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00:00:29,617\n謝謝主席主席有請我們董正次如果有其他部會相關要補充的話那麼請官員自行上台好請次長次長其實剛剛我在這邊聽了很久因為我是外委員會的但是我想這個是跟民生相關所以朝野委員都非常的關注包括剛剛前面的委員都有提到就是現在變成電動車當然是一個趨勢啦但是如果說根據我們現在所看到的市面上的佔比喔電動車\n\n2\n00:00:32,058 --> 00:00:59,024\n步進它還是比8.2%那麼油電混合車是25.7%但是它其實油電混合車是不需要充電的那多數還是油車那麼根據媒體的報導我們也看得出來就是其實常常是這樣因為電動車的車主在整個大廈裡面就是少數只要表決都不過剛剛很開心我也聽到就是說接下來我們要修法的方向就是希望能夠朝說有它一定的必要性就是說那我們在整體的不要說因為\n\n3\n00:00:59,824 --> 00:01:18,918\n因為其實像我現在本席聽到的很多的陳情都是這樣他實際上面臨的狀況就是整個管委會不願意通過那就變成是先裝先贏但先裝先贏的話就有的線路他會有一定的用電量當你先裝先贏到有一天你突然間發現額滿了那\n\n4\n00:01:22,824 --> 00:01:27,408\n後面的人該怎麼辦就會引發其實不必要的爭議所以本席是非常的肯定這個修法然後透過一定的法定的程序之後讓這個管委會就算是主委或者是其他成員想推動也不要有一兩位因為在情緒上或者是不了解上然後去卡住\n\n5\n00:01:43,823 --> 00:02:06,701\n那麼如果就這樣的話因為剛剛其實大家都想問的就是騎乘到底這樣的一個騎乘是怎麼樣來做排定因為現在說還在調查還在了解當中然後甚至於還沒有抱怨嘛對不對那麼政策可不可以很明確的告訴我們如果今天朝野上面都有這樣的構式的時候騎乘可以加速嗎那麼到底你們抓的時間點會是多久\n\n6\n00:02:10,141 --> 00:02:34,891\n謝謝委員的指教我想包括剛才召委都有指示我們就希望儘快在三個月內我們先把相關的法規做盤點一次還有相關的安全規範因為所有的問題包括說地方的那個管委會之所以反對都是安全問題我們把相關的防火區範什麼透過國土署消防署跟戒嚴所我們三方的研究然後再跟經濟部這邊做協商經濟部當部做協商之後我們儘快在三個月內把相關法規先做\n\n7\n00:02:35,891 --> 00:02:58,146\n一個初步的盤點確認之後那我們趕快提出來跟報院那透過院的協調我們趕快把相關的機制把它建立出來那如果法案這邊都明確了我們就看能不能儘速送大院來審查好所以言下之意這個時間有三個月但說長不長但說短也不短這過程中就很需要做溝通其實我剛剛綜合了一下大家所聽的就是反對充電樁的疑慮者大概就是安全跟花錢我特別整理了一下在安全的部分呢\n\n8\n00:03:06,051 --> 00:03:12,953\n從各位的報告當中消防安檢的部分已經有指引了就像剛剛政次所說的保險的部分我也很開心就是包括像金管會等等這些產險業者受險業者他們也都開始針對施工廠商充電樁社區跟車主等於是說一邊有法規另外一邊也有如果真的不幸發生意外的時候有補強的措施那麼再來就是有關於花錢\n\n9\n00:03:30,618 --> 00:03:42,466\n其實本席也特別去找了甚至我都看過媒體報導其實現在各個縣市都有一些補助跟有一些相關的這些設備的補充那行政院要推動所謂運具電動化及無碳化其實在過去是有補充充電樁包括還有補充這個快充槍啊什麼慢充槍等等所以言下之意這整體的配套的部分不論是安全或者是花錢其實都算完備是吧正次\n\n10\n00:04:01,325 --> 00:04:11,856\n我想相關的法律行政院其實都有完整的配套各部會是一起合作來推動這個政策的好但是問題就來了宣傳夠不夠包括剛剛我聽到委員在問說這個\n\n11\n00:04:14,935 --> 00:04:34,109\n我們現在到底有多少電動樁到底有多少需求那有沒有要去做研究但是羊毛出在羊身上巧婦難為無你之炊我們昨天很遺憾的是總預算這個所謂負益就是被推翻了身為執政黨的委員當然我們立委就是要監督但是現在你們的宣傳費被捅刪60%剛剛還有委員建議說要不要來做一個\n\n12\n00:04:39,073 --> 00:04:56,557\n填掉啊問題是有錢嗎我剛剛前面講的我其實我很認真而且我很擔憂的就是說你們現在要花三個月的時間要去把這個理出來但是回到我的第一章反對的人他就是反對因為他會認為他的資訊不夠充足包括安全的資訊不夠充足包括能不能補助的資訊不夠充足現在你們有錢在三個月內\n\n13\n00:05:07,339 --> 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