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00:00:28,529\n主委謝謝黃主委主委好你們今晚會的辦公地點應該在我們板橋吧是板橋高鐵站樓上我知道但是呢包括剛剛大家提關心的亞洲資產管理中心包括探權交易所全部都移到高雄去設立那你在板橋你應該知道我們板橋其實最近發展也不錯不管也都有相關的條件為什麼你什麼都想到高雄啊就不會想到你的所在地板橋\n\n2\n00:00:29,629 --> 00:00:50,340\n沒問題昨天那個我想那個前天院長在參加的活動他講說他希望我們這個所謂的金融資產管理專業能夠遍地開花各個縣市如果說願意提出他們的特色那我們金管會都很樂意的去協助跟配合所以你現在設到高雄都是高雄提出來的需求\n\n3\n00:00:51,300 --> 00:01:13,165\n那為什麼高雄永遠都知道你們要幹嘛沒有沒有他們是兩三年前我們他們就已經在規劃這件事情然後你們就好我是建議啦因為相信我不需要去跟您強調板橋的優勢啦因為你所在地就在那邊啦對啦那這個希望說你在設立相關的中心的時候未來可能有別的東西的時候可以考慮一下你們辦公的所在地\n\n4\n00:01:16,146 --> 00:01:35,577\n第二個我想問一個問題是之前郭志輝、經濟部長郭志輝說雲豹能源炒股票故意放假消息出去然後股價就漲了非常多然後後來證交所有講說如果金茶有這個問題的話就有刑責要移送減掉那現在已經一個月了我不知道茶怎麼樣\n\n5\n00:01:36,997 --> 00:01:52,053\n現在的話可不可以請鎮議員我們確實交易所按照程序在辦理我請我們的鎮議局局長跟您簡單回答跟委員報告這個事情其實在鎮交所已經進行查處了所以現在的狀況是怎樣\n\n6\n00:01:54,589 --> 00:02:18,809\n查處的結果認為是說他的資訊沒有控管得很好誰的資訊沒有控管得很好銀豹公司對重大信息的控制沒有控制得很好對重大信息也就是說他公司對外發布的信息會讓人家聯想說你是不是有跟所以你的意思是說確實銀豹公司有跟別人講說那個回答要來這邊設廠然後需要多少電\n\n7\n00:02:20,170 --> 00:02:42,944\n不是因為是他回答並沒有跟他口頭承諾他只是他們的發言人對外講的快over所以是他們確實發言人對外講什麼可不可以講明白一點也就是說他們對外說他們跟那些公司有做聯繫事實上公司並沒有正面回答是不是對沒錯所以他們有報他們有講假消息\n\n8\n00:02:43,684 --> 00:03:10,102\n因為是說外面的媒體看到他有對外類似這種言論所以我們後來請公司對外發言要審慎審慎所以確實雲包公司有對外發言不審慎然後造成股票的波動然後所以郭志威講的是正確的是這個意思嗎是的郭志威講的是正確那如果郭志威講的是正確雲包公司確實有問題然後影響股價的話那你們的你們現在怎麼處理營收減掉是不是\n\n9\n00:03:10,322 --> 00:03:35,873\n沒有那個就是證交所對公司作為警告甚至要發言他所以只有警告警告對發言他對他處罰有處罰但是因為當時你講說要移送檢調啊所以有刑責啊涉及證交法如果查屬是屬實的話我們就會移送的話你現在不是在查嗎我現在就在問你查是屬實他查的結果但是他對外的發言沒有就是查的不屬實不是屬實所以不用移送\n\n10\n00:03:36,753 --> 00:03:43,360\n但是呢他發言卻有不恰當所以警告他他發言精準是這個意思嗎是的就他還沒有到不實\n\n11\n00:03:44,281 --> 00:04:08,558\n但是發言確實有讓大家誤會所以就用警告的方式就是高高舉起輕輕放下再來我問一下主委因為最近金管會感覺上政策上面是推廣ETF說明年又要推什麼新的ETF然後有很多新型的商品出來主動式ETF但是因為今年\n\n12\n00:04:09,710 --> 00:04:25,981\n一開始的時候ETF非常的熱門尤其是那種月配息的那一種所以很多人去買但是有一些人到像年尾的時候發現被套牢了然後那現在ETF的規模是多大整個市場的規模是多大現在大概是國內應該是6兆左右6兆左右\n\n13\n00:04:26,741 --> 00:04:43,806\n好那之前的ETF有的已經出現被套牢狀況好像已經不是大家一開始講的那個樣子然後呢又一直要推新的ETF出來我想問一下金管會這邊有沒有什麼對於ETF的在行銷上面對投資人的保護的部分有什麼措施嗎其實啊剛剛講我們\n\n14\n00:04:45,959 --> 00:05:08,062\n推動商品多元化這是我們一個很重要當然是穩健剛剛比如說我們對ETF如果委員有注意前陣子我們對那個廣告網紅這些東西我們都有定下規矩而且我們也裁罰了還就像我們對這個ETF的這個誤導的部分我們在整個整個行銷管理上面是真的有在發布一些規定來管理因為\n\n15\n00:05:09,023 --> 00:05:29,993\n畢竟剛剛講說過去我們都是被動式的ETF那現在市場上呢我們希望它能夠增加一個主動式ETF當然我們在做交易宣導跟這個在銷售管控上我們一定會嚴格的把關一定會但是因為我聽不出來怎麼把關啊因為時間關係沒關係時間關係你再補一個書面報告給我好不好因為好不好然後最後一個問題就好\n\n16\n00:05:31,374 --> 00:05:55,909\n因為我知道金管會現在也很認真在打詐有一個措施就是請民間的銀行不要對那個社群平台下廣告那請問一下現在民營銀行的配合程度是怎麼樣那現在是因為他們銀行公會理事長他們自發性的我們其實上他們是自發性的去那很多的銀行大家都有配合就對了其實應該也蠻多金融機構配合但我們金融機構的家族範圍非常廣\n\n17\n00:05:57,210 --> 00:06:23,106\n各自有不同的做法這不是你們主推的啦是他們主動啦這個是因為我們不會去介入他們的廣告政策這不在我們的監理範圍是他們自覺說他們的他們的名字常會被炸彈用他就希望用這樣的方式自清的方式那是他們的自發性的行為他們自發性的行為所以金管會還是會拿很多其他的方法來主張那當然我們在政策上我是覺得說用這種方法當然可能一定有效果但那個效果不是\n\n18\n00:06:23,726 --> 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--> 00:28.529\n主委謝謝黃主委主委好你們今晚會的辦公地點應該在我們板橋吧是板橋高鐵站樓上我知道但是呢包括剛剛大家提關心的亞洲資產管理中心包括探權交易所全部都移到高雄去設立那你在板橋你應該知道我們板橋其實最近發展也不錯不管也都有相關的條件為什麼你什麼都想到高雄啊就不會想到你的所在地板橋\n\n00:29.629 --> 00:50.340\n沒問題昨天那個我想那個前天院長在參加的活動他講說他希望我們這個所謂的金融資產管理專業能夠遍地開花各個縣市如果說願意提出他們的特色那我們金管會都很樂意的去協助跟配合所以你現在設到高雄都是高雄提出來的需求\n\n00:51.300 --> 01:13.165\n那為什麼高雄永遠都知道你們要幹嘛沒有沒有他們是兩三年前我們他們就已經在規劃這件事情然後你們就好我是建議啦因為相信我不需要去跟您強調板橋的優勢啦因為你所在地就在那邊啦對啦那這個希望說你在設立相關的中心的時候未來可能有別的東西的時候可以考慮一下你們辦公的所在地\n\n01:16.146 --> 01:35.577\n第二個我想問一個問題是之前郭志輝、經濟部長郭志輝說雲豹能源炒股票故意放假消息出去然後股價就漲了非常多然後後來證交所有講說如果金茶有這個問題的話就有刑責要移送減掉那現在已經一個月了我不知道茶怎麼樣\n\n01:36.997 --> 01:52.053\n現在的話可不可以請鎮議員我們確實交易所按照程序在辦理我請我們的鎮議局局長跟您簡單回答跟委員報告這個事情其實在鎮交所已經進行查處了所以現在的狀況是怎樣\n\n01:54.589 --> 02:18.809\n查處的結果認為是說他的資訊沒有控管得很好誰的資訊沒有控管得很好銀豹公司對重大信息的控制沒有控制得很好對重大信息也就是說他公司對外發布的信息會讓人家聯想說你是不是有跟所以你的意思是說確實銀豹公司有跟別人講說那個回答要來這邊設廠然後需要多少電\n\n02:20.170 --> 02:42.944\n不是因為是他回答並沒有跟他口頭承諾他只是他們的發言人對外講的快over所以是他們確實發言人對外講什麼可不可以講明白一點也就是說他們對外說他們跟那些公司有做聯繫事實上公司並沒有正面回答是不是對沒錯所以他們有報他們有講假消息\n\n02:43.684 --> 03:10.102\n因為是說外面的媒體看到他有對外類似這種言論所以我們後來請公司對外發言要審慎審慎所以確實雲包公司有對外發言不審慎然後造成股票的波動然後所以郭志威講的是正確的是這個意思嗎是的郭志威講的是正確那如果郭志威講的是正確雲包公司確實有問題然後影響股價的話那你們的你們現在怎麼處理營收減掉是不是\n\n03:10.322 --> 03:35.873\n沒有那個就是證交所對公司作為警告甚至要發言他所以只有警告警告對發言他對他處罰有處罰但是因為當時你講說要移送檢調啊所以有刑責啊涉及證交法如果查屬是屬實的話我們就會移送的話你現在不是在查嗎我現在就在問你查是屬實他查的結果但是他對外的發言沒有就是查的不屬實不是屬實所以不用移送\n\n03:36.753 --> 03:43.360\n但是呢他發言卻有不恰當所以警告他他發言精準是這個意思嗎是的就他還沒有到不實\n\n03:44.281 --> 04:08.558\n但是發言確實有讓大家誤會所以就用警告的方式就是高高舉起輕輕放下再來我問一下主委因為最近金管會感覺上政策上面是推廣ETF說明年又要推什麼新的ETF然後有很多新型的商品出來主動式ETF但是因為今年\n\n04:09.710 --> 04:25.981\n一開始的時候ETF非常的熱門尤其是那種月配息的那一種所以很多人去買但是有一些人到像年尾的時候發現被套牢了然後那現在ETF的規模是多大整個市場的規模是多大現在大概是國內應該是6兆左右6兆左右\n\n04:26.741 --> 04:43.806\n好那之前的ETF有的已經出現被套牢狀況好像已經不是大家一開始講的那個樣子然後呢又一直要推新的ETF出來我想問一下金管會這邊有沒有什麼對於ETF的在行銷上面對投資人的保護的部分有什麼措施嗎其實啊剛剛講我們\n\n04:45.959 --> 05:08.062\n推動商品多元化這是我們一個很重要當然是穩健剛剛比如說我們對ETF如果委員有注意前陣子我們對那個廣告網紅這些東西我們都有定下規矩而且我們也裁罰了還就像我們對這個ETF的這個誤導的部分我們在整個整個行銷管理上面是真的有在發布一些規定來管理因為\n\n05:09.023 --> 05:29.993\n畢竟剛剛講說過去我們都是被動式的ETF那現在市場上呢我們希望它能夠增加一個主動式ETF當然我們在做交易宣導跟這個在銷售管控上我們一定會嚴格的把關一定會但是因為我聽不出來怎麼把關啊因為時間關係沒關係時間關係你再補一個書面報告給我好不好因為好不好然後最後一個問題就好\n\n05:31.374 --> 05:55.909\n因為我知道金管會現在也很認真在打詐有一個措施就是請民間的銀行不要對那個社群平台下廣告那請問一下現在民營銀行的配合程度是怎麼樣那現在是因為他們銀行公會理事長他們自發性的我們其實上他們是自發性的去那很多的銀行大家都有配合就對了其實應該也蠻多金融機構配合但我們金融機構的家族範圍非常廣\n\n05:57.210 --> 06:23.106\n各自有不同的做法這不是你們主推的啦是他們主動啦這個是因為我們不會去介入他們的廣告政策這不在我們的監理範圍是他們自覺說他們的他們的名字常會被炸彈用他就希望用這樣的方式自清的方式那是他們的自發性的行為他們自發性的行為所以金管會還是會拿很多其他的方法來主張那當然我們在政策上我是覺得說用這種方法當然可能一定有效果但那個效果不是\n\n06:23.726 --> 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宣導跟在銷售管控上，我們一定會嚴格的把控。"],["葉委員元之：一定會，但是我聽不出來怎麼把關，因為時間關係，你再補一個書面報告給我好不好？"],["彭主任委員金隆：可以，沒問題。"],["葉委員元之：最後一個問題，因為我知道金管會現在也很認真在打詐，有一個措施就是請民間的銀行不要對社群平台下廣告。請問現在民營銀行的配合程度是怎麼樣？"],["彭主任委員金隆：現在是因為銀行公會理事長他們自發性的，其實他們是自發性的去，那很多的銀行……"],["葉委員元之：大家都有配合就對了？"],["彭主任委員金隆：其實應該也蠻多金融機構配合，但我們金融機構的家數範圍非常廣，各自有不同的做法。"],["葉委員元之：這不是你們主推的，是他們主動。"],["彭主任委員金隆：因為我們不會去介入他們的廣告政策，這不在我們的監理範圍，是他們自覺他們的名字常會被詐團用，就希望用這樣自清的方式，那是他們的自發性的行為。"],["葉委員元之：他們自發性的行為。"],["彭主任委員金隆：是的。"],["葉委員元之：所以金管會還是會拿很多其他的方法來阻詐，對不對？"],["彭主任委員金隆：那當然，我們在政策上……"],["葉委員元之：我是覺得用這種方法當然可能有一定效果，但那個效果不是絕對跟全面。"],["彭主任委員金隆：我們是多元方法。"],["葉委員元之：因為詐騙集團下的廣告更多，所以可能要找很多更積極的方法出來。"],["彭主任委員金隆：那當然，我們持續的在想方設法解決這個問題。"],["葉委員元之：好，謝謝。"],["彭主任委員金隆：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝葉元之委員。楊瓊瓔委員提書面質詢。","鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員，鄭正鈐委員不在。","我們今天登記發言的委員都已經詢答完畢，本次會議作如下決議：說明及詢答完畢，委員質詢未及答復或請補充資訊，請金管會於一週內以書面答復；委員另要求期限者從其約定。委員楊瓊瓔所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報，並請金管會用書面答復。中華民國114年度中央政府總預算有關金管會、銀行局、證期局、保險局、檢查局收支部分及附屬單位預算，有關金管會主管營業部分、中央存款保險有限公司及非營業部分、特別收入基金─金融監督管理基金、信託基金─保險業務發展基金，均另擇期繼續審查。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":286,"meet_id":"委員會-11-2-20-11","speakers":["陳玉珍","林德福","吳秉叡","賴士葆","賴惠員","王鴻薇","李坤城","李彥秀","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","顏寬恒","黃珊珊","郭國文","洪孟楷","羅明才","葉元之","楊瓊瓔"],"page_start":209,"meetingDate":["2024-12-19"],"gazette_id":"1140901","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1140901_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會、銀行局、證券期貨局、\n保險局、檢查局收支部分（僅詢答）；二、審查中華民國 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