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\"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,629 --> 00:00:01,433\n好謝謝召委有請部長\n\n2\n00:00:09,954 --> 00:00:35,724\n部長好部長來自台中尤其是烏日市你的選區希望部長時時刻刻都可以心中有台中幾個問題來請教一下部長其中第一個我們今年10月15我們有針對台中高鐵娛樂城新建國道1號的閘道可能性江啟臣副院長有在辦公室幫我們召開一個會議部長有出席應該還有印象吧部長有當中有幾個事項想問一下辦理的進度有沒有遇到困難\n\n3\n00:00:36,645 --> 00:00:42,338\n國道1號新增閘道連接高鐵特區的初步評估作業可行性的評估請問辦理了嗎?\n\n4\n00:00:44,208 --> 00:01:10,976\n報告委員這個部分可行性評估要地方來申請。我想當時講到一百萬的一個評估經費,剛剛學生委員講一個五百萬,他不叫資深,我不叫蔡,沒關係我要一百就好了。我想這個評估經費一百萬,交通部是不是能夠幫忙一下。報告委員這個評估的經費,大家各方都有一定的計畫跟一定的比例。這邊我還是要真的要在這邊爭取。地方政府要來提出來。我想他們一定可以提出計畫。他們提出來我們會協助。\n\n5\n00:01:13,177 --> 00:01:36,677\n平估的經費只要他們願意提出是不是中央可以幫忙協助一下?但是我跟委員再報告一件事目前那個娛樂城他們自己對於周邊的整體的交圍的計畫他們自己有一筆預算那目前也交給台中市政府目前正在做整體的整個計畫其實我是比較建議就是說那個整體的計畫做完之後用哪裡真的有需要我們就來做\n\n6\n00:01:36,997 --> 00:02:00,903\n我知道沒關係那我如果他們提出其他的計畫希望後來你可以幫忙你可以幫忙協助嗎?好謝謝你的承諾那另外我想再跟你提到我們面對這個後裏啊麗寶樂園的周邊交通建設案態度是100分我們看到你們很積極的請國家之力來辦理但是現在面對高鐵娛樂城我想不只是現在我們遇到的國一增加閘道還有所謂的鐵路高架化\n\n7\n00:02:01,423 --> 00:02:19,180\n屋日到新屋日還有所謂的大慶、久德這個部分之前你擔任議員的時候我們也都會勘過當時在你之前你是我議員的學長我們會勘的時候應該是20幾億高價化到現在要50幾億高價化再不做會後悔\n\n8\n00:02:19,921 --> 00:02:36,912\n所以我想這個部分中央有中央的規定你們也跟我多次講你們就是要按照現在的規定做這樣子的一個財政的一個分配只能夠給予這樣子的補助我能夠體諒但是你能不能跟我確定你們現在能夠補助多少\n\n9\n00:02:37,732 --> 00:02:56,750\n報告委員這個金額大家還要再細算但目前的進度是這樣中央對於這個建設是相當的支持願意支持嗎?願意支持所以你公開承認你們支持願意給予補助我們一定會全力支持這個烏日這一段的鐵路的高架化那目前整個可行性研究地方正在修正我們還在等他回文\n\n10\n00:02:57,210 --> 00:03:19,290\n我想不只是新烏日站的升等為一級車站還有這個大慶站到新烏日的這個高架化我希望早一天農曆年前部長我已經有約你們辦公室我們是不是主動早一天去會刊把這個整體的交通一併的到位去看到不管是高鐵漁樂城不管是新烏日還有升級成一級站或者是大慶車站的一個高架化我們一起來看可以嗎?報告委員現在在\n\n11\n00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:22,191\n另外部長我想請問我們出國回國都會遇到一個問題行李轉盤等候的行李時間請問你認為等行李這件事情多久算合理?\n\n12\n00:03:47,425 --> 00:04:10,912\n對,你回國以後等行李轉盤的行李啊。對一般的旅客來說,如果到了行李轉盤的旁邊,等超過10分鐘就會覺得太久。好,搭飛機到日本關西機場跟大家分享,等行李的時間大概20分鐘。那你知道從關西機場回到台灣,等行李大概要等多久嗎?這個我不曉得。我前兩天我一個朋友出國回來,50分鐘。\n\n13\n00:04:13,608 --> 00:04:37,646\n問題的癥結點在哪裡我們先不要講我那個朋友可能是個案我們來看審計部的一個資料審計部資料包括媒體都有報導2023年5月至今日今年的3月各班機抵達行李經一個小時以上到行李轉盤的共有8612架次其中有幾個原因第一來機晚到\n\n14\n00:04:38,467 --> 00:04:56,383\n第二、飛機管制第三、班機調度第四、嚴重暴漲的原因是地勤作業我沒有要責備地勤人員但是地勤人員的人力不足早就多次被媒體報導出來我們是不是應該要來解決這個問題另外我再講的是\n\n15\n00:05:00,286 --> 00:05:26,575\n現在所有的人在這現場你們有沒有出過國大家有沒有這樣子的一個印象我自己有一個感覺啊我八點的飛機要飛日本我五點要到桃園機場我恨不得在台中就能搭機但是不行現在只能到桃園我們希望現階段到桃園就是三個小時前要到桃園機場checkin那請問一下我幾點要出發我三點要搭坐車\n\n16\n00:05:28,052 --> 00:05:32,796\n到桃園機場沒有高鐵座啊所以我等個晚上不用睡覺\n\n17\n00:05:34,144 --> 00:05:59,718\n我等於提早能夠出發對我來說我就是不用睡覺來換這對旅客來說是一個很痛苦的事情到底checkin的時間能不能提前縮短這部分來做一個研擬到後續我們拿到行李這個部分能不能縮短時效這部分我希望桃園機場是不是未來能夠給我們一個機會把這個部分來做一個專案然後來做一個檢討\n\n18\n00:06:00,618 --> 00:06:05,864\n三點出發我之前出國也是這樣子經驗一模一樣一模一樣當然就是整夜不用睡嘛尤其要帶小朋友小朋友也更辛苦一點我曾經有一次為了這樣子我八點吃安眠藥啦\n\n19\n00:06:19,278 --> 00:06:21,361\n所以我們一直在努力嘛之前我就在講台中人盼著虎航日本線希望已經幻滅啦明年呢\n\n20\n00:06:39,241 --> 00:07:01,589\n明年呢?台中武航?我想台中武航這個部分還是希望不要只飛兩個夏季航班然後又不飛。台中人要的是定期穩定的航班而不是夏季限定的航班。這個部分我想多方來做檢討。當然桃園機場可以再做一個檢討部分。我們台中機場是不是能夠增加更多的航線?能夠彌補這些時差?\n\n21\n00:07:03,690 --> 00:07:18,905\n這個都是我們要努力的但是我剛剛所提到的臺中要增加航班航線桃園機場是不是能夠縮短這些時間能夠讓旅客出門的時候開心而不是第一天很痛苦第一天只想到飯店效率上的提高是必然要做的\n\n22\n00:07:19,225 --> 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in的時間能不能提前縮短這部分來做一個研擬到後續我們拿到行李這個部分能不能縮短時效這部分我希望桃園機場是不是未來能夠給我們一個機會把這個部分來做一個專案然後來做一個檢討\n360618\t365864\t三點出發我之前出國也是這樣子經驗一模一樣一模一樣當然就是整夜不用睡嘛尤其要帶小朋友小朋友也更辛苦一點我曾經有一次為了這樣子我八點吃安眠藥啦\n379278\t381361\t所以我們一直在努力嘛之前我就在講台中人盼著虎航日本線希望已經幻滅啦明年呢\n399241\t421589\t明年呢?台中武航?我想台中武航這個部分還是希望不要只飛兩個夏季航班然後又不飛。台中人要的是定期穩定的航班而不是夏季限定的航班。這個部分我想多方來做檢討。當然桃園機場可以再做一個檢討部分。我們台中機場是不是能夠增加更多的航線?能夠彌補這些時差?\n423690\t438905\t這個都是我們要努力的但是我剛剛所提到的臺中要增加航班航線桃園機場是不是能夠縮短這些時間能夠讓旅客出門的時候開心而不是第一天很痛苦第一天只想到飯店效率上的提高是必然要做的\n439225\t467531\t這個部分您願意同意後續你會再追蹤這個部分嗎?審計部的報告寫得很清楚喔心理轉盤等的時間高達一個小時8000多班次能看嗎?桃機針對這個議題其實也會來做精進他們針對地勤也好或者航空公司會找來再開會再做精進的計畫我想時間有限我不想再念網路上的一些文章跟抱怨文其中不乏有地勤人員的一些抱怨文\n468231\t468311\t我們來請進,謝謝委員。\n","txt":"好謝謝召委有請部長\n部長好部長來自台中尤其是烏日市你的選區希望部長時時刻刻都可以心中有台中幾個問題來請教一下部長其中第一個我們今年10月15我們有針對台中高鐵娛樂城新建國道1號的閘道可能性江啟臣副院長有在辦公室幫我們召開一個會議部長有出席應該還有印象吧部長有當中有幾個事項想問一下辦理的進度有沒有遇到困難\n國道1號新增閘道連接高鐵特區的初步評估作業可行性的評估請問辦理了嗎?\n報告委員這個部分可行性評估要地方來申請。我想當時講到一百萬的一個評估經費,剛剛學生委員講一個五百萬,他不叫資深,我不叫蔡,沒關係我要一百就好了。我想這個評估經費一百萬,交通部是不是能夠幫忙一下。報告委員這個評估的經費,大家各方都有一定的計畫跟一定的比例。這邊我還是要真的要在這邊爭取。地方政府要來提出來。我想他們一定可以提出計畫。他們提出來我們會協助。\n平估的經費只要他們願意提出是不是中央可以幫忙協助一下?但是我跟委員再報告一件事目前那個娛樂城他們自己對於周邊的整體的交圍的計畫他們自己有一筆預算那目前也交給台中市政府目前正在做整體的整個計畫其實我是比較建議就是說那個整體的計畫做完之後用哪裡真的有需要我們就來做\n我知道沒關係那我如果他們提出其他的計畫希望後來你可以幫忙你可以幫忙協助嗎?好謝謝你的承諾那另外我想再跟你提到我們面對這個後裏啊麗寶樂園的周邊交通建設案態度是100分我們看到你們很積極的請國家之力來辦理但是現在面對高鐵娛樂城我想不只是現在我們遇到的國一增加閘道還有所謂的鐵路高架化\n屋日到新屋日還有所謂的大慶、久德這個部分之前你擔任議員的時候我們也都會勘過當時在你之前你是我議員的學長我們會勘的時候應該是20幾億高價化到現在要50幾億高價化再不做會後悔\n所以我想這個部分中央有中央的規定你們也跟我多次講你們就是要按照現在的規定做這樣子的一個財政的一個分配只能夠給予這樣子的補助我能夠體諒但是你能不能跟我確定你們現在能夠補助多少\n報告委員這個金額大家還要再細算但目前的進度是這樣中央對於這個建設是相當的支持願意支持嗎?願意支持所以你公開承認你們支持願意給予補助我們一定會全力支持這個烏日這一段的鐵路的高架化那目前整個可行性研究地方正在修正我們還在等他回文\n我想不只是新烏日站的升等為一級車站還有這個大慶站到新烏日的這個高架化我希望早一天農曆年前部長我已經有約你們辦公室我們是不是主動早一天去會刊把這個整體的交通一併的到位去看到不管是高鐵漁樂城不管是新烏日還有升級成一級站或者是大慶車站的一個高架化我們一起來看可以嗎?報告委員現在在\n另外部長我想請問我們出國回國都會遇到一個問題行李轉盤等候的行李時間請問你認為等行李這件事情多久算合理?\n對,你回國以後等行李轉盤的行李啊。對一般的旅客來說,如果到了行李轉盤的旁邊,等超過10分鐘就會覺得太久。好,搭飛機到日本關西機場跟大家分享,等行李的時間大概20分鐘。那你知道從關西機場回到台灣,等行李大概要等多久嗎?這個我不曉得。我前兩天我一個朋友出國回來,50分鐘。\n問題的癥結點在哪裡我們先不要講我那個朋友可能是個案我們來看審計部的一個資料審計部資料包括媒體都有報導2023年5月至今日今年的3月各班機抵達行李經一個小時以上到行李轉盤的共有8612架次其中有幾個原因第一來機晚到\n第二、飛機管制第三、班機調度第四、嚴重暴漲的原因是地勤作業我沒有要責備地勤人員但是地勤人員的人力不足早就多次被媒體報導出來我們是不是應該要來解決這個問題另外我再講的是\n現在所有的人在這現場你們有沒有出過國大家有沒有這樣子的一個印象我自己有一個感覺啊我八點的飛機要飛日本我五點要到桃園機場我恨不得在台中就能搭機但是不行現在只能到桃園我們希望現階段到桃園就是三個小時前要到桃園機場check 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01:10.976\n報告委員這個部分可行性評估要地方來申請。我想當時講到一百萬的一個評估經費,剛剛學生委員講一個五百萬,他不叫資深,我不叫蔡,沒關係我要一百就好了。我想這個評估經費一百萬,交通部是不是能夠幫忙一下。報告委員這個評估的經費,大家各方都有一定的計畫跟一定的比例。這邊我還是要真的要在這邊爭取。地方政府要來提出來。我想他們一定可以提出計畫。他們提出來我們會協助。\n\n01:13.177 --> 01:36.677\n平估的經費只要他們願意提出是不是中央可以幫忙協助一下?但是我跟委員再報告一件事目前那個娛樂城他們自己對於周邊的整體的交圍的計畫他們自己有一筆預算那目前也交給台中市政府目前正在做整體的整個計畫其實我是比較建議就是說那個整體的計畫做完之後用哪裡真的有需要我們就來做\n\n01:36.997 --> 02:00.903\n我知道沒關係那我如果他們提出其他的計畫希望後來你可以幫忙你可以幫忙協助嗎?好謝謝你的承諾那另外我想再跟你提到我們面對這個後裏啊麗寶樂園的周邊交通建設案態度是100分我們看到你們很積極的請國家之力來辦理但是現在面對高鐵娛樂城我想不只是現在我們遇到的國一增加閘道還有所謂的鐵路高架化\n\n02:01.423 --> 02:19.180\n屋日到新屋日還有所謂的大慶、久德這個部分之前你擔任議員的時候我們也都會勘過當時在你之前你是我議員的學長我們會勘的時候應該是20幾億高價化到現在要50幾億高價化再不做會後悔\n\n02:19.921 --> 02:36.912\n所以我想這個部分中央有中央的規定你們也跟我多次講你們就是要按照現在的規定做這樣子的一個財政的一個分配只能夠給予這樣子的補助我能夠體諒但是你能不能跟我確定你們現在能夠補助多少\n\n02:37.732 --> 02:56.750\n報告委員這個金額大家還要再細算但目前的進度是這樣中央對於這個建設是相當的支持願意支持嗎?願意支持所以你公開承認你們支持願意給予補助我們一定會全力支持這個烏日這一段的鐵路的高架化那目前整個可行性研究地方正在修正我們還在等他回文\n\n02:57.210 --> 03:19.290\n我想不只是新烏日站的升等為一級車站還有這個大慶站到新烏日的這個高架化我希望早一天農曆年前部長我已經有約你們辦公室我們是不是主動早一天去會刊把這個整體的交通一併的到位去看到不管是高鐵漁樂城不管是新烏日還有升級成一級站或者是大慶車站的一個高架化我們一起來看可以嗎?報告委員現在在\n\n03:19.770 --> 03:22.191\n另外部長我想請問我們出國回國都會遇到一個問題行李轉盤等候的行李時間請問你認為等行李這件事情多久算合理?\n\n03:47.425 --> 04:10.912\n對,你回國以後等行李轉盤的行李啊。對一般的旅客來說,如果到了行李轉盤的旁邊,等超過10分鐘就會覺得太久。好,搭飛機到日本關西機場跟大家分享,等行李的時間大概20分鐘。那你知道從關西機場回到台灣,等行李大概要等多久嗎?這個我不曉得。我前兩天我一個朋友出國回來,50分鐘。\n\n04:13.608 --> 04:37.646\n問題的癥結點在哪裡我們先不要講我那個朋友可能是個案我們來看審計部的一個資料審計部資料包括媒體都有報導2023年5月至今日今年的3月各班機抵達行李經一個小時以上到行李轉盤的共有8612架次其中有幾個原因第一來機晚到\n\n04:38.467 --> 04:56.383\n第二、飛機管制第三、班機調度第四、嚴重暴漲的原因是地勤作業我沒有要責備地勤人員但是地勤人員的人力不足早就多次被媒體報導出來我們是不是應該要來解決這個問題另外我再講的是\n\n05:00.286 --> 05:26.575\n現在所有的人在這現場你們有沒有出過國大家有沒有這樣子的一個印象我自己有一個感覺啊我八點的飛機要飛日本我五點要到桃園機場我恨不得在台中就能搭機但是不行現在只能到桃園我們希望現階段到桃園就是三個小時前要到桃園機場checkin那請問一下我幾點要出發我三點要搭坐車\n\n05:28.052 --> 05:32.796\n到桃園機場沒有高鐵座啊所以我等個晚上不用睡覺\n\n05:34.144 --> 05:59.718\n我等於提早能夠出發對我來說我就是不用睡覺來換這對旅客來說是一個很痛苦的事情到底checkin的時間能不能提前縮短這部分來做一個研擬到後續我們拿到行李這個部分能不能縮短時效這部分我希望桃園機場是不是未來能夠給我們一個機會把這個部分來做一個專案然後來做一個檢討\n\n06:00.618 --> 06:05.864\n三點出發我之前出國也是這樣子經驗一模一樣一模一樣當然就是整夜不用睡嘛尤其要帶小朋友小朋友也更辛苦一點我曾經有一次為了這樣子我八點吃安眠藥啦\n\n06:19.278 --> 06:21.361\n所以我們一直在努力嘛之前我就在講台中人盼著虎航日本線希望已經幻滅啦明年呢\n\n06:39.241 --> 07:01.589\n明年呢?台中武航?我想台中武航這個部分還是希望不要只飛兩個夏季航班然後又不飛。台中人要的是定期穩定的航班而不是夏季限定的航班。這個部分我想多方來做檢討。當然桃園機場可以再做一個檢討部分。我們台中機場是不是能夠增加更多的航線?能夠彌補這些時差?\n\n07:03.690 --> 07:18.905\n這個都是我們要努力的但是我剛剛所提到的臺中要增加航班航線桃園機場是不是能夠縮短這些時間能夠讓旅客出門的時候開心而不是第一天很痛苦第一天只想到飯店效率上的提高是必然要做的\n\n07:19.225 --> 07:47.531\n這個部分您願意同意後續你會再追蹤這個部分嗎?審計部的報告寫得很清楚喔心理轉盤等的時間高達一個小時8000多班次能看嗎?桃機針對這個議題其實也會來做精進他們針對地勤也好或者航空公司會找來再開會再做精進的計畫我想時間有限我不想再念網路上的一些文章跟抱怨文其中不乏有地勤人員的一些抱怨文\n\n07:48.231 --> 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