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00:00:23,312\n主席那我們在討論今天的這個揭弊者保護法的第15條第15條是屬於對於揭弊者的身份保護那身份保護呢事實上這個我們也是支持對揭弊者\n\n2\n00:00:25,222 --> 00:00:48,173\n你去對他的身份去適度的不要讓他被揭露是對他是一個很好的一個保護方式但是我還是要強調因為今天在討論整個整部揭弊者保護法我們講到的朱雅虎那也許很多人都會去問號說那朱雅虎他是共犯啊因為他應該是受了他們審慶金的\n\n3\n00:00:50,554 --> 00:01:11,972\n要求然後去做行賄的動作所以它是共犯那它是屬於揭弊者保護法保護的一個範圍嗎我跟大家來說明一下請大家看再修正動議第13條揭弊者系揭弊內容所涉犯罪之正犯或共犯符合政人保護法第3條及第14條之一的要件者\n\n4\n00:01:12,472 --> 00:01:38,999\n那他也是揭弊者保護法所應該要保障的範圍所以縱使朱雅虎是共犯他一樣是屬於應該要被保護的一個範圍那既然咧朱雅虎屬於揭弊者保護法應該要保障的一個範圍那他未來會有什麼權利呢對於他身為揭弊者然後你去對他說不實的指控造成他的名譽受損的話他可以依照第8條來行使他的\n\n5\n00:01:41,581 --> 00:01:42,685\n權力的一個救濟第8條告訴我們勒\n\n6\n00:01:45,972 --> 00:02:08,698\n18條告訴我們他可以做回復名譽的損害賠償的一個請求所以他可以去做這樣的請求然後還有所謂的第12條就是說如果你這一個對於揭弊者有不利行為的人你是公務員你就應該受到公務員懲戒法你不是公務員了依第12條揭弊者懲戒委員會可以給你處罰20萬元以上\n\n7\n00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:37,410\n2億元以下的法案所以我們看到的這裡就很清楚了為什麼黃國昌要在昨天開記者會然後再攻擊朱雅虎細思極恐啊因為昨天揭弊者保護法還沒有完成三讀所以沒有受到整部法律的保障所以他這樣的攻擊揭弊者他就是沒有法律責任\n\n8\n00:02:38,130 --> 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