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00:00:31,570\n我們預計在這個會期會提出原版這個會期一定會提出原版為什麼一定要特別提到因為公聽會是在去年5月然後你們3月可是剛剛聽到次長從頭到尾都不斷在告訴我在蒐集資料然後跟地方縣市政府還在蒐集資料我還是要提醒一下5月舉行的公聽會3月你就告訴我們要做就是你剛有特別報告了所以你們目前為止\n\n3\n00:00:52,879 --> 00:01:10,033\n聽起來就是朝基本法的方向來研議然後呢公聽會完之後吸取相關意見吧吧吧吧從去年三月到現在已經一年了顯然還在持續收集資料我們問個比較務實的你們要不要成立負責青年事務部的專責單位要不要\n\n4\n00:01:10,493 --> 00:01:38,189\n先跟委員報告一下就是我們目前部辦已經有你剛講了你們要不要成立這樣的專責單目機構目前就是人事總署是有意見的喔對這個而且你向校友教育部校的青年發展署來統籌嗎青年署署長很認真禮拜六禮拜天常常看他的身影但是你認為他有辦法來統籌嗎如果你這個單位沒有在行政各部會你覺得一個青年署或甚至教育部有辦法來要求各跨部會\n\n5\n00:01:39,570 --> 00:02:03,649\n來做這樣的一個統籌分配嗎有可能嗎我想這個關於這個未來的統籌部會是這個要有一個新的單位或者說這個其實是牽扯到政府的編制跟人員的是所以呢你的主管機會如果是不是行政院的位階的話你剛剛所提到的包括對青年的就職居住社會參與等等還有包括他們的婚姻\n\n6\n00:02:04,349 --> 00:02:22,715\n他不是一個你教育部有辦法叫得動的然後你行政院對於這樣的事物對於這樣部分他都還持一個懷疑的態度這是執政黨的優先法案以你們現在目前到現在一年了你們覺得這樣有辦法是肯積極的告訴我們你們真的可以把它當優先法案來做處理嗎\n\n7\n00:02:24,395 --> 00:02:39,017\n有可能吗目前这么多问题还是没有解决啊不要像劳动部长许明聪从上台到下台都还在持续收集资料所以我再问一次什么时候会有行政院的版本你们说这个会期一定会有对不对是\n\n8\n00:02:39,798 --> 00:02:59,440\n朝我们大家听起来这个会计会有而且里面可以调列哪一个是所谓的专责单位专责单位到底他的权责到哪里是否有没有办法调动到所谓靠不会这才是我们真正对青年基本法负责的态度好不好好我们就看看这个会期因为次长已经承诺了接下来我们来看看\n\n9\n00:03:00,541 --> 00:03:25,180\n我们来问一些教育相关议题因为次长是主管这个高教嘛那次长以前也是台大的老师所以说呢来书长请回了然后呢上台大变这件这个是台大毕业歌大家都觉得很好然后呢我们都非常尊重学生的创意但是他的歌词是告诉我们其实在显示说对于前途的茫然低薪失业尤其是文组的学生他们的就业度更窄\n\n10\n00:03:26,161 --> 00:03:39,873\n所以台灣的高教環境真的像次長覺得是這麼樣子的樂觀嗎你好好聽他們的歌詞我覺得這才是一個最大的重點為什麼我們現在的學生特別是文組社會組的學生對他們的未來有這麼大的一個失落\n\n11\n00:03:43,152 --> 00:04:05,802\n報告委員這其實有一些脈絡以台大為例台大每年這個就業博覽會很多都是科技業金融業他不是台大幾乎任何學校都是這樣我想這也是一個要可以改進的地方因為很多就業博覽會HR有時候學生一進來同學你是什麼科系的一聽到不是科技不是金融財經相關科系HR的那個\n\n12\n00:04:06,822 --> 00:04:33,987\n没错所以你看次长现在任何学校什么都要挂上一个AI连一个文组也都要挂上AI这就是一个keyword只要你有个AI就连博览会里面起码还要把你的履历稍微看一下我只是提出一个现象并没有要责怪我只是告诉既然高教是这么样的重要好我们有太多东西而且要借助你的专才可是呢我还蛮遗憾的想问一件事情在2月20号就是好不容易有召开全国的大学校长会议次长你也在场吧\n\n13\n00:04:35,107 --> 00:04:37,829\n那我是不是可以請問一下,誰主導?你是高教的,是你主導的嗎?這是高教師在規劃的那我請問一下是誰邀請邱全正主委來演講的?他是總統指示要來的?還是不請自來的?還是部長拍板來的?哪一位可以回答我這個問題?\n\n14\n00:04:52,867 --> 00:05:21,803\n全部的大学校长会议这么多高教的问题我们面对世界的竞争度我们面对整个课程的同者我们面对的社会主同学没有办法有出路我们面对我们家大学生学非所用这么多大学校长包括他们的资源的分配顶大怎么跟他私大退场机制你去找来这些人请问告诉我谁请邱学生来演讲的谁请的报告委员这是协进会校长协进会去邀请校长协进会然后你们就觉得可以找他来过来\n\n15\n00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:41,619\n那我想我們尊重校長那你覺得呢你坐在那邊聽你覺得每個校長每個人都在那邊像小學生一樣我坦白講我那天在下面聽我覺得媒體報導有點言過情語其實他是在分享一些資訊給大家並沒有以說教的意味所以我想媒體說請主委陸委會主委去對校長說教這個我覺得真的是\n\n16\n00:05:42,719 --> 00:06:07,712\n你觉得在高校校长会议这么重要的一个不管你是大拜拜嘉年华大家讨论的事情来说然后呢你却要来讨论这个思考我也觉得这样子的这个所谓的国家安全很重要可是这是国家大学校长的会议当中你坐在台下你先老实说如果排开次长的身份你觉得台下去听大学校长听这一段话你觉得这么难的机会专题演讲你觉得这样有你觉得这样合适吗\n\n17\n00:06:08,553 --> 00:06:14,439\n我想我這下面是真的很坦誠的跟委員報告我覺得裡面有一些資訊是還蠻寶貴的適合在我也同意邱先生演講我聽過那問題是大學校長會議\n\n18\n00:06:21,983 --> 00:06:43,193\n另外也跟委員報告因為我們安排給他時間也沒有很長只有30分鐘而已30分鐘還不長啊沒有啊其實那個廖俊志院長講一個小時中研院吧好不好中研院大學校長對廖俊志的問題沒有意見對他是有一些意見你要去搜尋如果你覺得在台下你也可以聽的這樣子的部分\n\n19\n00:06:44,494 --> 00:07:13,686\n这个你真的已经不太相信以前我认识的叶教授也不像是调皮的中年大叔了好不好你已经变成教育部的一个样子的人了因为我还是强调大学校长会议他的专责他的priority他对于高等教育所需要的远远高于陆委会主委应该在这边给你30分钟的时间我觉得这个是教育部应该要好好来做思考的我没有说他讲的不对但是高等全国校长会议请记住大学校长会议高教的问题比什么都重要\n\n20\n00:07:14,606 --> 00:07:37,131\n我們接下來看一下這個東西也是屬於你的存摺範圍護理系招生創新高但是註冊率卻下滑次長這是屬於高教的問題因為為什麼講護理系因為最近我們的護理荒我們最近整個的醫院所造成的部分所有行政院所有的衛婦所開出的條件就是增加我們的護理人員我們來看看\n\n21\n00:07:38,491 --> 00:07:57,696\n增加到底有没有办法真的是打到我们要的点你看看这是次长我们每一次的开出非常多的名额但是呢你看看113到现在从刚开始的93%的新生注册率到79.8逐年下降逐年下降我们再往下来看\n\n22\n00:07:58,596 --> 00:08:11,493\n然后呢护理系的招生学士班硕博士班四季等等的这一步开了这么多完全是在开源但是次长你了解现在目前我们正在第一线的护理人员是来自于哪个系统的\n\n23\n00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:38,873\n是來自哪一個系統護理系護專都有護理系有嗎護理系的到底有多少護理系考到台大護理系的考到成大護理系的你去看看出來站在第一線上面急診室上面他們通常就會選擇往碩博士班甚至去當老師這是大學部的部分可是你現在還是增開名額喔還是增開名額真正的中流砥柱是哪裡\n\n24\n00:08:39,634 --> 00:08:55,346\n真的就是目前医疗院所的护理的骨干就是我们技职系统大概是科大五专家二级特别是五专家二级但是呢你们开的名额大学每个人都在希望能够增开一些的名额可是你对护理系的名额这个部分\n\n25\n00:08:55,706 --> 00:09:17,503\n你有沒有想辦法要去做調控我覺得這才是一個很大的點重點是我還是要請教育部跟行政院表達不斷的告訴我們要解決這個我們護理人員的問題就是增開讓我們的門檻降低讓我們可以讓更多學生開更多的班讓我們可以廣收但是我告訴你如果環境不改變學校環境不改變你開太多的班再開更多的人沒有人要來練就是沒來練你開那麼多班有什麼用\n\n26\n00:09:19,554 --> 00:09:39,312\n這完全認同這個委員所說所以我們在像資源在開會在跟衛福部跟衛福部像這個周志浩周次長我們都有在談這個事情就是說其實真的關鍵是這個護理環境是不是友善職場是不是讓大家畢業之後願意留在這個地方工作這會影響到未來的學生報考的意願沒有錯所以說次長\n\n27\n00:09:39,992 --> 00:09:41,633\n请不吝点赞订阅转发打赏支持明镜与点点栏目\n\n28\n00:10:10,032 --> 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因為最近我們的護理荒我們最近整個的醫院所造成的部分所有行政院所有的衛婦所開出的條件就是增加我們的護理人員我們來看看\n458491\t477696\t增加到底有没有办法真的是打到我们要的点你看看这是次长我们每一次的开出非常多的名额但是呢你看看113到现在从刚开始的93%的新生注册率到79.8逐年下降逐年下降我们再往下来看\n478596\t491493\t然后呢护理系的招生学士班硕博士班四季等等的这一步开了这么多完全是在开源但是次长你了解现在目前我们正在第一线的护理人员是来自于哪个系统的\n492270\t518873\t是來自哪一個系統護理系護專都有護理系有嗎護理系的到底有多少護理系考到台大護理系的考到成大護理系的你去看看出來站在第一線上面急診室上面他們通常就會選擇往碩博士班甚至去當老師這是大學部的部分可是你現在還是增開名額喔還是增開名額真正的中流砥柱是哪裡\n519634\t535346\t真的就是目前医疗院所的护理的骨干就是我们技职系统大概是科大五专家二级特别是五专家二级但是呢你们开的名额大学每个人都在希望能够增开一些的名额可是你对护理系的名额这个部分\n535706\t557503\t你有沒有想辦法要去做調控我覺得這才是一個很大的點重點是我還是要請教育部跟行政院表達不斷的告訴我們要解決這個我們護理人員的問題就是增開讓我們的門檻降低讓我們可以讓更多學生開更多的班讓我們可以廣收但是我告訴你如果環境不改變學校環境不改變你開太多的班再開更多的人沒有人要來練就是沒來練你開那麼多班有什麼用\n559554\t579312\t這完全認同這個委員所說所以我們在像資源在開會在跟衛福部跟衛福部像這個周志浩周次長我們都有在談這個事情就是說其實真的關鍵是這個護理環境是不是友善職場是不是讓大家畢業之後願意留在這個地方工作這會影響到未來的學生報考的意願沒有錯所以說次長\n579992\t581633\t请不吝点赞 订阅 转发 打赏支持明镜与点点栏目\n610032\t614660\t即使三十分钟都可以讨论一个所以然来谢谢\n","txt":"请问行政院的态度,你们是不是要提院板?\n我們預計在這個會期會提出原版這個會期一定會提出原版為什麼一定要特別提到因為公聽會是在去年5月然後你們3月可是剛剛聽到次長從頭到尾都不斷在告訴我在蒐集資料然後跟地方縣市政府還在蒐集資料我還是要提醒一下5月舉行的公聽會3月你就告訴我們要做就是你剛有特別報告了所以你們目前為止\n聽起來就是朝基本法的方向來研議然後呢公聽會完之後吸取相關意見吧吧吧吧從去年三月到現在已經一年了顯然還在持續收集資料我們問個比較務實的你們要不要成立負責青年事務部的專責單位要不要\n先跟委員報告一下就是我們目前部辦已經有你剛講了你們要不要成立這樣的專責單目機構目前就是人事總署是有意見的喔對這個而且你向校友教育部校的青年發展署來統籌嗎青年署署長很認真禮拜六禮拜天常常看他的身影但是你認為他有辦法來統籌嗎如果你這個單位沒有在行政各部會你覺得一個青年署或甚至教育部有辦法來要求各跨部會\n來做這樣的一個統籌分配嗎有可能嗎我想這個關於這個未來的統籌部會是這個要有一個新的單位或者說這個其實是牽扯到政府的編制跟人員的是所以呢你的主管機會如果是不是行政院的位階的話你剛剛所提到的包括對青年的就職居住社會參與等等還有包括他們的婚姻\n他不是一個你教育部有辦法叫得動的然後你行政院對於這樣的事物對於這樣部分他都還持一個懷疑的態度這是執政黨的優先法案以你們現在目前到現在一年了你們覺得這樣有辦法是肯積極的告訴我們你們真的可以把它當優先法案來做處理嗎\n有可能吗目前这么多问题还是没有解决啊不要像劳动部长许明聪从上台到下台都还在持续收集资料所以我再问一次什么时候会有行政院的版本你们说这个会期一定会有对不对是\n朝我们大家听起来这个会计会有而且里面可以调列哪一个是所谓的专责单位专责单位到底他的权责到哪里是否有没有办法调动到所谓靠不会这才是我们真正对青年基本法负责的态度好不好好我们就看看这个会期因为次长已经承诺了接下来我们来看看\n我们来问一些教育相关议题因为次长是主管这个高教嘛那次长以前也是台大的老师所以说呢来书长请回了然后呢上台大变这件这个是台大毕业歌大家都觉得很好然后呢我们都非常尊重学生的创意但是他的歌词是告诉我们其实在显示说对于前途的茫然低薪失业尤其是文组的学生他们的就业度更窄\n所以台灣的高教環境真的像次長覺得是這麼樣子的樂觀嗎你好好聽他們的歌詞我覺得這才是一個最大的重點為什麼我們現在的學生特別是文組社會組的學生對他們的未來有這麼大的一個失落\n報告委員這其實有一些脈絡以台大為例台大每年這個就業博覽會很多都是科技業金融業他不是台大幾乎任何學校都是這樣我想這也是一個要可以改進的地方因為很多就業博覽會HR有時候學生一進來同學你是什麼科系的一聽到不是科技不是金融財經相關科系HR的那個\n没错所以你看次长现在任何学校什么都要挂上一个AI连一个文组也都要挂上AI这就是一个key word只要你有个AI就连博览会里面起码还要把你的履历稍微看一下我只是提出一个现象并没有要责怪我只是告诉既然高教是这么样的重要好我们有太多东西而且要借助你的专才可是呢我还蛮遗憾的想问一件事情在2月20号就是好不容易有召开全国的大学校长会议次长你也在场吧\n那我是不是可以請問一下,誰主導?你是高教的,是你主導的嗎?這是高教師在規劃的那我請問一下是誰邀請邱全正主委來演講的?他是總統指示要來的?還是不請自來的?還是部長拍板來的?哪一位可以回答我這個問題?\n全部的大学校长会议这么多高教的问题我们面对世界的竞争度我们面对整个课程的同者我们面对的社会主同学没有办法有出路我们面对我们家大学生学非所用这么多大学校长包括他们的资源的分配顶大怎么跟他私大退场机制你去找来这些人请问告诉我谁请邱学生来演讲的谁请的报告委员这是协进会校长协进会去邀请校长协进会然后你们就觉得可以找他来过来\n那我想我們尊重校長那你覺得呢你坐在那邊聽你覺得每個校長每個人都在那邊像小學生一樣我坦白講我那天在下面聽我覺得媒體報導有點言過情語其實他是在分享一些資訊給大家並沒有以說教的意味所以我想媒體說請主委 陸委會主委去對校長說教這個我覺得真的是\n你觉得在高校校长会议这么重要的一个不管你是大拜拜嘉年华大家讨论的事情来说然后呢你却要来讨论这个思考我也觉得这样子的这个所谓的国家安全很重要可是这是国家大学校长的会议当中你坐在台下你先老实说如果排开次长的身份你觉得台下去听大学校长听这一段话你觉得这么难的机会专题演讲你觉得这样有你觉得这样合适吗\n我想我這下面是真的很坦誠的跟委員報告我覺得裡面有一些資訊是還蠻寶貴的適合在我也同意邱先生演講我聽過那問題是大學校長會議\n另外也跟委員報告 因為我們安排給他時間也沒有很長 只有30分鐘而已30分鐘還不長啊沒有啊 其實那個廖俊志院長講一個小時中研院吧好不好 中研院大學校長對廖俊志的問題沒有意見 對他是有一些意見你要去搜尋 如果你覺得在台下你也可以聽的這樣子的部分\n这个你真的已经不太相信以前我认识的叶教授也不像是调皮的中年大叔了好不好你已经变成教育部的一个样子的人了因为我还是强调大学校长会议他的专责他的priority他对于高等教育所需要的远远高于陆委会主委应该在这边给你30分钟的时间我觉得这个是教育部应该要好好来做思考的我没有说他讲的不对但是高等全国校长会议请记住大学校长会议高教的问题比什么都重要\n我們接下來看一下 這個東西也是屬於你的存摺範圍護理系招生創新高 但是註冊率卻下滑次長 這是屬於高教的問題因為為什麼講護理系 因為最近我們的護理荒我們最近整個的醫院所造成的部分所有行政院所有的衛婦所開出的條件就是增加我們的護理人員我們來看看\n增加到底有没有办法真的是打到我们要的点你看看这是次长我们每一次的开出非常多的名额但是呢你看看113到现在从刚开始的93%的新生注册率到79.8逐年下降逐年下降我们再往下来看\n然后呢护理系的招生学士班硕博士班四季等等的这一步开了这么多完全是在开源但是次长你了解现在目前我们正在第一线的护理人员是来自于哪个系统的\n是來自哪一個系統護理系護專都有護理系有嗎護理系的到底有多少護理系考到台大護理系的考到成大護理系的你去看看出來站在第一線上面急診室上面他們通常就會選擇往碩博士班甚至去當老師這是大學部的部分可是你現在還是增開名額喔還是增開名額真正的中流砥柱是哪裡\n真的就是目前医疗院所的护理的骨干就是我们技职系统大概是科大五专家二级特别是五专家二级但是呢你们开的名额大学每个人都在希望能够增开一些的名额可是你对护理系的名额这个部分\n你有沒有想辦法要去做調控我覺得這才是一個很大的點重點是我還是要請教育部跟行政院表達不斷的告訴我們要解決這個我們護理人員的問題就是增開讓我們的門檻降低讓我們可以讓更多學生開更多的班讓我們可以廣收但是我告訴你如果環境不改變學校環境不改變你開太多的班再開更多的人沒有人要來練就是沒來練你開那麼多班有什麼用\n這完全認同這個委員所說所以我們在像資源在開會在跟衛福部跟衛福部像這個周志浩周次長我們都有在談這個事情就是說其實真的關鍵是這個護理環境是不是友善職場是不是讓大家畢業之後願意留在這個地方工作這會影響到未來的學生報考的意願沒有錯所以說次長\n请不吝点赞 订阅 转发 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20 人擬具「青年基本法草案」案；十七、審查委員林德福等 20 人擬具\n「青年發展基本法草案」案；十八、審查委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「青年基本法草案」案 (僅進行\n詢答)","agenda_id":"1142601_00009"}}}