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00:00:29,611\n主席各位同仁大家好今天是2024最後一天明天就進入到2025年而台灣也進入超高齡社會我們的老年人口即將來到20%每五個人就有一位是老人所以無論是國會無論是中央政府地方政府我們都應該要更重視老人相關的照顧服務工作\n\n2\n00:00:30,191 --> 00:00:46,949\n而今天所提出來的就業服務法第46條修正案就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免憑巴士量表大家都知道衛福部的統計告訴我們80歲以上的長者\n\n3\n00:00:47,930 --> 00:01:08,008\n近半數日常生活都需要有人照顧而照顧他的這些人正是有66%是勞動力的人口所以一個家庭如果有80歲以上長者需要照顧的話這些照顧者有些必須辭掉工作\n\n4\n00:01:08,889 --> 00:01:29,759\n那另外一個我們也看到80歲以上的長者能獨立外出行走者不到半數所以要他們舟車勞頓到醫院奔波然後去做申請巴士量表其實是一個相當擾民而且讓長者其實非常有負擔的一個行為\n\n5\n00:01:30,819 --> 00:01:59,401\n所以在民間很多人都主張這樣的一個老人家基本上超過80歲有很多他們的行動力已經變弱他需要有人照顧本來就有資格來申請外籍看護工但是現行的制度過於擾民也過於嚴苛所以讓很多的長者去申請也不一定可以拿到巴士量表順利的去請看護\n\n6\n00:02:01,042 --> 00:02:17,329\n因此這次國民黨有多位委員我們提出來的這樣的一個版本有關於救福法第46條的修正就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免於奔波之苦只要他年齡超過80歲家人\n\n7\n00:02:19,390 --> 00:02:29,455\n覺得他有需要就可以去申請外籍看護工而這樣的一個法案在委員會裡面上個會期5月17號院會一讀委員會也經過5月27號5月29號6月13號的一個委員會的審查而在6月27號\n\n8\n00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:52,844\n本人也召集協商到目前已經超過半年了有非常多超過80歲以上的老人這樣的一個家庭他們一直在等待也一直在詢問這樣這個法案\n\n9\n00:02:54,745 --> 00:03:19,221\n立法院到底什麼時候要通過那我想今天透過朝野協商也順利的這個案子目前已經排進來我們要開始來審查我希望在審查這個案子我們是基於簡證辯明基於去照顧這些超過80歲以上的長者他的家庭需要我們共同來通過這樣的一個法案\n\n10\n00:03:20,061 --> 00:03:48,566\n讓這些家庭長者在有人照顧的情況底下他的子女也可以更安心在職場上面繼續為台灣的經濟來打拼所以再次呼籲我們在座的所有的委員這個法案關乎很多超過80歲以上長者的家庭他們有這個照顧的需求我們應該要苦民所苦也應該要看到我們邁入超高齡社會之後這一些長輩\n\n11\n00:03:49,706 --> 00:04:10,091\n這一些家庭的需求因此有關於救福法第46條這個80歲以上的長者可以免巴士量表的這樣一個修正案希望不分朝野大家共同來支持讓我們一起為80歲以上的長者來打造更安全\n\n12\n00:04:10,931 --> 00:04:30,550\n更友善更有尊嚴的照顧環境希望大家等一下審議法案的時候可以共同來支持也作為即將要跨年即將要邁入2025年我們給這一些超過80幾歲的長者有這個照顧需求的家庭送給他們一個新年\n\n13\n00:04:31,050 --> 00:04:50,323\n最好的禮物讓他們可以更安心可以在家長長輩有需求的時候找到需要適合的看護來協助照顧我們的長者再一次希望大家共同來支持讓救福法第46條的修正案可以順利審查通過謝謝謝謝王育敏召集委員的補充說明報告委員會本案經審查會決議\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2267\t29611\t主席各位同仁大家好今天是2024最後一天明天就進入到2025年而台灣也進入超高齡社會我們的老年人口即將來到20%每五個人就有一位是老人所以無論是國會無論是中央政府地方政府我們都應該要更重視老人相關的照顧服務工作\n30191\t46949\t而今天所提出來的就業服務法第46條修正案就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免憑巴士量表大家都知道衛福部的統計告訴我們80歲以上的長者\n47930\t68008\t近半數日常生活都需要有人照顧而照顧他的這些人正是有66%是勞動力的人口所以一個家庭如果有80歲以上長者需要照顧的話這些照顧者有些必須辭掉工作\n68889\t89759\t那另外一個我們也看到80歲以上的長者能獨立外出行走者不到半數所以要他們舟車勞頓到醫院奔波然後去做申請巴士量表其實是一個相當擾民而且讓長者其實非常有負擔的一個行為\n90819\t119401\t所以在民間很多人都主張這樣的一個老人家基本上超過80歲有很多他們的行動力已經變弱他需要有人照顧本來就有資格來申請外籍看護工但是現行的制度過於擾民也過於嚴苛所以讓很多的長者去申請也不一定可以拿到巴士量表順利的去請看護\n121042\t137329\t因此這次國民黨有多位委員我們提出來的這樣的一個版本有關於救福法第46條的修正就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免於奔波之苦只要他年齡超過80歲家人\n139390\t149455\t覺得他有需要就可以去申請外籍看護工而這樣的一個法案在委員會裡面上個會期5月17號院會一讀委員會也經過5月27號5月29號6月13號的一個委員會的審查而在6月27號\n159459\t172844\t本人也召集協商到目前已經超過半年了有非常多超過80歲以上的老人這樣的一個家庭他們一直在等待也一直在詢問這樣這個法案\n174745\t199221\t立法院到底什麼時候要通過那我想今天透過朝野協商也順利的這個案子目前已經排進來我們要開始來審查我希望在審查這個案子我們是基於簡證辯明基於去照顧這些超過80歲以上的長者他的家庭需要我們共同來通過這樣的一個法案\n200061\t228566\t讓這些家庭長者在有人照顧的情況底下他的子女也可以更安心在職場上面繼續為台灣的經濟來打拼所以再次呼籲我們在座的所有的委員這個法案關乎很多超過80歲以上長者的家庭他們有這個照顧的需求我們應該要苦民所苦也應該要看到我們邁入超高齡社會之後這一些長輩\n229706\t250091\t這一些家庭的需求因此有關於救福法第46條這個80歲以上的長者可以免巴士量表的這樣一個修正案希望不分朝野大家共同來支持讓我們一起為80歲以上的長者來打造更安全\n250931\t270550\t更友善更有尊嚴的照顧環境希望大家等一下審議法案的時候可以共同來支持也作為即將要跨年即將要邁入2025年我們給這一些超過80幾歲的長者有這個照顧需求的家庭送給他們一個新年\n271050\t290323\t最好的禮物讓他們可以更安心可以在家長長輩有需求的時候找到需要適合的看護來協助照顧我們的長者再一次希望大家共同來支持讓救福法第46條的修正案可以順利審查通過謝謝謝謝王育敏召集委員的補充說明報告委員會本案經審查會決議\n","txt":"主席各位同仁大家好今天是2024最後一天明天就進入到2025年而台灣也進入超高齡社會我們的老年人口即將來到20%每五個人就有一位是老人所以無論是國會無論是中央政府地方政府我們都應該要更重視老人相關的照顧服務工作\n而今天所提出來的就業服務法第46條修正案就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免憑巴士量表大家都知道衛福部的統計告訴我們80歲以上的長者\n近半數日常生活都需要有人照顧而照顧他的這些人正是有66%是勞動力的人口所以一個家庭如果有80歲以上長者需要照顧的話這些照顧者有些必須辭掉工作\n那另外一個我們也看到80歲以上的長者能獨立外出行走者不到半數所以要他們舟車勞頓到醫院奔波然後去做申請巴士量表其實是一個相當擾民而且讓長者其實非常有負擔的一個行為\n所以在民間很多人都主張這樣的一個老人家基本上超過80歲有很多他們的行動力已經變弱他需要有人照顧本來就有資格來申請外籍看護工但是現行的制度過於擾民也過於嚴苛所以讓很多的長者去申請也不一定可以拿到巴士量表順利的去請看護\n因此這次國民黨有多位委員我們提出來的這樣的一個版本有關於救福法第46條的修正就是要讓80歲以上的老人可以免於奔波之苦只要他年齡超過80歲家人\n覺得他有需要就可以去申請外籍看護工而這樣的一個法案在委員會裡面上個會期5月17號院會一讀委員會也經過5月27號5月29號6月13號的一個委員會的審查而在6月27號\n本人也召集協商到目前已經超過半年了有非常多超過80歲以上的老人這樣的一個家庭他們一直在等待也一直在詢問這樣這個法案\n立法院到底什麼時候要通過那我想今天透過朝野協商也順利的這個案子目前已經排進來我們要開始來審查我希望在審查這個案子我們是基於簡證辯明基於去照顧這些超過80歲以上的長者他的家庭需要我們共同來通過這樣的一個法案\n讓這些家庭長者在有人照顧的情況底下他的子女也可以更安心在職場上面繼續為台灣的經濟來打拼所以再次呼籲我們在座的所有的委員這個法案關乎很多超過80歲以上長者的家庭他們有這個照顧的需求我們應該要苦民所苦也應該要看到我們邁入超高齡社會之後這一些長輩\n這一些家庭的需求因此有關於救福法第46條這個80歲以上的長者可以免巴士量表的這樣一個修正案希望不分朝野大家共同來支持讓我們一起為80歲以上的長者來打造更安全\n更友善更有尊嚴的照顧環境希望大家等一下審議法案的時候可以共同來支持也作為即將要跨年即將要邁入2025年我們給這一些超過80幾歲的長者有這個照顧需求的家庭送給他們一個新年\n最好的禮物讓他們可以更安心可以在家長長輩有需求的時候找到需要適合的看護來協助照顧我們的長者再一次希望大家共同來支持讓救福法第46條的修正案可以順利審查通過謝謝謝謝王育敏召集委員的補充說明報告委員會本案經審查會決議\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.267 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