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00:01:24,509\n也沒有討論過的,你們有看過嗎?我本來沒看過,因為我們在算第一個版本的時候,他第二個版本就出來了。第二個版本算好,又第三個版本就出來了嘛。所以,這個叫做突襲性的立法啦。立法院多數版本完全不讓人家知道,表決前幾分鐘拿給你。然後我們多數,我們舉手就把你碾壓過去了嘛。\n\n5\n00:01:25,069 --> 00:01:35,858\n這是先談程序啦程序非常的不正義所以現在擠啊他知道通過之後社會大中要算帳啊\n\n6\n00:01:37,242 --> 00:01:56,570\n所以急了在這個地方才趕快這邊發言不然為什麼講跟今天的主題完全都沒有相關的事情呢?是第二個你剛剛講的很對啊財政收支劃分當然錢跟權要一起來分配嘛是啊新北市政府突然之間拿到300多億\n\n7\n00:01:59,382 --> 00:02:10,832\n過去從現在往前推4年新北市政府為例他的財政全部都是plus就是他有剩餘結果現在立法突然要給他300多億\n\n8\n00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:29,025\n臺北市的更多那你又沒有讓他要多做什麼事情突然天山掉下來幾百億市政府要怎麼花這條錢我們沒有人知道啊他也沒有法定義務的增加啊\n\n9\n00:02:30,618 --> 00:02:53,330\n所以這個是非常的不合理嘛所以我跟委員報告這一次的問題就第一個垂直分配完全沒有討論釋出太多會衝擊到中央的施政好我再因為今年的主題有關所以我速度稍微快一點你我都心知肚明第三他剛剛放影片說很多縣市長都在說那是2012年的時候對不對對那2012年請問馬英九從2008年到2016年當總統\n\n10\n00:02:58,673 --> 00:03:07,178\n國民黨如果這麼著急財政收支劃分法當時國民黨立法院的多數啊我第8屆立委的時候民進黨只有40席第7屆民進黨更只有27席\n\n11\n00:03:12,335 --> 00:03:34,998\n那是完全免押為什麼他們不通過顯然有非常大的困難嘛那時候我全程在場那時候全程在場那時候呢就是也就是大家都沒有共識嘛這件事情就是因為要凝聚各縣市的共識所以有非常大的困難馬英九當總統那八年\n\n12\n00:03:36,019 --> 00:03:59,040\n大家有一再講說這個財政宣傳法來討論他也沒有辦法他也通不過啊國民黨在說立法院委員的比例還更多數啊那他們執政的時候有困難到了現在民進黨執政民進黨也有困難需要比較長的時間來凝聚公司的時候他們就不行了他們就要碾壓了嘛事實就是這樣嘛\n\n13\n00:04:00,297 --> 00:04:00,918\n主席\n\n14\n00:04:24,151 --> 00:04:51,012\n馬上就要元旦了是元旦101大樓會放煙火是準備了怎麼樣其實我跟委員報告一下這個準備是經過一個非常長時間的整個計畫我上任之前8月底的時候整個煙火的預算已經結標了廠商已經拿到這個標案了我是9月3號的時候上任上任之後大概第二天就開始開這個煙火會議了\n\n15\n00:04:52,273 --> 00:05:17,334\n那當時設定的主題呢在我上任之前設定的主題是共創美好未來那那個時候我會覺得說這個主題可能稍微規矩了一點所以呢我們就把它改成了AmazingTaiwan我們是第二次是這個主題的版本那接下來呢就有不斷的煙火的討論的會議最後呢我們確定的是這一次的今年的煙火呢是5加1分鐘\n\n16\n00:05:18,195 --> 00:05:42,867\n往年通常都是五分鐘那今年呢我們有加碼了一分鐘那在發書的方面呢一定也會讓國人非常的驚豔另外就是我們也加了雷射有雷射秀還有呢之前我都還沒有曝光的一個部分就是光雕那在光雕的部分呢是很感謝由我們國泰世華這邊獨家贊助那在光雕的部分全部都是我們臺灣英雄\n\n17\n00:05:44,608 --> 00:05:58,183\n他們會用一個我要先保密不同的形式出場所以我想其實在這個代表我們臺灣我們最後是因為棒球得了冠軍我們就用TeamTaiwan一個冠軍獎盃然後Champion\n\n18\n00:05:59,605 --> 00:06:18,573\n那所有的音樂的剪輯呢我再接下來可能就乾脆把所有的音樂都一起公佈因為音樂呢它是非常振奮人心的全部都是用我們臺灣在地的流行音樂然後也是我們耳熟能詳的音樂一定有臺灣雄勇在這個部分\n\n19\n00:06:20,274 --> 00:06:37,712\n因為國人對這個101的煙火很期待啦所以你一定要很戒慎、小心、要謹慎、要把它放好因為我前面聽到有一些媒體的報導說或是網路啊就說你國慶日的時候的煙火放了之後他們不滿意啦他們不滿意啦\n\n20\n00:06:38,393 --> 00:06:40,695\n國慶營火是一直以來往年從來都沒有過的我上任之後我會覺得說其實在國慶的時候我們也應該\n\n21\n00:07:24,787 --> 00:07:52,810\n我希望我會一直去拜拜希望老天爺給我一個非常好的天氣謝謝董事長你上任了之後真的做了很多事情你很會募款我有一些好朋友跟你也有朋友關係是他都問我想說很怕你因為你都一直跟人家要錢對我很怕我的朋友都不接我電話了你譬如說舉一個例子所以是為了要這個為偏鄉的棒球基層棒球選手做一些設備的補助所以你有去一個點燈活動是\n\n22\n00:07:54,531 --> 00:08:23,130\n找了幾家廠商,一家廠商60萬是,我們總共找了10家廠商一家60萬就募了600萬再加上我們101的200萬所以總共800萬全數捐出捐出要做這個基層棒球的捐助其中被拿來當話題的就是因為你跟你的先生感情很好然後因為你的先生跟你有一個永傑同心這個在媒體上被\n\n23\n00:08:24,551 --> 00:08:29,433\n我昨天已經把永潔童心拿到阿妹的演唱會上然後阿妹也很開心的跟我一起跟永潔童心合照大概是走這個方向\n\n24\n00:08:49,241 --> 00:09:17,398\n那個評論我是希望你說明在哪裡他們說你是公器私用獨立自己有沒有這回事可是我們是付了一樣的贊助的金額那另外我可以跟委員等一下我一定要跟委員報告就是我接下來還有下一步因為全民都很想要放閃所以接下來我在24號、25號我邀請了全民一起點燈放閃全民都可以放閃這是一個行銷的計畫\n\n25\n00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:37,370\n所以你那個放閃你先生也是你先生家庭的公司家裡的公司也是捐了60萬跟其他的廠商一樣就對了基本上有一點私企公用那你點的時間有沒有比別人長沒有全部都一樣這是私企公用私企公用要獨立自己才叫私企公用\n\n26\n00:09:38,050 --> 00:09:38,290\n最後一個問題\n\n27\n00:09:58,672 --> 00:10:25,115\n因為你們都一直滿足啦有人一直在跟我們反映說他想要進去都進不去你們這個方面的標準是一定要到國際的高代價品牌才能夠進入嗎?是,我們一定要是非常就是具有這種國際競爭力的品牌然後也希望是對我們臺灣的未來譬如說科技產業、醫療生技產業、AI產業希望是以這樣子的產業為主目標還有金融產業\n\n28\n00:10:25,896 --> 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Taiwan我們是第二次是這個主題的版本那接下來呢就有不斷的煙火的討論的會議最後呢我們確定的是這一次的今年的煙火呢是5加1分鐘\n318195\t342867\t往年通常都是五分鐘那今年呢我們有加碼了一分鐘那在發書的方面呢一定也會讓國人非常的驚豔另外就是我們也加了雷射有雷射秀還有呢之前我都還沒有曝光的一個部分就是光雕那在光雕的部分呢是很感謝由我們國泰世華這邊獨家贊助那在光雕的部分全部都是我們臺灣英雄\n344608\t358183\t他們會用一個我要先保密不同的形式出場所以我想其實在這個代表我們臺灣我們最後是因為棒球得了冠軍我們就用Team Taiwan一個冠軍獎盃然後Champion\n359605\t378573\t那所有的音樂的剪輯呢我再接下來可能就乾脆把所有的音樂都一起公佈因為音樂呢它是非常振奮人心的全部都是用我們臺灣在地的流行音樂然後也是我們耳熟能詳的音樂一定有臺灣雄勇在這個部分\n380274\t397712\t因為國人對這個101的煙火很期待啦所以你一定要很戒慎、小心、要謹慎、要把它放好因為我前面聽到有一些媒體的報導說或是網路啊就說你國慶日的時候的煙火放了之後他們不滿意啦他們不滿意啦\n398393\t400695\t國慶營火是一直以來往年從來都沒有過的我上任之後我會覺得說其實在國慶的時候我們也應該\n414787\t444787\t吳秉叡\n444787\t472810\t我希望我會一直去拜拜希望老天爺給我一個非常好的天氣謝謝董事長你上任了之後真的做了很多事情你很會募款我有一些好朋友跟你也有朋友關係是他都問我想說很怕你因為你都一直跟人家要錢對我很怕我的朋友都不接我電話了你譬如說舉一個例子所以是為了要這個為偏鄉的棒球基層棒球選手做一些設備的補助所以你有去一個點燈活動是\n474531\t503130\t找了幾家廠商,一家廠商60萬是,我們總共找了10家廠商一家60萬就募了600萬再加上我們101的200萬所以總共800萬全數捐出捐出要做這個基層棒球的捐助其中被拿來當話題的就是因為你跟你的先生感情很好然後因為你的先生跟你有一個永傑同心這個在媒體上被\n504551\t509433\t我昨天已經把永潔童心拿到阿妹的演唱會上然後阿妹也很開心的跟我一起跟永潔童心合照大概是走這個方向\n529241\t557398\t那個評論我是希望你說明在哪裡他們說你是公器私用獨立自己有沒有這回事可是我們是付了一樣的贊助的金額那另外我可以跟委員等一下我一定要跟委員報告就是我接下來還有下一步因為全民都很想要放閃所以接下來我在24號、25號我邀請了全民一起點燈放閃全民都可以放閃這是一個行銷的計畫\n558519\t577370\t所以你那個放閃你先生也是你先生家庭的公司家裡的公司也是捐了60萬跟其他的廠商一樣就對了基本上有一點私企公用那你點的時間有沒有比別人長沒有 全部都一樣這是私企公用私企公用要獨立自己才叫私企公用\n578050\t578290\t最後一個問題\n598672\t625115\t因為你們都一直滿足啦有人一直在跟我們反映說他想要進去都進不去你們這個方面的標準是一定要到國際的高代價品牌才能夠進入嗎?是,我們一定要是非常就是具有這種國際競爭力的品牌然後也希望是對我們臺灣的未來譬如說科技產業、醫療生技產業、AI產業希望是以這樣子的產業為主目標還有金融產業\n625896\t654511\t就是說你們因為滿租所以是賣租方市場你要挑客人就對了啦可以是這麼說對然後我們也希望能夠把租金條件談到台北101比較好的畢竟101是我們臺灣一個非常象徵性的大樓如果能夠做到高標準高指標然後經營得很好對臺灣是件非常好的事情謝謝委員請董事長跟總經理都要加油好不好謝謝好 謝謝好 謝謝接著請耐斯堡委員花妍\n","txt":"委員好剛剛我在台下看感觸很深啊如果在修法在財政委員會可以這樣對話多好哪一位委員有意見可以請教你們財政部請教其他縣市政府的財主單位那我們至少還有一個討論的過程啊是啊那財政委員會在審這個財政收支方法之後有給我們發言的機會嗎\n有讓你們有發言的機會嗎?沒有三分鐘在這個地方條文唸唸連條子都沒唸通過了送到議會去當時的版本是六千億結果在議會到讀之前也沒有經過政黨協商\n到了要審的時候要表決的時候突然拿一個草案出來那個草案是我從頭到尾都沒有看過的\n也沒有討論過的,你們有看過嗎?我本來沒看過,因為我們在算第一個版本的時候,他第二個版本就出來了。第二個版本算好,又第三個版本就出來了嘛。所以,這個叫做突襲性的立法啦。立法院多數版本完全不讓人家知道,表決前幾分鐘拿給你。然後我們多數,我們舉手就把你碾壓過去了嘛。\n這是先談程序啦程序非常的不正義所以現在擠啊他知道通過之後社會大中要算帳啊\n所以急了在這個地方才趕快這邊發言不然為什麼講跟今天的主題完全都沒有相關的事情呢?是第二個你剛剛講的很對啊財政收支劃分當然錢跟權要一起來分配嘛是啊新北市政府突然之間拿到300多億\n過去從現在往前推4年新北市政府為例他的財政全部都是plus就是他有剩餘結果現在立法突然要給他300多億\n臺北市的更多那你又沒有讓他要多做什麼事情突然天山掉下來幾百億市政府要怎麼花這條錢我們沒有人知道啊他也沒有法定義務的增加啊\n所以這個是非常的不合理嘛所以我跟委員報告這一次的問題就第一個垂直分配完全沒有討論釋出太多會衝擊到中央的施政好我再因為今年的主題有關所以我速度稍微快一點你我都心知肚明第三他剛剛放影片說很多縣市長都在說那是2012年的時候對不對對那2012年請問馬英九從2008年到2016年當總統\n國民黨如果這麼著急財政收支劃分法當時國民黨立法院的多數啊我第8屆立委的時候民進黨只有40席第7屆民進黨更只有27席\n那是完全免押為什麼他們不通過顯然有非常大的困難嘛那時候我全程在場那時候全程在場那時候呢就是也就是大家都沒有共識嘛這件事情就是因為要凝聚各縣市的共識所以有非常大的困難馬英九當總統那八年\n大家有一再講說這個財政宣傳法來討論他也沒有辦法他也通不過啊國民黨在說立法院委員的比例還更多數啊那他們執政的時候有困難到了現在民進黨執政民進黨也有困難需要比較長的時間來凝聚公司的時候他們就不行了他們就要碾壓了嘛事實就是這樣嘛\n主席\n馬上就要元旦了是元旦101大樓會放煙火是準備了怎麼樣其實我跟委員報告一下這個準備是經過一個非常長時間的整個計畫我上任之前8月底的時候整個煙火的預算已經結標了廠商已經拿到這個標案了我是9月3號的時候上任上任之後大概第二天就開始開這個煙火會議了\n那當時設定的主題呢在我上任之前設定的主題是共創美好未來那那個時候我會覺得說這個主題可能稍微規矩了一點所以呢我們就把它改成了Amazing Taiwan我們是第二次是這個主題的版本那接下來呢就有不斷的煙火的討論的會議最後呢我們確定的是這一次的今年的煙火呢是5加1分鐘\n往年通常都是五分鐘那今年呢我們有加碼了一分鐘那在發書的方面呢一定也會讓國人非常的驚豔另外就是我們也加了雷射有雷射秀還有呢之前我都還沒有曝光的一個部分就是光雕那在光雕的部分呢是很感謝由我們國泰世華這邊獨家贊助那在光雕的部分全部都是我們臺灣英雄\n他們會用一個我要先保密不同的形式出場所以我想其實在這個代表我們臺灣我們最後是因為棒球得了冠軍我們就用Team Taiwan一個冠軍獎盃然後Champion\n那所有的音樂的剪輯呢我再接下來可能就乾脆把所有的音樂都一起公佈因為音樂呢它是非常振奮人心的全部都是用我們臺灣在地的流行音樂然後也是我們耳熟能詳的音樂一定有臺灣雄勇在這個部分\n因為國人對這個101的煙火很期待啦所以你一定要很戒慎、小心、要謹慎、要把它放好因為我前面聽到有一些媒體的報導說或是網路啊就說你國慶日的時候的煙火放了之後他們不滿意啦他們不滿意啦\n國慶營火是一直以來往年從來都沒有過的我上任之後我會覺得說其實在國慶的時候我們也應該\n吳秉叡\n我希望我會一直去拜拜希望老天爺給我一個非常好的天氣謝謝董事長你上任了之後真的做了很多事情你很會募款我有一些好朋友跟你也有朋友關係是他都問我想說很怕你因為你都一直跟人家要錢對我很怕我的朋友都不接我電話了你譬如說舉一個例子所以是為了要這個為偏鄉的棒球基層棒球選手做一些設備的補助所以你有去一個點燈活動是\n找了幾家廠商,一家廠商60萬是,我們總共找了10家廠商一家60萬就募了600萬再加上我們101的200萬所以總共800萬全數捐出捐出要做這個基層棒球的捐助其中被拿來當話題的就是因為你跟你的先生感情很好然後因為你的先生跟你有一個永傑同心這個在媒體上被\n我昨天已經把永潔童心拿到阿妹的演唱會上然後阿妹也很開心的跟我一起跟永潔童心合照大概是走這個方向\n那個評論我是希望你說明在哪裡他們說你是公器私用獨立自己有沒有這回事可是我們是付了一樣的贊助的金額那另外我可以跟委員等一下我一定要跟委員報告就是我接下來還有下一步因為全民都很想要放閃所以接下來我在24號、25號我邀請了全民一起點燈放閃全民都可以放閃這是一個行銷的計畫\n所以你那個放閃你先生也是你先生家庭的公司家裡的公司也是捐了60萬跟其他的廠商一樣就對了基本上有一點私企公用那你點的時間有沒有比別人長沒有 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