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00:01:08,747\n生理用品這些很多都是我們青資會共同研議然後也跟我們的行政部門討論的成果所以你們一定要務必加強溝通讓更多的委員一起來支持我們的青年工作好不好好那接下來呢我所擔心的是我們仍然要去面對現實的情況因為呢\n\n5\n00:01:14,588 --> 00:01:18,709\n上個預算會期立法院送出了是大幅刪減的這個最後的結果那昨天行政院提出復議包括了總預算案以及裁劃法那立法院再次的維持原決議那所以呢我看到我們主計長在備詢的時候他有進行說明他說呢他擔心的是這個有期裁劃法\n\n6\n00:01:44,153 --> 00:01:49,637\n裁划法在原先如果按照原先的數字中央會被拿走3753億那因為在這個裁划法立法院通過的時候並沒有指定說這個事權怎麼樣來區分所以如果按照平均來講少3723億如果平均分配每一個部會可能每一個部會要去減少的是28%的比例那麼主席\n\n7\n00:02:12,473 --> 00:02:38,166\n想講說因為國防預算對我們國家非常重要所以假設扣除國防預算的話哇那每個部會平均會遇到的衝擊可能要減少的是近38%的比例我看到教育部在去年12月的時候也發布一個新聞稿希望跟國人說明若才化法通過對教育部會有什麼樣的衝擊所以我現在想要請問次長如果說現在才化法\n\n8\n00:02:38,886 --> 00:02:47,678\n已經沒有如果了他已經通過了對教育部以預算來講目前預計會衝擊到數字是大約是多少有沒有開始評估了\n\n9\n00:02:48,191 --> 00:03:02,138\n我想現在差不多已經我們也開始在朝你明年度的預算但是目前因為就是整個預算的狀況非常不明朗我不知道114年的預算到底是怎麼樣打定案我們114年交易部遠列預算是3623億如果說以28%來計算的話會減少的是1014億如果以37%來計算的話會減少的是1340億\n\n10\n00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:21,089\n哇這個是非常高的比例所以我比較擔心的是因為市長您剛剛前面被選的時候也有提到採劃法未來從中央撿了這麼多錢那要撥到地方對青年工作有可能會不會有哪些是受到衝擊的呢\n\n11\n00:03:30,618 --> 00:03:53,177\n我想如果整體的教育部的預算受到影響的話那我想這個是很有可能其實包括好幾個面向的因為這個財務法通過之後因為整個包括財務法其中有一條本來是這個中央常態性補助的這些錢一毛錢都不能少還是要中央出所以整個中央預算裡面要給地方政府的這個錢其實\n\n12\n00:03:55,499 --> 00:04:11,420\n還有相當一大塊是沒有辦法就是3700億其實還有很多的這個一個空缺是要從跟地方無關的事務的預算要從這邊扣除的那這其實會我想這對教育部未來我們是擔心他會有相當大的影響\n\n13\n00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,822\n對是所以這個都要進行很謹慎的來評估那因為我們今天審議青年基本法其實就希望可以制定一個新的法律但當我們在制定新的法律的時候裡面也有新的對青年的定義也有新的對青年工作的範圍\n\n14\n00:04:29,679 --> 00:04:34,301\n然後以及我們希望他可以橫跨各個部會也就是說他有可能會牽涉到我們行政業務的增加那業務的增加他當然必須要預算的支持所以這一點我也必須要拜託我們立法院所有的同仁倘若我們是支持青年基本法我們支持認為政府應該來當青年的後盾的話我們給法\n\n15\n00:04:51,286 --> 00:05:00,316\n也要給預算的支持才能夠讓這個工作能夠確實的來執行那我們青年基本法當然已經等待很久而且刻不容緩剛剛次長有提到說一個月內會抱怨對不對這個是可以承諾的好\n\n16\n00:05:06,283 --> 00:05:10,529\n暴行政院一個月內是暴行政院那我們立法院我們期待的是這個會期要能夠來三讀通過所以我想請問次長目前你們在跟立法院的委員溝通當中有遇到什麼困難嗎\n\n17\n00:05:23,893 --> 00:05:46,610\n我想目前都還好那行政院在這個案子也是都相當關心所以你們內部行政院內部加速來討論在立法院我們也希望你們可以加強溝通我們希望可以在這個會期能夠來把它三讀通過那在青年基本法當中呢我們很關注的是在法律上面我們目前定義主管機關就是教育部這件事很重要為什麼\n\n18\n00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:53,232\n因為呢過去七年的工作全部都壓在我們清發署身上而清發署的預算今年19億這個在我們中央政府總預算的是千分之六是你們教育部三個署裡面最低的這是很低很低的預算但是呢也已經比去年多了兩倍之多\n\n19\n00:06:05,077 --> 00:06:33,882\n去年的預算甚至是7.4億那因為今年我們是新增了百億青年圓蒙基金所以讓青發署的預算增加了讓我們業務能夠去推動所以呢未來青年基本法就是要讓我們的政府各個部會那現在教育部是主責啦但是你們來籌設嘛跟其他部會來討論我們希望未來我們政府在這個行政的編列還有這個預算上面都要來給予青年更多的支持因為\n\n20\n00:06:34,702 --> 00:06:50,118\n青年基本法不只是一個口號我們有提到要做青年的主流化就是我們希望政府要定期的來評估過去我們做了什麼主流化性別主流化嘛已經推動了20年所以各個部會都是定期的都有\n\n21\n00:06:50,518 --> 00:07:06,835\n性平的統計然後相關的研究報告來看看我們有沒有什麼樣的政策推動是對性平有可能造成不利的影響所以我們也希望未來各個部會都要有能力能夠來自行也就是我們推動的政策第一個對青年發展是否有利第二個對青年發展是否會造成不利的影響\n\n22\n00:07:10,419 --> 00:07:14,423\n這應該要有一個比較客觀性的並且長期追蹤的這個調研的資料報告再來是青年的公共參與這一點我相信市長也認為相當的重要所以我們希望未來這個在我們的政策制定當中每一個青年的政策都能夠有青年的聲音\n\n23\n00:07:28,995 --> 00:07:50,983\n這也是我們看韓國的青年基本法給我們最大的啟發然後也是我們非常多青年團體很大的期待那最後我想要請問的是在我們的這個青年工作當中其實過去很多是以學校為單位但我們現在看到很多是全國例如說跨校的社團跨校的組織甚至他是以協助青年為主軸的社團法人未來我們的青年基本法當中能不能來給予這些團體支持\n\n24\n00:07:58,346 --> 00:08:20,595\n我想這個在我們現在就已經有給他們支持啊未來當然會持續給他們支持是好我想這一點是非常重要的對整個新年發展工作是希望我們可以再繼續的加強努力最後要講的是制服地圖事件這個事件現在他已經有報案所以呢監警也已經介入調查那事實上我們國教署\n\n25\n00:08:22,213 --> 00:08:43,789\n依據性評法應該是也可以來去協助倘若他是在校生他是性騷擾性霸凌事件疑似的受害者學校都可以依法來協助調查處理也可以協助當事人必要的協助這包括了與警察局或者他假設涉及到性影像處理的話\n\n26\n00:08:44,289 --> 00:08:46,210\n是能夠來進行通報跟橫向聯繫的這一個我們國教署未來能不能來有類似事件的話能不能來加強輔導學校要主動的來提供協助\n\n27\n00:08:57,369 --> 00:09:22,312\n那跟委員報告我更正一下因為委員有提及怎麼協助那我們其實在3月10號的時候已經發文給各縣市政府提醒這件事情那因為部裡面在去年3月有發布一個指引那我們提醒縣市除了依照指引之外我們其實還有兒少權法還有性剝削法等等裡面都有一些輔導措施那我們自己本身也有輔導相關的措施都引導他們還有性別平等教育的\n\n28\n00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:39,690\n部分也都一併的提醒他們要來做處理那最後如果說有一些被害的事項來講的話就會依照聯繫警察局還有一些性影像處理中心橫向下架等等的這些事項都有一併提醒以上你們有提醒各縣市政府要來\n\n29\n00:09:40,931 --> 00:09:43,313\n提醒學校要來處理那你們知不知道他們協助的結果有沒有手邊有沒有掌握資訊因為我們是3月10號才發文這個是先前就已經有相關的指引那目前是針對這個個案我們再次的發文提醒學校好的那我請你們後續要\n\n30\n00:10:00,087 --> 00:10:22,901\n陸續追蹤好不好因為這次我們看到的是很多的學生他有些因為他已經不高中生他可能已經畢業念大學了但看到念高中的制服照片怎麼也在網站上面很多學生還是很害怕那第一時間可能不知道要如何來求救跟求助這點我們希望學校應該要因新評教育法來主動提供協助好不好好的謝謝主席謝謝市長\n\n31\n00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:43,428\n好謝謝市長請回謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢在休息之前跟大家宣告一下說明一下我們在我們群憲樓後面那幅畫是我們文化部提供的是我們台灣本土的年輕藝術家謝宇儒他的畫作那我們現在每一個會期都會提供新的畫作展覽在我們的後方\n\n32\n00:10:51,511 --> 00:11:04,143\n這是我們全部委員會只有我們教文委員會獨一無二的所以我們在群賢101有這樣的一個福氣可以慶長到我們台灣本土藝術家的畫作跟大家報告一下好我們休息十分鐘\n\n33\n00:11:57,056 --> 00:11:57,076\n醬汁\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n209\t3131\t我請教育部葉秉成次長有請葉次長次長好我剛剛在前面有提到說我們親資會\n14676\t31657\t在2016年的時候曾經被國民黨批評為說是黑機關是肥貓那剛剛前面我也聽到我們林沛翔委員似乎對於親自會的運作不是那麼的熟悉了解所以我希望教育部尤其你們身為首長很重要的工作是加強溝通是\n32918\t37099\t因為我們長期在觀察青資會我認為青資會過去提出了非常多很好的政策的建議那也給予我們的部會後續來執行對我們青年有很大的幫助例如我們的心理健康支持方案例如我們社會創新方案例如我們在校園裡面開始免費提供\n52703\t68747\t生理用品這些很多都是我們青資會共同研議然後也跟我們的行政部門討論的成果所以你們一定要務必加強溝通讓更多的委員一起來支持我們的青年工作好不好好那接下來呢我所擔心的是我們仍然要去面對現實的情況因為呢\n74588\t78709\t上個預算會期立法院送出了是大幅刪減的這個最後的結果那昨天行政院提出復議包括了總預算案以及裁劃法那立法院再次的維持原決議那所以呢我看到我們主計長在備詢的時候他有進行說明他說呢他擔心的是這個有期裁劃法\n104153\t109637\t裁划法在原先如果按照原先的數字中央會被拿走3753億那因為在這個裁划法立法院通過的時候並沒有指定說這個事權怎麼樣來區分所以如果按照平均來講少3723億如果平均分配每一個部會可能每一個部會要去減少的是28%的比例那麼主席\n132473\t158166\t想講說因為國防預算對我們國家非常重要所以假設扣除國防預算的話哇 那每個部會平均會遇到的衝擊可能要減少的是近38%的比例我看到教育部在去年12月的時候也發布一個新聞稿希望跟國人說明若才化法通過對教育部會有什麼樣的衝擊所以我現在想要請問次長如果說現在才化法\n158886\t167678\t已經沒有如果了他已經通過了對教育部以預算來講目前預計會衝擊到數字是大約是多少有沒有開始評估了\n168191\t182138\t我想現在差不多已經我們也開始在朝你明年度的預算但是目前因為就是整個預算的狀況非常不明朗我不知道114年的預算到底是怎麼樣打定案我們114年交易部遠列預算是3623億如果說以28%來計算的話會減少的是1014億如果以37%來計算的話會減少的是1340億\n195905\t201089\t哇 這個是非常高的比例所以我比較擔心的是因為市長您剛剛前面被選的時候也有提到採劃法未來從中央撿了這麼多錢那要撥到地方對青年工作有可能會不會有哪些是受到衝擊的呢\n210618\t233177\t我想如果整體的教育部的預算受到影響的話那我想這個是很有可能其實包括好幾個面向的因為這個財務法通過之後因為整個包括財務法其中有一條本來是這個中央常態性補助的這些錢一毛錢都不能少還是要中央出所以整個中央預算裡面要給地方政府的這個錢其實\n235499\t251420\t還有相當一大塊是沒有辦法就是3700億其實還有很多的這個一個空缺是要從跟地方無關的事務的預算要從這邊扣除的那這其實會我想這對教育部未來我們是擔心他會有相當大的影響\n251800\t253822\t對 是 所以這個都要進行很謹慎的來評估那因為我們今天審議青年基本法其實就希望可以制定一個新的法律但當我們在制定新的法律的時候裡面也有新的對青年的定義也有新的對青年工作的範圍\n269679\t274301\t然後以及我們希望他可以橫跨各個部會也就是說他有可能會牽涉到我們行政業務的增加那業務的增加他當然必須要預算的支持所以這一點我也必須要拜託我們立法院所有的同仁倘若我們是支持青年基本法我們支持認為政府應該來當青年的後盾的話我們給法\n291286\t300316\t也要給預算的支持才能夠讓這個工作能夠確實的來執行那我們青年基本法當然已經等待很久而且刻不容緩剛剛次長有提到說一個月內會抱怨對不對這個是可以承諾的好\n306283\t310529\t暴行政院一個月內是暴行政院那我們立法院我們期待的是這個會期要能夠來三讀通過所以我想請問次長目前你們在跟立法院的委員溝通當中有遇到什麼困難嗎\n323893\t346610\t我想目前都還好那行政院在這個案子也是都相當關心所以你們內部 行政院內部加速來討論在立法院我們也希望你們可以加強溝通我們希望可以在這個會期能夠來把它三讀通過那在青年基本法當中呢我們很關注的是在法律上面我們目前定義主管機關就是教育部這件事很重要 為什麼\n347310\t353232\t因為呢過去七年的工作全部都壓在我們清發署身上而清發署的預算今年19億這個在我們中央政府總預算的是千分之六是你們教育部三個署裡面最低的這是很低很低的預算但是呢也已經比去年多了兩倍之多\n365077\t393882\t去年的預算甚至是7.4億那因為今年我們是新增了百億青年圓蒙基金所以讓青發署的預算增加了讓我們業務能夠去推動所以呢未來青年基本法就是要讓我們的政府各個部會那現在教育部是主責啦但是你們來籌設嘛跟其他部會來討論我們希望未來我們政府在這個行政的編列還有這個預算上面都要來給予青年更多的支持因為\n394702\t410118\t青年基本法不只是一個口號我們有提到要做青年的主流化就是我們希望政府要定期的來評估過去我們做了什麼主流化性別主流化嘛已經推動了20年所以各個部會都是定期的都有\n410518\t426835\t性平的統計然後相關的研究報告來看看我們有沒有什麼樣的政策推動是對性平有可能造成不利的影響所以我們也希望未來各個部會都要有能力能夠來自行也就是我們推動的政策第一個對青年發展是否有利第二個對青年發展是否會造成不利的影響\n430419\t434423\t這應該要有一個比較客觀性的並且長期追蹤的這個調研的資料報告再來是青年的公共參與這一點我相信市長也認為相當的重要所以我們希望未來這個在我們的政策制定當中每一個青年的政策都能夠有青年的聲音\n448995\t470983\t這也是我們看韓國的青年基本法給我們最大的啟發然後也是我們非常多青年團體很大的期待那最後我想要請問的是在我們的這個青年工作當中其實過去很多是以學校為單位但我們現在看到很多是全國例如說跨校的社團跨校的組織甚至他是以協助青年為主軸的社團法人未來我們的青年基本法當中能不能來給予這些團體支持\n478346\t500595\t我想這個在我們現在就已經有給他們支持啊未來當然會持續給他們支持是好我想這一點是非常重要的對整個新年發展工作是希望我們可以再繼續的加強努力最後要講的是制服地圖事件這個事件現在他已經有報案所以呢監警也已經介入調查那事實上我們國教署\n502213\t523789\t依據性評法應該是也可以來去協助 倘若他是在校生他是性騷擾性霸凌事件疑似的受害者學校都可以依法來協助調查處理也可以協助當事人必要的協助這包括了與警察局或者他假設涉及到性影像處理的話\n524289\t526210\t是能夠來進行通報跟橫向聯繫的這一個我們國教署未來能不能來有類似事件的話能不能來加強輔導學校要主動的來提供協助\n537369\t562312\t那跟委員報告我更正一下因為委員有提及怎麼協助那我們其實在3月10號的時候已經發文給各縣市政府提醒這件事情那因為部裡面在去年3月有發布一個指引那我們提醒縣市除了依照指引之外我們其實還有兒少權法還有性剝削法等等裡面都有一些輔導措施那我們自己本身也有輔導相關的措施都引導他們還有性別平等教育的\n562692\t579690\t部分也都一併的提醒他們要來做處理那最後如果說有一些被害的事項來講的話就會依照聯繫警察局還有一些性影像處理中心橫向下架等等的這些事項都有一併提醒以上你們有提醒各縣市政府要來\n580931\t583313\t提醒學校要來處理那你們知不知道他們協助的結果有沒有手邊有沒有掌握資訊因為我們是3月10號才發文這個是先前就已經有相關的指引那目前是針對這個個案我們再次的發文提醒學校好的那我請你們後續要\n600087\t622901\t陸續追蹤好不好因為這次我們看到的是很多的學生他有些因為他已經不高中生他可能已經畢業念大學了但看到念高中的制服照片怎麼也在網站上面很多學生還是很害怕那第一時間可能不知道要如何來求救跟求助這點我們希望學校應該要因新評教育法來主動提供協助好不好好的謝謝主席謝謝市長\n625080\t643428\t好 謝謝市長請回 謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢在休息之前跟大家宣告一下說明一下我們在我們群憲樓後面那幅畫是我們文化部提供的是我們台灣本土的年輕藝術家謝宇儒他的畫作那我們現在每一個會期都會提供新的畫作展覽在我們的後方\n651511\t664143\t這是我們全部委員會 只有我們教文委員會獨一無二的所以我們在群賢101有這樣的一個福氣可以慶長到我們台灣本土藝術家的畫作跟大家報告一下 好 我們休息十分鐘\n687022\t714428\t謝謝謝謝\n717056\t717076\t醬汁\n","txt":"我請教育部葉秉成次長有請葉次長次長好我剛剛在前面有提到說我們親資會\n在2016年的時候曾經被國民黨批評為說是黑機關是肥貓那剛剛前面我也聽到我們林沛翔委員似乎對於親自會的運作不是那麼的熟悉了解所以我希望教育部尤其你們身為首長很重要的工作是加強溝通是\n因為我們長期在觀察青資會我認為青資會過去提出了非常多很好的政策的建議那也給予我們的部會後續來執行對我們青年有很大的幫助例如我們的心理健康支持方案例如我們社會創新方案例如我們在校園裡面開始免費提供\n生理用品這些很多都是我們青資會共同研議然後也跟我們的行政部門討論的成果所以你們一定要務必加強溝通讓更多的委員一起來支持我們的青年工作好不好好那接下來呢我所擔心的是我們仍然要去面對現實的情況因為呢\n上個預算會期立法院送出了是大幅刪減的這個最後的結果那昨天行政院提出復議包括了總預算案以及裁劃法那立法院再次的維持原決議那所以呢我看到我們主計長在備詢的時候他有進行說明他說呢他擔心的是這個有期裁劃法\n裁划法在原先如果按照原先的數字中央會被拿走3753億那因為在這個裁划法立法院通過的時候並沒有指定說這個事權怎麼樣來區分所以如果按照平均來講少3723億如果平均分配每一個部會可能每一個部會要去減少的是28%的比例那麼主席\n想講說因為國防預算對我們國家非常重要所以假設扣除國防預算的話哇 那每個部會平均會遇到的衝擊可能要減少的是近38%的比例我看到教育部在去年12月的時候也發布一個新聞稿希望跟國人說明若才化法通過對教育部會有什麼樣的衝擊所以我現在想要請問次長如果說現在才化法\n已經沒有如果了他已經通過了對教育部以預算來講目前預計會衝擊到數字是大約是多少有沒有開始評估了\n我想現在差不多已經我們也開始在朝你明年度的預算但是目前因為就是整個預算的狀況非常不明朗我不知道114年的預算到底是怎麼樣打定案我們114年交易部遠列預算是3623億如果說以28%來計算的話會減少的是1014億如果以37%來計算的話會減少的是1340億\n哇 這個是非常高的比例所以我比較擔心的是因為市長您剛剛前面被選的時候也有提到採劃法未來從中央撿了這麼多錢那要撥到地方對青年工作有可能會不會有哪些是受到衝擊的呢\n我想如果整體的教育部的預算受到影響的話那我想這個是很有可能其實包括好幾個面向的因為這個財務法通過之後因為整個包括財務法其中有一條本來是這個中央常態性補助的這些錢一毛錢都不能少還是要中央出所以整個中央預算裡面要給地方政府的這個錢其實\n還有相當一大塊是沒有辦法就是3700億其實還有很多的這個一個空缺是要從跟地方無關的事務的預算要從這邊扣除的那這其實會我想這對教育部未來我們是擔心他會有相當大的影響\n對 是 所以這個都要進行很謹慎的來評估那因為我們今天審議青年基本法其實就希望可以制定一個新的法律但當我們在制定新的法律的時候裡面也有新的對青年的定義也有新的對青年工作的範圍\n然後以及我們希望他可以橫跨各個部會也就是說他有可能會牽涉到我們行政業務的增加那業務的增加他當然必須要預算的支持所以這一點我也必須要拜託我們立法院所有的同仁倘若我們是支持青年基本法我們支持認為政府應該來當青年的後盾的話我們給法\n也要給預算的支持才能夠讓這個工作能夠確實的來執行那我們青年基本法當然已經等待很久而且刻不容緩剛剛次長有提到說一個月內會抱怨對不對這個是可以承諾的好\n暴行政院一個月內是暴行政院那我們立法院我們期待的是這個會期要能夠來三讀通過所以我想請問次長目前你們在跟立法院的委員溝通當中有遇到什麼困難嗎\n我想目前都還好那行政院在這個案子也是都相當關心所以你們內部 行政院內部加速來討論在立法院我們也希望你們可以加強溝通我們希望可以在這個會期能夠來把它三讀通過那在青年基本法當中呢我們很關注的是在法律上面我們目前定義主管機關就是教育部這件事很重要 為什麼\n因為呢過去七年的工作全部都壓在我們清發署身上而清發署的預算今年19億這個在我們中央政府總預算的是千分之六是你們教育部三個署裡面最低的這是很低很低的預算但是呢也已經比去年多了兩倍之多\n去年的預算甚至是7.4億那因為今年我們是新增了百億青年圓蒙基金所以讓青發署的預算增加了讓我們業務能夠去推動所以呢未來青年基本法就是要讓我們的政府各個部會那現在教育部是主責啦但是你們來籌設嘛跟其他部會來討論我們希望未來我們政府在這個行政的編列還有這個預算上面都要來給予青年更多的支持因為\n青年基本法不只是一個口號我們有提到要做青年的主流化就是我們希望政府要定期的來評估過去我們做了什麼主流化性別主流化嘛已經推動了20年所以各個部會都是定期的都有\n性平的統計然後相關的研究報告來看看我們有沒有什麼樣的政策推動是對性平有可能造成不利的影響所以我們也希望未來各個部會都要有能力能夠來自行也就是我們推動的政策第一個對青年發展是否有利第二個對青年發展是否會造成不利的影響\n這應該要有一個比較客觀性的並且長期追蹤的這個調研的資料報告再來是青年的公共參與這一點我相信市長也認為相當的重要所以我們希望未來這個在我們的政策制定當中每一個青年的政策都能夠有青年的聲音\n這也是我們看韓國的青年基本法給我們最大的啟發然後也是我們非常多青年團體很大的期待那最後我想要請問的是在我們的這個青年工作當中其實過去很多是以學校為單位但我們現在看到很多是全國例如說跨校的社團跨校的組織甚至他是以協助青年為主軸的社團法人未來我們的青年基本法當中能不能來給予這些團體支持\n我想這個在我們現在就已經有給他們支持啊未來當然會持續給他們支持是好我想這一點是非常重要的對整個新年發展工作是希望我們可以再繼續的加強努力最後要講的是制服地圖事件這個事件現在他已經有報案所以呢監警也已經介入調查那事實上我們國教署\n依據性評法應該是也可以來去協助 倘若他是在校生他是性騷擾性霸凌事件疑似的受害者學校都可以依法來協助調查處理也可以協助當事人必要的協助這包括了與警察局或者他假設涉及到性影像處理的話\n是能夠來進行通報跟橫向聯繫的這一個我們國教署未來能不能來有類似事件的話能不能來加強輔導學校要主動的來提供協助\n那跟委員報告我更正一下因為委員有提及怎麼協助那我們其實在3月10號的時候已經發文給各縣市政府提醒這件事情那因為部裡面在去年3月有發布一個指引那我們提醒縣市除了依照指引之外我們其實還有兒少權法還有性剝削法等等裡面都有一些輔導措施那我們自己本身也有輔導相關的措施都引導他們還有性別平等教育的\n部分也都一併的提醒他們要來做處理那最後如果說有一些被害的事項來講的話就會依照聯繫警察局還有一些性影像處理中心橫向下架等等的這些事項都有一併提醒以上你們有提醒各縣市政府要來\n提醒學校要來處理那你們知不知道他們協助的結果有沒有手邊有沒有掌握資訊因為我們是3月10號才發文這個是先前就已經有相關的指引那目前是針對這個個案我們再次的發文提醒學校好的那我請你們後續要\n陸續追蹤好不好因為這次我們看到的是很多的學生他有些因為他已經不高中生他可能已經畢業念大學了但看到念高中的制服照片怎麼也在網站上面很多學生還是很害怕那第一時間可能不知道要如何來求救跟求助這點我們希望學校應該要因新評教育法來主動提供協助好不好好的謝謝主席謝謝市長\n好 謝謝市長請回 謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢在休息之前跟大家宣告一下說明一下我們在我們群憲樓後面那幅畫是我們文化部提供的是我們台灣本土的年輕藝術家謝宇儒他的畫作那我們現在每一個會期都會提供新的畫作展覽在我們的後方\n這是我們全部委員會 只有我們教文委員會獨一無二的所以我們在群賢101有這樣的一個福氣可以慶長到我們台灣本土藝術家的畫作跟大家報告一下 好 我們休息十分鐘\n謝謝謝謝\n醬汁\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.209 --> 00:03.131\n我請教育部葉秉成次長有請葉次長次長好我剛剛在前面有提到說我們親資會\n\n00:14.676 --> 00:31.657\n在2016年的時候曾經被國民黨批評為說是黑機關是肥貓那剛剛前面我也聽到我們林沛翔委員似乎對於親自會的運作不是那麼的熟悉了解所以我希望教育部尤其你們身為首長很重要的工作是加強溝通是\n\n00:32.918 --> 00:37.099\n因為我們長期在觀察青資會我認為青資會過去提出了非常多很好的政策的建議那也給予我們的部會後續來執行對我們青年有很大的幫助例如我們的心理健康支持方案例如我們社會創新方案例如我們在校園裡面開始免費提供\n\n00:52.703 --> 01:08.747\n生理用品這些很多都是我們青資會共同研議然後也跟我們的行政部門討論的成果所以你們一定要務必加強溝通讓更多的委員一起來支持我們的青年工作好不好好那接下來呢我所擔心的是我們仍然要去面對現實的情況因為呢\n\n01:14.588 --> 01:18.709\n上個預算會期立法院送出了是大幅刪減的這個最後的結果那昨天行政院提出復議包括了總預算案以及裁劃法那立法院再次的維持原決議那所以呢我看到我們主計長在備詢的時候他有進行說明他說呢他擔心的是這個有期裁劃法\n\n01:44.153 --> 01:49.637\n裁划法在原先如果按照原先的數字中央會被拿走3753億那因為在這個裁划法立法院通過的時候並沒有指定說這個事權怎麼樣來區分所以如果按照平均來講少3723億如果平均分配每一個部會可能每一個部會要去減少的是28%的比例那麼主席\n\n02:12.473 --> 02:38.166\n想講說因為國防預算對我們國家非常重要所以假設扣除國防預算的話哇那每個部會平均會遇到的衝擊可能要減少的是近38%的比例我看到教育部在去年12月的時候也發布一個新聞稿希望跟國人說明若才化法通過對教育部會有什麼樣的衝擊所以我現在想要請問次長如果說現在才化法\n\n02:38.886 --> 02:47.678\n已經沒有如果了他已經通過了對教育部以預算來講目前預計會衝擊到數字是大約是多少有沒有開始評估了\n\n02:48.191 --> 03:02.138\n我想現在差不多已經我們也開始在朝你明年度的預算但是目前因為就是整個預算的狀況非常不明朗我不知道114年的預算到底是怎麼樣打定案我們114年交易部遠列預算是3623億如果說以28%來計算的話會減少的是1014億如果以37%來計算的話會減少的是1340億\n\n03:15.905 --> 03:21.089\n哇這個是非常高的比例所以我比較擔心的是因為市長您剛剛前面被選的時候也有提到採劃法未來從中央撿了這麼多錢那要撥到地方對青年工作有可能會不會有哪些是受到衝擊的呢\n\n03:30.618 --> 03:53.177\n我想如果整體的教育部的預算受到影響的話那我想這個是很有可能其實包括好幾個面向的因為這個財務法通過之後因為整個包括財務法其中有一條本來是這個中央常態性補助的這些錢一毛錢都不能少還是要中央出所以整個中央預算裡面要給地方政府的這個錢其實\n\n03:55.499 --> 04:11.420\n還有相當一大塊是沒有辦法就是3700億其實還有很多的這個一個空缺是要從跟地方無關的事務的預算要從這邊扣除的那這其實會我想這對教育部未來我們是擔心他會有相當大的影響\n\n04:11.800 --> 04:13.822\n對是所以這個都要進行很謹慎的來評估那因為我們今天審議青年基本法其實就希望可以制定一個新的法律但當我們在制定新的法律的時候裡面也有新的對青年的定義也有新的對青年工作的範圍\n\n04:29.679 --> 04:34.301\n然後以及我們希望他可以橫跨各個部會也就是說他有可能會牽涉到我們行政業務的增加那業務的增加他當然必須要預算的支持所以這一點我也必須要拜託我們立法院所有的同仁倘若我們是支持青年基本法我們支持認為政府應該來當青年的後盾的話我們給法\n\n04:51.286 --> 05:00.316\n也要給預算的支持才能夠讓這個工作能夠確實的來執行那我們青年基本法當然已經等待很久而且刻不容緩剛剛次長有提到說一個月內會抱怨對不對這個是可以承諾的好\n\n05:06.283 --> 05:10.529\n暴行政院一個月內是暴行政院那我們立法院我們期待的是這個會期要能夠來三讀通過所以我想請問次長目前你們在跟立法院的委員溝通當中有遇到什麼困難嗎\n\n05:23.893 --> 05:46.610\n我想目前都還好那行政院在這個案子也是都相當關心所以你們內部行政院內部加速來討論在立法院我們也希望你們可以加強溝通我們希望可以在這個會期能夠來把它三讀通過那在青年基本法當中呢我們很關注的是在法律上面我們目前定義主管機關就是教育部這件事很重要為什麼\n\n05:47.310 --> 05:53.232\n因為呢過去七年的工作全部都壓在我們清發署身上而清發署的預算今年19億這個在我們中央政府總預算的是千分之六是你們教育部三個署裡面最低的這是很低很低的預算但是呢也已經比去年多了兩倍之多\n\n06:05.077 --> 06:33.882\n去年的預算甚至是7.4億那因為今年我們是新增了百億青年圓蒙基金所以讓青發署的預算增加了讓我們業務能夠去推動所以呢未來青年基本法就是要讓我們的政府各個部會那現在教育部是主責啦但是你們來籌設嘛跟其他部會來討論我們希望未來我們政府在這個行政的編列還有這個預算上面都要來給予青年更多的支持因為\n\n06:34.702 --> 06:50.118\n青年基本法不只是一個口號我們有提到要做青年的主流化就是我們希望政府要定期的來評估過去我們做了什麼主流化性別主流化嘛已經推動了20年所以各個部會都是定期的都有\n\n06:50.518 --> 07:06.835\n性平的統計然後相關的研究報告來看看我們有沒有什麼樣的政策推動是對性平有可能造成不利的影響所以我們也希望未來各個部會都要有能力能夠來自行也就是我們推動的政策第一個對青年發展是否有利第二個對青年發展是否會造成不利的影響\n\n07:10.419 --> 07:14.423\n這應該要有一個比較客觀性的並且長期追蹤的這個調研的資料報告再來是青年的公共參與這一點我相信市長也認為相當的重要所以我們希望未來這個在我們的政策制定當中每一個青年的政策都能夠有青年的聲音\n\n07:28.995 --> 07:50.983\n這也是我們看韓國的青年基本法給我們最大的啟發然後也是我們非常多青年團體很大的期待那最後我想要請問的是在我們的這個青年工作當中其實過去很多是以學校為單位但我們現在看到很多是全國例如說跨校的社團跨校的組織甚至他是以協助青年為主軸的社團法人未來我們的青年基本法當中能不能來給予這些團體支持\n\n07:58.346 --> 08:20.595\n我想這個在我們現在就已經有給他們支持啊未來當然會持續給他們支持是好我想這一點是非常重要的對整個新年發展工作是希望我們可以再繼續的加強努力最後要講的是制服地圖事件這個事件現在他已經有報案所以呢監警也已經介入調查那事實上我們國教署\n\n08:22.213 --> 08:43.789\n依據性評法應該是也可以來去協助倘若他是在校生他是性騷擾性霸凌事件疑似的受害者學校都可以依法來協助調查處理也可以協助當事人必要的協助這包括了與警察局或者他假設涉及到性影像處理的話\n\n08:44.289 --> 08:46.210\n是能夠來進行通報跟橫向聯繫的這一個我們國教署未來能不能來有類似事件的話能不能來加強輔導學校要主動的來提供協助\n\n08:57.369 --> 09:22.312\n那跟委員報告我更正一下因為委員有提及怎麼協助那我們其實在3月10號的時候已經發文給各縣市政府提醒這件事情那因為部裡面在去年3月有發布一個指引那我們提醒縣市除了依照指引之外我們其實還有兒少權法還有性剝削法等等裡面都有一些輔導措施那我們自己本身也有輔導相關的措施都引導他們還有性別平等教育的\n\n09:22.692 --> 09:39.690\n部分也都一併的提醒他們要來做處理那最後如果說有一些被害的事項來講的話就會依照聯繫警察局還有一些性影像處理中心橫向下架等等的這些事項都有一併提醒以上你們有提醒各縣市政府要來\n\n09:40.931 --> 09:43.313\n提醒學校要來處理那你們知不知道他們協助的結果有沒有手邊有沒有掌握資訊因為我們是3月10號才發文這個是先前就已經有相關的指引那目前是針對這個個案我們再次的發文提醒學校好的那我請你們後續要\n\n10:00.087 --> 10:22.901\n陸續追蹤好不好因為這次我們看到的是很多的學生他有些因為他已經不高中生他可能已經畢業念大學了但看到念高中的制服照片怎麼也在網站上面很多學生還是很害怕那第一時間可能不知道要如何來求救跟求助這點我們希望學校應該要因新評教育法來主動提供協助好不好好的謝謝主席謝謝市長\n\n10:25.080 --> 10:43.428\n好謝謝市長請回謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢在休息之前跟大家宣告一下說明一下我們在我們群憲樓後面那幅畫是我們文化部提供的是我們台灣本土的年輕藝術家謝宇儒他的畫作那我們現在每一個會期都會提供新的畫作展覽在我們的後方\n\n10:51.511 --> 11:04.143\n這是我們全部委員會只有我們教文委員會獨一無二的所以我們在群賢101有這樣的一個福氣可以慶長到我們台灣本土藝術家的畫作跟大家報告一下好我們休息十分鐘\n\n11:57.056 --> 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20 人擬具「青年基本法草案」案；十七、審查委員林德福等 20 人擬具\n「青年發展基本法草案」案；十八、審查委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「青年基本法草案」案 (僅進行\n詢答)","agenda_id":"1142601_00009"}}}