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00:01:48,116\n最近比特幣就一路的飆漲而且美國的上市公司金融機構大家也爭相的去投入投資有關於虛擬貨幣的業務或者是相關的服務\n\n6\n00:01:53,652 --> 00:02:20,705\n像川普包含他支持說要國家建立國家戰略的比特幣的儲備當然這個部分我應該是問中央銀行還有包括他也對新的金管他們美國證管會SEC的主席也換下來是比較保守的上來的就是處於比較開放而且是幣圈中的人士\n\n7\n00:02:21,685 --> 00:02:40,915\n所以在這樣的一個趨勢下在過去我們也曾經關心我們金管會有關於這個虛擬貨幣的相關的專法那我想請問一下主委這些相關的專法還有政策目前你們的進度是什麼\n\n8\n00:02:41,975 --> 00:03:07,612\n還有會不會隨著川普當選我剛剛講美國的政策出現極大改變我們會不會加快進度或者更加的鬆綁跟委員報告一下就是說其實我們對於虛擬資產是按部就班的在執行剛剛的話我覺得我們是非常的謹慎但是呢我們是這個態度其實我們也參考了我們周圍一些國家的制定比如說像對這個東西\n\n9\n00:03:09,313 --> 00:03:37,360\n我們倒不會因為一個國家加速而改變我們是想要參考比如說其他國家的法制作業的時候我們來做一個因為畢竟這都新的東西美國他現在未來會怎麼做還在觀察比如說歐盟的MICA還有像比如說我們對新加坡他們對這個的管理這些都很值得我們來參考所以我們最近呢是這樣我們11月30號的時候我們公布了那個VASP打詐的那個就是那個洗錢的專法以後呢就進入到另外一個更高的層次在管制這個行業這是第一步\n\n10\n00:03:41,802 --> 00:04:06,035\n我們開放專業投資人可以投資這個比特幣的ETF這件事情我們還在那個事情中那再來就是說剛剛委員關切的專法的部分那專法的部分很重要就是他開始對這個機構做管理還對他的交易做管理還對消費者保護做管理這部分我們正在討論我們的委員研究已經出來了我們正在內部在討論還有正在吸收各\n\n11\n00:04:07,195 --> 00:04:16,098\n各界的意見來定我們的專法的這些的草案的內容大概是這樣那個主委我覺得剛剛我從你的那個口中我覺得我們目前儘管會還是屬於比較保守的那當然因為對於虛擬貨幣其實台灣基本上我們的相關的法規目前比較停留在所謂的防幣別說在\n\n12\n00:04:29,842 --> 00:04:51,236\n防治洗錢的部分但是我剛才講因為你今天看參考其他的國家其實你參考亞洲的國家他的意義又不大一樣我剛特別講到美國因為美國他一定會帶動全世界那所以包含他的上市櫃公司他們現在也開始更加積極的去投資虛擬貨幣\n\n13\n00:04:53,658 --> 00:05:14,514\n那比如台灣可能那個還是有受到比如說我們的一些會計準則的相關的規定那麼也會影響這個企業界他去投資那我想請問的就是說如果我比較擔心的是如果我們現在的我們的心態仍然是屬於比較保守的話我們可能會被動的\n\n14\n00:05:15,955 --> 00:05:30,789\n備動的要去因應外界這些相關的這個金融市場會出現翻天動地的這個變化那我另外請教一下事實上在現在金融市場包含我們的一些傳統的金融機構\n\n15\n00:05:32,270 --> 00:05:47,259\n那他們也很想涉足包含虛擬貨幣的相關的服務我還不講說是投資他是一些相關的服務那另外呢別說像我們的投信你剛講說可以放寬這個專業人士專業人士去投資ETF那好那但是我們現在我們並沒有開放虛擬貨幣的ETF對不對\n\n16\n00:05:58,226 --> 00:06:19,558\n我們現在是可以投國外的對只能投國外的嘛用副委託的方式嘛那但是呢這個市場其實這個是一定會很快的走走到這一步所以我剛講包含他們提供相關的服務還有比如國內的投信業者他們也會想說我可不可以發行\n\n17\n00:06:21,099 --> 00:06:46,052\n虛擬貨幣的ETF之類的那我想請問這個在未來我們的這個虛擬貨幣虛擬這個資產的相關的專法裡面會不會把這邊也也會把它納入我在這邊其實我都是在打預防針因為我覺得我們現在美國大選前跟美國大選後對虛擬貨幣的思維一定要有所改變\n\n18\n00:06:46,832 --> 00:07:10,640\n其實我們也是當然我剛跟委員講說美國當然是世界上非常重要的國家他的政策當然對全世界影響但我們的步驟是按照這個來走我剛講我們6月底之前會把那個這個我們的方案送進行政院剛剛有提到銀行的部分我們在明年1月1號開始就開放銀行去申請保管虛擬資產\n\n19\n00:07:13,323 --> 00:07:21,483\n這個事辦我們從1月1號因為我們這法規從12月就頒布但是我們是從1月1號才開始請他們準備一下可以來申請\n\n20\n00:07:23,194 --> 00:07:25,856\n可以申請但是什麼時候可以上路呢?\n\n21\n00:07:53,334 --> 00:08:04,021\n有關我們正常的這些的金融機構去從事這個所謂的虛擬資產業務的部分我們現在還是先從我們的虛擬資產服務業的管理來開始來做當然這部分我也會請我們的同仁也會關注這樣的一個發展所以我們暫時不會開放傳統的金融機構\n\n22\n00:08:17,210 --> 00:08:17,931\n會不會開放發行虛擬貨幣的ETF?\n\n23\n00:08:31,074 --> 00:08:46,007\n這我們還要再來想一下所以短期間不會短期間如果說在這幾個月之內我想應該是不太可能我覺得這個東西可能你們都要做比較進一步的決定沒有這都會納入我們的考量因為有時間關係\n\n24\n00:08:47,868 --> 00:09:08,494\n還有一個是大家非常關心我之前也有質詢那個主委也有來跟我在做說明那因為最近我仍然有我們的很多的選民在關心就是呢那個有關於保單不能強制執行的部分我們的現在進度到底在哪裡我現在還被人家一直追著問啊有很多人更關心啊\n\n25\n00:09:09,194 --> 00:09:31,275\n現在的話我們當然就是還在跟各個委員在溝通的階段就是把那個版本就跟我們草案已經出來了所以你們沒有送到行政院到目前沒有出金管會大門先溝通完後我們立刻會送過去但是最近我們會加快這個速度那什麼時候可以我想如果說希望在這個會期之前能夠送進去\n\n26\n00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:49,130\n這個會期之前我們是要到明年了啊?盡快,如果這個月能夠的話我就盡快完成所以今年年底能不能拼?不曉得我要講就是說那另外就是你不可強制執行的這個額度是不是還是跟你上一次,因為我上次質詢你的還是基本上是在那個標準\n\n27\n00:09:50,792 --> 00:10:09,108\n就是解約金額10萬到20萬還是這樣子嗎?還是會更放寬一點不要再更嚴了啦不要再更嚴格了我想這個部分大概就是類似這樣這樣因為還要共生我們只是提出一個方向而已所以要等到今年就拼今年年底把它送出去\n\n28\n00:10:09,768 --> 00:10:25,286\n對這是我們這也是我們今年這個會期列入我們金管會的優先推動了對其實明年很重要因為這件事情有非常多的很多的我們的一般的選民真的而且都是有些是弱勢的選民因為現在有幾十萬件\n\n29\n00:10:26,067 --> 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資產服務業的管理來開始來做當然這部分我也會請我們的同仁也會關注這樣的一個發展所以我們暫時不會開放傳統的金融機構\n會不會開放發行虛擬貨幣的ETF?\n這我們還要再來想一下所以短期間不會短期間如果說在這幾個月之內我想應該是不太可能我覺得這個東西可能你們都要做比較進一步的決定沒有這都會納入我們的考量因為有時間關係\n還有一個是大家非常關心我之前也有質詢那個主委也有來跟我在做說明那因為最近我仍然有我們的很多的選民在關心就是呢那個有關於保單不能強制執行的部分我們的現在進度到底在哪裡我現在還被人家一直追著問啊有很多人更關心啊\n現在的話我們當然就是還在跟各個委員在溝通的階段就是把那個版本就跟我們草案已經出來了所以你們沒有送到行政院到目前沒有出金管會大門先溝通完後我們立刻會送過去但是最近我們會加快這個速度那什麼時候可以我想如果說希望在這個會期之前能夠送進去\n這個會期之前我們是要到明年了啊?盡快,如果這個月能夠的話我就盡快完成所以今年年底能不能拼?不曉得我要講就是說那另外就是你不可強制執行的這個額度是不是還是跟你上一次,因為我上次質詢你的還是基本上是在那個標準\n就是解約金額10萬到20萬還是這樣子嗎?還是會更放寬一點不要再更嚴了啦不要再更嚴格了我想這個部分大概就是類似這樣這樣因為還要共生我們只是提出一個方向而已所以要等到今年就拼今年年底把它送出去\n對這是我們這也是我們今年這個會期列入我們金管會的優先推動了對其實明年很重要因為這件事情有非常多的很多的我們的一般的選民真的而且都是有些是弱勢的選民因為現在有幾十萬件\n接著我們請李坤臣委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.710 --> 00:26.850\n謝謝主席請那個彭主委我想未來就是我們金管會的一些相關的業務有很多有挑戰性那當然最近大家比較聚焦於這個朱令公司我這邊最近可能會有一些就是也是有那種集體受害的\n\n00:27.631 --> 00:34.135\n因為等於說對於資訊整個不對等那麼造成這些比較屬於在融資市場比較邊緣性的客戶他們一個受害的一個狀況那另外呢我想請教就是說因為我們馬上要審金管會的預算說實在金管會的預算也不到20億啦他其實金額是很少\n\n00:51.664 --> 01:16.963\n但是金管會的業務、法規、政策卻非常重要我今天要就教於主委的就是大家都知道美國大選已經結束川普當選川普當選對全世界的當然地緣政治、經濟、金融市場都會有很多很多的挑戰所以我在這邊想請教一下主委\n\n01:17.543 --> 01:19.205\n在川普當選之後因為他對於虛擬貨幣極為友善而且顯而易見的未來在美國作為一個金融的領導的市場他會有非常多的大的改變\n\n01:35.361 --> 01:48.116\n最近比特幣就一路的飆漲而且美國的上市公司金融機構大家也爭相的去投入投資有關於虛擬貨幣的業務或者是相關的服務\n\n01:53.652 --> 02:20.705\n像川普包含他支持說要國家建立國家戰略的比特幣的儲備當然這個部分我應該是問中央銀行還有包括他也對新的金管他們美國證管會SEC的主席也換下來是比較保守的上來的就是處於比較開放而且是幣圈中的人士\n\n02:21.685 --> 02:40.915\n所以在這樣的一個趨勢下在過去我們也曾經關心我們金管會有關於這個虛擬貨幣的相關的專法那我想請問一下主委這些相關的專法還有政策目前你們的進度是什麼\n\n02:41.975 --> 03:07.612\n還有會不會隨著川普當選我剛剛講美國的政策出現極大改變我們會不會加快進度或者更加的鬆綁跟委員報告一下就是說其實我們對於虛擬資產是按部就班的在執行剛剛的話我覺得我們是非常的謹慎但是呢我們是這個態度其實我們也參考了我們周圍一些國家的制定比如說像對這個東西\n\n03:09.313 --> 03:37.360\n我們倒不會因為一個國家加速而改變我們是想要參考比如說其他國家的法制作業的時候我們來做一個因為畢竟這都新的東西美國他現在未來會怎麼做還在觀察比如說歐盟的MICA還有像比如說我們對新加坡他們對這個的管理這些都很值得我們來參考所以我們最近呢是這樣我們11月30號的時候我們公布了那個VASP打詐的那個就是那個洗錢的專法以後呢就進入到另外一個更高的層次在管制這個行業這是第一步\n\n03:41.802 --> 04:06.035\n我們開放專業投資人可以投資這個比特幣的ETF這件事情我們還在那個事情中那再來就是說剛剛委員關切的專法的部分那專法的部分很重要就是他開始對這個機構做管理還對他的交易做管理還對消費者保護做管理這部分我們正在討論我們的委員研究已經出來了我們正在內部在討論還有正在吸收各\n\n04:07.195 --> 04:16.098\n各界的意見來定我們的專法的這些的草案的內容大概是這樣那個主委我覺得剛剛我從你的那個口中我覺得我們目前儘管會還是屬於比較保守的那當然因為對於虛擬貨幣其實台灣基本上我們的相關的法規目前比較停留在所謂的防幣別說在\n\n04:29.842 --> 04:51.236\n防治洗錢的部分但是我剛才講因為你今天看參考其他的國家其實你參考亞洲的國家他的意義又不大一樣我剛特別講到美國因為美國他一定會帶動全世界那所以包含他的上市櫃公司他們現在也開始更加積極的去投資虛擬貨幣\n\n04:53.658 --> 05:14.514\n那比如台灣可能那個還是有受到比如說我們的一些會計準則的相關的規定那麼也會影響這個企業界他去投資那我想請問的就是說如果我比較擔心的是如果我們現在的我們的心態仍然是屬於比較保守的話我們可能會被動的\n\n05:15.955 --> 05:30.789\n備動的要去因應外界這些相關的這個金融市場會出現翻天動地的這個變化那我另外請教一下事實上在現在金融市場包含我們的一些傳統的金融機構\n\n05:32.270 --> 05:47.259\n那他們也很想涉足包含虛擬貨幣的相關的服務我還不講說是投資他是一些相關的服務那另外呢別說像我們的投信你剛講說可以放寬這個專業人士專業人士去投資ETF那好那但是我們現在我們並沒有開放虛擬貨幣的ETF對不對\n\n05:58.226 --> 06:19.558\n我們現在是可以投國外的對只能投國外的嘛用副委託的方式嘛那但是呢這個市場其實這個是一定會很快的走走到這一步所以我剛講包含他們提供相關的服務還有比如國內的投信業者他們也會想說我可不可以發行\n\n06:21.099 --> 06:46.052\n虛擬貨幣的ETF之類的那我想請問這個在未來我們的這個虛擬貨幣虛擬這個資產的相關的專法裡面會不會把這邊也也會把它納入我在這邊其實我都是在打預防針因為我覺得我們現在美國大選前跟美國大選後對虛擬貨幣的思維一定要有所改變\n\n06:46.832 --> 07:10.640\n其實我們也是當然我剛跟委員講說美國當然是世界上非常重要的國家他的政策當然對全世界影響但我們的步驟是按照這個來走我剛講我們6月底之前會把那個這個我們的方案送進行政院剛剛有提到銀行的部分我們在明年1月1號開始就開放銀行去申請保管虛擬資產\n\n07:13.323 --> 07:21.483\n這個事辦我們從1月1號因為我們這法規從12月就頒布但是我們是從1月1號才開始請他們準備一下可以來申請\n\n07:23.194 --> 07:25.856\n可以申請但是什麼時候可以上路呢?\n\n07:53.334 --> 08:04.021\n有關我們正常的這些的金融機構去從事這個所謂的虛擬資產業務的部分我們現在還是先從我們的虛擬資產服務業的管理來開始來做當然這部分我也會請我們的同仁也會關注這樣的一個發展所以我們暫時不會開放傳統的金融機構\n\n08:17.210 --> 08:17.931\n會不會開放發行虛擬貨幣的ETF?\n\n08:31.074 --> 08:46.007\n這我們還要再來想一下所以短期間不會短期間如果說在這幾個月之內我想應該是不太可能我覺得這個東西可能你們都要做比較進一步的決定沒有這都會納入我們的考量因為有時間關係\n\n08:47.868 --> 09:08.494\n還有一個是大家非常關心我之前也有質詢那個主委也有來跟我在做說明那因為最近我仍然有我們的很多的選民在關心就是呢那個有關於保單不能強制執行的部分我們的現在進度到底在哪裡我現在還被人家一直追著問啊有很多人更關心啊\n\n09:09.194 --> 09:31.275\n現在的話我們當然就是還在跟各個委員在溝通的階段就是把那個版本就跟我們草案已經出來了所以你們沒有送到行政院到目前沒有出金管會大門先溝通完後我們立刻會送過去但是最近我們會加快這個速度那什麼時候可以我想如果說希望在這個會期之前能夠送進去\n\n09:32.489 --> 09:49.130\n這個會期之前我們是要到明年了啊?盡快,如果這個月能夠的話我就盡快完成所以今年年底能不能拼?不曉得我要講就是說那另外就是你不可強制執行的這個額度是不是還是跟你上一次,因為我上次質詢你的還是基本上是在那個標準\n\n09:50.792 --> 10:09.108\n就是解約金額10萬到20萬還是這樣子嗎?還是會更放寬一點不要再更嚴了啦不要再更嚴格了我想這個部分大概就是類似這樣這樣因為還要共生我們只是提出一個方向而已所以要等到今年就拼今年年底把它送出去\n\n10:09.768 --> 10:25.286\n對這是我們這也是我們今年這個會期列入我們金管會的優先推動了對其實明年很重要因為這件事情有非常多的很多的我們的一般的選民真的而且都是有些是弱勢的選民因為現在有幾十萬件\n\n10:26.067 --> 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國一定會帶動全世界，所以包含它的上市櫃公司，他們現在也開始更加積極地去投資虛擬貨幣，臺灣可能還是有受到我們的一些會計準則的相關規定，也會影響企業界去投資。我比較擔心的是，如果現在我們的心態仍然是屬於比較保守的話，我們可能會被動的要去因應外界這些相關的金融市場會出現翻天動地的變化。","另外，我請教一下，事實上，現在的金融市場，包含我們一些傳統的金融機構，他們也很想涉足包含虛擬貨幣的相關服務……"],["彭主任委員金隆：是的。"],["王委員鴻薇：我還不說是投資，而是一些相關的服務，另外，比如說像我們的投信，你剛剛說可以放寬專業人士去投資ETF，好，但是我們現在並沒有開放虛擬貨幣的ETF嘛，對不對？"],["彭主任委員金隆：我們現在是可以投國外的。"],["王委員鴻薇：對，只能投國外的嘛，用複委託的方式嘛！"],["彭主任委員金隆：是的。"],["王委員鴻薇：但是這個市場一定會很快地走到這一步，所以我剛剛講，包含他們提供相關的服務，還有比如國內的投信業者也會想說可不可以發行虛擬貨幣的ETF之類的，我想請問，在未來我們的虛擬貨幣、虛擬資產的相關專法裡面，會不會把這邊也納入？我在這邊其實都是在打預防針啦！"],["彭主任委員金隆：是。"],["王委員鴻薇：因為我覺得在美國大選前跟美國大選後，對於虛擬貨幣的思維一定要有所改變。"],["彭主任委員金隆：其實我們也是……當然啦，我剛剛跟委員講說，美國當然是世界上非常重要的國家，它的政策當然對全世界會有影響，但我們的步驟是按照這個來走，我剛剛講我們在6月底之前會把我們的方案送進行政院嘛，剛剛也有提到，銀行的部分，我們在明年1月1號開始就開放銀行去申請保管虛擬資產，這個試辦從1月1號開始，因為我們的法規從12月就頒布了，但是我們是1月1號才開始請他們準備一下可以來申請。","再來就是我們要……"],["王委員鴻薇：可以申請，但是什麼時候可以上路呢？"],["彭主任委員金隆：申請試辦以後，只要我們同意它試辦，立刻就可以開始做了，就只是試辦的性質啦，等於說這部分它要來申請試辦，不是全面開放，就是來試辦的人，我們要看它的技術，還有安控有沒有符合要求，就是讓它做做看，實際上就是上路的意思啦，但不是全面的，等到試辦成功了，我們有一定的規範，我們就可以考慮是否要走下一步，這是第一個。","第二個，有關我們正常的這些金融機構去從事所謂的虛擬資產業務的部分，我們現在還是先從虛擬資產服務業的管理開始來做，當然，這部分我也會請我們的同仁要關注這樣的發展……"],["王委員鴻薇：所以我們暫時不會開放傳統的金融機構去做虛擬資產的服務？"],["彭主任委員金隆：這個部分還要再評估，但是我們會儘量的讓他們用漸進的方式去涉獵到未來的這些所謂金融科技的領域。"],["王委員鴻薇：好，另外就是會不會開放發行虛擬貨幣的ETF？"],["彭主任委員金隆：這個我們還要再來想一下。"],["王委員鴻薇：所以短期間不會？"],["彭主任委員金隆：短期間，如果是說在這幾個月之內，我想應該是不太可能。"],["王委員鴻薇：我覺得這個東西可能你們都要做比較進一步的探討……"],["彭主任委員金隆：沒有，這都會納入我們的考量。"],["王委員鴻薇：好，因為時間的關係，還有一個是大家非常關心的，我之前也有質詢過，主委也有來跟我做說明，因為最近仍然有很多選民在關心，就是有關於保單不能強制執行的部分，你們現在的進度到底在哪裡？我現在還被人家一直追著問耶，因為這個問題很多人都在關心啊！"],["彭主任委員金隆：現在的話，我們還在跟各個委員溝通的階段，我們的草案已經出來了……"],["王委員鴻薇：所以你們還沒有送到行政院？到目前沒有出金管會大門？"],["彭主任委員金隆：沒有，我們要先溝通完畢，之後我們立刻會送過去，最近我們會加快這個速度。"],["王委員鴻薇：什麼時候可以？"],["彭主任委員金隆：我希望在這個會期之前能夠送進去。"],["王委員鴻薇：這個會期之前，是要到明年了啊！"],["彭主任委員金隆：儘快，如果這個月能夠的話，我就儘快完成這件事。"],["王委員鴻薇：所以今年年底能不能拚不曉得？"],["彭主任委員金隆：我要……"],["王委員鴻薇：我要講的就是說，另外，你不可強制執行的這個額度是不是還是跟你上一次所說的一樣，我上次質詢你的，基本上還是在那個標準？"],["彭主任委員金隆：對，我們是……"],["王委員鴻薇：就是解約金額10萬到20萬，還是這樣子嗎？"],["彭主任委員金隆：差不多就是……"],["王委員鴻薇：還是會更放寬一點？不要再更嚴了啦！不要再更嚴格了！"],["彭主任委員金隆：沒有，我想這個部分大概就是類似像這樣，因為還要有一個共識，我們只是提出一個方向而已。"],["王委員鴻薇：所以要拚今年年底把它送出去，是不是？"],["彭主任委員金隆：對，這個也是今年這個會期列入我們金管會優先要推動的法案。"],["王委員鴻薇：對，其實明年很重要，因為這件事情關係到很多的一般選民，而且有些是弱勢的選民……"],["彭主任委員金隆：我也非常急，因為現在有幾十萬件還在……"],["王委員鴻薇：都卡在法院啊，對不對？"],["彭主任委員金隆：對，因為我們這個解決方案可以解決掉七、八成的這個問題，我們也非常希望趕快能夠實施。"],["王委員鴻薇：對，我希望能夠儘快、儘快，好不好？"],["彭主任委員金隆：是，希望委員以後多多幫忙。"],["王委員鴻薇：好，謝謝。"],["彭主任委員金隆：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝王鴻薇委員。","接著請李坤城委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":286,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-11","speakers":["陳玉珍","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","賴惠員","王鴻薇","李坤城","李彥秀","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","顏寬恒","黃珊珊","郭國文","洪孟楷","羅明才","葉元之","楊瓊瓔"],"page_start":209,"meetingDate":["2024-12-19"],"gazette_id":"1140901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1140901_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會、銀行局、證券期貨局、\n保險局、檢查局收支部分（僅詢答）；二、審查中華民國 114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預\n算營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有限公司（僅詢答）；三、審查中\n華民國 114 年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管：\n（僅詢答）(一)特別收入基金─金融監督管理基金、(二)信託基金─保險業務發展基金","agenda_id":"1140901_00002"}}}