行紀念郵票這個是已經民國60年到民國108年那今年是因為12強世界冠軍所以呢我們有那\n董事長,我們中華郵政裡面有沒有這樣子碰到這個天大的一個機會來行銷我們中華郵政這個是我們的強項也是我們獨佔市場的你有沒有想過說這是可以把它包裝行銷可以當作下一次的行銷為什麼?台灣棒球很棒台灣很用的\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算。\n包括最強的會長現在已經說那個獎盃是要巡迴台灣去做展示啊可是呢101開始爭取我們其他的單位還沒有人跳出來說要爭取我為什麼會說中華郵政在這一次可以做自己的行銷形象的行銷也可以做什麼賺錢的一個大最重要的機會行銷都在於行銷那要行銷要不要有人要有人啊我不知道中華郵政有沒有相關的這種\n行銷人才整套的,不是選了什麼做了什麼,董事長有嗎?有,我們現在有公共事務處,他是負責這個行銷,我跟委員報告這次事實上他們是,我們是三波高潮,明信片遊者紀念遊票,然後紀念遊票明年1、2、3接經典賽的這個預算,當然如果經典賽到複賽我們的冠軍,當然那時候一定要再花一次,\n所以我的意思是說那要多元的行銷對不對各式各樣只要能夠爭取曝光只要有行銷的機會都要那甚至觀光署在他的對外的網頁甚至在配合觀光的行銷運動也是一種行銷運動產業行銷台灣的運動產業那\n剛剛最強會長講了啊,你看大家日本韓國的球迷也會來這裡看棒球啊,那只要台灣有舉辦國際賽事,那也會來啊,是不是?比如台中也有啊,對不對?所以我的意思是說,我們交通部向下,\n推觀光推行銷我覺得是可以這個在民間企業叫做異業結合啦結盟啦大家可以互相合作拉抬嘛那甚至增加曝光的機會嘛對不對這個才是整套的一個我希望我們能夠有這樣子的人才啦\n我們來加強我們現在大概很多行銷是在委託其他這種行銷公司來處理那根本包括的確像12強這個也是我們中華郵政最近一波讓人家重視到我們的網站會掛掉是啊曾幾何時中華郵政的網站會被衝到掛掉那表示多熱啊對不對所以我們覺得爭取這一種尤其國家的這種非常榮耀的時刻\n當然就是配合部長這邊對於觀光的發展我們這個持續而且我覺得不僅僅它只是不僅僅是觀光行銷不僅僅只是幫中華郵政在累積盈餘賺錢重要它是一個歷史記憶這個東西留下來是一個紀念他買的人或者是參與的人對他來講這是他人生當中一個很光榮很重要的記憶所以郵票所以你會發行郵票那接下來\n要說專業要說觀光大家今天有人提到郵政博物館我剛剛為什麼說你要爭取這一個12強獎盃冠軍來做展因為你們有郵政博物館你們有場館可是你們的場館做得很不專業很不到位而且備受大家認為說\n你們第一個那個管理有問題第二個策展的專業有問題第三個連時間都會開放時間都是很官僚式的沒有任何其他的\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算．\n董事長你知道嗎?\n我回答你這個問題跟部長討論以後我們今天開始所謂的本館本來就是只有休禮拜一現在三個分館從今天開始都是休禮拜一其他都開放第一個第二個地方郵局的管理是的確是在這一次我去三個這個郵輪館去看就是說它因為它原來是直接由我們郵由郵國館的總館來管所以它是以郵票為主\n但是我覺得這個有點可惜,台中剛剛開幕,委員可以看一下,事實上它非常精彩,我們是希望它變成一個郵政的生活館來看,這意思是說除了郵票以外,它有很多的文創的產品,還有一些歷史,它也是可以結合讓地方能夠去的一個地方。\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n這個都需要我們總公司的支持跟部長的支持啊是不是這個部分我們當然支持要有專業的策展是嘛你沒有專業的人的時候為什麼我要幫你們想裁員啊要開員嘛對不對那開員剛剛\n很多委員都講過你們容易瞭解啊怎麼開源來我提個例子故宮你知道故宮的禮品部有在展售你們中華郵政限量發行郵票你知道嗎然後呢你知道他們一套都賣多少嗎\n包裝以後比我們現在票值高很多。對。你們的按照你們的票值在賣可能一套幾百塊幾十塊。他呢一套是賣一千二、一千五甚至兩千以上。啊這個為什麼故宮人家會你們不會呢?你這是你所形成出來郵票耶。這麼值得紀念的一個郵票、套票。\n那怎麼不懂得去經營跟行銷呢?第二個我建議可以用文化幣如果你們願意包裝行銷故宮在賣你們中華郵政的郵票套票的時候他可以使用文化幣那會吸引更多的年輕人來來可能想要來買郵票嘛這也是行銷創新你們的思考啊對不對\n尤其我們文化幣現在要加碼喔13到15歲可以有600喔那現在15歲到18歲是有1200喔\n我跟各位報告就是說事實上在中華郵政有很多的創意商品就是類似他雖然是用郵票但是做成杯子做成紀念品那剛才談到像故宮事實上故宮也是跟我們合作是啊可是你賣的是那個郵票的那個幣值啊然後他賣的是整套的這個價值啊藝術價值啊\n阿文化幣用在集友跟郵政博物館我想這部分我們跟文化部這個要爭取啦因為既然我們郵政博物館要如果有心要好好的來投資要經營要讓他變得是更親近我們一般的人民讓一般的年輕家庭跟親子都可以進入我們的郵政博物館去\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及\n談好了之後,你接下來的紀念郵票跟接下來的這個棒球相關的,小人就可以用文化幣來買啊?是不是?報告員,這個我們來跟文化部這邊來商討這個議題。是嘛,我覺得就用創新的方法。\n創新的思維然後整體的行銷讓中華郵政這個我覺得非常棒的郵政博物館還有相關的這個紀念郵票郵務能夠開源然後能夠讓中華郵政真的煥然一新這對我們中華郵政的形象很有幫忙好不好以上謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.945 --> 00:07.508\n謝謝魯昭偉,那我們請部長還有中華郵政的王董事長。\n\n00:17.232 --> 00:32.343\n謝謝主席其實剛剛蔡委員在講的我們要做推展台灣那觀光很重要那事實上在交通部的轄下所有的單位應該要橫向的聯繫我今天要特別講的是什麼剛剛蔡委員講的我們最強的會長講的TeamTaiwan的冠軍遊輒\n\n00:39.147 --> 01:01.601\n這個他看起來是中華郵政的業務但是他也是種觀光行銷啊可是我看我們的橫向聯繫從來沒有大家都是各做各的那現在我先講中華郵政自己本身啊預購秒殺雖然剛剛董事長有說啊有我們這是第一波還有第二波那未來還有計畫但是呢我們要談的是什麼\n\n01:02.529 --> 01:24.866\n如何用比較新的觀念而且是跟得上時代的觀念來進行行銷。這個行銷不是只有在推我們中華郵政幫中華郵政賺錢這個行銷也是台灣可以向國際行銷賺國外的錢嘛對不對只是說我們我再講一次我看起來好像大家都是各做各的\n\n01:25.646 --> 01:44.356\n少了一個整合行銷的一個觀念部長這給你做參考我覺得觀光對我們交通部來講是一個重中之重的業務也是把台灣的國際形象搞好的一個最重要的關鍵所以這個產業大家也希望說政府能夠\n\n01:45.256 --> 01:47.398\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n\n02:03.909 --> 02:29.191\n這個王董事長你自己應該也知道這在你們網站上下來了我們從60年代我們呢不斷的只要在國際賽事上不管是少棒、輕棒、成棒只要有得冠軍有得獎項我們都會發行紀念郵票這個是已經民國60年到民國108年那今年是因為12強世界冠軍所以呢我們有那\n\n02:29.972 --> 02:49.377\n董事長,我們中華郵政裡面有沒有這樣子碰到這個天大的一個機會來行銷我們中華郵政這個是我們的強項也是我們獨佔市場的你有沒有想過說這是可以把它包裝行銷可以當作下一次的行銷為什麼?台灣棒球很棒台灣很用的\n\n02:51.437 --> 02:53.279\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算。\n\n03:03.359 --> 03:31.678\n包括最強的會長現在已經說那個獎盃是要巡迴台灣去做展示啊可是呢101開始爭取我們其他的單位還沒有人跳出來說要爭取我為什麼會說中華郵政在這一次可以做自己的行銷形象的行銷也可以做什麼賺錢的一個大最重要的機會行銷都在於行銷那要行銷要不要有人要有人啊我不知道中華郵政有沒有相關的這種\n\n03:34.139 --> 03:59.369\n行銷人才整套的,不是選了什麼做了什麼,董事長有嗎?有,我們現在有公共事務處,他是負責這個行銷,我跟委員報告這次事實上他們是,我們是三波高潮,明信片遊者紀念遊票,然後紀念遊票明年1、2、3接經典賽的這個預算,當然如果經典賽到複賽我們的冠軍,當然那時候一定要再花一次,\n\n04:00.429 --> 04:14.180\n所以我的意思是說那要多元的行銷對不對各式各樣只要能夠爭取曝光只要有行銷的機會都要那甚至觀光署在他的對外的網頁甚至在配合觀光的行銷運動也是一種行銷運動產業行銷台灣的運動產業那\n\n04:22.086 --> 04:36.315\n剛剛最強會長講了啊,你看大家日本韓國的球迷也會來這裡看棒球啊,那只要台灣有舉辦國際賽事,那也會來啊,是不是?比如台中也有啊,對不對?所以我的意思是說,我們交通部向下,\n\n04:37.136 --> 04:56.441\n推觀光推行銷我覺得是可以這個在民間企業叫做異業結合啦結盟啦大家可以互相合作拉抬嘛那甚至增加曝光的機會嘛對不對這個才是整套的一個我希望我們能夠有這樣子的人才啦\n\n04:57.052 --> 05:26.161\n我們來加強我們現在大概很多行銷是在委託其他這種行銷公司來處理那根本包括的確像12強這個也是我們中華郵政最近一波讓人家重視到我們的網站會掛掉是啊曾幾何時中華郵政的網站會被衝到掛掉那表示多熱啊對不對所以我們覺得爭取這一種尤其國家的這種非常榮耀的時刻\n\n05:27.209 --> 05:55.005\n當然就是配合部長這邊對於觀光的發展我們這個持續而且我覺得不僅僅它只是不僅僅是觀光行銷不僅僅只是幫中華郵政在累積盈餘賺錢重要它是一個歷史記憶這個東西留下來是一個紀念他買的人或者是參與的人對他來講這是他人生當中一個很光榮很重要的記憶所以郵票所以你會發行郵票那接下來\n\n05:55.825 --> 06:17.072\n要說專業要說觀光大家今天有人提到郵政博物館我剛剛為什麼說你要爭取這一個12強獎盃冠軍來做展因為你們有郵政博物館你們有場館可是你們的場館做得很不專業很不到位而且備受大家認為說\n\n06:19.537 --> 06:34.376\n你們第一個那個管理有問題第二個策展的專業有問題第三個連時間都會開放時間都是很官僚式的沒有任何其他的\n\n06:35.299 --> 06:38.581\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算\n\n06:51.169 --> 06:53.170\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算．\n\n07:10.711 --> 07:11.251\n董事長你知道嗎?\n\n07:38.670 --> 08:06.812\n我回答你這個問題跟部長討論以後我們今天開始所謂的本館本來就是只有休禮拜一現在三個分館從今天開始都是休禮拜一其他都開放第一個第二個地方郵局的管理是的確是在這一次我去三個這個郵輪館去看就是說它因為它原來是直接由我們郵由郵國館的總館來管所以它是以郵票為主\n\n08:07.752 --> 08:29.060\n但是我覺得這個有點可惜,台中剛剛開幕,委員可以看一下,事實上它非常精彩,我們是希望它變成一個郵政的生活館來看,這意思是說除了郵票以外,它有很多的文創的產品,還有一些歷史,它也是可以結合讓地方能夠去的一個地方。\n\n08:29.520 --> 08:33.003\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質\n\n08:53.079 --> 09:02.410\n這個都需要我們總公司的支持跟部長的支持啊是不是這個部分我們當然支持要有專業的策展是嘛你沒有專業的人的時候為什麼我要幫你們想裁員啊要開員嘛對不對那開員剛剛\n\n09:10.464 --> 09:24.211\n很多委員都講過你們容易瞭解啊怎麼開源來我提個例子故宮你知道故宮的禮品部有在展售你們中華郵政限量發行郵票你知道嗎然後呢你知道他們一套都賣多少嗎\n\n09:27.753 --> 09:49.726\n包裝以後比我們現在票值高很多。對。你們的按照你們的票值在賣可能一套幾百塊幾十塊。他呢一套是賣一千二、一千五甚至兩千以上。啊這個為什麼故宮人家會你們不會呢?你這是你所形成出來郵票耶。這麼值得紀念的一個郵票、套票。\n\n09:50.886 --> 10:16.678\n那怎麼不懂得去經營跟行銷呢?第二個我建議可以用文化幣如果你們願意包裝行銷故宮在賣你們中華郵政的郵票套票的時候他可以使用文化幣那會吸引更多的年輕人來來可能想要來買郵票嘛這也是行銷創新你們的思考啊對不對\n\n10:18.530 --> 10:22.680\n尤其我們文化幣現在要加碼喔13到15歲可以有600喔那現在15歲到18歲是有1200喔\n\n10:27.591 --> 10:48.899\n我跟各位報告就是說事實上在中華郵政有很多的創意商品就是類似他雖然是用郵票但是做成杯子做成紀念品那剛才談到像故宮事實上故宮也是跟我們合作是啊可是你賣的是那個郵票的那個幣值啊然後他賣的是整套的這個價值啊藝術價值啊\n\n10:50.680 --> 11:08.914\n阿文化幣用在集友跟郵政博物館我想這部分我們跟文化部這個要爭取啦因為既然我們郵政博物館要如果有心要好好的來投資要經營要讓他變得是更親近我們一般的人民讓一般的年輕家庭跟親子都可以進入我們的郵政博物館去\n\n11:09.835 --> 11:13.798\n二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及董事長及\n\n11:31.930 --> 11:47.530\n談好了之後,你接下來的紀念郵票跟接下來的這個棒球相關的,小人就可以用文化幣來買啊?是不是?報告員,這個我們來跟文化部這邊來商討這個議題。是嘛,我覺得就用創新的方法。\n\n11:48.731 --> 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TAIWAN冠軍郵摺」看起來是中華郵政的業務，但是它也是一種觀光行銷啊！可是我們從來都沒有橫向聯繫，大家都是各做各的。我先講，現在中華郵政的預購秒殺，雖然剛剛董事長說這是第一波，未來還有第二波和其他的計畫，但是我們要談的是什麼？我們要如何用比較新的觀念，而且是跟得上時代的觀念來進行行銷。這個行銷不是只有在推中華郵政、幫中華郵政賺錢，這個行銷也可以向國際行銷臺灣，賺國外的錢嘛！對不對？我再講一次，現在看起來大家都是各做各的，少了整合行銷的觀念。部長，這個給你做參考，我覺得觀光對交通部來講是重中之重的業務，也是把臺灣的國際形象搞好最重要的關鍵，所以這個產業、大家也希望政府能夠帶頭來拚臺灣的觀光，這整個產業鏈裡面所有的從業人口很多，還可以造就臺灣地方的經濟商機，這實在是影響很大。部長，這個提供給你參考。","為什麼我要講中華郵政？其實中華郵政有它過去的傳統，這個王董事長自己應該知道，這是從你們網站下載的。我們從60年代就不斷的，只要有國際賽事，不管是少棒、青棒或成棒，只要我們有得冠軍或獎項，我們都會發行紀念郵票，這個是從民國60年一直到108年，今年是因為12強賽世界冠軍，所以我們有發行。董事長，中華郵政碰到這麼天大的機會，你們有沒有藉此來行銷我們中華郵政？這個是我們的強項，也是我們獨占市場的，你有沒有想過，這個可以包裝行銷，可以當做下一次的行銷？為什麼？因為臺灣棒球很棒，臺灣很強，這也是臺灣棒球的發展史，所以不是只有這個郵摺或是後來的紀念郵票而已，這個可以整套的去行銷。","包括最強的會長現在已經說了，那個獎盃是要巡迴臺灣去做展示，可是呢？101開始爭取，可是其他的單位還沒有人跳出來說要爭取。為什麼我會說中華郵政這一次可以為自己做形象的行銷？因為賺錢最重要的機會就在於行銷，那行銷要不要有人？要有人啊！我不知道中華郵政有沒有相關的行銷人才？整套的，而不是想到什麼就做什麼。董事長，有嗎？"],["王董事長國材：有，我們現在有公共事務處，它負責行銷。我跟委員報告，事實上，這一次我們有三波高潮，明信片、郵摺和紀念郵票，然後紀念郵票明年還會接經典賽的預賽。當然，如果經典賽到複賽我們得了冠軍，當然那時候一定會再發一次。"],["何委員欣純：所以啊！我的意思是說要多元行銷，對不對？各式各樣，只要能夠爭取曝光、行銷的機會，我們都要。甚至觀光署對外的網頁，在配合觀光的行銷以外，運動也是一種行銷，運動產業也可以行銷臺灣，剛剛最強的會長也講了，日本和韓國的球迷也會來這裡看棒球，只要臺灣有舉辦國際賽事，他們也會來，是不是？譬如說：臺中也有啊！對不對？所以我的意思是說──交通部向下推觀光和行銷，也可以像民間企業一樣異業結盟，大家可以互相合作拉抬，甚至增加曝光的機會，對不對？這個才是整套的，我希望我們能夠有這樣的人才。"],["王董事長國材：我們來加強，我們現在有很多的行銷都是委託行銷公司來處理。跟委員報告，的確，像發行12強這個郵摺，這也是我們中華郵政最近這一波讓人家重視到我們的網站都掛掉了，這是過去沒有的。"],["何委員欣純：是啊！曾幾何時中華郵政的網站被衝到掛掉，那表示多熱啊！對不對？"],["王董事長國材：是，所以我們覺得爭取這種、尤其是國家非常榮耀的時刻，當然，還要配合部長這邊的觀光發展，我們會持續來進行。"],["何委員欣純：而且我覺得它不僅僅是觀光行銷，不僅僅是幫中華郵政累積盈餘、賺錢，更重要的是它是歷史記憶，這個東西留下來是一個紀念，對買的人或是參與的人來講，這是他人生中很光榮和重要的記憶，所以你會發行郵票。","接下來要說專業和觀光，今天也有人提到郵政博物館，為什麼我剛剛會說你要爭取12強冠軍獎盃來展覽？因為你們有郵政博物館這個場館，可是你們的場館做得很不專業、很不到位，而且大家都認為，第一個，管理有問題；第二個，策展的專業有問題；第三個，連開放的時間都很官僚式，沒有任何其他的配套。如果中華郵政要止血，不要繼續走老路、老套的話，就必須要想盡辦法打入年輕人、年輕化，這個郵政博物館就是讓你們接近年輕家庭一個很好的親子互動場所，那中華郵政為什麼不做得專業一點呢？為什麼不親切一點，讓年輕家庭可以接受？為什麼你們要發行12強冠軍的郵票？因為年輕人都在看棒球，不分年齡大家都在看棒球，要讓更多的人接受我們中華郵政，不是嗎？","郵政博物館裡面還蘊含我們的歷史和文化藝術，第一個，為什麼各館的開放時間不一致？第二個，管理的階層不一致？第三個，有沒有專業的策展人？董事長，你知道嗎？"],["王董事長國材：我跟委員報告，我回答你這一個問題，我跟部長討論以後，我們從今天開始，本館本來就只有休禮拜一，3個分館從今天開始只休禮拜一，其他時間都開放，這是第一個。第二個，地方郵局的管理，的確，這次我去3個郵博館看過後，因為他們原來是直接由郵博館的總館來管理，所以它是以郵票為主，但是我覺得這個有點可惜。"],["何委員欣純：很可惜，太單一了。"],["王董事長國材：臺中郵博館剛開幕，委員可以去看一下，事實上，它非常精采，我們是希望它可以變成郵政的生活館，這個意思是說，除了郵票以外，它也可以有很多的文創產品和歷史。它也可以結合地方，讓民眾能夠去的一個地方，如果是這樣的話，由地方就近來經營會比較好，大概是這樣的想法。"],["何委員欣純：但是經營要有專業、經營要有人力、經營要有人啊！總公司這邊、董事長這邊願不願意投資，好好的把郵政博物館和分館整理好來顯示它的專業，然後顯示出空間的改造？這個都需要總公司和部長的支持，是不是？"],["陳部長世凱：這個部分我們當然支持要有專業的策展單位。"],["何委員欣純：是嘛！你要有專業的人才，為什麼我要幫你們想財源？因為要開源，對不對？剛剛有很多委員都已經講過要開源，因為你們一直在虧錢，那要怎麼開源？我提一個例子，故宮的禮品部有在展售你們中華郵政的限量發行郵票，你知道嗎？"],["王董事長國材：我知道。"],["何委員欣純：你知道他們一套都賣多少嗎？"],["王董事長國材：包裝以後比我們原來的票值高很多。"],["何委員欣純：對，按照你們的票值來賣，一套可能只要幾百塊、幾十塊，但是他們一套是賣1,200元、1,500元，甚至是2,000元以上，為什麼這個故宮會，你們不會呢？這是你們所生產的郵票，這麼值得紀念的郵票、套票，你們怎麼不懂得經營和行銷呢？","第二個，我建議可以用文化幣，如果你們願意包裝行銷，故宮在賣你們中華郵政的郵票、套票時，它可以使用文化幣，那會吸引更多的年輕人來購買，這也是行銷，要創新你們的思考，對不對？尤其文化幣現在要加碼，13歲到15歲可以領取600元，15歲到18歲是1,200元。"],["王董事長國材：我跟委員報告，事實上，中華郵政有很多的創意商品，就是雖然它像郵票，但是它做成杯子或是紀念品。事實上，故宮也是跟我們合作。"],["何委員欣純：是啊！可是你賣的是郵票的票值，但是它賣的是整套的價值、藝術的價值。"],["王董事長國材：是，文化幣用在集郵或是郵政博物館，我想這部分我們會跟文化部和部長討論。"],["何委員欣純：這個要爭取，如果你們有心要好好的投資、經營郵政博物館，要讓它更親近我們一般的人民，要讓一般的年輕家庭跟親子都可以進入我們的郵政博物館去認識我們的郵票、歷史文化和它很有價值的紀念性郵票，甚至衍生出很多的文化創意產品，我覺得這也是我們中華郵政要開源的方法之一。文化幣是現成就可以讓年輕人拿著去購買，請儘快談好，接下來的紀念郵票或是與棒球有關的產品，年輕人就可以拿文化幣來購買了，難道不是嗎？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，我們會跟文化部商討這個議題。"],["何委員欣純：是嘛！"],["陳部長世凱：我們會來爭取。"],["何委員欣純：我覺得要用創新的方法和創新的思維，然後整體的行銷，要讓中華郵政這個我覺得非常棒的郵政博物館，還有相關的紀念郵票，郵務要能夠開源，要讓中華郵政真的煥然一新，這對我們中華郵政的形象很有幫助，好不好？以上，謝謝。"],["王董事長國材：謝謝委員的建議，謝謝。"],["陳部長世凱：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝何委員。","接下來有請徐富癸委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":78,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-23-16","speakers":["魯明哲","李昆澤","許智傑","林國成","林俊憲","廖先翔","陳素月","翁曉玲","蔡其昌","何欣純","徐富癸","楊瓊瓔","王義川","洪孟楷","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","陳雪生","羅廷瑋","張啓楷","邱若華","游顥","黃珊珊","葉元之","黃健豪","羅智強"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2024-12-18"],"gazette_id":"1141102","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1141102_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署署長及桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長就「如何提\n升過境及轉機旅客入境台灣觀光品質並增加觀光人數」進行專題報告，並備質詢；二、審查114\n年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算；三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案\n附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─觀光發展基金分預算；四、審查114年\n度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管中華郵政股份有限公司營業預算【僅\n進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1141102_00001"}}}