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00:00:54,476\n作為執政黨我們執政黨團我們也多次的對外預告在野黨在做的是擴權上個會期推了國會擴權法案第二步是搶錢不斷的提出非常多的錢坑法案之外又通過了才化法挖空了中央的財源沒收民權對準的是選罷法摧毀憲法就是我們現在在善後的憲法訴訟法的惡修以及人事同意權大法官被癱瘓了\n\n3\n00:00:55,936 --> 00:01:14,683\n所以這些都是民主政變的現在進行式下一頁我以法案回應到法案違憲的法案有這麼多民進黨團已經針對三個二修的法案憲速法以及選罷法我們提起進行事先的準備\n\n4\n00:01:15,743 --> 00:01:32,262\n我要請您看的是違憲親中亂政乾坑法案當中跟總統府權限大有相關的我要請總統府預先去準備親中法案當中的國家安全戰略法草案\n\n5\n00:01:33,463 --> 00:01:48,892\n這個是國民黨團透過國家安全戰略法的立法要把總統的國安全受制於立法院請問總統府有沒有針對這樣一個又是立法院的擴權而且把手\n\n6\n00:01:49,973 --> 00:02:03,498\n之前是升到司法院升到監察院現在是堂而皇之把立法院的政黨的黑手升到總統的國家安全的統一的權限總統府有沒有預先因應\n\n7\n00:02:05,186 --> 00:02:22,776\n好謝謝委員的指導我想委員辛苦了這段期間不管是任何法案的推動或預算審查委員所率領的黨團大家都很辛苦在這邊特別代表自謝那同時在剛剛所提到的國家安全戰略法草案\n\n8\n00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:39,718\n目前我們國安會國安局大概也密切的關注那也針對這些草案的內容來去做分析我們目前大概智庫上也去做討論了包括反正滲透法的修正案等等那同時\n\n9\n00:02:41,179 --> 00:03:04,729\n這個也會燉請行政院未來在相關的一些國家安全戰略的一些方式能夠提新的一個法案來未來通過大院的協助能夠通過之後未來對於我們台灣怎麼確保在國家安全戰略不單只是這個只是這個軍事而已還有很多國防\n\n10\n00:03:05,769 --> 00:03:33,192\n國防以外還有很多的經濟戰略上包括科技產業的怎麼樣來做一個管制我想這些我們都有密切的來注意謝謝秘書長的回答我要再次提醒就國家安全戰略法他是一個全新的立法他要求行政院未來每年向立法院進行總預算的報告時候針對國家安全相關的預算要進行完整的報告揭露也要求行政院要\n\n11\n00:03:34,073 --> 00:03:49,608\n提出國家安全戰略的總計劃而且要送立法院這是一個非常危及總統職權而且他是一個全新的立法我請你們全面要做好因應未來民進黨團當然在立法院會全面捍衛國家安全好謝謝\n\n12\n00:03:54,272 --> 00:04:08,934\n下一頁三大惡法通過之後我想今天非常多的委員都垂詢民進黨團針對選罷法跟限訴法已經進行釋憲的準備才化法的部分下一頁下一頁下一頁\n\n13\n00:04:10,222 --> 00:04:30,459\n我一直說這個法可以改名了只管收入不管支出錢下放權沒有一併的來移轉所以他就改名叫做財政收入劃分法了您來自於屏東縣我們的總統賴清德來自於台南下一頁\n\n14\n00:04:31,620 --> 00:05:00,305\n這麼多的縣市首長這樣一個二修之後變成國民黨執政的縣市吃香喝辣民進黨執政的縣市們大家嗷嗷待哺喝西北風我看到黃偉哲看到陳其邁市長包括周春米縣長都針對修法的不公不義提出了批判這個部分就交於秘書長您來自南台灣國境之南怎麼樣來提出你們的看法解方\n\n15\n00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:26,892\n謝謝委員的關心那我想這一點這個二修的裁判法根本沒有賦予在裁判法修正只是要錢那沒有科目空有收這個錢但沒有科目這不符合預算的一個相關的指引另外第二個分配的不均導致城鄉差距越大以屏東縣我的家鄉為言是全國分配最少\n\n16\n00:05:27,392 --> 00:05:42,888\n而且人之初以一個平均人的得到是全國倒數第二極其不公平對於過去縱北青藍包括整個城鄉軍人對屏東縣民而言更是不公所以我們對於這一部財化法\n\n17\n00:05:43,829 --> 00:05:48,716\n目前只是搶錢但沒有把一些應盡的義務與責任只是錢錢但沒有把這些地方支出怎麼樣尊爵開支怎麼樣應盡的義務與責任等等這些都完全沒有任何的說法\n\n18\n00:05:59,912 --> 00:05:59,932\n好!\n\n19\n00:06:15,730 --> 00:06:23,956\n總統府也會尊重行政院對裁划法提出復議案的準備。也謝謝立法院黨團對於裁划法、限訴法、議後選罷法三大法的立法過程大家辛苦。同時也尊重立法院黨團的釋憲暫時處分與否包括行政院等我們基本上都尊重也謝謝。\n\n20\n00:06:39,949 --> 00:07:01,593\n好那我下一個主題喔就是三大委員會的成立那這是領導台灣的具體行動下一頁但當我們看到國際社會都肯定總統府成立尤其是以全社會的防衛任性我們看到美方有特別的大大的給予肯定這不只是守護台灣更是捍衛台灣\n\n21\n00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:19,826\n在這個peacemaker的角度、角色在印太地區扮演更積極的國際參與。國際肯定在野黨當然就只能為攻擊而攻擊。他們所說的跌床架屋侵害行政院的權責說的黑機關完全都不成立。\n\n22\n00:07:25,470 --> 00:07:53,209\n因為我們有清楚的法源依據中央行政機關基準法28條機關組成任務編組這就是具體的法律授權更何況馬英九擔任總統的時候他甚至要修中華民國總統府的組織法更要去做編預算增援額的新任組織的是馬英九的任內要做的來這個部分你是不是說明一下\n\n23\n00:07:53,669 --> 00:08:11,415\n是,我想第一個從法院依據這個委員會是任務邊組法院依據除了按照中央行政機關組織基本法以外那也不用設置什麼要點在阿扁總統、陳前總統也設置了科技諮詢委員會甚至論壇馬前總統更是設計設立了四個這個委員會及論壇那蔡前總統一樣賴總不能輪到賴總統做\n\n24\n00:08:21,718 --> 00:08:29,260\n又禁止他設立這個任務編組第一個不會增加人力也不會增加很多的預算我想每一個人總統有他的新的思維希望能夠未來引領國政的發展的綱領那我想這些也經過充分三大委員會的討論目前已經開了七大場還有二十幾場的分組討論等等那未來在明年度又有這個十二大場\n\n25\n00:08:47,944 --> 00:09:06,119\n甚至要舉行兵推演練那針對剛剛委員所提示的全民防衛任性的部分除了美國肯定歐盟肯定以外北約國家上個禮拜也特別對台灣這樣感到興趣他們也同時北約國家也希望能提供\n\n26\n00:09:06,599 --> 00:09:10,523\n他們的經驗分享他們也提高全社會韌性的一個韌性的一個提升分享這樣的經驗我想這個是未來不管台灣面臨的這種多地震多颱風或是疫情極端氣候的變遷從救災救難從平時到暫時但很遺憾部分媒體把它扭曲部分人把它扭曲了可是名利\n\n27\n00:09:31,981 --> 00:09:56,696\n他不是民兵是民力我相信我們跟很多宗教團體如慈濟佛光山基督教長老教會一貫道等這些都是可是在救災救難的時候的民力他們不是民兵所以很多人刻意把他扭曲甚至是批評黑箱機關那我認為新的總統有他新的作為我相信我們都應以尊重但我們會尊絕開支謝謝\n\n28\n00:09:58,517 --> 00:10:23,536\n謝謝秘書長的統合說明他不是黑機關因為有法源對不對馬英九時期也做我們看下一頁所以說從李登輝陳水扁馬英九到蔡英文四任總統均有任務編組的設立以蔡前總統年改新南向思改還有援助民族的轉型爭議委員會這些都有\n\n29\n00:10:24,236 --> 00:10:24,396\n關於總統府總預算凍結項目2案\n\n30\n00:10:54,597 --> 00:11:04,655\n4個任務編組他一個有設置要點陳水扁總統有5個有設置要點那小英總統有5個任務編組有設置要點下一頁\n\n31\n00:11:05,936 --> 00:11:09,278\n我認為我個人認為有設置要點是讓我們可以更健全更有利其實站在國會監督的角度我可以針對你們的人員產生性別主流化有沒有貫徹他扮演的任務是不是能夠更扣合著國家發展的需要我拋出這樣子的一個建議我認為如果有設置要點\n\n32\n00:11:28,948 --> 00:11:30,769\n也許也是一個正面的事務我覺得我拋給你們,我們一起來研議,好嗎?好,謝謝,謝謝委員的提出。好,再用時間。好,謝謝。好,謝謝潘秉桑,謝謝吳委員。接下來\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6109\t9110\t臺灣正面臨民主的政變,憲政的危機到底有解無解,臺灣社會都在問。\n27048\t54476\t作為執政黨我們執政黨團我們也多次的對外預告在野黨在做的是擴權上個會期推了國會擴權法案第二步是搶錢不斷的提出非常多的錢坑法案之外又通過了才化法挖空了中央的財源沒收民權對準的是選罷法摧毀憲法就是我們現在在善後的憲法訴訟法的惡修以及人事同意權大法官被癱瘓了\n55936\t74683\t所以這些都是民主政變的現在進行式下一頁我以法案回應到法案違憲的法案有這麼多民進黨團已經針對三個二修的法案憲速法以及選罷法我們提起進行事先的準備\n75743\t92262\t我要請您看的是違憲親中亂政乾坑法案當中跟總統府權限大有相關的我要請總統府預先去準備親中法案當中的國家安全戰略法草案\n93463\t108892\t這個是國民黨團透過國家安全戰略法的立法要把總統的國安全受制於立法院請問總統府有沒有針對這樣一個又是立法院的擴權而且把手\n109973\t123498\t之前是升到司法院升到監察院現在是堂而皇之把立法院的政黨的黑手升到總統的國家安全的統一的權限總統府有沒有預先因應\n125186\t142776\t好謝謝委員的指導我想委員辛苦了這段期間不管是任何法案的推動或預算審查委員所率領的黨團大家都很辛苦在這邊特別代表自謝那同時在剛剛所提到的國家安全戰略法草案\n143476\t159718\t目前我們國安會國安局大概也密切的關注那也針對這些草案的內容來去做分析我們目前大概智庫上也去做討論了包括反正滲透法的修正案等等那同時\n161179\t184729\t這個也會燉請行政院未來在相關的一些國家安全戰略的一些方式能夠提新的一個法案來未來通過大院的協助能夠通過之後未來對於我們台灣怎麼確保在國家安全戰略不單只是這個只是這個軍事而已還有很多國防\n185769\t213192\t國防以外還有很多的經濟戰略上包括科技產業的怎麼樣來做一個管制我想這些我們都有密切的來注意謝謝秘書長的回答我要再次提醒就國家安全戰略法他是一個全新的立法他要求行政院未來每年向立法院進行總預算的報告時候針對國家安全相關的預算要進行完整的報告揭露也要求行政院要\n214073\t229608\t提出國家安全戰略的總計劃而且要送立法院這是一個非常危及總統職權而且他是一個全新的立法我請你們全面要做好因應未來民進黨團當然在立法院會全面捍衛國家安全好謝謝\n234272\t248934\t下一頁三大惡法通過之後我想今天非常多的委員都垂詢民進黨團針對選罷法跟限訴法已經進行釋憲的準備才化法的部分下一頁下一頁下一頁\n250222\t270459\t我一直說這個法可以改名了只管收入不管支出錢下放權沒有一併的來移轉所以他就改名叫做財政收入劃分法了您來自於屏東縣我們的總統賴清德來自於台南下一頁\n271620\t300305\t這麼多的縣市首長這樣一個二修之後變成國民黨執政的縣市吃香喝辣民進黨執政的縣市們大家嗷嗷待哺喝西北風我看到黃偉哲看到陳其邁市長包括周春米縣長都針對修法的不公不義提出了批判這個部分就交於秘書長您來自南台灣國境之南怎麼樣來提出你們的看法解方\n301319\t326892\t謝謝委員的關心那我想這一點這個二修的裁判法根本沒有賦予在裁判法修正只是要錢那沒有科目空有收這個錢但沒有科目這不符合預算的一個相關的指引另外第二個分配的不均導致城鄉差距越大以屏東縣我的家鄉為言是全國分配最少\n327392\t342888\t而且人之初以一個平均人的得到是全國倒數第二極其不公平對於過去縱北青藍包括整個城鄉軍人對屏東縣民而言更是不公所以我們對於這一部財化法\n343829\t348716\t目前只是搶錢但沒有把一些應盡的義務與責任只是錢錢但沒有把這些地方支出怎麼樣尊爵開支怎麼樣應盡的義務與責任等等這些都完全沒有任何的說法\n359912\t359932\t好!\n375730\t383956\t總統府也會尊重行政院對裁划法提出復議案的準備。也謝謝立法院黨團對於裁划法、限訴法、議後選罷法三大法的立法過程大家辛苦。同時也尊重立法院黨團的釋憲暫時處分與否包括行政院等我們基本上都尊重也謝謝。\n399949\t421593\t好那我下一個主題喔就是三大委員會的成立那這是領導台灣的具體行動下一頁但當我們看到國際社會都肯定總統府成立尤其是以全社會的防衛任性我們看到美方有特別的大大的給予肯定這不只是守護台灣更是捍衛台灣\n424554\t439826\t在這個peace maker的角度、角色在印太地區扮演更積極的國際參與。國際肯定在野黨當然就只能為攻擊而攻擊。他們所說的跌床架屋侵害行政院的權責說的黑機關完全都不成立。\n445470\t473209\t因為我們有清楚的法源依據中央行政機關基準法28條機關組成任務編組這就是具體的法律授權更何況馬英九擔任總統的時候他甚至要修中華民國總統府的組織法更要去做編預算增援額的新任組織的是馬英九的任內要做的來這個部分你是不是說明一下\n473669\t491415\t是,我想第一個從法院依據這個委員會是任務邊組法院依據除了按照中央行政機關組織基本法以外那也不用設置什麼要點在阿扁總統、陳前總統也設置了科技諮詢委員會甚至論壇馬前總統更是設計設立了四個這個委員會及論壇那蔡前總統一樣賴總不能輪到賴總統做\n501718\t509260\t又禁止他設立這個任務編組第一個不會增加人力也不會增加很多的預算我想每一個人總統有他的新的思維希望能夠未來引領國政的發展的綱領那我想這些也經過充分三大委員會的討論目前已經開了七大場還有二十幾場的分組討論等等那未來在明年度又有這個十二大場\n527944\t546119\t甚至要舉行兵推演練那針對剛剛委員所提示的全民防衛任性的部分除了美國肯定歐盟肯定以外北約國家上個禮拜也特別對台灣這樣感到興趣他們也同時北約國家也希望能提供\n546599\t550523\t他們的經驗分享他們也提高全社會韌性的一個韌性的一個提升分享這樣的經驗我想這個是未來不管台灣面臨的這種多地震多颱風或是疫情極端氣候的變遷從救災救難從平時到暫時但很遺憾部分媒體把它扭曲部分人把它扭曲了可是名利\n571981\t596696\t他不是民兵是民力我相信我們跟很多宗教團體如慈濟佛光山基督教長老教會一貫道等這些都是可是在救災救難的時候的民力他們不是民兵所以很多人刻意把他扭曲甚至是批評黑箱機關那我認為新的總統有他新的作為我相信我們都應以尊重但我們會尊絕開支謝謝\n598517\t623536\t謝謝秘書長的統合說明他不是黑機關因為有法源對不對馬英九時期也做我們看下一頁所以說從李登輝陳水扁馬英九到蔡英文四任總統均有任務編組的設立以蔡前總統年改新南向思改還有援助民族的轉型爭議委員會這些都有\n624236\t624396\t關於總統府總預算凍結項目2案\n654597\t664655\t4個任務編組他一個有設置要點陳水扁總統有5個有設置要點那小英總統有5個任務編組有設置要點下一頁\n665936\t669278\t我認為我個人認為有設置要點是讓我們可以更健全更有利其實站在國會監督的角度我可以針對你們的人員產生性別主流化有沒有貫徹他扮演的任務是不是能夠更扣合著國家發展的需要我拋出這樣子的一個建議我認為如果有設置要點\n688948\t690769\t也許也是一個正面的事務我覺得我拋給你們,我們一起來研議,好嗎?好,謝謝,謝謝委員的提出。好,再用時間。好,謝謝。好,謝謝潘秉桑,謝謝吳委員。接下來\n","txt":"臺灣正面臨民主的政變,憲政的危機到底有解無解,臺灣社會都在問。\n作為執政黨我們執政黨團我們也多次的對外預告在野黨在做的是擴權上個會期推了國會擴權法案第二步是搶錢不斷的提出非常多的錢坑法案之外又通過了才化法挖空了中央的財源沒收民權對準的是選罷法摧毀憲法就是我們現在在善後的憲法訴訟法的惡修以及人事同意權大法官被癱瘓了\n所以這些都是民主政變的現在進行式下一頁我以法案回應到法案違憲的法案有這麼多民進黨團已經針對三個二修的法案憲速法以及選罷法我們提起進行事先的準備\n我要請您看的是違憲親中亂政乾坑法案當中跟總統府權限大有相關的我要請總統府預先去準備親中法案當中的國家安全戰略法草案\n這個是國民黨團透過國家安全戰略法的立法要把總統的國安全受制於立法院請問總統府有沒有針對這樣一個又是立法院的擴權而且把手\n之前是升到司法院升到監察院現在是堂而皇之把立法院的政黨的黑手升到總統的國家安全的統一的權限總統府有沒有預先因應\n好謝謝委員的指導我想委員辛苦了這段期間不管是任何法案的推動或預算審查委員所率領的黨團大家都很辛苦在這邊特別代表自謝那同時在剛剛所提到的國家安全戰略法草案\n目前我們國安會國安局大概也密切的關注那也針對這些草案的內容來去做分析我們目前大概智庫上也去做討論了包括反正滲透法的修正案等等那同時\n這個也會燉請行政院未來在相關的一些國家安全戰略的一些方式能夠提新的一個法案來未來通過大院的協助能夠通過之後未來對於我們台灣怎麼確保在國家安全戰略不單只是這個只是這個軍事而已還有很多國防\n國防以外還有很多的經濟戰略上包括科技產業的怎麼樣來做一個管制我想這些我們都有密切的來注意謝謝秘書長的回答我要再次提醒就國家安全戰略法他是一個全新的立法他要求行政院未來每年向立法院進行總預算的報告時候針對國家安全相關的預算要進行完整的報告揭露也要求行政院要\n提出國家安全戰略的總計劃而且要送立法院這是一個非常危及總統職權而且他是一個全新的立法我請你們全面要做好因應未來民進黨團當然在立法院會全面捍衛國家安全好謝謝\n下一頁三大惡法通過之後我想今天非常多的委員都垂詢民進黨團針對選罷法跟限訴法已經進行釋憲的準備才化法的部分下一頁下一頁下一頁\n我一直說這個法可以改名了只管收入不管支出錢下放權沒有一併的來移轉所以他就改名叫做財政收入劃分法了您來自於屏東縣我們的總統賴清德來自於台南下一頁\n這麼多的縣市首長這樣一個二修之後變成國民黨執政的縣市吃香喝辣民進黨執政的縣市們大家嗷嗷待哺喝西北風我看到黃偉哲看到陳其邁市長包括周春米縣長都針對修法的不公不義提出了批判這個部分就交於秘書長您來自南台灣國境之南怎麼樣來提出你們的看法解方\n謝謝委員的關心那我想這一點這個二修的裁判法根本沒有賦予在裁判法修正只是要錢那沒有科目空有收這個錢但沒有科目這不符合預算的一個相關的指引另外第二個分配的不均導致城鄉差距越大以屏東縣我的家鄉為言是全國分配最少\n而且人之初以一個平均人的得到是全國倒數第二極其不公平對於過去縱北青藍包括整個城鄉軍人對屏東縣民而言更是不公所以我們對於這一部財化法\n目前只是搶錢但沒有把一些應盡的義務與責任只是錢錢但沒有把這些地方支出怎麼樣尊爵開支怎麼樣應盡的義務與責任等等這些都完全沒有任何的說法\n好!\n總統府也會尊重行政院對裁划法提出復議案的準備。也謝謝立法院黨團對於裁划法、限訴法、議後選罷法三大法的立法過程大家辛苦。同時也尊重立法院黨團的釋憲暫時處分與否包括行政院等我們基本上都尊重也謝謝。\n好那我下一個主題喔就是三大委員會的成立那這是領導台灣的具體行動下一頁但當我們看到國際社會都肯定總統府成立尤其是以全社會的防衛任性我們看到美方有特別的大大的給予肯定這不只是守護台灣更是捍衛台灣\n在這個peace maker的角度、角色在印太地區扮演更積極的國際參與。國際肯定在野黨當然就只能為攻擊而攻擊。他們所說的跌床架屋侵害行政院的權責說的黑機關完全都不成立。\n因為我們有清楚的法源依據中央行政機關基準法28條機關組成任務編組這就是具體的法律授權更何況馬英九擔任總統的時候他甚至要修中華民國總統府的組織法更要去做編預算增援額的新任組織的是馬英九的任內要做的來這個部分你是不是說明一下\n是,我想第一個從法院依據這個委員會是任務邊組法院依據除了按照中央行政機關組織基本法以外那也不用設置什麼要點在阿扁總統、陳前總統也設置了科技諮詢委員會甚至論壇馬前總統更是設計設立了四個這個委員會及論壇那蔡前總統一樣賴總不能輪到賴總統做\n又禁止他設立這個任務編組第一個不會增加人力也不會增加很多的預算我想每一個人總統有他的新的思維希望能夠未來引領國政的發展的綱領那我想這些也經過充分三大委員會的討論目前已經開了七大場還有二十幾場的分組討論等等那未來在明年度又有這個十二大場\n甚至要舉行兵推演練那針對剛剛委員所提示的全民防衛任性的部分除了美國肯定歐盟肯定以外北約國家上個禮拜也特別對台灣這樣感到興趣他們也同時北約國家也希望能提供\n他們的經驗分享他們也提高全社會韌性的一個韌性的一個提升分享這樣的經驗我想這個是未來不管台灣面臨的這種多地震多颱風或是疫情極端氣候的變遷從救災救難從平時到暫時但很遺憾部分媒體把它扭曲部分人把它扭曲了可是名利\n他不是民兵是民力我相信我們跟很多宗教團體如慈濟佛光山基督教長老教會一貫道等這些都是可是在救災救難的時候的民力他們不是民兵所以很多人刻意把他扭曲甚至是批評黑箱機關那我認為新的總統有他新的作為我相信我們都應以尊重但我們會尊絕開支謝謝\n謝謝秘書長的統合說明他不是黑機關因為有法源對不對馬英九時期也做我們看下一頁所以說從李登輝陳水扁馬英九到蔡英文四任總統均有任務編組的設立以蔡前總統年改新南向思改還有援助民族的轉型爭議委員會這些都有\n關於總統府總預算凍結項目2案\n4個任務編組他一個有設置要點陳水扁總統有5個有設置要點那小英總統有5個任務編組有設置要點下一頁\n我認為我個人認為有設置要點是讓我們可以更健全更有利其實站在國會監督的角度我可以針對你們的人員產生性別主流化有沒有貫徹他扮演的任務是不是能夠更扣合著國家發展的需要我拋出這樣子的一個建議我認為如果有設置要點\n也許也是一個正面的事務我覺得我拋給你們,我們一起來研議,好嗎?好,謝謝,謝謝委員的提出。好,再用時間。好,謝謝。好,謝謝潘秉桑,謝謝吳委員。接下來\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.109 --> 00:09.110\n臺灣正面臨民主的政變,憲政的危機到底有解無解,臺灣社會都在問。\n\n00:27.048 --> 00:54.476\n作為執政黨我們執政黨團我們也多次的對外預告在野黨在做的是擴權上個會期推了國會擴權法案第二步是搶錢不斷的提出非常多的錢坑法案之外又通過了才化法挖空了中央的財源沒收民權對準的是選罷法摧毀憲法就是我們現在在善後的憲法訴訟法的惡修以及人事同意權大法官被癱瘓了\n\n00:55.936 --> 01:14.683\n所以這些都是民主政變的現在進行式下一頁我以法案回應到法案違憲的法案有這麼多民進黨團已經針對三個二修的法案憲速法以及選罷法我們提起進行事先的準備\n\n01:15.743 --> 01:32.262\n我要請您看的是違憲親中亂政乾坑法案當中跟總統府權限大有相關的我要請總統府預先去準備親中法案當中的國家安全戰略法草案\n\n01:33.463 --> 01:48.892\n這個是國民黨團透過國家安全戰略法的立法要把總統的國安全受制於立法院請問總統府有沒有針對這樣一個又是立法院的擴權而且把手\n\n01:49.973 --> 02:03.498\n之前是升到司法院升到監察院現在是堂而皇之把立法院的政黨的黑手升到總統的國家安全的統一的權限總統府有沒有預先因應\n\n02:05.186 --> 02:22.776\n好謝謝委員的指導我想委員辛苦了這段期間不管是任何法案的推動或預算審查委員所率領的黨團大家都很辛苦在這邊特別代表自謝那同時在剛剛所提到的國家安全戰略法草案\n\n02:23.476 --> 02:39.718\n目前我們國安會國安局大概也密切的關注那也針對這些草案的內容來去做分析我們目前大概智庫上也去做討論了包括反正滲透法的修正案等等那同時\n\n02:41.179 --> 03:04.729\n這個也會燉請行政院未來在相關的一些國家安全戰略的一些方式能夠提新的一個法案來未來通過大院的協助能夠通過之後未來對於我們台灣怎麼確保在國家安全戰略不單只是這個只是這個軍事而已還有很多國防\n\n03:05.769 --> 03:33.192\n國防以外還有很多的經濟戰略上包括科技產業的怎麼樣來做一個管制我想這些我們都有密切的來注意謝謝秘書長的回答我要再次提醒就國家安全戰略法他是一個全新的立法他要求行政院未來每年向立法院進行總預算的報告時候針對國家安全相關的預算要進行完整的報告揭露也要求行政院要\n\n03:34.073 --> 03:49.608\n提出國家安全戰略的總計劃而且要送立法院這是一個非常危及總統職權而且他是一個全新的立法我請你們全面要做好因應未來民進黨團當然在立法院會全面捍衛國家安全好謝謝\n\n03:54.272 --> 04:08.934\n下一頁三大惡法通過之後我想今天非常多的委員都垂詢民進黨團針對選罷法跟限訴法已經進行釋憲的準備才化法的部分下一頁下一頁下一頁\n\n04:10.222 --> 04:30.459\n我一直說這個法可以改名了只管收入不管支出錢下放權沒有一併的來移轉所以他就改名叫做財政收入劃分法了您來自於屏東縣我們的總統賴清德來自於台南下一頁\n\n04:31.620 --> 05:00.305\n這麼多的縣市首長這樣一個二修之後變成國民黨執政的縣市吃香喝辣民進黨執政的縣市們大家嗷嗷待哺喝西北風我看到黃偉哲看到陳其邁市長包括周春米縣長都針對修法的不公不義提出了批判這個部分就交於秘書長您來自南台灣國境之南怎麼樣來提出你們的看法解方\n\n05:01.319 --> 05:26.892\n謝謝委員的關心那我想這一點這個二修的裁判法根本沒有賦予在裁判法修正只是要錢那沒有科目空有收這個錢但沒有科目這不符合預算的一個相關的指引另外第二個分配的不均導致城鄉差距越大以屏東縣我的家鄉為言是全國分配最少\n\n05:27.392 --> 05:42.888\n而且人之初以一個平均人的得到是全國倒數第二極其不公平對於過去縱北青藍包括整個城鄉軍人對屏東縣民而言更是不公所以我們對於這一部財化法\n\n05:43.829 --> 05:48.716\n目前只是搶錢但沒有把一些應盡的義務與責任只是錢錢但沒有把這些地方支出怎麼樣尊爵開支怎麼樣應盡的義務與責任等等這些都完全沒有任何的說法\n\n05:59.912 --> 05:59.932\n好!\n\n06:15.730 --> 06:23.956\n總統府也會尊重行政院對裁划法提出復議案的準備。也謝謝立法院黨團對於裁划法、限訴法、議後選罷法三大法的立法過程大家辛苦。同時也尊重立法院黨團的釋憲暫時處分與否包括行政院等我們基本上都尊重也謝謝。\n\n06:39.949 --> 07:01.593\n好那我下一個主題喔就是三大委員會的成立那這是領導台灣的具體行動下一頁但當我們看到國際社會都肯定總統府成立尤其是以全社會的防衛任性我們看到美方有特別的大大的給予肯定這不只是守護台灣更是捍衛台灣\n\n07:04.554 --> 07:19.826\n在這個peacemaker的角度、角色在印太地區扮演更積極的國際參與。國際肯定在野黨當然就只能為攻擊而攻擊。他們所說的跌床架屋侵害行政院的權責說的黑機關完全都不成立。\n\n07:25.470 --> 07:53.209\n因為我們有清楚的法源依據中央行政機關基準法28條機關組成任務編組這就是具體的法律授權更何況馬英九擔任總統的時候他甚至要修中華民國總統府的組織法更要去做編預算增援額的新任組織的是馬英九的任內要做的來這個部分你是不是說明一下\n\n07:53.669 --> 08:11.415\n是,我想第一個從法院依據這個委員會是任務邊組法院依據除了按照中央行政機關組織基本法以外那也不用設置什麼要點在阿扁總統、陳前總統也設置了科技諮詢委員會甚至論壇馬前總統更是設計設立了四個這個委員會及論壇那蔡前總統一樣賴總不能輪到賴總統做\n\n08:21.718 --> 08:29.260\n又禁止他設立這個任務編組第一個不會增加人力也不會增加很多的預算我想每一個人總統有他的新的思維希望能夠未來引領國政的發展的綱領那我想這些也經過充分三大委員會的討論目前已經開了七大場還有二十幾場的分組討論等等那未來在明年度又有這個十二大場\n\n08:47.944 --> 09:06.119\n甚至要舉行兵推演練那針對剛剛委員所提示的全民防衛任性的部分除了美國肯定歐盟肯定以外北約國家上個禮拜也特別對台灣這樣感到興趣他們也同時北約國家也希望能提供\n\n09:06.599 --> 09:10.523\n他們的經驗分享他們也提高全社會韌性的一個韌性的一個提升分享這樣的經驗我想這個是未來不管台灣面臨的這種多地震多颱風或是疫情極端氣候的變遷從救災救難從平時到暫時但很遺憾部分媒體把它扭曲部分人把它扭曲了可是名利\n\n09:31.981 --> 09:56.696\n他不是民兵是民力我相信我們跟很多宗教團體如慈濟佛光山基督教長老教會一貫道等這些都是可是在救災救難的時候的民力他們不是民兵所以很多人刻意把他扭曲甚至是批評黑箱機關那我認為新的總統有他新的作為我相信我們都應以尊重但我們會尊絕開支謝謝\n\n09:58.517 --> 10:23.536\n謝謝秘書長的統合說明他不是黑機關因為有法源對不對馬英九時期也做我們看下一頁所以說從李登輝陳水扁馬英九到蔡英文四任總統均有任務編組的設立以蔡前總統年改新南向思改還有援助民族的轉型爭議委員會這些都有\n\n10:24.236 --> 10:24.396\n關於總統府總預算凍結項目2案\n\n10:54.597 --> 11:04.655\n4個任務編組他一個有設置要點陳水扁總統有5個有設置要點那小英總統有5個任務編組有設置要點下一頁\n\n11:05.936 --> 11:09.278\n我認為我個人認為有設置要點是讓我們可以更健全更有利其實站在國會監督的角度我可以針對你們的人員產生性別主流化有沒有貫徹他扮演的任務是不是能夠更扣合著國家發展的需要我拋出這樣子的一個建議我認為如果有設置要點\n\n11:28.948 --> 11:30.769\n也許也是一個正面的事務我覺得我拋給你們,我們一起來研議,好嗎?好,謝謝,謝謝委員的提出。好,再用時間。好,謝謝。好,謝謝潘秉桑,謝謝吳委員。接下來\n\n","segments":[{"start":6.109,"end":9.11,"text":"臺灣正面臨民主的政變,憲政的危機到底有解無解,臺灣社會都在問。"},{"start":27.048,"end":54.476,"text":"作為執政黨我們執政黨團我們也多次的對外預告在野黨在做的是擴權上個會期推了國會擴權法案第二步是搶錢不斷的提出非常多的錢坑法案之外又通過了才化法挖空了中央的財源沒收民權對準的是選罷法摧毀憲法就是我們現在在善後的憲法訴訟法的惡修以及人事同意權大法官被癱瘓了"},{"start":55.936,"end":74.683,"text":"所以這些都是民主政變的現在進行式下一頁我以法案回應到法案違憲的法案有這麼多民進黨團已經針對三個二修的法案憲速法以及選罷法我們提起進行事先的準備"},{"start":75.743,"end":92.262,"text":"我要請您看的是違憲親中亂政乾坑法案當中跟總統府權限大有相關的我要請總統府預先去準備親中法案當中的國家安全戰略法草案"},{"start":93.463,"end":108.892,"text":"這個是國民黨團透過國家安全戰略法的立法要把總統的國安全受制於立法院請問總統府有沒有針對這樣一個又是立法院的擴權而且把手"},{"start":109.973,"end":123.498,"text":"之前是升到司法院升到監察院現在是堂而皇之把立法院的政黨的黑手升到總統的國家安全的統一的權限總統府有沒有預先因應"},{"start":125.186,"end":142.776,"text":"好謝謝委員的指導我想委員辛苦了這段期間不管是任何法案的推動或預算審查委員所率領的黨團大家都很辛苦在這邊特別代表自謝那同時在剛剛所提到的國家安全戰略法草案"},{"start":143.476,"end":159.718,"text":"目前我們國安會國安局大概也密切的關注那也針對這些草案的內容來去做分析我們目前大概智庫上也去做討論了包括反正滲透法的修正案等等那同時"},{"start":161.179,"end":184.729,"text":"這個也會燉請行政院未來在相關的一些國家安全戰略的一些方式能夠提新的一個法案來未來通過大院的協助能夠通過之後未來對於我們台灣怎麼確保在國家安全戰略不單只是這個只是這個軍事而已還有很多國防"},{"start":185.769,"end":213.192,"text":"國防以外還有很多的經濟戰略上包括科技產業的怎麼樣來做一個管制我想這些我們都有密切的來注意謝謝秘書長的回答我要再次提醒就國家安全戰略法他是一個全新的立法他要求行政院未來每年向立法院進行總預算的報告時候針對國家安全相關的預算要進行完整的報告揭露也要求行政院要"},{"start":214.073,"end":229.608,"text":"提出國家安全戰略的總計劃而且要送立法院這是一個非常危及總統職權而且他是一個全新的立法我請你們全面要做好因應未來民進黨團當然在立法院會全面捍衛國家安全好謝謝"},{"start":234.272,"end":248.934,"text":"下一頁三大惡法通過之後我想今天非常多的委員都垂詢民進黨團針對選罷法跟限訴法已經進行釋憲的準備才化法的部分下一頁下一頁下一頁"},{"start":250.222,"end":270.459,"text":"我一直說這個法可以改名了只管收入不管支出錢下放權沒有一併的來移轉所以他就改名叫做財政收入劃分法了您來自於屏東縣我們的總統賴清德來自於台南下一頁"},{"start":271.62,"end":300.305,"text":"這麼多的縣市首長這樣一個二修之後變成國民黨執政的縣市吃香喝辣民進黨執政的縣市們大家嗷嗷待哺喝西北風我看到黃偉哲看到陳其邁市長包括周春米縣長都針對修法的不公不義提出了批判這個部分就交於秘書長您來自南台灣國境之南怎麼樣來提出你們的看法解方"},{"start":301.319,"end":326.892,"text":"謝謝委員的關心那我想這一點這個二修的裁判法根本沒有賦予在裁判法修正只是要錢那沒有科目空有收這個錢但沒有科目這不符合預算的一個相關的指引另外第二個分配的不均導致城鄉差距越大以屏東縣我的家鄉為言是全國分配最少"},{"start":327.392,"end":342.888,"text":"而且人之初以一個平均人的得到是全國倒數第二極其不公平對於過去縱北青藍包括整個城鄉軍人對屏東縣民而言更是不公所以我們對於這一部財化法"},{"start":343.829,"end":348.716,"text":"目前只是搶錢但沒有把一些應盡的義務與責任只是錢錢但沒有把這些地方支出怎麼樣尊爵開支怎麼樣應盡的義務與責任等等這些都完全沒有任何的說法"},{"start":359.912,"end":359.932,"text":"好!"},{"start":375.73,"end":383.956,"text":"總統府也會尊重行政院對裁划法提出復議案的準備。也謝謝立法院黨團對於裁划法、限訴法、議後選罷法三大法的立法過程大家辛苦。同時也尊重立法院黨團的釋憲暫時處分與否包括行政院等我們基本上都尊重也謝謝。"},{"start":399.949,"end":421.593,"text":"好那我下一個主題喔就是三大委員會的成立那這是領導台灣的具體行動下一頁但當我們看到國際社會都肯定總統府成立尤其是以全社會的防衛任性我們看到美方有特別的大大的給予肯定這不只是守護台灣更是捍衛台灣"},{"start":424.554,"end":439.826,"text":"在這個peace 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