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00:01:00,462\n也發生了一個很大的震盪其實在早上也有很多委員問到了很多在這裡我想請教院長就是說你知不知道台積電在亞利桑那州的一個投資投資了多少錢\n\n4\n00:01:03,268 --> 00:01:23,443\n前前後後加起來會達到六百五十億美金那他要再加碼一千億我想請教就是說其實在過去四年裡頭陸續的規劃在當地就是要蓋了三座競研廠第一座他希望生產4奈米的一個晶片\n\n5\n00:01:24,184 --> 00:01:51,697\n那預計在今年上半年就是要開始生產可是這個進度一直都是落後的所以就是說請教院長你看威澤家董事長他講了他要投資一千億的一個美金那你認為就是說在未來的四年這個進度會不會就是會延後還是說也會超前去部署呢\n\n6\n00:01:53,780 --> 00:02:20,856\n這個產業界的對外投資啊其實政府跟他們之間都保持有密切的聯繫跟接觸有互相瞭解在亞利桑那州的投資目前第一場接近要開始量產的時候第二場還在施工中第三場根本還沒有開始所以我認為產業界一樣的它也是循序漸進依照它的資金依照它的這個時程的規劃會持續進行下去的那這個也是民主供應鏈的形成的一部分\n\n7\n00:02:21,736 --> 00:02:39,203\n當然也配合著我們跟美國持續加強成長各種投資以及合作的必要的一個政策我想是朝這個方向在走跟留台灣壯大台灣可是到底是課了100%的關稅是比較划得來還是投資1000億的美金比較划得來\n\n8\n00:02:45,970 --> 00:03:11,793\n我覺得產業界在這個計算方面他除了他自己之外還有很多的下游的協力廠商整個產業供應鏈他都必須要完整的下去那不只是擔心說對台積電瞌睡不瞌睡的問題跟所有的產業都要連結起來看那麼他們一定是站在對產業有利也符合國家我們國家戰略思考的這個角度上去做事那就是說再請教議員長跟部長\n\n9\n00:03:12,233 --> 00:03:39,349\n有沒有機會就是在這一個商業談判的過程裡頭我們還可以去爭取到更多的一個利多呢這個就是讓政府跟政府之間在促成民間的合作之外政府跟之間一定是繼續的深化加分彼此的關係跟合作那很多的這個談的過程還在談的過程當然我們不便在這裡講太多但是政府的立場站在以國家最有利的方向做出發點\n\n10\n00:03:40,540 --> 00:04:07,308\n以台灣為本向世界出發也用世界來關懷台灣這個是我們現在已經在做的一個方向好謝謝謝謝部長我還有院長我想這個台灣市就是大家的根其實大家最在乎的就是說台灣的經濟在未來的十年在未來的往後的一個歲月裡頭我們是不是可以壯大我們自己這個其實是一個非常好的一個機會我們希望是正向的去看待\n\n11\n00:04:08,488 --> 00:04:35,900\n這個經濟上的一個轉折這個對我們來講是非常大的一個能量那也再一次就是說再跟這個院長請教全球的貿易戰即將爆發那我們從這一張圖裡頭我們可以去看到就是說美國主要的一個貿易國家的一個關稅的一個效率那我們可以從加錢的一個稅率簡單的一個稅率來看台灣的加錢平均大概是1.7%\n\n12\n00:04:37,341 --> 00:05:06,472\n那低於美國的2.2%那簡單就是等於是講就是低於就是6.5%就是相對高於美國的3.3%這個其實我們講到的是一個稅率的一個問題到底就是說讓他就是扣我們的關稅其實是比較對我們是有利的還是說台積電他就是整體的一個輸出到美國是對我們有利的\n\n13\n00:05:06,852 --> 00:05:33,121\n那我想這個是商業上的一個判讀那就是說院長你也講得非常的清楚那這個事實上就是說在整體而言不管是產業的一個那個逆差還是順差是不是你的看法就是說我們可不可能就是說在這個第二波的一個對等關稅的名單裡頭會延後呢是不是不會在4月2號就是去執行\n\n14\n00:05:34,284 --> 00:05:56,045\n因為他剛上來他很兇啊兩個重點向委員來報告第一個我們一直會避免全力去避免不公平的關稅針對台灣的某一個產業或是針對我們自己我想這個避免我們會達到相當的進展如果雙方是對等的關稅那互相在對等公平的原則底下\n\n15\n00:05:57,233 --> 00:06:18,924\n依照我國最有利的立場來做出發我們還是進行這樣的談判這是第一個第二個貿易的利差對每個國家的政府來看都是想極力去平衡的美國當然也不例外他從這個2024年這麼大的一個貿易的利差來看他當然會逐步的要去減弱他的這個貿易的利差把它平衡掉\n\n16\n00:06:19,304 --> 00:06:37,012\n那台灣在這裡因為我們輸出很多高科技的產品這個對美國來講是需要的所以我們相對的我們多增加一些必要性的採購對台灣的產業台灣的國防等等如果是需要我們做增加一個採購也是我們毅然應該要發展的方向\n\n17\n00:06:37,512 --> 00:07:00,528\n好院長那除了就是美國的這個貿易順差較大的半導體跟科技產業以外其實哪些產業會受到比較大的影響不管是就是我們的這個汽車產業還是農業產業尤其是我最關心的就是農業本席的選區太多的一個農業是不是可以提供書面的報告給本席謝謝應該農業的衝擊會是\n\n18\n00:07:05,188 --> 00:07:34,461\n就關稅來看農業的衝擊會是小一點的會是小的好但是我們不會輕鬆的去面對這個情況我們還是非常嚴謹的來看待所有產業所造成的影響好那接著就是說促進經濟行政院在提出就是驚橫台灣的一個重大建設裡頭我們看到了就是針對的這六個六個那個區域的特色產業其中就是我們那個銀嘉南銀嘉南的大\n\n19\n00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:59,384\n那個大台南科技產業這個就是要特別跟那個院長再提醒一次就是說這個大南方新矽谷其實這個科技產業在整體而言我們講了好幾次了講了好幾次了它其實連結到就是以台南的沙崙站為一個主軸那就是說延伸出去\n\n20\n00:07:59,944 --> 00:08:21,457\n延伸出去它其實到了就是在北它是在嘉義那就是在南的話是到高雄跟屏東就獨缺了這一塊就是在我新營這個地方那當然要謝謝院長那也謝謝賴總統他特別建議了一個AI機器人的一個園區在大新營\n\n21\n00:08:22,378 --> 00:08:36,673\n那這一個就是說製造中心製造中心是在柳科那研發中心是在六甲那就是說院長這一個這麼完整的一個計畫它的一個行程會不會延後呢\n\n22\n00:08:37,663 --> 00:08:54,145\n跟委員報告我們沒有跳過台南這個地方尤其是沙崙一直是這裡一個很重要的一個發展的起點的中心那因為在柳營這個科學園區我們發展的是未來好像機器人是機器人的基地那這個什麼的國科會他已經有相當\n\n23\n00:08:55,166 --> 00:09:24,288\n相當進展性的一個規劃將來我們在大南方新矽谷都會把它納進來尤其為了大南方新矽谷會跟桃竹苗大矽谷形成雙引擎帶動台灣整個科技的再發展所以這個部分我們對大南方新矽谷我們會把速度加快會把速度加快對那就是確定就是AI機器人這個研發跟製造的中心其實它就是落在新營跟六甲好那就是院長你的速度會加快是\n\n24\n00:09:24,628 --> 00:09:32,608\n好您的速度會加快主委能夠補充一下報告委員我們在三月底前這個方案就會報院是\n\n25\n00:09:33,766 --> 00:10:02,995\n就會抱怨了三頁就會抱怨了我的速度很快比我想像的還快謝謝謝謝你們大家的幫忙那我想就是這個大S科技狼帶的一個新興的一個帶動它強化了整個大新營的未來指日可待大新營的生活圈那大新營的生活圈的一個優勢特別在這裡跟院長做一個分享你知道我們新營區一坪的那個房價\n\n26\n00:10:03,675 --> 00:10:21,601\n大概是23萬可是在我們鄰近的那個太保太保也是23萬他跳到23到29萬這個你如果去這兩個地方你去看的話你會覺得說哇怎麼怎麼會有這樣子的一個可能那南科是39萬\n\n27\n00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:34,735\n好一起一起就是我的整個大新營區他會有一個很大的一個發展可是在這裡我要跟院長做一個拜託我的新營\n\n28\n00:10:35,816 --> 00:10:54,933\n火車站太破舊了我必須要有一個就是在後火車站我必須要有一個那個停車場那我在這裡我拍一個這個這樣子的一個片子給那個院長看一下這新營火車站的一個亂象這個亂象就是說他的後火車站其實\n\n29\n00:10:56,814 --> 00:11:14,966\n現在有一個850坪的停車場它可以換下70台的汽車那摩托車大概是100多台你看現在全部你看到的都是停在這個後火車站的那個兩側的路上\n\n30\n00:11:15,926 --> 00:11:43,673\n這個完全完全就是沒有政府的狀態那你甚至就是說下了火車的時候你還要怎麼你必須要就是走大概四五分鐘甚至超過五分鐘的時間去找你的車子那事實上就是說我去盤點了盤點了就是在後火車站所有就是我們不管是台塘還是台沿那個他們的一個倉庫因為裡頭只有就是說\n\n31\n00:11:44,893 --> 00:12:10,062\n靠那個國營事業的一個那個共同的開發有沒有機會可以給我一個停車場這個停車場非常非常的重要光是你到我這個城市裡頭來看到了就是說我們的摩托車我們的腳踏車我們的汽車都是停在路兩邊然後那個延伸的一個車輪要四五分鐘我想這個不是一個進步城市的象徵\n\n32\n00:12:11,851 --> 00:12:28,256\n報告委員周圍停車的空間目前大概沒有建置這樣看起來沒有建置我們可能會來盤點一下像委員剛剛建議的台塘的土地或者是其他國營事業的土地在旁邊有沒有空地有的話我們一起來協助地方政府來建置停車場\n\n33\n00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:52,950\n那個部長我再跟你建議一個事情這這個在去年二月的時候已經透過交通部就是那個到現場去那個會刊了那這個議題一直留著一直留著也沒有一個具體的效果所以今天總諮詢的時候我特別提出來就是說讓你們看到了就是說地方的一個需要那地方有需要我想我們應該盡快的來想辦法這個是我對部長跟那個\n\n34\n00:12:57,833 --> 00:13:25,555\n那個院長的一個那個拜託好不好因為我想一個停車場基本上來講的話當然是土地的問題土地如何去就是說去找到土地這個對我們來講是非常重要的好謝謝那接著院長那個我不知道3月8號你會不會到我們的蘭花生物園區後壁的蘭花生物園區我們的世界蘭展就是3月8號即將開幕非常歡迎就是大家\n\n35\n00:13:26,095 --> 00:13:52,566\n到我們那邊來看最特別的一個蘭花那就是3月8號它即將開幕可是這個蘭花園區的一個轉型到花卉產業園區事實上它面臨到了一個很大的一個困難就是說它的時程其實在篡設花卉產業園區裡頭的時候花展中心的時候它缺人又缺錢我剛才特別跑去跟人事總處那個特別\n\n36\n00:13:53,927 --> 00:14:20,209\n跟總處長要求說是不是可以給我人那當然每一個人看到他都是在要人所以就是說院長事實上這個有一個很大的困難那我也希望就是那個農業部長你把我這個四級機構三級機構的一個效能是不是可以把它就是跟院長就是還有我們台南的鄉親做一個充分的溝通\n\n37\n00:14:21,555 --> 00:14:25,663\n農業部答覆一下好像就兩個階段的人事的規劃我先謝謝委員對這個蘭花產業創新園區的一個升格的支持\n\n38\n00:14:31,294 --> 00:14:51,612\n那整個南華園區大概現在分兩個部分第一個部分是有關於基礎建設的部分那我們已經提報中長城公共建設有大概120公頃裡面大概68.25億那這個部分已經進到整個的國會的審查過程中我相信應該會順利那第二個部分是組織面的部分那組織面的部分\n\n39\n00:14:52,172 --> 00:15:15,992\n過往南灣園區純粹只是一個產業我想我再找個時間再好好跟你溝通最後因為我的時間有限我要特別跟院長再做一個報告就是說早上你有特別喊話希望就是重新去檢視總預算接下來你打算怎麼做特別跟你提醒立法院的\n\n40\n00:15:17,293 --> 00:15:26,375\n那個職權法裡頭第34條它有一個規定如果互議案互議案如果一起不決議的話就會失敗這個就會跑回來失敗\n\n41\n00:15:42,042 --> 00:16:00,758\n再一次的拜託立法院能夠重新的審議整個中央政府的預算在附議的過程當中能夠給大家重新再來看看預算這樣的三法是否真的合理能夠重新面對中央政府的預算能夠支持我們\n\n42\n00:16:04,261 --> 00:16:05,703\n好謝謝謝謝賴會員委員的諮詢謝謝卓院長及相關部會所長的備詢謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5025\t11036\t謝謝院長 有請我們的院長跟我們的經濟部部長麻煩請卓院長 經濟部長備詢\n24770\t43541\t院長部長好我想昨天晚上川普跟台積電魏哲嘉董事長的一個會談台積電要滬美投資一千億美金便設立研發中心還有相關的信息其實都讓今天的股票\n44261\t60462\t也發生了一個很大的震盪其實在早上也有很多委員問到了很多在這裡我想請教院長就是說你知不知道台積電在亞利桑那州的一個投資投資了多少錢\n63268\t83443\t前前後後加起來會達到六百五十億美金那他要再加碼一千億我想請教就是說其實在過去四年裡頭陸續的規劃在當地就是要蓋了三座競研廠第一座他希望生產4奈米的一個晶片\n84184\t111697\t那預計在今年上半年就是要開始生產可是這個進度一直都是落後的所以就是說 請教院長你看 威澤家董事長他講了他要投資一千億的一個美金那你認為就是說在未來的四年這個進度會不會就是會延後還是說也會超前去部署呢\n113780\t140856\t這個產業界的對外投資啊其實政府跟他們之間都保持有密切的聯繫跟接觸有互相瞭解在亞利桑那州的投資目前第一場接近要開始量產的時候第二場還在施工中第三場根本還沒有開始所以我認為產業界一樣的它也是循序漸進依照它的資金依照它的這個時程的規劃會持續進行下去的那這個也是民主供應鏈的形成的一部分\n141736\t159203\t當然也配合著我們跟美國持續加強成長各種投資以及合作的必要的一個政策我想是朝這個方向在走跟留台灣 壯大台灣可是到底是課了100%的關稅是比較划得來還是投資1000億的美金比較划得來\n165970\t191793\t我覺得產業界在這個計算方面他除了他自己之外還有很多的下游的協力廠商整個產業供應鏈他都必須要完整的下去那不只是擔心說對台積電瞌睡不瞌睡的問題跟所有的產業都要連結起來看那麼他們一定是站在對產業有利也符合國家我們國家戰略思考的這個角度上去做事那就是說再請教議員長跟部長\n192233\t219349\t有沒有機會就是在這一個商業談判的過程裡頭我們還可以去爭取到更多的一個利多呢這個就是讓政府跟政府之間在促成民間的合作之外政府跟之間一定是繼續的深化加分彼此的關係跟合作那很多的這個談的過程還在談的過程當然我們不便在這裡講太多但是政府的立場站在以國家最有利的方向做出發點\n220540\t247308\t以台灣為本向世界出發也用世界來關懷台灣這個是我們現在已經在做的一個方向好 謝謝謝謝部長我還有院長我想這個台灣市就是大家的根其實大家最在乎的就是說台灣的經濟在未來的十年在未來的往後的一個歲月裡頭我們是不是可以壯大我們自己這個其實是一個非常好的一個機會我們希望是正向的去看待\n248488\t275900\t這個經濟上的一個轉折這個對我們來講是非常大的一個能量那也再一次就是說再跟這個院長請教全球的貿易戰即將爆發那我們從這一張圖裡頭我們可以去看到就是說美國主要的一個貿易國家的一個關稅的一個效率那我們可以從加錢的一個稅率簡單的一個稅率來看台灣的加錢平均大概是1.7%\n277341\t306472\t那低於美國的2.2%那簡單就是等於是講就是低於就是6.5%就是相對高於美國的3.3%這個其實我們講到的是一個稅率的一個問題到底就是說讓他就是扣我們的關稅其實是比較對我們是有利的還是說台積電他就是整體的一個輸出到美國是對我們有利的\n306852\t333121\t那我想這個是商業上的一個判讀那就是說院長你也講得非常的清楚那這個事實上就是說在整體而言不管是產業的一個那個逆差還是順差是不是你的看法就是說我們可不可能就是說在這個第二波的一個對等關稅的名單裡頭會延後呢是不是不會在4月2號就是去執行\n334284\t356045\t因為他剛上來他很兇啊兩個重點向委員來報告第一個我們一直會避免全力去避免不公平的關稅針對台灣的某一個產業或是針對我們自己我想這個避免我們會達到相當的進展如果雙方是對等的關稅那互相在對等公平的原則底下\n357233\t378924\t依照我國最有利的立場來做出發我們還是進行這樣的談判這是第一個第二個貿易的利差對每個國家的政府來看都是想極力去平衡的美國當然也不例外他從這個2024年這麼大的一個貿易的利差來看他當然會逐步的要去減弱他的這個貿易的利差把它平衡掉\n379304\t397012\t那台灣在這裡因為我們輸出很多高科技的產品這個對美國來講是需要的所以我們相對的我們多增加一些必要性的採購對台灣的產業台灣的國防等等如果是需要我們做增加一個採購也是我們毅然應該要發展的方向\n397512\t420528\t好 院長那除了就是美國的這個貿易順差較大的半導體跟科技產業以外其實哪些產業會受到比較大的影響不管是就是我們的這個汽車產業還是農業產業尤其是我最關心的就是農業本席的選區太多的一個農業是不是可以提供書面的報告給本席謝謝應該農業的衝擊會是\n425188\t454461\t就關稅來看農業的衝擊會是小一點的會是小的好但是我們不會輕鬆的去面對這個情況我們還是非常嚴謹的來看待所有產業所造成的影響好那接著就是說促進經濟行政院在提出就是驚橫台灣的一個重大建設裡頭我們看到了就是針對的這六個六個那個區域的特色產業其中就是我們那個銀嘉南銀嘉南的大\n456223\t479384\t那個大台南科技產業這個就是要特別跟那個院長再提醒一次就是說這個大南方新矽谷其實這個科技產業在整體而言我們講了好幾次了講了好幾次了它其實連結到就是以台南的沙崙站為一個主軸那就是說延伸出去\n479944\t501457\t延伸出去它其實到了就是在北它是在嘉義那就是在南的話是到高雄跟屏東就獨缺了這一塊就是在我新營這個地方那當然要謝謝院長那也謝謝賴總統他特別建議了一個AI機器人的一個園區在大新營\n502378\t516673\t那這一個就是說製造中心製造中心是在柳科那研發中心是在六甲那就是說院長這一個這麼完整的一個計畫它的一個行程會不會延後呢\n517663\t534145\t跟委員報告我們沒有跳過台南這個地方尤其是沙崙一直是這裡一個很重要的一個發展的起點的中心那因為在柳營這個科學園區我們發展的是未來好像機器人是機器人的基地那這個什麼的國科會他已經有相當\n535166\t564288\t相當進展性的一個規劃將來我們在大南方新矽谷都會把它納進來尤其為了大南方新矽谷會跟桃竹苗大矽谷形成雙引擎帶動台灣整個科技的再發展所以這個部分我們對大南方新矽谷我們會把速度加快會把速度加快對那就是確定就是AI機器人這個研發跟製造的中心其實它就是落在新營跟六甲好那就是院長你的速度會加快是\n564628\t572608\t好您的速度會加快主委能夠補充一下報告委員我們在三月底前這個方案就會報院是\n573766\t602995\t就會抱怨了三頁就會抱怨了我的速度很快比我想像的還快謝謝謝謝你們大家的幫忙那我想就是這個大S科技狼帶的一個新興的一個帶動它強化了整個大新營的未來指日可待大新營的生活圈那大新營的生活圈的一個優勢特別在這裡跟院長做一個分享你知道我們新營區一坪的那個房價\n603675\t621601\t大概是23萬可是在我們鄰近的那個太保太保也是23萬他跳到23到29萬這個你如果去這兩個地方你去看的話你會覺得說哇怎麼怎麼會有這樣子的一個可能那南科是39萬\n623390\t634735\t好一起一起就是我的整個大新營區他會有一個很大的一個發展可是在這裡我要跟院長做一個拜託我的新營\n635816\t654933\t火車站太破舊了我必須要有一個就是在後火車站我必須要有一個那個停車場那我在這裡我拍一個這個這樣子的一個片子給那個院長看一下這新營火車站的一個亂象這個亂象就是說他的後火車站其實\n656814\t674966\t現在有一個850坪的停車場它可以換下70台的汽車那摩托車大概是100多台你看現在全部你看到的都是停在這個後火車站的那個兩側的路上\n675926\t703673\t這個完全完全就是沒有政府的狀態那你甚至就是說下了火車的時候你還要怎麼你必須要就是走大概四五分鐘甚至超過五分鐘的時間去找你的車子那事實上就是說我去盤點了盤點了就是在後火車站所有就是我們不管是台塘還是台沿那個他們的一個倉庫因為裡頭只有就是說\n704893\t730062\t靠那個國營事業的一個那個共同的開發有沒有機會可以給我一個停車場這個停車場非常非常的重要光是你到我這個城市裡頭來看到了就是說我們的摩托車我們的腳踏車我們的汽車都是停在路兩邊然後那個延伸的一個車輪要四五分鐘我想這個不是一個進步城市的象徵\n731851\t748256\t報告委員 周圍停車的空間目前大概沒有建置這樣看起來沒有建置我們可能會來盤點一下像委員剛剛建議的台塘的土地或者是其他國營事業的土地在旁邊有沒有空地有的話我們一起來協助地方政府來建置停車場\n749216\t772950\t那個部長我再跟你建議一個事情這這個在去年二月的時候已經透過交通部就是那個到現場去那個會刊了那這個議題一直留著一直留著也沒有一個具體的效果所以今天總諮詢的時候我特別提出來就是說讓你們看到了就是說地方的一個需要那地方有需要我想我們應該盡快的來想辦法這個是我對部長跟那個\n777833\t805555\t那個院長的一個那個拜託好不好因為我想一個停車場基本上來講的話當然是土地的問題土地如何去就是說去找到土地這個對我們來講是非常重要的好謝謝那接著院長那個我不知道3月8號你會不會到我們的蘭花生物園區後壁的蘭花生物園區我們的世界蘭展就是3月8號即將開幕非常歡迎就是大家\n806095\t832566\t到我們那邊來看最特別的一個蘭花那就是3月8號它即將開幕可是這個蘭花園區的一個轉型到花卉產業園區事實上它面臨到了一個很大的一個困難就是說它的時程其實在篡設花卉產業園區裡頭的時候花展中心的時候它缺人又缺錢我剛才特別跑去跟人事總處那個特別\n833927\t860209\t跟總處長要求說是不是可以給我人那當然每一個人看到他都是在要人所以就是說院長事實上這個有一個很大的困難那我也希望就是那個農業部長你把我這個四級機構三級機構的一個效能是不是可以把它就是跟院長就是還有我們台南的鄉親做一個充分的溝通\n861555\t865663\t農業部答覆一下好像就兩個階段的人事的規劃我先謝謝委員對這個蘭花產業創新園區的一個升格的支持\n871294\t891612\t那整個南華園區大概現在分兩個部分第一個部分是有關於基礎建設的部分那我們已經提報中長城公共建設有大概120公頃裡面大概68.25億那這個部分已經進到整個的國會的審查過程中我相信應該會順利那第二個部分是組織面的部分那組織面的部分\n892172\t915992\t過往南灣園區純粹只是一個產業我想我再找個時間再好好跟你溝通最後因為我的時間有限我要特別跟院長再做一個報告就是說早上你有特別喊話希望就是重新去檢視總預算接下來你打算怎麼做特別跟你提醒立法院的\n917293\t926375\t那個職權法裡頭第34條它有一個規定如果互議案互議案如果一起不決議的話就會失敗這個就會跑回來失敗\n942042\t960758\t再一次的拜託立法院能夠重新的審議整個中央政府的預算在附議的過程當中能夠給大家重新再來看看預算這樣的三法是否真的合理能夠重新面對中央政府的預算能夠支持我們\n964261\t965703\t好 謝謝 謝謝賴會員委員的諮詢謝謝卓院長及相關部會所長的備詢 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝院長 有請我們的院長跟我們的經濟部部長麻煩請卓院長 經濟部長備詢\n院長部長好我想昨天晚上川普跟台積電魏哲嘉董事長的一個會談台積電要滬美投資一千億美金便設立研發中心還有相關的信息其實都讓今天的股票\n也發生了一個很大的震盪其實在早上也有很多委員問到了很多在這裡我想請教院長就是說你知不知道台積電在亞利桑那州的一個投資投資了多少錢\n前前後後加起來會達到六百五十億美金那他要再加碼一千億我想請教就是說其實在過去四年裡頭陸續的規劃在當地就是要蓋了三座競研廠第一座他希望生產4奈米的一個晶片\n那預計在今年上半年就是要開始生產可是這個進度一直都是落後的所以就是說 請教院長你看 威澤家董事長他講了他要投資一千億的一個美金那你認為就是說在未來的四年這個進度會不會就是會延後還是說也會超前去部署呢\n這個產業界的對外投資啊其實政府跟他們之間都保持有密切的聯繫跟接觸有互相瞭解在亞利桑那州的投資目前第一場接近要開始量產的時候第二場還在施工中第三場根本還沒有開始所以我認為產業界一樣的它也是循序漸進依照它的資金依照它的這個時程的規劃會持續進行下去的那這個也是民主供應鏈的形成的一部分\n當然也配合著我們跟美國持續加強成長各種投資以及合作的必要的一個政策我想是朝這個方向在走跟留台灣 壯大台灣可是到底是課了100%的關稅是比較划得來還是投資1000億的美金比較划得來\n我覺得產業界在這個計算方面他除了他自己之外還有很多的下游的協力廠商整個產業供應鏈他都必須要完整的下去那不只是擔心說對台積電瞌睡不瞌睡的問題跟所有的產業都要連結起來看那麼他們一定是站在對產業有利也符合國家我們國家戰略思考的這個角度上去做事那就是說再請教議員長跟部長\n有沒有機會就是在這一個商業談判的過程裡頭我們還可以去爭取到更多的一個利多呢這個就是讓政府跟政府之間在促成民間的合作之外政府跟之間一定是繼續的深化加分彼此的關係跟合作那很多的這個談的過程還在談的過程當然我們不便在這裡講太多但是政府的立場站在以國家最有利的方向做出發點\n以台灣為本向世界出發也用世界來關懷台灣這個是我們現在已經在做的一個方向好 謝謝謝謝部長我還有院長我想這個台灣市就是大家的根其實大家最在乎的就是說台灣的經濟在未來的十年在未來的往後的一個歲月裡頭我們是不是可以壯大我們自己這個其實是一個非常好的一個機會我們希望是正向的去看待\n這個經濟上的一個轉折這個對我們來講是非常大的一個能量那也再一次就是說再跟這個院長請教全球的貿易戰即將爆發那我們從這一張圖裡頭我們可以去看到就是說美國主要的一個貿易國家的一個關稅的一個效率那我們可以從加錢的一個稅率簡單的一個稅率來看台灣的加錢平均大概是1.7%\n那低於美國的2.2%那簡單就是等於是講就是低於就是6.5%就是相對高於美國的3.3%這個其實我們講到的是一個稅率的一個問題到底就是說讓他就是扣我們的關稅其實是比較對我們是有利的還是說台積電他就是整體的一個輸出到美國是對我們有利的\n那我想這個是商業上的一個判讀那就是說院長你也講得非常的清楚那這個事實上就是說在整體而言不管是產業的一個那個逆差還是順差是不是你的看法就是說我們可不可能就是說在這個第二波的一個對等關稅的名單裡頭會延後呢是不是不會在4月2號就是去執行\n因為他剛上來他很兇啊兩個重點向委員來報告第一個我們一直會避免全力去避免不公平的關稅針對台灣的某一個產業或是針對我們自己我想這個避免我們會達到相當的進展如果雙方是對等的關稅那互相在對等公平的原則底下\n依照我國最有利的立場來做出發我們還是進行這樣的談判這是第一個第二個貿易的利差對每個國家的政府來看都是想極力去平衡的美國當然也不例外他從這個2024年這麼大的一個貿易的利差來看他當然會逐步的要去減弱他的這個貿易的利差把它平衡掉\n那台灣在這裡因為我們輸出很多高科技的產品這個對美國來講是需要的所以我們相對的我們多增加一些必要性的採購對台灣的產業台灣的國防等等如果是需要我們做增加一個採購也是我們毅然應該要發展的方向\n好 院長那除了就是美國的這個貿易順差較大的半導體跟科技產業以外其實哪些產業會受到比較大的影響不管是就是我們的這個汽車產業還是農業產業尤其是我最關心的就是農業本席的選區太多的一個農業是不是可以提供書面的報告給本席謝謝應該農業的衝擊會是\n就關稅來看農業的衝擊會是小一點的會是小的好但是我們不會輕鬆的去面對這個情況我們還是非常嚴謹的來看待所有產業所造成的影響好那接著就是說促進經濟行政院在提出就是驚橫台灣的一個重大建設裡頭我們看到了就是針對的這六個六個那個區域的特色產業其中就是我們那個銀嘉南銀嘉南的大\n那個大台南科技產業這個就是要特別跟那個院長再提醒一次就是說這個大南方新矽谷其實這個科技產業在整體而言我們講了好幾次了講了好幾次了它其實連結到就是以台南的沙崙站為一個主軸那就是說延伸出去\n延伸出去它其實到了就是在北它是在嘉義那就是在南的話是到高雄跟屏東就獨缺了這一塊就是在我新營這個地方那當然要謝謝院長那也謝謝賴總統他特別建議了一個AI機器人的一個園區在大新營\n那這一個就是說製造中心製造中心是在柳科那研發中心是在六甲那就是說院長這一個這麼完整的一個計畫它的一個行程會不會延後呢\n跟委員報告我們沒有跳過台南這個地方尤其是沙崙一直是這裡一個很重要的一個發展的起點的中心那因為在柳營這個科學園區我們發展的是未來好像機器人是機器人的基地那這個什麼的國科會他已經有相當\n相當進展性的一個規劃將來我們在大南方新矽谷都會把它納進來尤其為了大南方新矽谷會跟桃竹苗大矽谷形成雙引擎帶動台灣整個科技的再發展所以這個部分我們對大南方新矽谷我們會把速度加快會把速度加快對那就是確定就是AI機器人這個研發跟製造的中心其實它就是落在新營跟六甲好那就是院長你的速度會加快是\n好您的速度會加快主委能夠補充一下報告委員我們在三月底前這個方案就會報院是\n就會抱怨了三頁就會抱怨了我的速度很快比我想像的還快謝謝謝謝你們大家的幫忙那我想就是這個大S科技狼帶的一個新興的一個帶動它強化了整個大新營的未來指日可待大新營的生活圈那大新營的生活圈的一個優勢特別在這裡跟院長做一個分享你知道我們新營區一坪的那個房價\n大概是23萬可是在我們鄰近的那個太保太保也是23萬他跳到23到29萬這個你如果去這兩個地方你去看的話你會覺得說哇怎麼怎麼會有這樣子的一個可能那南科是39萬\n好一起一起就是我的整個大新營區他會有一個很大的一個發展可是在這裡我要跟院長做一個拜託我的新營\n火車站太破舊了我必須要有一個就是在後火車站我必須要有一個那個停車場那我在這裡我拍一個這個這樣子的一個片子給那個院長看一下這新營火車站的一個亂象這個亂象就是說他的後火車站其實\n現在有一個850坪的停車場它可以換下70台的汽車那摩托車大概是100多台你看現在全部你看到的都是停在這個後火車站的那個兩側的路上\n這個完全完全就是沒有政府的狀態那你甚至就是說下了火車的時候你還要怎麼你必須要就是走大概四五分鐘甚至超過五分鐘的時間去找你的車子那事實上就是說我去盤點了盤點了就是在後火車站所有就是我們不管是台塘還是台沿那個他們的一個倉庫因為裡頭只有就是說\n靠那個國營事業的一個那個共同的開發有沒有機會可以給我一個停車場這個停車場非常非常的重要光是你到我這個城市裡頭來看到了就是說我們的摩托車我們的腳踏車我們的汽車都是停在路兩邊然後那個延伸的一個車輪要四五分鐘我想這個不是一個進步城市的象徵\n報告委員 周圍停車的空間目前大概沒有建置這樣看起來沒有建置我們可能會來盤點一下像委員剛剛建議的台塘的土地或者是其他國營事業的土地在旁邊有沒有空地有的話我們一起來協助地方政府來建置停車場\n那個部長我再跟你建議一個事情這這個在去年二月的時候已經透過交通部就是那個到現場去那個會刊了那這個議題一直留著一直留著也沒有一個具體的效果所以今天總諮詢的時候我特別提出來就是說讓你們看到了就是說地方的一個需要那地方有需要我想我們應該盡快的來想辦法這個是我對部長跟那個\n那個院長的一個那個拜託好不好因為我想一個停車場基本上來講的話當然是土地的問題土地如何去就是說去找到土地這個對我們來講是非常重要的好謝謝那接著院長那個我不知道3月8號你會不會到我們的蘭花生物園區後壁的蘭花生物園區我們的世界蘭展就是3月8號即將開幕非常歡迎就是大家\n到我們那邊來看最特別的一個蘭花那就是3月8號它即將開幕可是這個蘭花園區的一個轉型到花卉產業園區事實上它面臨到了一個很大的一個困難就是說它的時程其實在篡設花卉產業園區裡頭的時候花展中心的時候它缺人又缺錢我剛才特別跑去跟人事總處那個特別\n跟總處長要求說是不是可以給我人那當然每一個人看到他都是在要人所以就是說院長事實上這個有一個很大的困難那我也希望就是那個農業部長你把我這個四級機構三級機構的一個效能是不是可以把它就是跟院長就是還有我們台南的鄉親做一個充分的溝通\n農業部答覆一下好像就兩個階段的人事的規劃我先謝謝委員對這個蘭花產業創新園區的一個升格的支持\n那整個南華園區大概現在分兩個部分第一個部分是有關於基礎建設的部分那我們已經提報中長城公共建設有大概120公頃裡面大概68.25億那這個部分已經進到整個的國會的審查過程中我相信應該會順利那第二個部分是組織面的部分那組織面的部分\n過往南灣園區純粹只是一個產業我想我再找個時間再好好跟你溝通最後因為我的時間有限我要特別跟院長再做一個報告就是說早上你有特別喊話希望就是重新去檢視總預算接下來你打算怎麼做特別跟你提醒立法院的\n那個職權法裡頭第34條它有一個規定如果互議案互議案如果一起不決議的話就會失敗這個就會跑回來失敗\n再一次的拜託立法院能夠重新的審議整個中央政府的預算在附議的過程當中能夠給大家重新再來看看預算這樣的三法是否真的合理能夠重新面對中央政府的預算能夠支持我們\n好 謝謝 謝謝賴會員委員的諮詢謝謝卓院長及相關部會所長的備詢 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.025 --> 00:11.036\n謝謝院長有請我們的院長跟我們的經濟部部長麻煩請卓院長經濟部長備詢\n\n00:24.770 --> 00:43.541\n院長部長好我想昨天晚上川普跟台積電魏哲嘉董事長的一個會談台積電要滬美投資一千億美金便設立研發中心還有相關的信息其實都讓今天的股票\n\n00:44.261 --> 01:00.462\n也發生了一個很大的震盪其實在早上也有很多委員問到了很多在這裡我想請教院長就是說你知不知道台積電在亞利桑那州的一個投資投資了多少錢\n\n01:03.268 --> 01:23.443\n前前後後加起來會達到六百五十億美金那他要再加碼一千億我想請教就是說其實在過去四年裡頭陸續的規劃在當地就是要蓋了三座競研廠第一座他希望生產4奈米的一個晶片\n\n01:24.184 --> 01:51.697\n那預計在今年上半年就是要開始生產可是這個進度一直都是落後的所以就是說請教院長你看威澤家董事長他講了他要投資一千億的一個美金那你認為就是說在未來的四年這個進度會不會就是會延後還是說也會超前去部署呢\n\n01:53.780 --> 02:20.856\n這個產業界的對外投資啊其實政府跟他們之間都保持有密切的聯繫跟接觸有互相瞭解在亞利桑那州的投資目前第一場接近要開始量產的時候第二場還在施工中第三場根本還沒有開始所以我認為產業界一樣的它也是循序漸進依照它的資金依照它的這個時程的規劃會持續進行下去的那這個也是民主供應鏈的形成的一部分\n\n02:21.736 --> 02:39.203\n當然也配合著我們跟美國持續加強成長各種投資以及合作的必要的一個政策我想是朝這個方向在走跟留台灣壯大台灣可是到底是課了100%的關稅是比較划得來還是投資1000億的美金比較划得來\n\n02:45.970 --> 03:11.793\n我覺得產業界在這個計算方面他除了他自己之外還有很多的下游的協力廠商整個產業供應鏈他都必須要完整的下去那不只是擔心說對台積電瞌睡不瞌睡的問題跟所有的產業都要連結起來看那麼他們一定是站在對產業有利也符合國家我們國家戰略思考的這個角度上去做事那就是說再請教議員長跟部長\n\n03:12.233 --> 03:39.349\n有沒有機會就是在這一個商業談判的過程裡頭我們還可以去爭取到更多的一個利多呢這個就是讓政府跟政府之間在促成民間的合作之外政府跟之間一定是繼續的深化加分彼此的關係跟合作那很多的這個談的過程還在談的過程當然我們不便在這裡講太多但是政府的立場站在以國家最有利的方向做出發點\n\n03:40.540 --> 04:07.308\n以台灣為本向世界出發也用世界來關懷台灣這個是我們現在已經在做的一個方向好謝謝謝謝部長我還有院長我想這個台灣市就是大家的根其實大家最在乎的就是說台灣的經濟在未來的十年在未來的往後的一個歲月裡頭我們是不是可以壯大我們自己這個其實是一個非常好的一個機會我們希望是正向的去看待\n\n04:08.488 --> 04:35.900\n這個經濟上的一個轉折這個對我們來講是非常大的一個能量那也再一次就是說再跟這個院長請教全球的貿易戰即將爆發那我們從這一張圖裡頭我們可以去看到就是說美國主要的一個貿易國家的一個關稅的一個效率那我們可以從加錢的一個稅率簡單的一個稅率來看台灣的加錢平均大概是1.7%\n\n04:37.341 --> 05:06.472\n那低於美國的2.2%那簡單就是等於是講就是低於就是6.5%就是相對高於美國的3.3%這個其實我們講到的是一個稅率的一個問題到底就是說讓他就是扣我們的關稅其實是比較對我們是有利的還是說台積電他就是整體的一個輸出到美國是對我們有利的\n\n05:06.852 --> 05:33.121\n那我想這個是商業上的一個判讀那就是說院長你也講得非常的清楚那這個事實上就是說在整體而言不管是產業的一個那個逆差還是順差是不是你的看法就是說我們可不可能就是說在這個第二波的一個對等關稅的名單裡頭會延後呢是不是不會在4月2號就是去執行\n\n05:34.284 --> 05:56.045\n因為他剛上來他很兇啊兩個重點向委員來報告第一個我們一直會避免全力去避免不公平的關稅針對台灣的某一個產業或是針對我們自己我想這個避免我們會達到相當的進展如果雙方是對等的關稅那互相在對等公平的原則底下\n\n05:57.233 --> 06:18.924\n依照我國最有利的立場來做出發我們還是進行這樣的談判這是第一個第二個貿易的利差對每個國家的政府來看都是想極力去平衡的美國當然也不例外他從這個2024年這麼大的一個貿易的利差來看他當然會逐步的要去減弱他的這個貿易的利差把它平衡掉\n\n06:19.304 --> 06:37.012\n那台灣在這裡因為我們輸出很多高科技的產品這個對美國來講是需要的所以我們相對的我們多增加一些必要性的採購對台灣的產業台灣的國防等等如果是需要我們做增加一個採購也是我們毅然應該要發展的方向\n\n06:37.512 --> 07:00.528\n好院長那除了就是美國的這個貿易順差較大的半導體跟科技產業以外其實哪些產業會受到比較大的影響不管是就是我們的這個汽車產業還是農業產業尤其是我最關心的就是農業本席的選區太多的一個農業是不是可以提供書面的報告給本席謝謝應該農業的衝擊會是\n\n07:05.188 --> 07:34.461\n就關稅來看農業的衝擊會是小一點的會是小的好但是我們不會輕鬆的去面對這個情況我們還是非常嚴謹的來看待所有產業所造成的影響好那接著就是說促進經濟行政院在提出就是驚橫台灣的一個重大建設裡頭我們看到了就是針對的這六個六個那個區域的特色產業其中就是我們那個銀嘉南銀嘉南的大\n\n07:36.223 --> 07:59.384\n那個大台南科技產業這個就是要特別跟那個院長再提醒一次就是說這個大南方新矽谷其實這個科技產業在整體而言我們講了好幾次了講了好幾次了它其實連結到就是以台南的沙崙站為一個主軸那就是說延伸出去\n\n07:59.944 --> 08:21.457\n延伸出去它其實到了就是在北它是在嘉義那就是在南的話是到高雄跟屏東就獨缺了這一塊就是在我新營這個地方那當然要謝謝院長那也謝謝賴總統他特別建議了一個AI機器人的一個園區在大新營\n\n08:22.378 --> 08:36.673\n那這一個就是說製造中心製造中心是在柳科那研發中心是在六甲那就是說院長這一個這麼完整的一個計畫它的一個行程會不會延後呢\n\n08:37.663 --> 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11:43.673\n這個完全完全就是沒有政府的狀態那你甚至就是說下了火車的時候你還要怎麼你必須要就是走大概四五分鐘甚至超過五分鐘的時間去找你的車子那事實上就是說我去盤點了盤點了就是在後火車站所有就是我們不管是台塘還是台沿那個他們的一個倉庫因為裡頭只有就是說\n\n11:44.893 --> 12:10.062\n靠那個國營事業的一個那個共同的開發有沒有機會可以給我一個停車場這個停車場非常非常的重要光是你到我這個城市裡頭來看到了就是說我們的摩托車我們的腳踏車我們的汽車都是停在路兩邊然後那個延伸的一個車輪要四五分鐘我想這個不是一個進步城市的象徵\n\n12:11.851 --> 12:28.256\n報告委員周圍停車的空間目前大概沒有建置這樣看起來沒有建置我們可能會來盤點一下像委員剛剛建議的台塘的土地或者是其他國營事業的土地在旁邊有沒有空地有的話我們一起來協助地方政府來建置停車場\n\n12:29.216 --> 12:52.950\n那個部長我再跟你建議一個事情這這個在去年二月的時候已經透過交通部就是那個到現場去那個會刊了那這個議題一直留著一直留著也沒有一個具體的效果所以今天總諮詢的時候我特別提出來就是說讓你們看到了就是說地方的一個需要那地方有需要我想我們應該盡快的來想辦法這個是我對部長跟那個\n\n12:57.833 --> 13:25.555\n那個院長的一個那個拜託好不好因為我想一個停車場基本上來講的話當然是土地的問題土地如何去就是說去找到土地這個對我們來講是非常重要的好謝謝那接著院長那個我不知道3月8號你會不會到我們的蘭花生物園區後壁的蘭花生物園區我們的世界蘭展就是3月8號即將開幕非常歡迎就是大家\n\n13:26.095 --> 13:52.566\n到我們那邊來看最特別的一個蘭花那就是3月8號它即將開幕可是這個蘭花園區的一個轉型到花卉產業園區事實上它面臨到了一個很大的一個困難就是說它的時程其實在篡設花卉產業園區裡頭的時候花展中心的時候它缺人又缺錢我剛才特別跑去跟人事總處那個特別\n\n13:53.927 --> 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