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00:01:25,773\n相關114年度的預算案在稅出編列是319億。如果按照這一個三減,就扣除掉法律義務支出84億,有其他的235億將受到影響,因為這樣一比例三減如果是28%的話就是65億。\n\n6\n00:01:33,397 --> 00:01:58,832\n這個會明顯很直接的衝擊到我們外交工作,特別是在國際組織、交流還有跟友邦的合作計畫。這個都是,尤其是包括我們駐外管處的一些運作當然也都會連帶受到影響。好,那麼我們看到的是最新的財政委員會,下個禮拜開會的時候,他們的召委陳玉珍就已經要求要重新來編訂跟評估,部長怎麼看?\n\n7\n00:02:04,612 --> 00:02:18,200\n因為其實這個關鍵在做財劃法的修改跟配套因為它的這個支出跟收入還有相關的一個需要\n\n8\n00:02:20,046 --> 00:02:23,431\n刑事司法互助條約案。四、審查行政院函請審議（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事司法互助條約案。五、審查行政院函請審議\n\n9\n00:02:35,367 --> 00:02:36,588\n三、審查行政院函請審議:「中華民國（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事\n\n10\n00:02:55,530 --> 00:03:11,184\n那麼信友的福利之外其實國家不論是外交或國防相對的重要在這個部分的影響性我建議部長也必須把它具體化的落實讓民眾知道因為不論國防或外交其實是守護國家非常重要的第一道防線所以在這裡也提醒部長\n\n11\n00:03:13,546 --> 00:03:30,291\n因為預期心理,因為這個預算的不確定性,我們很多規劃或很多的要洽商的事情就沒辦法展開,因為公務員是依法行政的,所以這個即使是延後去重新編列,那一拖半年,那我們的政務會受到很大的影響。\n\n12\n00:03:30,691 --> 00:03:47,018\n尤其是很多外交工作其實不能等,我們不能跟我們的友邦說,抱歉,你等等一下,我們預算沒有下來,那麼我們到底要怎麼樣處理。所以在這裡,其實對於外交業務的衝擊的部分,外交部也有這個責任,必須要讓全國民眾知道。好,那麼我回到,我們,來下一頁。\n\n13\n00:03:49,719 --> 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部長請\n部長早進入今天的條約簽訂的主題之前我想要先請問您我們上個星期五因為這個財政收支劃分法已經重新的來做翻修那麼我們知道3700億對於整體的中央政府總預算來講大概就是28%的中央政府的可以運用的經費現在必須要依照新法如果\n總統公告之後可能會影響到的是中央政府的各個部會昨天陸續其實包括像國防部這邊也出估了大概就是有800億的部分包括經濟部、衛福部都有不知道外交部這邊有沒有來盤點我們知道外交工作有很多的部分其實都是在海外其實不論是我們外交鞏固邦誼或者是拓展我們新的外交關係都是需要的\n那麼部長有沒有盤點過對於整個外交部的影響是什麼?跟委員報告外交部有盤點那因為外交部主管\n相關114年度的預算案在稅出編列是319億。如果按照這一個三減,就扣除掉法律義務支出84億,有其他的235億將受到影響,因為這樣一比例三減如果是28%的話就是65億。\n這個會明顯很直接的衝擊到我們外交工作,特別是在國際組織、交流還有跟友邦的合作計畫。這個都是,尤其是包括我們駐外管處的一些運作當然也都會連帶受到影響。好,那麼我們看到的是最新的財政委員會,下個禮拜開會的時候,他們的召委陳玉珍就已經要求要重新來編訂跟評估,部長怎麼看?\n因為其實這個關鍵在做財劃法的修改跟配套因為它的這個支出跟收入還有相關的一個需要\n刑事司法互助條約案。四、審查行政院函請審議（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事司法互助條約案。五、審查行政院函請審議\n三、審查行政院函請審議:「中華民國（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事\n那麼信友的福利之外其實國家不論是外交或國防相對的重要在這個部分的影響性我建議部長也必須把它具體化的落實讓民眾知道因為不論國防或外交其實是守護國家非常重要的第一道防線所以在這裡也提醒部長\n因為預期心理,因為這個預算的不確定性,我們很多規劃或很多的要洽商的事情就沒辦法展開,因為公務員是依法行政的,所以這個即使是延後去重新編列,那一拖半年,那我們的政務會受到很大的影響。\n尤其是很多外交工作其實不能等,我們不能跟我們的友邦說,抱歉,你等等一下,我們預算沒有下來,那麼我們到底要怎麼樣處理。所以在這裡,其實對於外交業務的衝擊的部分,外交部也有這個責任,必須要讓全國民眾知道。好,那麼我回到,我們,來下一頁。\n有關於今天我們講到的是三跟三個友邦所簽訂的司法互助的協定那我們都知道其實對於民眾來講公開政府的資訊公開對於民眾相對是非常重要的部長您知道我們現在有多少友邦來簽訂協定嗎我們就是有六個友邦然後有六個不是我們的邦交國好來我要請這個黃政次主席來\n本席在法務部上面的網站目前看到的司法互助跟協定是看到20筆可是在外交部的條約協定的資料庫看到的卻是23筆我想就叫兩位到底誰的哪一邊的資料是正確的好來部長\n因為我們現在是講一些刑事互助方面我剛剛提到那當然也有一些民事還有其他的包括一些合作的一個項目所以說外交部是因為又涵蓋了其他的一些民事上面的部分嗎來,市長因為我們跟幾個國家包括越南在內我們另外簽的是民事的司法互助協定\n刑事司法互助條約案\n法務部的網頁沒有錯但是如果跟民事有關會通通涵蓋在外交部這裡但是這個其實會讓民眾會有一些產生一些confuse包括本席在了解的時候就會覺得說怎麼會一個是20筆一個是23筆那麼我認為讓民眾來查詢也了解自己的權利是蠻重要的在這個部分建議用一個更有效的方式來公開讓民眾來了解\n那我們回去之後研議一下,看是不是要跟外交部來投布。當然這個事涉這個權管,所以我們還是要跟這個外交部來討論一下。好,也許全部都由外交部來公布,或是怎麼樣,那我覺得這個其實是可以好好來研議。最後一點點時間我要問的就是剛剛有講到台核,那麼本席因為是台法的國會聯誼會的會長,法國這裡其實也在關心司法互助的進度,那麼不知道現在台法之間的司法互助有沒有什麼新的進度?\n跟委員報告因為那個法方目前在積極跟我們洽談這個受刑人這個移交的相關的協議那因為雙方從107年開始討論到現在那還有一些關鍵的問題還在洽談當中那因為現在法方比較積極所以我們也會跟外交部這邊協同用最快的速度積極來辦理相關的事務\n刑事司法互助條約案。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.630 --> 00:02.694\n謝主席主席先請外交部林部長來部長請\n\n00:11.664 --> 00:17.688\n部長早進入今天的條約簽訂的主題之前我想要先請問您我們上個星期五因為這個財政收支劃分法已經重新的來做翻修那麼我們知道3700億對於整體的中央政府總預算來講大概就是28%的中央政府的可以運用的經費現在必須要依照新法如果\n\n00:34.439 --> 01:01.906\n總統公告之後可能會影響到的是中央政府的各個部會昨天陸續其實包括像國防部這邊也出估了大概就是有800億的部分包括經濟部、衛福部都有不知道外交部這邊有沒有來盤點我們知道外交工作有很多的部分其實都是在海外其實不論是我們外交鞏固邦誼或者是拓展我們新的外交關係都是需要的\n\n01:02.526 --> 01:10.722\n那麼部長有沒有盤點過對於整個外交部的影響是什麼?跟委員報告外交部有盤點那因為外交部主管\n\n01:12.526 --> 01:25.773\n相關114年度的預算案在稅出編列是319億。如果按照這一個三減,就扣除掉法律義務支出84億,有其他的235億將受到影響,因為這樣一比例三減如果是28%的話就是65億。\n\n01:33.397 --> 01:58.832\n這個會明顯很直接的衝擊到我們外交工作,特別是在國際組織、交流還有跟友邦的合作計畫。這個都是,尤其是包括我們駐外管處的一些運作當然也都會連帶受到影響。好,那麼我們看到的是最新的財政委員會,下個禮拜開會的時候,他們的召委陳玉珍就已經要求要重新來編訂跟評估,部長怎麼看?\n\n02:04.612 --> 02:18.200\n因為其實這個關鍵在做財劃法的修改跟配套因為它的這個支出跟收入還有相關的一個需要\n\n02:20.046 --> 02:23.431\n刑事司法互助條約案。四、審查行政院函請審議（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事司法互助條約案。五、審查行政院函請審議\n\n02:35.367 --> 02:36.588\n三、審查行政院函請審議:「中華民國（臺灣．政府與聖露西亞政府刑事\n\n02:55.530 --> 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