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00:02:20,850\n法務部所負責的跟打債有關係的當然是相關的炸機的追緝跟被害人的相關的保護那有關查緝的部分後端我們事實上這幾年來我們打到剛年來我們查緝不論是集團數也好人數也好他的查獲量一直在成長的\n\n8\n00:02:21,511 --> 00:02:40,374\n但是委員關鍵是犯罪被害人查過量一直在成長就知道我們的答案是越來越嚴重不一定是這樣子必然的關係那委員提到的就是說被害人的如何快速的被害金可以取得那基本上這個最前端的是甲官要積極去查扣犯罪所得\n\n9\n00:02:40,914 --> 00:03:03,912\n所以我們在在整個相關的函字也要求檢察官在第一線追查這個炸雞案件的時候你一定要首先把犯罪手段給他查扣這一點有查扣才會有返還嘛這第一點查扣面我們加強第二個我們也推一個叫做什麼偵查中跟審判中的調和解制度對你被告你要取得檢察官的緩解訴或你判刑之後檢察官不上訴前提你要跟\n\n10\n00:03:04,753 --> 00:03:18,502\n跟這個被害人達成和解或調解檢察官才會讓你還幾數甚至才不上訴這從訴訟中我們幫助犯罪被害人那訴訟後呢當然我們打造專法有一些相關的讓\n\n11\n00:03:20,003 --> 00:03:39,226\n被害人他的裁判費可以暫時免繳相關的執行費暫時免繳我們來減輕犯罪被害人他求償的訴訟上的困難從這個事前事中事後我們需要透過這些方式來保護我們犯罪被害人及早地拿回他的犯罪被害的金額\n\n12\n00:03:39,807 --> 00:04:01,382\n那我也跟委員報告我們這次打造專法這是我們法務部面啦打造專法其實它在定了一條讓我們銀行端在前端它就可以直接返還這個受凍結帳戶裡面的金錢以前沒有這樣法律規定現在它在26條裡面特別讓銀行可以做這個事情所以它可以及早就返還不用等到我們司法機關介入再返還這個就是重點\n\n13\n00:04:02,674 --> 00:04:21,392\n被詐騙者他的目的就是要拿回他被詐騙的這個金額這個重點以新加坡為例新加坡是直接銀行專員就直接到警察局總局去進駐只要有接獲到警察有接獲到案件他們直接\n\n14\n00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:35,946\n可以跟銀行團去確認這個錢還在不在先保護到這個錢所以這個方案是新加坡的這個方式那是不是你們在檢討的時候也可以拿出來檢討因為等到我們檢察官這麼辛苦我剛剛說的這麼辛苦\n\n15\n00:04:41,191 --> 00:04:52,037\n這麼多案也表示詐騙案件一直在累進增加的情況之下我們的方案還有什麼樣剛剛您說的在前端的這三個階段我們還可以怎麼樣去做調整我也提供新加坡的他們怎麼樣確保被詐騙的錢能夠真正的在銀行就扣住才能夠讓被害者可以拿到他們的錢這才是重點\n\n16\n00:05:05,345 --> 00:05:29,830\n我應該報告就是我們打造專法其實有規範啦他財產他的所得被銀行凍結之後啊警示帳戶之後啊他可以司法警察可以通知他這個已經不是詐騙這樣這個是在你剛剛說的第三個動作嘛對對對所以這個可以再精進喔你們再去討論我提供新加坡的這樣子的方式大家再去討論喔我們希望讓這個受害者\n\n17\n00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:51,010\n能夠這個錢可以追回來才是重點接下來我要跟你講毒的問題因為我們看到新世代的反毒策略但是我們看到年齡層似乎有在下降我們看到呢也就是上個月還傳出疑似有國中生遭霸凌未讀致死的案件\n\n18\n00:05:51,890 --> 00:06:20,709\n這些案件媒體一報讓我們的家長很憂心很憂心喔所以我給你一個數字也就是在112年1月到11月我們有474人113年那麼是達到542人是在增加的它不減反增喔不減反增所以年齡層在下降本身要請教喔在我們的面向可以怎麼樣去遏止這一些的毒品進入校園\n\n19\n00:06:22,671 --> 00:06:41,007\n可以怎麼做呢?公文報告那大概就少年這塊當然他是這個教育部他有相關的春暉狀案即將進行相關的宣導跟相關的教育工作那就法務部主管來講就犯罪的偵辦角度來講他這個當然他有可能是少年法庭他所主管的部分\n\n20\n00:06:41,847 --> 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我剛剛也跟其他委員報告是不是我們在成少共犯的狀況之下這少年背後一定有個成年的共犯 有可能有他的獨頭 源頭也可能是成年所以我們在加強追緝這個成年人的部分這是關鍵對 它過後的溯源的共犯的追求成少共犯的問題是我們保護報近期注意到的問題我們積極在成少共犯方面加強他的查緝\n425399\t435727\t朔源這是非常重要釜底抽薪那我們也希望在宣導的時候也可以多加宣導讓大家都能夠放心知道這個是不能碰的謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 楊泉發言 邀請次長馬上次長\n我也好市長我要跟你我們來討論這個詐騙的事情那我們有宣誓貫徹這個五打七安政策我們有宣誓要安定經濟秩序啊社會安全科技偵查電信這個網路詐欺的經濟金融不法的案件以及要打擊黑幫組織食安以及綠能\n等犯罪但是其中呢詐騙案不斷地在增加讓民眾的權益一直受損政府我們推動了行動綱領的這個打詐2.0正式上路可以看出政府的決心但是看不到它的成效我們看到現在所抓到的僅僅抓到車手根本抓不到這個主嫌\n而更不要說他被詐騙的錢根本追不回來所以民眾很辛苦很苦所以在這樣的情況之下本校請教我們在去年統計8月到12月每個月的財損都破百億每一個月都破百億去年那光光今年這個月\n第一週就超過了4000件的詐騙案件他的金額超過了16億光光這一個禮拜這個月的第一個禮拜在這樣的情況之下本席要請教你要怎麼樣去協助被詐騙的人他的金額可以追回來\n那我們有什麼方案我們不斷的2.0不斷的提升但是數字告訴我們是更加的嚴峻所以請教次長\n法務部所負責的跟打債有關係的當然是相關的炸機的追緝跟被害人的相關的保護那有關查緝的部分後端我們事實上這幾年來我們打到剛年來我們查緝不論是集團數也好人數也好他的查獲量一直在成長的\n但是委員關鍵是犯罪被害人查過量一直在成長就知道我們的答案是越來越嚴重不一定是這樣子必然的關係那委員提到的就是說被害人的如何快速的被害金可以取得那基本上這個最前端的是甲官要積極去查扣犯罪所得\n所以我們在在整個相關的函字也要求檢察官在第一線追查這個炸雞案件的時候你一定要首先把犯罪手段給他查扣這一點有查扣才會有返還嘛這第一點查扣面我們加強第二個我們也推一個叫做什麼偵查中跟審判中的調和解制度對你被告你要取得檢察官的緩解訴或你判刑之後檢察官不上訴前提你要跟\n跟這個被害人達成和解或調解檢察官才會讓你還幾數甚至才不上訴這從訴訟中我們幫助犯罪被害人那訴訟後呢當然我們打造專法有一些相關的讓\n被害人他的裁判費可以暫時免繳相關的執行費暫時免繳我們來減輕犯罪被害人他求償的訴訟上的困難從這個事前事中事後我們需要透過這些方式來保護我們犯罪被害人及早地拿回他的犯罪被害的金額\n那我也跟委員報告 我們這次打造專法 這是我們法務部面啦打造專法其實它在定了一條讓我們銀行端 在前端它就可以直接返還這個受凍結帳戶裡面的金錢以前沒有這樣法律規定 現在它在26條裡面特別讓銀行可以做這個事情所以它可以及早就返還 不用等到我們司法機關介入再返還這個就是重點\n被詐騙者他的目的就是要拿回他被詐騙的這個金額這個重點以新加坡為例新加坡是直接銀行專員就直接到警察局總局去進駐只要有接獲到警察有接獲到案件他們直接\n可以跟銀行團去確認這個錢還在不在先保護到這個錢所以這個方案是新加坡的這個方式那是不是你們在檢討的時候也可以拿出來檢討因為等到我們檢察官這麼辛苦我剛剛說的這麼辛苦\n這麼多案也表示詐騙案件一直在累進增加的情況之下我們的方案還有什麼樣剛剛您說的在前端的這三個階段我們還可以怎麼樣去做調整我也提供新加坡的他們怎麼樣確保被詐騙的錢能夠真正的在銀行就扣住才能夠讓被害者可以拿到他們的錢這才是重點\n我應該報告就是我們打造專法其實有規範啦他財產他的所得被銀行凍結之後啊警示帳戶之後啊他可以司法警察可以通知他這個已經不是詐騙這樣這個是在你剛剛說的第三個動作嘛對對對所以這個可以再精進喔你們再去討論我提供新加坡的這樣子的方式大家再去討論喔我們希望讓這個受害者\n能夠這個錢可以追回來才是重點接下來我要跟你講毒的問題因為我們看到新世代的反毒策略但是我們看到年齡層似乎有在下降我們看到呢也就是上個月還傳出疑似有國中生遭霸凌未讀致死的案件\n這些案件媒體一報讓我們的家長很憂心很憂心喔所以我給你一個數字也就是在112年1月到11月我們有474人113年那麼是達到542人是在增加的它不減反增喔不減反增所以年齡層在下降本身要請教喔在我們的面向可以怎麼樣去遏止這一些的毒品進入校園\n可以怎麼做呢?公文報告那大概就少年這塊當然他是這個教育部他有相關的春暉狀案即將進行相關的宣導跟相關的教育工作那就法務部主管來講就犯罪的偵辦角度來講他這個當然他有可能是少年法庭他所主管的部分\n就我們保護可以做的 我剛剛也跟其他委員報告是不是我們在成少共犯的狀況之下這少年背後一定有個成年的共犯 有可能有他的獨頭 源頭也可能是成年所以我們在加強追緝這個成年人的部分這是關鍵對 它過後的溯源的共犯的追求成少共犯的問題是我們保護報近期注意到的問題我們積極在成少共犯方面加強他的查緝\n朔源這是非常重要釜底抽薪那我們也希望在宣導的時候也可以多加宣導讓大家都能夠放心知道這個是不能碰的謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.025 --> 00:03.668\n謝謝主席楊泉發言邀請次長馬上次長\n\n00:07.990 --> 00:34.445\n我也好市長我要跟你我們來討論這個詐騙的事情那我們有宣誓貫徹這個五打七安政策我們有宣誓要安定經濟秩序啊社會安全科技偵查電信這個網路詐欺的經濟金融不法的案件以及要打擊黑幫組織食安以及綠能\n\n00:35.746 --> 01:00.197\n等犯罪但是其中呢詐騙案不斷地在增加讓民眾的權益一直受損政府我們推動了行動綱領的這個打詐2.0正式上路可以看出政府的決心但是看不到它的成效我們看到現在所抓到的僅僅抓到車手根本抓不到這個主嫌\n\n01:01.678 --> 01:24.765\n而更不要說他被詐騙的錢根本追不回來所以民眾很辛苦很苦所以在這樣的情況之下本校請教我們在去年統計8月到12月每個月的財損都破百億每一個月都破百億去年那光光今年這個月\n\n01:27.708 --> 01:47.668\n第一週就超過了4000件的詐騙案件他的金額超過了16億光光這一個禮拜這個月的第一個禮拜在這樣的情況之下本席要請教你要怎麼樣去協助被詐騙的人他的金額可以追回來\n\n01:48.840 --> 01:59.502\n那我們有什麼方案我們不斷的2.0不斷的提升但是數字告訴我們是更加的嚴峻所以請教次長\n\n02:00.709 --> 02:20.850\n法務部所負責的跟打債有關係的當然是相關的炸機的追緝跟被害人的相關的保護那有關查緝的部分後端我們事實上這幾年來我們打到剛年來我們查緝不論是集團數也好人數也好他的查獲量一直在成長的\n\n02:21.511 --> 02:40.374\n但是委員關鍵是犯罪被害人查過量一直在成長就知道我們的答案是越來越嚴重不一定是這樣子必然的關係那委員提到的就是說被害人的如何快速的被害金可以取得那基本上這個最前端的是甲官要積極去查扣犯罪所得\n\n02:40.914 --> 03:03.912\n所以我們在在整個相關的函字也要求檢察官在第一線追查這個炸雞案件的時候你一定要首先把犯罪手段給他查扣這一點有查扣才會有返還嘛這第一點查扣面我們加強第二個我們也推一個叫做什麼偵查中跟審判中的調和解制度對你被告你要取得檢察官的緩解訴或你判刑之後檢察官不上訴前提你要跟\n\n03:04.753 --> 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