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00:01:10,416\n不是全世界的股市互相聯動應該講全世界的股市互相聯動但是不是所有的股市向我們放春節這個這很多問題這個我們會例行性我還是提醒主委啦因為新的一年那金管會一定要掌握好這個股市的派對美國總統也要上任了那國際情勢、地緣政治還有國際股市的升降期、通膨等等這些因素都要掌控好我們希望說台股能夠繼續穩健的成長\n\n5\n00:01:12,677 --> 00:01:39,854\n金融業正面臨數位轉型還有永續轉型的雙重挑戰在這個關鍵的時刻金管會扮演著這個引領的角色那透過政策的規劃還有創新支持那協助這個金融業能夠順利的轉型那並且提升整體的競爭力那主委你特別強調說在轉型這個數位轉型的浪潮當中這個金融業應該加強數位能力還有科技應用能力對不對這你強調過\n\n6\n00:01:41,575 --> 00:02:06,241\n建構具有國際競爭力的一個數位金融體系為了實現這個數位轉型還有永續轉型的常理目標金融會預計在明年要成立金融市場發展及創新處可不可以請教主委在這邊說明這個創新處的業務是什麼那你希望他達到什麼樣的目標如何幫助我國在金融方面能夠更進一步\n\n7\n00:02:06,641 --> 00:02:32,486\n好謝謝委員剛剛委員提到沒有錯金融業它面對整個全社會的數位轉型一定要提升它自己的科技能力以及數位應用能力怎麼樣把數位科技發展出來應用在各個的所謂的營業活動層面上那我們剛才提到就是說我們明年就是要設立這個金融市場發展與創新處主要是\n\n8\n00:02:33,186 --> 00:02:34,668\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n\n9\n00:02:49,286 --> 00:03:12,252\n永續金融科那第四個就是市場發展科我想從這個名稱就可以看出來我們未來對這個市場有什麼樣的期待那跟委員做這簡單的說明那你在114年度的預算案中這個一般行政就是說要新設立的這個我們這個創新處一般行政還有金融監理的這個計畫向下共編列了2100多萬的一個預算\n\n10\n00:03:16,693 --> 00:03:35,689\n那我對於金融會要設立這個創新處的必要性還有他肩負的這個責任我表示理解那也認同說要推動數位轉型還有永續發展這個重要性但是新創的一個機構需要投入很多的經費啦但是希望說應該要注重說這個經費運用的效率跟他的效益\n\n11\n00:03:37,010 --> 00:04:03,908\n請教主委這兩千多萬是要花在哪裡第一個主要是一個很大一部分就是人事費我想這個就是人事聘人就是錢第二個就是他有新的處需要新的辦公處所我們花了一千多萬就是要裝潢那個二十幾位同仁的這些辦公室跟辦公設備採購這些辦公設備但是我跟主委強調因為還是當省則省我們現在看到很多預算都非常不合理那我當然知道我們主委\n\n12\n00:04:05,525 --> 00:04:28,342\n應該是會嚴格把關嚴格審核每一筆經費的必要性跟合理性我們要拒絕不必要的開銷那也期望說金管會在推動創新處的同時有效的來控制經費的支出做得多用得少確保每份資金都可以發揮到它應有的價值主委我再請教主委就是虛擬貨幣市場的問題\n\n13\n00:04:31,204 --> 00:04:41,311\n那虛擬貨幣市場的監理是民眾高度關注的因為隨著市場規模越來越大然後技術發展的日新月異那對於這個金融市場的穩定還有民眾財產安全\n\n14\n00:04:45,895 --> 00:05:03,485\n這大家最關心了這財產安全的部分那所以我虛擬貨幣涉及的這個範疇非常的廣泛不管是資金流動、交易監控還是境外的資金運作都對現行的監理機制這個非常大的挑戰\n\n15\n00:05:05,404 --> 00:05:08,287\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n\n16\n00:05:25,669 --> 00:05:40,203\n去年12月就已經展開這個專案調查那發現我們國內的企業這個不管是內部控管、法規遵循方面還有客戶審查這些交易監控不足的問題你們對於有4家\n\n17\n00:05:41,104 --> 00:06:10,063\n有4家業者提出的這個罰款累計超過550萬是經檢對超過550萬這樣子做得對啦就是要這樣做但是我相信不只這樣啦對今年我們還在持續檢查對對對不只這樣那我們要把這些害群之馬還是說這些存著僥倖心態的這些業者要嚴格的控管不可以如果業者屢勸不聽你們提出祭出罰款之後那一樣是屢勸不聽那這樣子一再一再的\n\n18\n00:06:11,431 --> 00:06:22,608\n一再的這個犯錯那對於他的內部控管還有法規遵循的部分儘管會除了罰款之外你能夠採取什麼樣更進一步的手段\n\n19\n00:06:23,337 --> 00:06:49,114\n我想這個我們如果馬上有專法的話我們該有的機構管理的東西我們全部都會用那現在是以洗錢防治為主嘛那主要是未來這個專法出來以後呢他就是可以想像就是一個我們對這個機構的管理那機構包括人員發照、撤照這些都是還有一些處分都會都會完備所以主委專法速度一定要快啊所以我們現在已經在進行中\n\n20\n00:06:50,816 --> 00:07:07,235\n我們現在的草案我們在內部在密集的討論還在討論那我們1月會對外公聽然後6月底前會送進行政院我想未來期待在開法規範還有這個教育投資人\n\n21\n00:07:08,176 --> 00:07:21,227\n這部分我相信一定要更全面的作為讓大家更清楚了解打造一個透明公平還有穩定的一個虛擬市場的一個環境好不好是當然好謝謝主委那我接著請營養局的莊局長委員好局長請教局長我先前這個質詢的時候就有提到因為這個防止遊戲點數詐騙的問題\n\n22\n00:07:36,383 --> 00:08:05,469\n那你們提出的方案是說回歸由發卡行來強化本身這個信用卡的一個風險控管那主委你先請回謝謝這個部分就是說你們就是說強調說就是把這個案子回歸由發卡行來控管避免說他們內部的問題外部化這是你們的說法那這個部分但是你們預計說今年年底就是即將到的年底就可以上路是這樣子嗎\n\n23\n00:08:06,249 --> 00:08:23,198\n報告委員除了這個方航的控管之外因為當時遊戲業者他們也有參與這樣子的討論他們是說他們主動說願意說跟銀行之間有一個聯防的機制所以這個部分的話會繼續再討論下去還在討論對\n\n24\n00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:49,003\n所以現在是跟各大銀行溝通討論嘛還沒有訂一個期程嘛因為那個方卡機構自己的控管本來就已經有了啦他們自己內部的機制要控管其實比較容易那至於討論的沒有落實啊因為我現在不斷的接到陳情就是都一直有這些詐騙的這種行為不斷的在發生所以我要告訴你就是說\n\n25\n00:08:50,660 --> 00:09:14,157\n我接到民眾的陳情他在臉書上他在臉書上面去要去買那個火影忍者火影忍者名人的一番賞模型那個在4000多塊4700塊那對方給他一個條碼要他去超商繳款那他自己也很疑惑啊他不確定啊但是他對方一直催他說你不去繳他就賣給別人啊那他就\n\n26\n00:09:15,526 --> 00:09:20,370\n不得不只好去繳啦結果繳了之後才發現說那4700塊是用來幫對方買那個娛樂城的點數娛樂城你知道嗎娛樂城\n\n27\n00:09:28,074 --> 00:09:46,661\n就是網路下注那一種有很多種娛樂城不管是賭博的還是遊戲的都是那一種當然他們付了之後就找不到人了就會放鳥了對方也不回他了所以事先去就被騙走了那他有去警局報案報案之後也發現說對方是慣犯\n\n28\n00:09:48,522 --> 00:10:02,615\n用同樣的手法騙了很多人一樣的手法可以持續的這樣子詐騙不管那個是小錢還是大錢有這個4千7就有4萬7就有47萬就有400萬我們每天臺灣目前每天受到詐騙的金額\n\n29\n00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:28,246\n好幾億啦,其實這個公布的數字是一億兩億那一年是三四百億,其實不止啦那只是冰山一角啦所以說這個部分我是想說像你們114年度的預算案銀行監理編入了731萬7千元說目的要健全這個銀行業務的管理那我認為說這個進步的空間太大了\n\n30\n00:10:28,846 --> 00:10:47,054\n局長你有什麼看法因為時間有限你光112年的詐騙案件發生數是37000多件112年比111年比他的前一年多出了8300件征服是28.17%這個是有揭露的跟你講真的是沒揭露的很多\n\n31\n00:10:49,975 --> 00:11:13,772\n有可能是他的數倍啦所以這部分我相信是沒有這些措施我們知道金管會祭出了很多防詐打詐的措施但是我們真的是沒有得到滿意的這樣子的效果所以我們要期許金管會、銀行局加強這個監管的力道好不好好委員會我們會盡量對一定要落實啦愛走啦好謝謝好謝謝允寬藤委員接著我們請黃珊珊委員\n\n32\n00:11:24,287 --> 00:11:24,531\n每個月。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4393\t8736\t主席各位列席委員大家好主席有請監管會彭主委\n12192\t27561\t委員會主委好主委2025年的台股行事曆已經出爐了那全年台股交易日有246天那農曆年休市11天就是史上第二場僅次於2023年的12天\n30163\t45433\t那請問主委說有沒有掌握休市這麼多天之後股市的波動那還有就請教主委對於明年一整年股市你有什麼期許可不可以簡單說明其實這是每年我們都會遇到的例行只是長短的差別因為通常我們\n46494\t70416\t不是全世界的股市互相聯動應該講全世界的股市互相聯動但是不是所有的股市向我們放春節這個這很多問題這個我們會例行性我還是提醒主委啦因為新的一年那金管會一定要掌握好這個股市的派對美國總統也要上任了那國際情勢、地緣政治還有國際股市的升降期、通膨等等這些因素都要掌控好我們希望說台股能夠繼續穩健的成長\n72677\t99854\t金融業正面臨數位轉型還有永續轉型的雙重挑戰在這個關鍵的時刻金管會扮演著這個引領的角色那透過政策的規劃還有創新支持那協助這個金融業能夠順利的轉型那並且提升整體的競爭力那主委你特別強調說在轉型這個數位轉型的浪潮當中這個金融業應該加強數位能力還有科技應用能力對不對這你強調過\n101575\t126241\t建構具有國際競爭力的一個數位金融體系為了實現這個數位轉型還有永續轉型的常理目標金融會預計在明年要成立金融市場發展及創新處可不可以請教主委在這邊說明這個創新處的業務是什麼那你希望他達到什麼樣的目標如何幫助我國在金融方面能夠更進一步\n126641\t152486\t好 謝謝委員剛剛委員提到沒有錯金融業它面對整個全社會的數位轉型一定要提升它自己的科技能力以及數位應用能力怎麼樣把數位科技發展出來應用在各個的所謂的營業活動層面上那我們剛才提到就是說我們明年就是要設立這個金融市場發展與創新處主要是\n153186\t154668\t有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n169286\t192252\t永續金融科那第四個就是市場發展科我想從這個名稱就可以看出來我們未來對這個市場有什麼樣的期待那跟委員做這簡單的說明那你在114年度的預算案中這個一般行政就是說要新設立的這個我們這個創新處一般行政還有金融監理的這個計畫向下共編列了2100多萬的一個預算\n196693\t215689\t那我對於金融會要設立這個創新處的必要性還有他肩負的這個責任我表示理解那也認同說要推動數位轉型還有永續發展這個重要性但是新創的一個機構需要投入很多的經費啦但是希望說應該要注重說這個經費運用的效率跟他的效益\n217010\t243908\t請教主委這兩千多萬是要花在哪裡第一個主要是一個很大一部分就是人事費我想這個就是人事聘人就是錢第二個就是他有新的處需要新的辦公處所我們花了一千多萬就是要裝潢那個二十幾位同仁的這些辦公室跟辦公設備採購這些辦公設備但是我跟主委強調因為還是當省則省我們現在看到很多預算都非常不合理那我當然知道我們主委\n245525\t268342\t應該是會嚴格把關嚴格審核每一筆經費的必要性跟合理性我們要拒絕不必要的開銷那也期望說金管會在推動創新處的同時有效的來控制經費的支出做得多用得少確保每份資金都可以發揮到它應有的價值主委我再請教主委就是虛擬貨幣市場的問題\n271204\t281311\t那虛擬貨幣市場的監理是民眾高度關注的因為隨著市場規模越來越大然後技術發展的日新月異那對於這個金融市場的穩定還有民眾財產安全\n285895\t303485\t這大家最關心了這財產安全的部分那所以我虛擬貨幣涉及的這個範疇非常的廣泛不管是資金流動、交易監控還是境外的資金運作都對現行的監理機制這個非常大的挑戰\n305404\t308287\t有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n325669\t340203\t去年12月就已經展開這個專案調查那發現我們國內的企業這個不管是內部控管、法規遵循方面還有客戶審查這些交易監控不足的問題你們對於有4家\n341104\t370063\t有4家業者提出的這個罰款累計超過550萬是 經檢對 超過550萬這樣子做得對啦就是要這樣做但是我相信不只這樣啦對 今年我們還在持續檢查對對對 不只這樣那我們要把這些害群之馬還是說這些存著僥倖心態的這些業者要嚴格的控管不可以 如果業者屢勸不聽你們提出 祭出罰款之後那一樣是屢勸不聽那這樣子一再 一再的\n371431\t382608\t一再的這個犯錯那對於他的內部控管還有法規遵循的部分儘管會除了罰款之外你能夠採取什麼樣更進一步的手段\n383337\t409114\t我想這個我們如果馬上有專法的話我們該有的機構管理的東西我們全部都會用那現在是以洗錢防治為主嘛那主要是未來這個專法出來以後呢他就是可以想像就是一個我們對這個機構的管理那機構包括人員發照、撤照這些都是還有一些處分都會都會完備所以主委專法速度一定要快啊所以我們現在已經在進行中\n410816\t427235\t我們現在的草案我們在內部在密集的討論還在討論那我們1月會對外公聽然後6月底前會送進行政院我想未來期待在開法規範還有這個教育投資人\n428176\t441227\t這部分我相信一定要更全面的作為讓大家更清楚了解打造一個透明公平還有穩定的一個虛擬市場的一個環境好不好是當然好謝謝主委那我接著請營養局的莊局長委員好局長請教局長我先前這個質詢的時候就有提到因為這個防止遊戲點數詐騙的問題\n456383\t485469\t那你們提出的方案是說回歸由發卡行來強化本身這個信用卡的一個風險控管那主委你先請回謝謝這個部分就是說你們就是說強調說就是把這個案子回歸由發卡行來控管避免說他們內部的問題外部化這是你們的說法那這個部分但是你們預計說今年年底就是即將到的年底就可以上路是這樣子嗎\n486249\t503198\t報告委員除了這個方航的控管之外因為當時遊戲業者他們也有參與這樣子的討論他們是說他們主動說願意說跟銀行之間有一個聯防的機制所以這個部分的話會繼續再討論下去還在討論對\n505839\t529003\t所以現在是跟各大銀行溝通討論嘛還沒有訂一個期程嘛因為那個方卡機構自己的控管本來就已經有了啦他們自己內部的機制要控管其實比較容易那至於討論的沒有落實啊因為我現在不斷的接到陳情就是都一直有這些詐騙的這種行為不斷的在發生所以我要告訴你就是說\n530660\t554157\t我接到民眾的陳情他在臉書上他在臉書上面去要去買那個火影忍者火影忍者名人的一番賞模型那個在4000多塊4700塊那對方給他一個條碼要他去超商繳款那他自己也很疑惑啊他不確定啊但是他對方一直催他說你不去繳他就賣給別人啊那他就\n555526\t560370\t不得不只好去繳啦結果繳了之後才發現說那4700塊是用來幫對方買那個娛樂城的點數娛樂城你知道嗎娛樂城\n568074\t586661\t就是網路下注那一種有很多種娛樂城不管是賭博的還是遊戲的都是那一種當然他們付了之後就找不到人了就會放鳥了對方也不回他了所以事先去就被騙走了那他有去警局報案報案之後也發現說對方是慣犯\n588522\t602615\t用同樣的手法騙了很多人一樣的手法可以持續的這樣子詐騙不管那個是小錢還是大錢有這個4千7就有4萬7就有47萬就有400萬我們每天臺灣目前每天受到詐騙的金額\n604312\t628246\t好幾億啦,其實這個公布的數字是一億兩億那一年是三四百億,其實不止啦那只是冰山一角啦所以說這個部分我是想說像你們114年度的預算案銀行監理編入了731萬7千元說目的要健全這個銀行業務的管理那我認為說這個進步的空間太大了\n628846\t647054\t局長你有什麼看法因為時間有限你光112年的詐騙案件發生數是37000多件112年比111年比他的前一年多出了8300件征服是28.17%這個是有揭露的跟你講真的是沒揭露的很多\n649975\t673772\t有可能是他的數倍啦所以這部分我相信是沒有這些措施我們知道金管會祭出了很多防詐打詐的措施但是我們真的是沒有得到滿意的這樣子的效果所以我們要期許金管會、銀行局加強這個監管的力道好不好好委員會我們會盡量對一定要落實啦愛走啦好謝謝好謝謝允寬藤委員接著我們請黃珊珊委員\n684287\t684531\t每個月。\n","txt":"主席各位列席委員大家好主席有請監管會彭主委\n委員會主委好主委2025年的台股行事曆已經出爐了那全年台股交易日有246天那農曆年休市11天就是史上第二場僅次於2023年的12天\n那請問主委說有沒有掌握休市這麼多天之後股市的波動那還有就請教主委對於明年一整年股市你有什麼期許可不可以簡單說明其實這是每年我們都會遇到的例行只是長短的差別因為通常我們\n不是全世界的股市互相聯動應該講全世界的股市互相聯動但是不是所有的股市向我們放春節這個這很多問題這個我們會例行性我還是提醒主委啦因為新的一年那金管會一定要掌握好這個股市的派對美國總統也要上任了那國際情勢、地緣政治還有國際股市的升降期、通膨等等這些因素都要掌控好我們希望說台股能夠繼續穩健的成長\n金融業正面臨數位轉型還有永續轉型的雙重挑戰在這個關鍵的時刻金管會扮演著這個引領的角色那透過政策的規劃還有創新支持那協助這個金融業能夠順利的轉型那並且提升整體的競爭力那主委你特別強調說在轉型這個數位轉型的浪潮當中這個金融業應該加強數位能力還有科技應用能力對不對這你強調過\n建構具有國際競爭力的一個數位金融體系為了實現這個數位轉型還有永續轉型的常理目標金融會預計在明年要成立金融市場發展及創新處可不可以請教主委在這邊說明這個創新處的業務是什麼那你希望他達到什麼樣的目標如何幫助我國在金融方面能夠更進一步\n好 謝謝委員剛剛委員提到沒有錯金融業它面對整個全社會的數位轉型一定要提升它自己的科技能力以及數位應用能力怎麼樣把數位科技發展出來應用在各個的所謂的營業活動層面上那我們剛才提到就是說我們明年就是要設立這個金融市場發展與創新處主要是\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n永續金融科那第四個就是市場發展科我想從這個名稱就可以看出來我們未來對這個市場有什麼樣的期待那跟委員做這簡單的說明那你在114年度的預算案中這個一般行政就是說要新設立的這個我們這個創新處一般行政還有金融監理的這個計畫向下共編列了2100多萬的一個預算\n那我對於金融會要設立這個創新處的必要性還有他肩負的這個責任我表示理解那也認同說要推動數位轉型還有永續發展這個重要性但是新創的一個機構需要投入很多的經費啦但是希望說應該要注重說這個經費運用的效率跟他的效益\n請教主委這兩千多萬是要花在哪裡第一個主要是一個很大一部分就是人事費我想這個就是人事聘人就是錢第二個就是他有新的處需要新的辦公處所我們花了一千多萬就是要裝潢那個二十幾位同仁的這些辦公室跟辦公設備採購這些辦公設備但是我跟主委強調因為還是當省則省我們現在看到很多預算都非常不合理那我當然知道我們主委\n應該是會嚴格把關嚴格審核每一筆經費的必要性跟合理性我們要拒絕不必要的開銷那也期望說金管會在推動創新處的同時有效的來控制經費的支出做得多用得少確保每份資金都可以發揮到它應有的價值主委我再請教主委就是虛擬貨幣市場的問題\n那虛擬貨幣市場的監理是民眾高度關注的因為隨著市場規模越來越大然後技術發展的日新月異那對於這個金融市場的穩定還有民眾財產安全\n這大家最關心了這財產安全的部分那所以我虛擬貨幣涉及的這個範疇非常的廣泛不管是資金流動、交易監控還是境外的資金運作都對現行的監理機制這個非常大的挑戰\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n去年12月就已經展開這個專案調查那發現我們國內的企業這個不管是內部控管、法規遵循方面還有客戶審查這些交易監控不足的問題你們對於有4家\n有4家業者提出的這個罰款累計超過550萬是 經檢對 超過550萬這樣子做得對啦就是要這樣做但是我相信不只這樣啦對 今年我們還在持續檢查對對對 不只這樣那我們要把這些害群之馬還是說這些存著僥倖心態的這些業者要嚴格的控管不可以 如果業者屢勸不聽你們提出 祭出罰款之後那一樣是屢勸不聽那這樣子一再 一再的\n一再的這個犯錯那對於他的內部控管還有法規遵循的部分儘管會除了罰款之外你能夠採取什麼樣更進一步的手段\n我想這個我們如果馬上有專法的話我們該有的機構管理的東西我們全部都會用那現在是以洗錢防治為主嘛那主要是未來這個專法出來以後呢他就是可以想像就是一個我們對這個機構的管理那機構包括人員發照、撤照這些都是還有一些處分都會都會完備所以主委專法速度一定要快啊所以我們現在已經在進行中\n我們現在的草案我們在內部在密集的討論還在討論那我們1月會對外公聽然後6月底前會送進行政院我想未來期待在開法規範還有這個教育投資人\n這部分我相信一定要更全面的作為讓大家更清楚了解打造一個透明公平還有穩定的一個虛擬市場的一個環境好不好是當然好謝謝主委那我接著請營養局的莊局長委員好局長請教局長我先前這個質詢的時候就有提到因為這個防止遊戲點數詐騙的問題\n那你們提出的方案是說回歸由發卡行來強化本身這個信用卡的一個風險控管那主委你先請回謝謝這個部分就是說你們就是說強調說就是把這個案子回歸由發卡行來控管避免說他們內部的問題外部化這是你們的說法那這個部分但是你們預計說今年年底就是即將到的年底就可以上路是這樣子嗎\n報告委員除了這個方航的控管之外因為當時遊戲業者他們也有參與這樣子的討論他們是說他們主動說願意說跟銀行之間有一個聯防的機制所以這個部分的話會繼續再討論下去還在討論對\n所以現在是跟各大銀行溝通討論嘛還沒有訂一個期程嘛因為那個方卡機構自己的控管本來就已經有了啦他們自己內部的機制要控管其實比較容易那至於討論的沒有落實啊因為我現在不斷的接到陳情就是都一直有這些詐騙的這種行為不斷的在發生所以我要告訴你就是說\n我接到民眾的陳情他在臉書上他在臉書上面去要去買那個火影忍者火影忍者名人的一番賞模型那個在4000多塊4700塊那對方給他一個條碼要他去超商繳款那他自己也很疑惑啊他不確定啊但是他對方一直催他說你不去繳他就賣給別人啊那他就\n不得不只好去繳啦結果繳了之後才發現說那4700塊是用來幫對方買那個娛樂城的點數娛樂城你知道嗎娛樂城\n就是網路下注那一種有很多種娛樂城不管是賭博的還是遊戲的都是那一種當然他們付了之後就找不到人了就會放鳥了對方也不回他了所以事先去就被騙走了那他有去警局報案報案之後也發現說對方是慣犯\n用同樣的手法騙了很多人一樣的手法可以持續的這樣子詐騙不管那個是小錢還是大錢有這個4千7就有4萬7就有47萬就有400萬我們每天臺灣目前每天受到詐騙的金額\n好幾億啦,其實這個公布的數字是一億兩億那一年是三四百億,其實不止啦那只是冰山一角啦所以說這個部分我是想說像你們114年度的預算案銀行監理編入了731萬7千元說目的要健全這個銀行業務的管理那我認為說這個進步的空間太大了\n局長你有什麼看法因為時間有限你光112年的詐騙案件發生數是37000多件112年比111年比他的前一年多出了8300件征服是28.17%這個是有揭露的跟你講真的是沒揭露的很多\n有可能是他的數倍啦所以這部分我相信是沒有這些措施我們知道金管會祭出了很多防詐打詐的措施但是我們真的是沒有得到滿意的這樣子的效果所以我們要期許金管會、銀行局加強這個監管的力道好不好好委員會我們會盡量對一定要落實啦愛走啦好謝謝好謝謝允寬藤委員接著我們請黃珊珊委員\n每個月。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.393 --> 00:08.736\n主席各位列席委員大家好主席有請監管會彭主委\n\n00:12.192 --> 00:27.561\n委員會主委好主委2025年的台股行事曆已經出爐了那全年台股交易日有246天那農曆年休市11天就是史上第二場僅次於2023年的12天\n\n00:30.163 --> 00:45.433\n那請問主委說有沒有掌握休市這麼多天之後股市的波動那還有就請教主委對於明年一整年股市你有什麼期許可不可以簡單說明其實這是每年我們都會遇到的例行只是長短的差別因為通常我們\n\n00:46.494 --> 01:10.416\n不是全世界的股市互相聯動應該講全世界的股市互相聯動但是不是所有的股市向我們放春節這個這很多問題這個我們會例行性我還是提醒主委啦因為新的一年那金管會一定要掌握好這個股市的派對美國總統也要上任了那國際情勢、地緣政治還有國際股市的升降期、通膨等等這些因素都要掌控好我們希望說台股能夠繼續穩健的成長\n\n01:12.677 --> 01:39.854\n金融業正面臨數位轉型還有永續轉型的雙重挑戰在這個關鍵的時刻金管會扮演著這個引領的角色那透過政策的規劃還有創新支持那協助這個金融業能夠順利的轉型那並且提升整體的競爭力那主委你特別強調說在轉型這個數位轉型的浪潮當中這個金融業應該加強數位能力還有科技應用能力對不對這你強調過\n\n01:41.575 --> 02:06.241\n建構具有國際競爭力的一個數位金融體系為了實現這個數位轉型還有永續轉型的常理目標金融會預計在明年要成立金融市場發展及創新處可不可以請教主委在這邊說明這個創新處的業務是什麼那你希望他達到什麼樣的目標如何幫助我國在金融方面能夠更進一步\n\n02:06.641 --> 02:32.486\n好謝謝委員剛剛委員提到沒有錯金融業它面對整個全社會的數位轉型一定要提升它自己的科技能力以及數位應用能力怎麼樣把數位科技發展出來應用在各個的所謂的營業活動層面上那我們剛才提到就是說我們明年就是要設立這個金融市場發展與創新處主要是\n\n02:33.186 --> 02:34.668\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n\n02:49.286 --> 03:12.252\n永續金融科那第四個就是市場發展科我想從這個名稱就可以看出來我們未來對這個市場有什麼樣的期待那跟委員做這簡單的說明那你在114年度的預算案中這個一般行政就是說要新設立的這個我們這個創新處一般行政還有金融監理的這個計畫向下共編列了2100多萬的一個預算\n\n03:16.693 --> 03:35.689\n那我對於金融會要設立這個創新處的必要性還有他肩負的這個責任我表示理解那也認同說要推動數位轉型還有永續發展這個重要性但是新創的一個機構需要投入很多的經費啦但是希望說應該要注重說這個經費運用的效率跟他的效益\n\n03:37.010 --> 04:03.908\n請教主委這兩千多萬是要花在哪裡第一個主要是一個很大一部分就是人事費我想這個就是人事聘人就是錢第二個就是他有新的處需要新的辦公處所我們花了一千多萬就是要裝潢那個二十幾位同仁的這些辦公室跟辦公設備採購這些辦公設備但是我跟主委強調因為還是當省則省我們現在看到很多預算都非常不合理那我當然知道我們主委\n\n04:05.525 --> 04:28.342\n應該是會嚴格把關嚴格審核每一筆經費的必要性跟合理性我們要拒絕不必要的開銷那也期望說金管會在推動創新處的同時有效的來控制經費的支出做得多用得少確保每份資金都可以發揮到它應有的價值主委我再請教主委就是虛擬貨幣市場的問題\n\n04:31.204 --> 04:41.311\n那虛擬貨幣市場的監理是民眾高度關注的因為隨著市場規模越來越大然後技術發展的日新月異那對於這個金融市場的穩定還有民眾財產安全\n\n04:45.895 --> 05:03.485\n這大家最關心了這財產安全的部分那所以我虛擬貨幣涉及的這個範疇非常的廣泛不管是資金流動、交易監控還是境外的資金運作都對現行的監理機制這個非常大的挑戰\n\n05:05.404 --> 05:08.287\n有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有\n\n05:25.669 --> 05:40.203\n去年12月就已經展開這個專案調查那發現我們國內的企業這個不管是內部控管、法規遵循方面還有客戶審查這些交易監控不足的問題你們對於有4家\n\n05:41.104 --> 06:10.063\n有4家業者提出的這個罰款累計超過550萬是經檢對超過550萬這樣子做得對啦就是要這樣做但是我相信不只這樣啦對今年我們還在持續檢查對對對不只這樣那我們要把這些害群之馬還是說這些存著僥倖心態的這些業者要嚴格的控管不可以如果業者屢勸不聽你們提出祭出罰款之後那一樣是屢勸不聽那這樣子一再一再的\n\n06:11.431 --> 06:22.608\n一再的這個犯錯那對於他的內部控管還有法規遵循的部分儘管會除了罰款之外你能夠採取什麼樣更進一步的手段\n\n06:23.337 --> 06:49.114\n我想這個我們如果馬上有專法的話我們該有的機構管理的東西我們全部都會用那現在是以洗錢防治為主嘛那主要是未來這個專法出來以後呢他就是可以想像就是一個我們對這個機構的管理那機構包括人員發照、撤照這些都是還有一些處分都會都會完備所以主委專法速度一定要快啊所以我們現在已經在進行中\n\n06:50.816 --> 07:07.235\n我們現在的草案我們在內部在密集的討論還在討論那我們1月會對外公聽然後6月底前會送進行政院我想未來期待在開法規範還有這個教育投資人\n\n07:08.176 --> 07:21.227\n這部分我相信一定要更全面的作為讓大家更清楚了解打造一個透明公平還有穩定的一個虛擬市場的一個環境好不好是當然好謝謝主委那我接著請營養局的莊局長委員好局長請教局長我先前這個質詢的時候就有提到因為這個防止遊戲點數詐騙的問題\n\n07:36.383 --> 08:05.469\n那你們提出的方案是說回歸由發卡行來強化本身這個信用卡的一個風險控管那主委你先請回謝謝這個部分就是說你們就是說強調說就是把這個案子回歸由發卡行來控管避免說他們內部的問題外部化這是你們的說法那這個部分但是你們預計說今年年底就是即將到的年底就可以上路是這樣子嗎\n\n08:06.249 --> 08:23.198\n報告委員除了這個方航的控管之外因為當時遊戲業者他們也有參與這樣子的討論他們是說他們主動說願意說跟銀行之間有一個聯防的機制所以這個部分的話會繼續再討論下去還在討論對\n\n08:25.839 --> 08:49.003\n所以現在是跟各大銀行溝通討論嘛還沒有訂一個期程嘛因為那個方卡機構自己的控管本來就已經有了啦他們自己內部的機制要控管其實比較容易那至於討論的沒有落實啊因為我現在不斷的接到陳情就是都一直有這些詐騙的這種行為不斷的在發生所以我要告訴你就是說\n\n08:50.660 --> 09:14.157\n我接到民眾的陳情他在臉書上他在臉書上面去要去買那個火影忍者火影忍者名人的一番賞模型那個在4000多塊4700塊那對方給他一個條碼要他去超商繳款那他自己也很疑惑啊他不確定啊但是他對方一直催他說你不去繳他就賣給別人啊那他就\n\n09:15.526 --> 09:20.370\n不得不只好去繳啦結果繳了之後才發現說那4700塊是用來幫對方買那個娛樂城的點數娛樂城你知道嗎娛樂城\n\n09:28.074 --> 09:46.661\n就是網路下注那一種有很多種娛樂城不管是賭博的還是遊戲的都是那一種當然他們付了之後就找不到人了就會放鳥了對方也不回他了所以事先去就被騙走了那他有去警局報案報案之後也發現說對方是慣犯\n\n09:48.522 --> 10:02.615\n用同樣的手法騙了很多人一樣的手法可以持續的這樣子詐騙不管那個是小錢還是大錢有這個4千7就有4萬7就有47萬就有400萬我們每天臺灣目前每天受到詐騙的金額\n\n10:04.312 --> 10:28.246\n好幾億啦,其實這個公布的數字是一億兩億那一年是三四百億,其實不止啦那只是冰山一角啦所以說這個部分我是想說像你們114年度的預算案銀行監理編入了731萬7千元說目的要健全這個銀行業務的管理那我認為說這個進步的空間太大了\n\n10:28.846 --> 10:47.054\n局長你有什麼看法因為時間有限你光112年的詐騙案件發生數是37000多件112年比111年比他的前一年多出了8300件征服是28.17%這個是有揭露的跟你講真的是沒揭露的很多\n\n10:49.975 --> 11:13.772\n有可能是他的數倍啦所以這部分我相信是沒有這些措施我們知道金管會祭出了很多防詐打詐的措施但是我們真的是沒有得到滿意的這樣子的效果所以我們要期許金管會、銀行局加強這個監管的力道好不好好委員會我們會盡量對一定要落實啦愛走啦好謝謝好謝謝允寬藤委員接著我們請黃珊珊委員\n\n11:24.287 --> 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