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00:01:58,170\n所以在這個情況底下對一般的國人甚至對所有的軍人國人的人權跟軍中的人權都不會做任何的傷害我想這幾年來這些的狀況越來越多了穩功武嚇甚至共諜的滲透越來越多那我認為其實這是民主台灣在面對專制中國一個到後來必須要面對的讓全世界都在面對專制中國的這些手段台灣作為民主陣營的第一線而且是\n\n6\n00:01:58,570 --> 00:02:17,295\n他有統一的企圖的時候我們更應該提高我們的所有的一些防禦的能力這個才能確保我們自由民主的生活確保我們的台灣的下一代還能保有我們自由民主的生活院長應該同意這樣的看法吧是的那我再請教院長那接下來行政院有哪些需要配合總統這些作為要來推動的我們有十幾項的\n\n7\n00:02:21,052 --> 00:02:46,091\n包括修法包括立法都一一的要來做一個處理我看到有相當法律要來做推動院長多久時間會來提出來把這些修法提出來在昨天的會議上面我說了在總統的裁釋之後我們就會依照總統裁釋的內容由各部會就他自己訂定行動的方案或是各種的策略但是要有專案來執行第二個\n\n8\n00:02:46,670 --> 00:03:14,553\n要定期來考核而且要限期來完成院長這些都有實效性什麼時候會提出來一個完整就是把大家的各個需要修法的方案提出來而且這個昨天總統的才事經過一天我想各部會正在緊密的作業過去都有做一些準備那目前還要做一些橫向的聯繫包括國防部陸委會內政部都要有一些相關一個月三個月還是要多久時間院長認為應該多久時間盡速把它提出這些修正我覺得一個月我們會把整套計畫都做出來\n\n9\n00:03:14,753 --> 00:03:31,874\n用一個月的方式來努力來做出來因為這個是有相當的急迫性的我們希望一個月的時間再不會盤點提出來只是修法應該相當的快至少提出來然後讓國人清楚知道整體的配合總統的修法方向出來謝謝再回想一下今天民調也有出來了對於總預算的部分\n\n10\n00:03:34,036 --> 00:03:48,031\n亂砍亂山的部分有53人認為是不適當國人認為不適當只有27人是認為適當而已所以有過半數的民意其實是確實對於這樣亂砍亂山是不認同的那接下來院長接下來我們會提出什麼樣的動作會進行釋憲嗎\n\n11\n00:03:50,492 --> 00:04:19,712\n很抱歉因為我們也知道這樣的狀況但是如果我們回到大嶽的場景很多部位首長在這裡是沒有辦法把政策說明清楚的除非像我們前兩天我們主計長他才能夠很清楚把數字說得清楚但說的過程我想也不見得每個都懂所以院長釋憲會提嗎釋憲會提出來嗎釋憲當然是我們現在合法合憲的憲法救濟程序之一種所以釋憲會提然後另外也會跟人民做說明是這樣嗎\n\n12\n00:04:21,523 --> 00:04:35,311\n會向國人去做正面的報告院長那這個黨部辦的這八場的部分院長都會親自出席嗎我們現在就比較近期的我們有列入行程有列入行程\n\n13\n00:04:36,260 --> 00:05:03,593\n那院長那為什麼需要院長親自站出來這個其實並不是一個這個過去來其實不多見顯然這個行政院遇到相當大一個挑戰所以才要親自院長要親自站出來跟人民做說明因為捍衛今年度的中央政府總預算我想行政院我們責無旁貸必須向國人說明在這個中央政府總預算如果合理的執行底下國家會有什麼樣的全面的發展\n\n14\n00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:29,685\n但如果受到這樣的一個不合理的刪減那多少計畫會因此受影響同時在對財化法方面把中央3753億的經費預算挪到地方去稅率挪到地方去會造成中央多少的財政的空虛這一點的部分我必須也向國人說清楚未來在落實地方自治的精神底下該地方政府來自應的就地方政府自應該中央來負責的就中央來負責\n\n15\n00:05:30,553 --> 00:05:49,698\n我也認為到了這個時間點確實作為最高的行政首長也有責任跟人民說清楚當在立法院沒有機會被講清楚的時候那透過地方上不管是民團或者是其他的邀請的方式跟人民做更清楚的說明讓人民更清楚到底發生了什麼事我認為這也是行政院長的職責啦院長應該同意這樣的看法嗎\n\n16\n00:05:50,578 --> 00:06:13,488\n好那我接下來想請教一下高雄這次的重災區在這次的茶葉板的修正幾乎是被六度裡面是增幅最少增幅最少相較於台北增加了416億高雄只增加245億所以還有很多人得意而言說奧威赫拿了245億但是沒有講到是3700多億被拿掉之後未來有一半的錢是補助不下去的所以\n\n17\n00:06:13,888 --> 00:06:40,741\n等同今年本來高雄也許有機會拿到700億的一個補助款只剩350億所以實質上面最弱高雄實質上減少了100億是全台灣最大的重災區所以我認為這個怎麼能不說明就是這樣的狀況其實重北輕南甚至重南輕綠的狀況我認為應該要去改變所以為什麼人民這麼不滿這一次的從民調看來這麼不滿顯然人民也看到這個問題這樣的做法絕對不是台灣長治久安的做法\n\n18\n00:06:41,701 --> 00:07:09,200\n我現在倒回來問院長能不能還是請你持續的支持區域均衡發展特別對於中南部的建設還是要大力去支持院長可以承諾嗎當然在總統的理念底下均衡台灣所衍生出來的台灣六大區域治理計畫這是今年度開始要執行的即使在這樣的一個總預算跟財劃法這樣的不合理的調整底下我們還是要衡量所有的財政\n\n19\n00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:29,446\n把集中財政可行的範圍在可以的地方先行來開始中南部的鄉親很支持政府也不斷的在供電也支持甚至於各項產業全力支持我也希望中央一樣持續支持中南部這些鄉親們他們需要的建設還是希望中央群職我先問一下\n\n20\n00:07:30,066 --> 00:07:50,366\n大林埔千春從2019年10月8號合訂到現在已經過5年多了院長可不可以加快速度在今年底讓他開始能夠登記讓整個環評跟都市計畫程序加快一點讓今年底已經過了5年多了快要6年了真的相當長的時間能不能盡快給大林埔鄉親們一個明確的答案在今年底開始來做登記\n\n21\n00:07:51,067 --> 00:08:06,801\n最後包括他的一些安置的一些類設宅的一些規劃經濟部跟內政部我知道已經達成了相當的協議可以往這個方向來執行那這個例子我們就在大陸這個地方來做一個實施但是我想\n\n22\n00:08:07,862 --> 00:08:32,760\n直施的時間我會把它拉的進來因為這個大臨普的千春計畫還會牽到其他周遭的南西計畫等等這個是牽扯這是一個對國家非常重要的計畫對鄉親也很重要對國家競爭力發展都很重要的計畫我希望院長持續緊盯這個計畫我希望能夠在今年底前有一個比較明確的答案讓鄉親已經等了五年多快六年了能夠做一個登記好不好朝這個方向努力好不好\n\n23\n00:08:33,507 --> 00:08:34,749\n我們現在會加速辦理環平莊環平過了以後我想就是會開始辦理千村\n\n24\n00:08:47,261 --> 00:09:16,981\n好不好院長請努力朝年底今年年底前來朝這個方向好嗎好的好謝謝院長再來其實高雄的很多的交通建設跟產業建設都需要院裡面的大力的支持那我想問的是國道7號這個拖了13年貨櫃車基本上都在這邊跑的非常的影響到人民的生命安全院長拖了13年能不能再趕一下在明年的6月來如期開工這個是當時的開工日期是明年6月能不能如期來開工院長能不能朝這個方向來努力\n\n25\n00:09:18,282 --> 00:09:32,435\n跟委員報告之前會拖延是因為土地徵收的問題那目前土地徵收看起來次序上應該是可以所以我們希望明年的六月可以來準時開工所以明年六月如期來開工我們希望院長跟部長都盯緊這個程序這一條對高雄對鄉親們都很重要\n\n26\n00:09:37,219 --> 00:10:05,018\n在平面道路跑然後造成很多的重大的死亡車禍A1死亡車禍在沿海路上面常常就是因為是貨櫃車跟轎車而發生的所以我們希望這樣的悲劇不再發生那國道七號本來就配合第七貨櫃中心應該要一起來啟用了七櫃已經開始啟用了但是國道七號連動工還沒動動工完還要興建五到六年的時間我們希望加速至少明年六月先動工讓人民感受到政府的效率好不好請院長部長來大力支持好我們來努力\n\n27\n00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:16,674\n再要請教一下高雄的紫線現在也全力在推了那當然這是一個新的線路那院長能不能大力支持在今年以前能夠給予一個比較明確的支持\n\n28\n00:10:18,935 --> 00:10:46,465\n來子縣的部分目前是在可行性研究的階段那這個部分我們來加速進行我知道已經進行可行性那已經可行性完了之後當然就有接下來要不要去支持的議題了那我們看到大台北的捷運是一條蓋過一條那我們也希望高雄已經很努力的包括第三條已經在準備要做了那我們希望子縣這一條經過非常多的人口密集區也經過許多的學校我們希望中央盡速來支持\n\n29\n00:10:47,065 --> 00:11:14,069\n可行性通過之後也希望今年底能夠來核定這些經費繼續支持高雄的交通運輸建設好嗎好我們來加速去年底才送到交通部的對去年底的可行性進來了那今年應該可行性完成接下來就是編列經費的一個程序好不好請院長跟部長再大力來支持再一個是國道1號的跟現在台南高雄常常塞得很厲害啦如果有在跑就知道因為高雄是南北向的\n\n30\n00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:38,212\n那我們看到其實台北做得已經很好從汐止到五股到陽梅現在要做到頭份了一整條非常的便利一個高架的讓整個舒緩交通而高雄現在從市區到這個岡山甚至到台南是塞得很嚴重上下班時間塞得很嚴重假日前更嚴重我希望能夠啟動這個高架道路的系統如同北台灣的這個高架系統一樣舒緩讓穿越性的車流\n\n31\n00:11:38,692 --> 00:12:00,950\n直接能夠不要在下面堵在一起這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能夠來規劃朝這個方向來規劃國一國七它有一個連關性部長來答是報告委員國七我們加速來推動國七如果完成之後其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助但國一的部分確實那一段非常的塞不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成黨土牆\n\n32\n00:12:02,191 --> 00:12:10,816\n所以他如果是要做高價的話會有影響到一些民房跟一些中修的問題但這個部分可不可以請部長先做規劃了好不好因為國新比較偏東邊他離市區上比較遠那因為\n\n33\n00:12:17,079 --> 00:12:45,231\n因為高雄因為左邊最左邊遇到有軍港跟這個的影響所以它變成不像台六四一能夠那麼暢通所以變成南北現在主要道路就是在國一那國一如果能夠比照像北台灣這樣子能夠有高架道路的話它基本上就會讓整個市區的車流會方便很多啦那我希望我們的建設都走在前端現在雍設已經出現了如果我們能提早來做規劃的話對於十年二十年後的這個下一代子孫他們的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助\n\n34\n00:12:45,951 --> 00:13:00,528\n我希望能夠提早來規劃好不好北部的從這個汐止做到現在已經做到頭份了苗栗的頭份了已經做到苗栗頭份我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動讓兩大都會區的未來的交通更加的便利好不好謝謝院長先優先來規劃\n\n35\n00:13:03,311 --> 00:13:16,106\n在高雄機場其實是台灣第二大的國際機場但現在很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線但我們一直增加更多的日本啊其他的航線那美國的今年7月有機會從台灣到日本\n\n36\n00:13:18,408 --> 00:13:35,293\n到東京轉到洛杉磯去美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢讓南台灣的鄉親不用很辛苦一定要一早跑到桃園機場才有機會飛出去而是有機會從南台灣可以直接飛出可以嗎院長\n\n37\n00:13:36,035 --> 00:13:53,833\n是的我們在推動台灣南北雙空港就桃園機場跟這個小港機場那小港機場今年的七月委員已經秀出來了我們將可以有一個向美國的航班那同時它向其他地方的航班也會持續的增加同時部長也應該在規劃當中一個\n\n38\n00:13:55,885 --> 00:14:16,168\n比較大型的客機能夠在香港機場起降就大型的客機要持續拉來高雄不要只是這個中型的另外是航班航點持續增加很多委員大家都在努力那另外是飛往歐洲或者飛往美國這一塊也希望持續的來推動歐洲的部分部長有沒有初步的規劃飛往歐洲的\n\n39\n00:14:16,828 --> 00:14:37,282\n市場有這樣的需求我們也是朝這個方向在爭取目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中也跟航空公司在溝通當中我們朝這個方向來努力希望盡快有好消息讓高雄南台灣的鄉親飛往美國飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式不用一大清早要趕到桃園去做那個\n\n40\n00:14:37,842 --> 00:14:56,490\n那最後一個是高雄那裡有個小長機場也在我的選區內啦但小長機場它的唯一就是因為周邊是住戶啦所以它有宵禁的問題你半夜兩三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大那我們看到了不管是東京的這個羽田機場跟成田機場或者是這個首爾的一樣有兩個機場國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場\n\n41\n00:15:00,071 --> 00:15:26,071\n高雄有沒有可能也再來提早規劃未來有個南興的海上機場24小時起降的機場讓南台灣的發展能夠更加的便利北部一樣有桃園機場跟蘇安機場相當的便利有沒有機會讓南部一樣有個南興機場海上機場讓它更安全更便利請院長跟部長長期來一直在解決高雄這種航管啊飛航區域的問題所以現在是說2032年2040年兩階段先把小港機場\n\n42\n00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:39,725\n好謝謝賴慧龍委的資訊謝謝卓院長跟部會首長的備訓\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1873\t3361\t謝謝院長 請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選\n21923\t41329\t院長辛苦了首先昨天看到總統有提出了這個國安會議我認為其實這是民主的台灣面對專制中國甚至有統一企圖所必須做的一個行動所必須面對的行動院長怎麼看待總統昨天的這樣的一個國安會議當我們在面對這種境外的敵對的勢力\n48217\t60722\t持續對台灣的國家安全有重大的威脅而且在國內我們發現他不僅對一般的國人他對軍人現役的軍人都有進行相當深入的滲透這個時候身為國家領導人總統\n63863\t91385\t如果沒有啟動一個有效的機制當國家的安全將會受到更大更大的傷害所以我認為總統在適時而且提出這樣一個緊縮性的只針對現役軍人在他的軍事犯罪行為也就是叛亂有洩密有立敵有廢辭職務還有其他的情況才有辦法用軍事審判那這個是特定對象的特定行為他已經限縮了\n92125\t118170\t所以在這個情況底下對一般的國人甚至對所有的軍人國人的人權跟軍中的人權都不會做任何的傷害我想這幾年來這些的狀況越來越多了穩功武嚇甚至共諜的滲透越來越多那我認為其實這是民主台灣在面對專制中國一個到後來必須要面對的讓全世界都在面對專制中國的這些手段台灣作為民主陣營的第一線而且是\n118570\t137295\t他有統一的企圖的時候我們更應該提高我們的所有的一些防禦的能力這個才能確保我們自由民主的生活確保我們的台灣的下一代還能保有我們自由民主的生活院長應該同意這樣的看法吧是的那我再請教院長那接下來行政院有哪些需要配合總統這些作為要來推動的我們有十幾項的\n141052\t166091\t包括修法包括立法都一一的要來做一個處理我看到有相當法律要來做推動院長多久時間會來提出來把這些修法提出來在昨天的會議上面我說了在總統的裁釋之後我們就會依照總統裁釋的內容由各部會就他自己訂定行動的方案或是各種的策略但是要有專案來執行第二個\n166670\t194553\t要定期來考核而且要限期來完成院長這些都有實效性什麼時候會提出來一個完整就是把大家的各個需要修法的方案提出來而且這個昨天總統的才事經過一天我想各部會正在緊密的作業過去都有做一些準備那目前還要做一些橫向的聯繫包括國防部 陸委會內政部都要有一些相關一個月 三個月還是要多久時間院長認為應該多久時間盡速把它提出這些修正我覺得一個月我們會把整套計畫都做出來\n194753\t211874\t用一個月的方式來努力來做出來因為這個是有相當的急迫性的我們希望一個月的時間再不會盤點提出來只是修法應該相當的快至少提出來然後讓國人清楚知道整體的配合總統的修法方向出來謝謝 再回想一下今天民調也有出來了對於總預算的部分\n214036\t228031\t亂砍亂山的部分有53人認為是不適當國人認為不適當只有27人是認為適當而已所以有過半數的民意其實是確實對於這樣亂砍亂山是不認同的那接下來院長接下來我們會提出什麼樣的動作會進行釋憲嗎\n230492\t259712\t很抱歉 因為我們也知道這樣的狀況但是如果我們回到大嶽的場景很多部位首長在這裡是沒有辦法把政策說明清楚的除非像我們前兩天我們主計長他才能夠很清楚把數字說得清楚但說的過程我想也不見得每個都懂所以院長 釋憲會提嗎釋憲會提出來嗎釋憲當然是我們現在合法合憲的憲法救濟程序之一種所以釋憲會提然後另外也會跟人民做說明是這樣嗎\n261523\t275311\t會向國人去做正面的報告院長 那這個黨部辦的這八場的部分院長都會親自出席嗎我們現在就比較近期的我們有列入行程有列入行程\n276260\t303593\t那院長那為什麼需要院長親自站出來這個其實並不是一個這個過去來其實不多見顯然這個行政院遇到相當大一個挑戰所以才要親自院長要親自站出來跟人民做說明因為捍衛今年度的中央政府總預算我想行政院我們責無旁貸必須向國人說明在這個中央政府總預算如果合理的執行底下國家會有什麼樣的全面的發展\n304013\t329685\t但如果受到這樣的一個不合理的刪減那多少計畫會因此受影響同時在對財化法方面把中央3753億的經費預算挪到地方去稅率挪到地方去會造成中央多少的財政的空虛這一點的部分我必須也向國人說清楚未來在落實地方自治的精神底下該地方政府來自應的就地方政府自應該中央來負責的就中央來負責\n330553\t349698\t我也認為到了這個時間點確實作為最高的行政首長也有責任跟人民說清楚當在立法院沒有機會被講清楚的時候那透過地方上不管是民團或者是其他的邀請的方式跟人民做更清楚的說明讓人民更清楚到底發生了什麼事我認為這也是行政院長的職責啦院長應該同意這樣的看法嗎\n350578\t373488\t好 那我接下來想請教一下高雄這次的重災區在這次的茶葉板的修正幾乎是被六度裡面是增幅最少增幅最少相較於台北增加了416億高雄只增加245億所以還有很多人得意而言說奧威赫拿了245億但是沒有講到是3700多億被拿掉之後未來有一半的錢是補助不下去的所以\n373888\t400741\t等同今年本來高雄也許有機會拿到700億的一個補助款只剩350億所以實質上面最弱高雄實質上減少了100億是全台灣最大的重災區所以我認為這個怎麼能不說明就是這樣的狀況其實重北輕南甚至重南輕綠的狀況我認為應該要去改變所以為什麼人民這麼不滿這一次的從民調看來這麼不滿顯然人民也看到這個問題這樣的做法絕對不是台灣長治久安的做法\n401701\t429200\t我現在倒回來問 院長能不能還是請你持續的支持區域均衡發展特別對於中南部的建設還是要大力去支持院長可以承諾嗎當然在總統的理念底下均衡台灣所衍生出來的台灣六大區域治理計畫這是今年度開始要執行的即使在這樣的一個總預算跟財劃法這樣的不合理的調整底下我們還是要衡量所有的財政\n430020\t449446\t把集中財政可行的範圍在可以的地方先行來開始中南部的鄉親很支持政府也不斷的在供電也支持甚至於各項產業全力支持我也希望中央一樣持續支持中南部這些鄉親們他們需要的建設還是希望中央群職我先問一下\n450066\t470366\t大林埔千春從2019年10月8號合訂到現在已經過5年多了院長可不可以加快速度在今年底讓他開始能夠登記讓整個環評跟都市計畫程序加快一點讓今年底已經過了5年多了快要6年了真的相當長的時間能不能盡快給大林埔鄉親們一個明確的答案在今年底開始來做登記\n471067\t486801\t最後包括他的一些安置的一些類設宅的一些規劃經濟部跟內政部我知道已經達成了相當的協議可以往這個方向來執行那這個例子我們就在大陸這個地方來做一個實施但是我想\n487862\t512760\t直施的時間我會把它拉的進來因為這個大臨普的千春計畫還會牽到其他周遭的南西計畫等等這個是牽扯這是一個對國家非常重要的計畫對鄉親也很重要對國家競爭力發展都很重要的計畫我希望院長持續緊盯這個計畫我希望能夠在今年底前有一個比較明確的答案讓鄉親已經等了五年多快六年了能夠做一個登記好不好朝這個方向努力好不好\n513507\t514749\t我們現在會加速辦理環平莊環平過了以後我想就是會開始辦理千村\n527261\t556981\t好不好 院長請努力朝年底 今年年底前來朝這個方向好嗎好的好 謝謝院長再來其實高雄的很多的交通建設跟產業建設都需要院裡面的大力的支持那我想問的是國道7號這個拖了13年貨櫃車基本上都在這邊跑的非常的影響到人民的生命安全院長拖了13年能不能再趕一下在明年的6月來如期開工這個是當時的開工日期是明年6月能不能如期來開工院長能不能朝這個方向來努力\n558282\t572435\t跟委員報告之前會拖延是因為土地徵收的問題那目前土地徵收看起來次序上應該是可以所以我們希望明年的六月可以來準時開工所以明年六月如期來開工我們希望院長跟部長都盯緊這個程序這一條對高雄對鄉親們都很重要\n577219\t605018\t在平面道路跑然後造成很多的重大的死亡車禍A1死亡車禍在沿海路上面常常就是因為是貨櫃車跟轎車而發生的所以我們希望這樣的悲劇不再發生那國道七號本來就配合第七貨櫃中心應該要一起來啟用了七櫃已經開始啟用了但是國道七號連動工還沒動動工完還要興建五到六年的時間我們希望加速至少明年六月先動工讓人民感受到政府的效率好不好請院長部長來大力支持好 我們來努力\n605879\t616674\t再要請教一下高雄的紫線現在也全力在推了那當然這是一個新的線路那院長能不能大力支持在今年以前能夠給予一個比較明確的支持\n618935\t646465\t來 子縣的部分目前是在可行性研究的階段那這個部分我們來加速進行我知道已經進行可行性那已經可行性完了之後當然就有接下來要不要去支持的議題了那我們看到大台北的捷運是一條蓋過一條那我們也希望高雄已經很努力的包括第三條已經在準備要做了那我們希望子縣這一條經過非常多的人口密集區也經過許多的學校我們希望中央盡速來支持\n647065\t674069\t可行性通過之後也希望今年底能夠來核定這些經費繼續支持高雄的交通運輸建設 好嗎好 我們來加速去年底才送到交通部的對 去年底的可行性進來了那今年應該可行性完成接下來就是編列經費的一個程序好不好請院長跟部長再大力來支持再一個是國道1號的跟現在台南高雄常常塞得很厲害啦如果有在跑就知道因為高雄是南北向的\n674389\t698212\t那我們看到其實台北做得已經很好從汐止到五股到陽梅現在要做到頭份了一整條非常的便利一個高架的讓整個舒緩交通而高雄現在從市區到這個岡山甚至到台南是塞得很嚴重上下班時間塞得很嚴重假日前更嚴重我希望能夠啟動這個高架道路的系統如同北台灣的這個高架系統一樣舒緩讓穿越性的車流\n698692\t720950\t直接能夠不要在下面堵在一起這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能夠來規劃朝這個方向來規劃國一 國七它有一個連關性 部長來答是 報告委員國七我們加速來推動國七如果完成之後其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助但國一的部分確實那一段非常的塞不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成黨土牆\n722191\t730816\t所以他如果是要做高價的話會有影響到一些民房跟一些中修的問題但這個部分可不可以請部長先做規劃了好不好因為國新比較偏東邊他離市區上比較遠那因為\n737079\t765231\t因為高雄因為左邊最左邊遇到有軍港跟這個的影響所以它變成不像台六四一能夠那麼暢通所以變成南北現在主要道路就是在國一那國一如果能夠比照像北台灣這樣子能夠有高架道路的話它基本上就會讓整個市區的車流會方便很多啦那我希望我們的建設都走在前端現在雍設已經出現了如果我們能提早來做規劃的話對於十年二十年後的這個下一代子孫他們的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助\n765951\t780528\t我希望能夠提早來規劃好不好北部的從這個汐止做到現在已經做到頭份了苗栗的頭份了已經做到苗栗頭份我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動讓兩大都會區的未來的交通更加的便利好不好謝謝院長先優先來規劃\n783311\t796106\t在高雄機場其實是台灣第二大的國際機場但現在很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線但我們一直增加更多的日本啊其他的航線那美國的今年7月有機會從台灣到日本\n798408\t815293\t到東京轉到洛杉磯去美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢讓南台灣的鄉親不用很辛苦一定要一早跑到桃園機場才有機會飛出去而是有機會從南台灣可以直接飛出可以嗎 院長\n816035\t833833\t是的 我們在推動台灣南北雙空港就桃園機場跟這個小港機場那小港機場今年的七月委員已經秀出來了我們將可以有一個向美國的航班那同時它向其他地方的航班也會持續的增加同時部長也應該在規劃當中一個\n835885\t856168\t比較大型的客機能夠在香港機場起降就大型的客機要持續拉來高雄不要只是這個中型的另外是航班航點持續增加很多委員大家都在努力那另外是飛往歐洲或者飛往美國這一塊也希望持續的來推動歐洲的部分部長有沒有初步的規劃飛往歐洲的\n856828\t877282\t市場有這樣的需求我們也是朝這個方向在爭取目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中也跟航空公司在溝通當中我們朝這個方向來努力希望盡快有好消息讓高雄南台灣的鄉親飛往美國飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式不用一大清早要趕到桃園去做那個\n877842\t896490\t那最後一個是高雄那裡有個小長機場也在我的選區內啦但小長機場它的唯一就是因為周邊是住戶啦所以它有宵禁的問題你半夜兩三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大那我們看到了不管是東京的這個羽田機場跟成田機場或者是這個首爾的一樣有兩個機場國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場\n900071\t926071\t高雄有沒有可能也再來提早規劃未來有個南興的海上機場24小時起降的機場讓南台灣的發展能夠更加的便利北部一樣有桃園機場跟蘇安機場相當的便利有沒有機會讓南部一樣有個南興機場海上機場讓它更安全更便利請院長跟部長長期來一直在解決高雄這種航管啊飛航區域的問題所以現在是說2032年2040年兩階段先把小港機場\n938063\t939725\t好 謝謝賴慧龍委的資訊謝謝卓院長跟部會首長的備訓\n","txt":"謝謝院長 請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選\n院長辛苦了首先昨天看到總統有提出了這個國安會議我認為其實這是民主的台灣面對專制中國甚至有統一企圖所必須做的一個行動所必須面對的行動院長怎麼看待總統昨天的這樣的一個國安會議當我們在面對這種境外的敵對的勢力\n持續對台灣的國家安全有重大的威脅而且在國內我們發現他不僅對一般的國人他對軍人現役的軍人都有進行相當深入的滲透這個時候身為國家領導人總統\n如果沒有啟動一個有效的機制當國家的安全將會受到更大更大的傷害所以我認為總統在適時而且提出這樣一個緊縮性的只針對現役軍人在他的軍事犯罪行為也就是叛亂有洩密有立敵有廢辭職務還有其他的情況才有辦法用軍事審判那這個是特定對象的特定行為他已經限縮了\n所以在這個情況底下對一般的國人甚至對所有的軍人國人的人權跟軍中的人權都不會做任何的傷害我想這幾年來這些的狀況越來越多了穩功武嚇甚至共諜的滲透越來越多那我認為其實這是民主台灣在面對專制中國一個到後來必須要面對的讓全世界都在面對專制中國的這些手段台灣作為民主陣營的第一線而且是\n他有統一的企圖的時候我們更應該提高我們的所有的一些防禦的能力這個才能確保我們自由民主的生活確保我們的台灣的下一代還能保有我們自由民主的生活院長應該同意這樣的看法吧是的那我再請教院長那接下來行政院有哪些需要配合總統這些作為要來推動的我們有十幾項的\n包括修法包括立法都一一的要來做一個處理我看到有相當法律要來做推動院長多久時間會來提出來把這些修法提出來在昨天的會議上面我說了在總統的裁釋之後我們就會依照總統裁釋的內容由各部會就他自己訂定行動的方案或是各種的策略但是要有專案來執行第二個\n要定期來考核而且要限期來完成院長這些都有實效性什麼時候會提出來一個完整就是把大家的各個需要修法的方案提出來而且這個昨天總統的才事經過一天我想各部會正在緊密的作業過去都有做一些準備那目前還要做一些橫向的聯繫包括國防部 陸委會內政部都要有一些相關一個月 三個月還是要多久時間院長認為應該多久時間盡速把它提出這些修正我覺得一個月我們會把整套計畫都做出來\n用一個月的方式來努力來做出來因為這個是有相當的急迫性的我們希望一個月的時間再不會盤點提出來只是修法應該相當的快至少提出來然後讓國人清楚知道整體的配合總統的修法方向出來謝謝 再回想一下今天民調也有出來了對於總預算的部分\n亂砍亂山的部分有53人認為是不適當國人認為不適當只有27人是認為適當而已所以有過半數的民意其實是確實對於這樣亂砍亂山是不認同的那接下來院長接下來我們會提出什麼樣的動作會進行釋憲嗎\n很抱歉 因為我們也知道這樣的狀況但是如果我們回到大嶽的場景很多部位首長在這裡是沒有辦法把政策說明清楚的除非像我們前兩天我們主計長他才能夠很清楚把數字說得清楚但說的過程我想也不見得每個都懂所以院長 釋憲會提嗎釋憲會提出來嗎釋憲當然是我們現在合法合憲的憲法救濟程序之一種所以釋憲會提然後另外也會跟人民做說明是這樣嗎\n會向國人去做正面的報告院長 那這個黨部辦的這八場的部分院長都會親自出席嗎我們現在就比較近期的我們有列入行程有列入行程\n那院長那為什麼需要院長親自站出來這個其實並不是一個這個過去來其實不多見顯然這個行政院遇到相當大一個挑戰所以才要親自院長要親自站出來跟人民做說明因為捍衛今年度的中央政府總預算我想行政院我們責無旁貸必須向國人說明在這個中央政府總預算如果合理的執行底下國家會有什麼樣的全面的發展\n但如果受到這樣的一個不合理的刪減那多少計畫會因此受影響同時在對財化法方面把中央3753億的經費預算挪到地方去稅率挪到地方去會造成中央多少的財政的空虛這一點的部分我必須也向國人說清楚未來在落實地方自治的精神底下該地方政府來自應的就地方政府自應該中央來負責的就中央來負責\n我也認為到了這個時間點確實作為最高的行政首長也有責任跟人民說清楚當在立法院沒有機會被講清楚的時候那透過地方上不管是民團或者是其他的邀請的方式跟人民做更清楚的說明讓人民更清楚到底發生了什麼事我認為這也是行政院長的職責啦院長應該同意這樣的看法嗎\n好 那我接下來想請教一下高雄這次的重災區在這次的茶葉板的修正幾乎是被六度裡面是增幅最少增幅最少相較於台北增加了416億高雄只增加245億所以還有很多人得意而言說奧威赫拿了245億但是沒有講到是3700多億被拿掉之後未來有一半的錢是補助不下去的所以\n等同今年本來高雄也許有機會拿到700億的一個補助款只剩350億所以實質上面最弱高雄實質上減少了100億是全台灣最大的重災區所以我認為這個怎麼能不說明就是這樣的狀況其實重北輕南甚至重南輕綠的狀況我認為應該要去改變所以為什麼人民這麼不滿這一次的從民調看來這麼不滿顯然人民也看到這個問題這樣的做法絕對不是台灣長治久安的做法\n我現在倒回來問 院長能不能還是請你持續的支持區域均衡發展特別對於中南部的建設還是要大力去支持院長可以承諾嗎當然在總統的理念底下均衡台灣所衍生出來的台灣六大區域治理計畫這是今年度開始要執行的即使在這樣的一個總預算跟財劃法這樣的不合理的調整底下我們還是要衡量所有的財政\n把集中財政可行的範圍在可以的地方先行來開始中南部的鄉親很支持政府也不斷的在供電也支持甚至於各項產業全力支持我也希望中央一樣持續支持中南部這些鄉親們他們需要的建設還是希望中央群職我先問一下\n大林埔千春從2019年10月8號合訂到現在已經過5年多了院長可不可以加快速度在今年底讓他開始能夠登記讓整個環評跟都市計畫程序加快一點讓今年底已經過了5年多了快要6年了真的相當長的時間能不能盡快給大林埔鄉親們一個明確的答案在今年底開始來做登記\n最後包括他的一些安置的一些類設宅的一些規劃經濟部跟內政部我知道已經達成了相當的協議可以往這個方向來執行那這個例子我們就在大陸這個地方來做一個實施但是我想\n直施的時間我會把它拉的進來因為這個大臨普的千春計畫還會牽到其他周遭的南西計畫等等這個是牽扯這是一個對國家非常重要的計畫對鄉親也很重要對國家競爭力發展都很重要的計畫我希望院長持續緊盯這個計畫我希望能夠在今年底前有一個比較明確的答案讓鄉親已經等了五年多快六年了能夠做一個登記好不好朝這個方向努力好不好\n我們現在會加速辦理環平莊環平過了以後我想就是會開始辦理千村\n好不好 院長請努力朝年底 今年年底前來朝這個方向好嗎好的好 謝謝院長再來其實高雄的很多的交通建設跟產業建設都需要院裡面的大力的支持那我想問的是國道7號這個拖了13年貨櫃車基本上都在這邊跑的非常的影響到人民的生命安全院長拖了13年能不能再趕一下在明年的6月來如期開工這個是當時的開工日期是明年6月能不能如期來開工院長能不能朝這個方向來努力\n跟委員報告之前會拖延是因為土地徵收的問題那目前土地徵收看起來次序上應該是可以所以我們希望明年的六月可以來準時開工所以明年六月如期來開工我們希望院長跟部長都盯緊這個程序這一條對高雄對鄉親們都很重要\n在平面道路跑然後造成很多的重大的死亡車禍A1死亡車禍在沿海路上面常常就是因為是貨櫃車跟轎車而發生的所以我們希望這樣的悲劇不再發生那國道七號本來就配合第七貨櫃中心應該要一起來啟用了七櫃已經開始啟用了但是國道七號連動工還沒動動工完還要興建五到六年的時間我們希望加速至少明年六月先動工讓人民感受到政府的效率好不好請院長部長來大力支持好 我們來努力\n再要請教一下高雄的紫線現在也全力在推了那當然這是一個新的線路那院長能不能大力支持在今年以前能夠給予一個比較明確的支持\n來 子縣的部分目前是在可行性研究的階段那這個部分我們來加速進行我知道已經進行可行性那已經可行性完了之後當然就有接下來要不要去支持的議題了那我們看到大台北的捷運是一條蓋過一條那我們也希望高雄已經很努力的包括第三條已經在準備要做了那我們希望子縣這一條經過非常多的人口密集區也經過許多的學校我們希望中央盡速來支持\n可行性通過之後也希望今年底能夠來核定這些經費繼續支持高雄的交通運輸建設 好嗎好 我們來加速去年底才送到交通部的對 去年底的可行性進來了那今年應該可行性完成接下來就是編列經費的一個程序好不好請院長跟部長再大力來支持再一個是國道1號的跟現在台南高雄常常塞得很厲害啦如果有在跑就知道因為高雄是南北向的\n那我們看到其實台北做得已經很好從汐止到五股到陽梅現在要做到頭份了一整條非常的便利一個高架的讓整個舒緩交通而高雄現在從市區到這個岡山甚至到台南是塞得很嚴重上下班時間塞得很嚴重假日前更嚴重我希望能夠啟動這個高架道路的系統如同北台灣的這個高架系統一樣舒緩讓穿越性的車流\n直接能夠不要在下面堵在一起這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能夠來規劃朝這個方向來規劃國一 國七它有一個連關性 部長來答是 報告委員國七我們加速來推動國七如果完成之後其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助但國一的部分確實那一段非常的塞不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成黨土牆\n所以他如果是要做高價的話會有影響到一些民房跟一些中修的問題但這個部分可不可以請部長先做規劃了好不好因為國新比較偏東邊他離市區上比較遠那因為\n因為高雄因為左邊最左邊遇到有軍港跟這個的影響所以它變成不像台六四一能夠那麼暢通所以變成南北現在主要道路就是在國一那國一如果能夠比照像北台灣這樣子能夠有高架道路的話它基本上就會讓整個市區的車流會方便很多啦那我希望我們的建設都走在前端現在雍設已經出現了如果我們能提早來做規劃的話對於十年二十年後的這個下一代子孫他們的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助\n我希望能夠提早來規劃好不好北部的從這個汐止做到現在已經做到頭份了苗栗的頭份了已經做到苗栗頭份我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動讓兩大都會區的未來的交通更加的便利好不好謝謝院長先優先來規劃\n在高雄機場其實是台灣第二大的國際機場但現在很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線但我們一直增加更多的日本啊其他的航線那美國的今年7月有機會從台灣到日本\n到東京轉到洛杉磯去美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢讓南台灣的鄉親不用很辛苦一定要一早跑到桃園機場才有機會飛出去而是有機會從南台灣可以直接飛出可以嗎 院長\n是的 我們在推動台灣南北雙空港就桃園機場跟這個小港機場那小港機場今年的七月委員已經秀出來了我們將可以有一個向美國的航班那同時它向其他地方的航班也會持續的增加同時部長也應該在規劃當中一個\n比較大型的客機能夠在香港機場起降就大型的客機要持續拉來高雄不要只是這個中型的另外是航班航點持續增加很多委員大家都在努力那另外是飛往歐洲或者飛往美國這一塊也希望持續的來推動歐洲的部分部長有沒有初步的規劃飛往歐洲的\n市場有這樣的需求我們也是朝這個方向在爭取目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中也跟航空公司在溝通當中我們朝這個方向來努力希望盡快有好消息讓高雄南台灣的鄉親飛往美國飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式不用一大清早要趕到桃園去做那個\n那最後一個是高雄那裡有個小長機場也在我的選區內啦但小長機場它的唯一就是因為周邊是住戶啦所以它有宵禁的問題你半夜兩三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大那我們看到了不管是東京的這個羽田機場跟成田機場或者是這個首爾的一樣有兩個機場國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場\n高雄有沒有可能也再來提早規劃未來有個南興的海上機場24小時起降的機場讓南台灣的發展能夠更加的便利北部一樣有桃園機場跟蘇安機場相當的便利有沒有機會讓南部一樣有個南興機場海上機場讓它更安全更便利請院長跟部長長期來一直在解決高雄這種航管啊飛航區域的問題所以現在是說2032年2040年兩階段先把小港機場\n好 謝謝賴慧龍委的資訊謝謝卓院長跟部會首長的備訓\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.873 --> 00:03.361\n謝謝院長請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選\n\n00:21.923 --> 00:41.329\n院長辛苦了首先昨天看到總統有提出了這個國安會議我認為其實這是民主的台灣面對專制中國甚至有統一企圖所必須做的一個行動所必須面對的行動院長怎麼看待總統昨天的這樣的一個國安會議當我們在面對這種境外的敵對的勢力\n\n00:48.217 --> 01:00.722\n持續對台灣的國家安全有重大的威脅而且在國內我們發現他不僅對一般的國人他對軍人現役的軍人都有進行相當深入的滲透這個時候身為國家領導人總統\n\n01:03.863 --> 01:31.385\n如果沒有啟動一個有效的機制當國家的安全將會受到更大更大的傷害所以我認為總統在適時而且提出這樣一個緊縮性的只針對現役軍人在他的軍事犯罪行為也就是叛亂有洩密有立敵有廢辭職務還有其他的情況才有辦法用軍事審判那這個是特定對象的特定行為他已經限縮了\n\n01:32.125 --> 01:58.170\n所以在這個情況底下對一般的國人甚至對所有的軍人國人的人權跟軍中的人權都不會做任何的傷害我想這幾年來這些的狀況越來越多了穩功武嚇甚至共諜的滲透越來越多那我認為其實這是民主台灣在面對專制中國一個到後來必須要面對的讓全世界都在面對專制中國的這些手段台灣作為民主陣營的第一線而且是\n\n01:58.570 --> 02:17.295\n他有統一的企圖的時候我們更應該提高我們的所有的一些防禦的能力這個才能確保我們自由民主的生活確保我們的台灣的下一代還能保有我們自由民主的生活院長應該同意這樣的看法吧是的那我再請教院長那接下來行政院有哪些需要配合總統這些作為要來推動的我們有十幾項的\n\n02:21.052 --> 02:46.091\n包括修法包括立法都一一的要來做一個處理我看到有相當法律要來做推動院長多久時間會來提出來把這些修法提出來在昨天的會議上面我說了在總統的裁釋之後我們就會依照總統裁釋的內容由各部會就他自己訂定行動的方案或是各種的策略但是要有專案來執行第二個\n\n02:46.670 --> 03:14.553\n要定期來考核而且要限期來完成院長這些都有實效性什麼時候會提出來一個完整就是把大家的各個需要修法的方案提出來而且這個昨天總統的才事經過一天我想各部會正在緊密的作業過去都有做一些準備那目前還要做一些橫向的聯繫包括國防部陸委會內政部都要有一些相關一個月三個月還是要多久時間院長認為應該多久時間盡速把它提出這些修正我覺得一個月我們會把整套計畫都做出來\n\n03:14.753 --> 03:31.874\n用一個月的方式來努力來做出來因為這個是有相當的急迫性的我們希望一個月的時間再不會盤點提出來只是修法應該相當的快至少提出來然後讓國人清楚知道整體的配合總統的修法方向出來謝謝再回想一下今天民調也有出來了對於總預算的部分\n\n03:34.036 --> 03:48.031\n亂砍亂山的部分有53人認為是不適當國人認為不適當只有27人是認為適當而已所以有過半數的民意其實是確實對於這樣亂砍亂山是不認同的那接下來院長接下來我們會提出什麼樣的動作會進行釋憲嗎\n\n03:50.492 --> 04:19.712\n很抱歉因為我們也知道這樣的狀況但是如果我們回到大嶽的場景很多部位首長在這裡是沒有辦法把政策說明清楚的除非像我們前兩天我們主計長他才能夠很清楚把數字說得清楚但說的過程我想也不見得每個都懂所以院長釋憲會提嗎釋憲會提出來嗎釋憲當然是我們現在合法合憲的憲法救濟程序之一種所以釋憲會提然後另外也會跟人民做說明是這樣嗎\n\n04:21.523 --> 04:35.311\n會向國人去做正面的報告院長那這個黨部辦的這八場的部分院長都會親自出席嗎我們現在就比較近期的我們有列入行程有列入行程\n\n04:36.260 --> 05:03.593\n那院長那為什麼需要院長親自站出來這個其實並不是一個這個過去來其實不多見顯然這個行政院遇到相當大一個挑戰所以才要親自院長要親自站出來跟人民做說明因為捍衛今年度的中央政府總預算我想行政院我們責無旁貸必須向國人說明在這個中央政府總預算如果合理的執行底下國家會有什麼樣的全面的發展\n\n05:04.013 --> 05:29.685\n但如果受到這樣的一個不合理的刪減那多少計畫會因此受影響同時在對財化法方面把中央3753億的經費預算挪到地方去稅率挪到地方去會造成中央多少的財政的空虛這一點的部分我必須也向國人說清楚未來在落實地方自治的精神底下該地方政府來自應的就地方政府自應該中央來負責的就中央來負責\n\n05:30.553 --> 05:49.698\n我也認為到了這個時間點確實作為最高的行政首長也有責任跟人民說清楚當在立法院沒有機會被講清楚的時候那透過地方上不管是民團或者是其他的邀請的方式跟人民做更清楚的說明讓人民更清楚到底發生了什麼事我認為這也是行政院長的職責啦院長應該同意這樣的看法嗎\n\n05:50.578 --> 06:13.488\n好那我接下來想請教一下高雄這次的重災區在這次的茶葉板的修正幾乎是被六度裡面是增幅最少增幅最少相較於台北增加了416億高雄只增加245億所以還有很多人得意而言說奧威赫拿了245億但是沒有講到是3700多億被拿掉之後未來有一半的錢是補助不下去的所以\n\n06:13.888 --> 06:40.741\n等同今年本來高雄也許有機會拿到700億的一個補助款只剩350億所以實質上面最弱高雄實質上減少了100億是全台灣最大的重災區所以我認為這個怎麼能不說明就是這樣的狀況其實重北輕南甚至重南輕綠的狀況我認為應該要去改變所以為什麼人民這麼不滿這一次的從民調看來這麼不滿顯然人民也看到這個問題這樣的做法絕對不是台灣長治久安的做法\n\n06:41.701 --> 07:09.200\n我現在倒回來問院長能不能還是請你持續的支持區域均衡發展特別對於中南部的建設還是要大力去支持院長可以承諾嗎當然在總統的理念底下均衡台灣所衍生出來的台灣六大區域治理計畫這是今年度開始要執行的即使在這樣的一個總預算跟財劃法這樣的不合理的調整底下我們還是要衡量所有的財政\n\n07:10.020 --> 07:29.446\n把集中財政可行的範圍在可以的地方先行來開始中南部的鄉親很支持政府也不斷的在供電也支持甚至於各項產業全力支持我也希望中央一樣持續支持中南部這些鄉親們他們需要的建設還是希望中央群職我先問一下\n\n07:30.066 --> 07:50.366\n大林埔千春從2019年10月8號合訂到現在已經過5年多了院長可不可以加快速度在今年底讓他開始能夠登記讓整個環評跟都市計畫程序加快一點讓今年底已經過了5年多了快要6年了真的相當長的時間能不能盡快給大林埔鄉親們一個明確的答案在今年底開始來做登記\n\n07:51.067 --> 08:06.801\n最後包括他的一些安置的一些類設宅的一些規劃經濟部跟內政部我知道已經達成了相當的協議可以往這個方向來執行那這個例子我們就在大陸這個地方來做一個實施但是我想\n\n08:07.862 --> 08:32.760\n直施的時間我會把它拉的進來因為這個大臨普的千春計畫還會牽到其他周遭的南西計畫等等這個是牽扯這是一個對國家非常重要的計畫對鄉親也很重要對國家競爭力發展都很重要的計畫我希望院長持續緊盯這個計畫我希望能夠在今年底前有一個比較明確的答案讓鄉親已經等了五年多快六年了能夠做一個登記好不好朝這個方向努力好不好\n\n08:33.507 --> 08:34.749\n我們現在會加速辦理環平莊環平過了以後我想就是會開始辦理千村\n\n08:47.261 --> 09:16.981\n好不好院長請努力朝年底今年年底前來朝這個方向好嗎好的好謝謝院長再來其實高雄的很多的交通建設跟產業建設都需要院裡面的大力的支持那我想問的是國道7號這個拖了13年貨櫃車基本上都在這邊跑的非常的影響到人民的生命安全院長拖了13年能不能再趕一下在明年的6月來如期開工這個是當時的開工日期是明年6月能不能如期來開工院長能不能朝這個方向來努力\n\n09:18.282 --> 09:32.435\n跟委員報告之前會拖延是因為土地徵收的問題那目前土地徵收看起來次序上應該是可以所以我們希望明年的六月可以來準時開工所以明年六月如期來開工我們希望院長跟部長都盯緊這個程序這一條對高雄對鄉親們都很重要\n\n09:37.219 --> 10:05.018\n在平面道路跑然後造成很多的重大的死亡車禍A1死亡車禍在沿海路上面常常就是因為是貨櫃車跟轎車而發生的所以我們希望這樣的悲劇不再發生那國道七號本來就配合第七貨櫃中心應該要一起來啟用了七櫃已經開始啟用了但是國道七號連動工還沒動動工完還要興建五到六年的時間我們希望加速至少明年六月先動工讓人民感受到政府的效率好不好請院長部長來大力支持好我們來努力\n\n10:05.879 --> 10:16.674\n再要請教一下高雄的紫線現在也全力在推了那當然這是一個新的線路那院長能不能大力支持在今年以前能夠給予一個比較明確的支持\n\n10:18.935 --> 10:46.465\n來子縣的部分目前是在可行性研究的階段那這個部分我們來加速進行我知道已經進行可行性那已經可行性完了之後當然就有接下來要不要去支持的議題了那我們看到大台北的捷運是一條蓋過一條那我們也希望高雄已經很努力的包括第三條已經在準備要做了那我們希望子縣這一條經過非常多的人口密集區也經過許多的學校我們希望中央盡速來支持\n\n10:47.065 --> 11:14.069\n可行性通過之後也希望今年底能夠來核定這些經費繼續支持高雄的交通運輸建設好嗎好我們來加速去年底才送到交通部的對去年底的可行性進來了那今年應該可行性完成接下來就是編列經費的一個程序好不好請院長跟部長再大力來支持再一個是國道1號的跟現在台南高雄常常塞得很厲害啦如果有在跑就知道因為高雄是南北向的\n\n11:14.389 --> 11:38.212\n那我們看到其實台北做得已經很好從汐止到五股到陽梅現在要做到頭份了一整條非常的便利一個高架的讓整個舒緩交通而高雄現在從市區到這個岡山甚至到台南是塞得很嚴重上下班時間塞得很嚴重假日前更嚴重我希望能夠啟動這個高架道路的系統如同北台灣的這個高架系統一樣舒緩讓穿越性的車流\n\n11:38.692 --> 12:00.950\n直接能夠不要在下面堵在一起這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能夠來規劃朝這個方向來規劃國一國七它有一個連關性部長來答是報告委員國七我們加速來推動國七如果完成之後其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助但國一的部分確實那一段非常的塞不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成黨土牆\n\n12:02.191 --> 12:10.816\n所以他如果是要做高價的話會有影響到一些民房跟一些中修的問題但這個部分可不可以請部長先做規劃了好不好因為國新比較偏東邊他離市區上比較遠那因為\n\n12:17.079 --> 12:45.231\n因為高雄因為左邊最左邊遇到有軍港跟這個的影響所以它變成不像台六四一能夠那麼暢通所以變成南北現在主要道路就是在國一那國一如果能夠比照像北台灣這樣子能夠有高架道路的話它基本上就會讓整個市區的車流會方便很多啦那我希望我們的建設都走在前端現在雍設已經出現了如果我們能提早來做規劃的話對於十年二十年後的這個下一代子孫他們的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助\n\n12:45.951 --> 13:00.528\n我希望能夠提早來規劃好不好北部的從這個汐止做到現在已經做到頭份了苗栗的頭份了已經做到苗栗頭份我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動讓兩大都會區的未來的交通更加的便利好不好謝謝院長先優先來規劃\n\n13:03.311 --> 13:16.106\n在高雄機場其實是台灣第二大的國際機場但現在很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線但我們一直增加更多的日本啊其他的航線那美國的今年7月有機會從台灣到日本\n\n13:18.408 --> 13:35.293\n到東京轉到洛杉磯去美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢讓南台灣的鄉親不用很辛苦一定要一早跑到桃園機場才有機會飛出去而是有機會從南台灣可以直接飛出可以嗎院長\n\n13:36.035 --> 13:53.833\n是的我們在推動台灣南北雙空港就桃園機場跟這個小港機場那小港機場今年的七月委員已經秀出來了我們將可以有一個向美國的航班那同時它向其他地方的航班也會持續的增加同時部長也應該在規劃當中一個\n\n13:55.885 --> 14:16.168\n比較大型的客機能夠在香港機場起降就大型的客機要持續拉來高雄不要只是這個中型的另外是航班航點持續增加很多委員大家都在努力那另外是飛往歐洲或者飛往美國這一塊也希望持續的來推動歐洲的部分部長有沒有初步的規劃飛往歐洲的\n\n14:16.828 --> 14:37.282\n市場有這樣的需求我們也是朝這個方向在爭取目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中也跟航空公司在溝通當中我們朝這個方向來努力希望盡快有好消息讓高雄南台灣的鄉親飛往美國飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式不用一大清早要趕到桃園去做那個\n\n14:37.842 --> 14:56.490\n那最後一個是高雄那裡有個小長機場也在我的選區內啦但小長機場它的唯一就是因為周邊是住戶啦所以它有宵禁的問題你半夜兩三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大那我們看到了不管是東京的這個羽田機場跟成田機場或者是這個首爾的一樣有兩個機場國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場\n\n15:00.071 --> 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去年底的可行性進來了那今年應該可行性完成接下來就是編列經費的一個程序好不好請院長跟部長再大力來支持再一個是國道1號的跟現在台南高雄常常塞得很厲害啦如果有在跑就知道因為高雄是南北向的"},{"start":674.389,"end":698.212,"text":"那我們看到其實台北做得已經很好從汐止到五股到陽梅現在要做到頭份了一整條非常的便利一個高架的讓整個舒緩交通而高雄現在從市區到這個岡山甚至到台南是塞得很嚴重上下班時間塞得很嚴重假日前更嚴重我希望能夠啟動這個高架道路的系統如同北台灣的這個高架系統一樣舒緩讓穿越性的車流"},{"start":698.692,"end":720.95,"text":"直接能夠不要在下面堵在一起這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能夠來規劃朝這個方向來規劃國一 國七它有一個連關性 部長來答是 報告委員國七我們加速來推動國七如果完成之後其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助但國一的部分確實那一段非常的塞不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成黨土牆"},{"start":722.191,"end":730.816,"text":"所以他如果是要做高價的話會有影響到一些民房跟一些中修的問題但這個部分可不可以請部長先做規劃了好不好因為國新比較偏東邊他離市區上比較遠那因為"},{"start":737.079,"end":765.231,"text":"因為高雄因為左邊最左邊遇到有軍港跟這個的影響所以它變成不像台六四一能夠那麼暢通所以變成南北現在主要道路就是在國一那國一如果能夠比照像北台灣這樣子能夠有高架道路的話它基本上就會讓整個市區的車流會方便很多啦那我希望我們的建設都走在前端現在雍設已經出現了如果我們能提早來做規劃的話對於十年二十年後的這個下一代子孫他們的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助"},{"start":765.951,"end":780.528,"text":"我希望能夠提早來規劃好不好北部的從這個汐止做到現在已經做到頭份了苗栗的頭份了已經做到苗栗頭份我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動讓兩大都會區的未來的交通更加的便利好不好謝謝院長先優先來規劃"},{"start":783.311,"end":796.106,"text":"在高雄機場其實是台灣第二大的國際機場但現在很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線但我們一直增加更多的日本啊其他的航線那美國的今年7月有機會從台灣到日本"},{"start":798.408,"end":815.293,"text":"到東京轉到洛杉磯去美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢讓南台灣的鄉親不用很辛苦一定要一早跑到桃園機場才有機會飛出去而是有機會從南台灣可以直接飛出可以嗎 院長"},{"start":816.035,"end":833.833,"text":"是的 我們在推動台灣南北雙空港就桃園機場跟這個小港機場那小港機場今年的七月委員已經秀出來了我們將可以有一個向美國的航班那同時它向其他地方的航班也會持續的增加同時部長也應該在規劃當中一個"},{"start":835.885,"end":856.168,"text":"比較大型的客機能夠在香港機場起降就大型的客機要持續拉來高雄不要只是這個中型的另外是航班航點持續增加很多委員大家都在努力那另外是飛往歐洲或者飛往美國這一塊也希望持續的來推動歐洲的部分部長有沒有初步的規劃飛往歐洲的"},{"start":856.828,"end":877.282,"text":"市場有這樣的需求我們也是朝這個方向在爭取目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中也跟航空公司在溝通當中我們朝這個方向來努力希望盡快有好消息讓高雄南台灣的鄉親飛往美國飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式不用一大清早要趕到桃園去做那個"},{"start":877.842,"end":896.49,"text":"那最後一個是高雄那裡有個小長機場也在我的選區內啦但小長機場它的唯一就是因為周邊是住戶啦所以它有宵禁的問題你半夜兩三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大那我們看到了不管是東京的這個羽田機場跟成田機場或者是這個首爾的一樣有兩個機場國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場"},{"start":900.071,"end":926.071,"text":"高雄有沒有可能也再來提早規劃未來有個南興的海上機場24小時起降的機場讓南台灣的發展能夠更加的便利北部一樣有桃園機場跟蘇安機場相當的便利有沒有機會讓南部一樣有個南興機場海上機場讓它更安全更便利請院長跟部長長期來一直在解決高雄這種航管啊飛航區域的問題所以現在是說2032年2040年兩階段先把小港機場"},{"start":938.063,"end":939.725,"text":"好 謝謝賴慧龍委的資訊謝謝卓院長跟部會首長的備訓"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":1064,"blocks":[["賴委員瑞隆：（11時50分）好，謝謝院長。請卓院長。"],["主席：麻煩再請卓院長備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：賴委員好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長辛苦了。院長，首先，昨天看到總統有提出了國安會議，我認為其實這是民主的臺灣面對專制中國，甚至有統一企圖所必須做的一個行動、所必須面對的一個行動。院長怎麼看待總統昨天這樣一個國安會議？"],["卓院長榮泰：當我們在面對這種境外的、敵對的勢力持續對臺灣國家安全有重大的威脅，而且在國內，我們發現，它不僅對一般國人，它對軍人、現役的軍人，都有進行相當深度的滲透，這個時候，身為國家領導人──總統，如果沒有啟動一個有效的機制，國家的安全將會受到更大、更大的傷害，所以我認為總統在適時，而且提出這樣一個緊縮性，只針對現役軍人在他的軍事犯罪行為，也就是判亂、有洩密、有利敵、有廢弛職務，還有其他情況，才有辦法用軍事審判，這個是特定對象的特定行為，它已經限縮了，所以在這個情況底下，對一般的國人，甚至對所有軍人、國人的人權跟軍中的人權，都不會做任何的傷害。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我想這幾年來，這些狀況越來越多──文攻武嚇，甚至共諜的滲透越來越多。我認為其實這是民主臺灣在面對專制中國，到後來必須要面對，然後全世界都在面對專制中國的這些手段，臺灣做為民主陣營的第一線，而且是它有統一企圖的時候，我們更應該提高我們所有的防禦能力，這個才能確保我們自由民主的生活，確保我們臺灣的下一代還能保有自由民主的生活，院長應該同意這樣的看法吧？"],["卓院長榮泰：是的。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我再請教院長，接下來行政院有哪些需要配合總統這些作為要來推動的？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們有十幾項，包括修法、包括立法，都一一要來做一個處理。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我看到有相當法律要推動，院長，多久時間會把這些修法提出來？"],["卓院長榮泰：昨天的會議上面我說了，在總統的裁示之後，我們就會依照總統裁示的內容，由各部會就它自己訂定的行動方案或是各種策略，但是要有專案來執行。第二個，要定期考核，而且要限期完成。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長，這些都有時效性，什麼時候會把大家各個需要修法的方案提出來？"],["卓院長榮泰：昨天總統的裁示，經過一天，我想各部會正在緊密的作業，過去都有做一些準備，目前還要做一些橫向的聯繫，包括國防部、陸委會、內政部，都要有一些相關的……"],["賴委員瑞隆：一個月？三個月？還是要多久時間？院長認為應該要多久時間儘速提出這些修正？"],["卓院長榮泰：我覺得一個月我們會把整套計畫都做出來。"],["賴委員瑞隆：用一個月的方式努力做出來。"],["卓院長榮泰：把整套計畫做出來。"],["賴委員瑞隆：因為這個是有相當急迫性的。"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我們希望一個月的時間各部會盤點提出來。"],["卓院長榮泰：可以。"],["賴委員瑞隆：只是修法，應該相當的快。"],["卓院長榮泰：是，可以。"],["賴委員瑞隆：至少提出來，然後讓國人清楚知道整體配合總統的修法方向出來。"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：再來我想請教，今天的民調也有出來，對於總預算濫砍、亂刪的部分，有53%的國人認為不適當，只有27%認為適當而已，所以有過半數的民意確實對於這樣亂砍、亂刪是不認同的。院長，接下來我們會提出什麼樣的動作？會進行釋憲嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：是，很抱歉，因為我們也知道這樣的狀況，但是如果我們回到大院的場景，很多部會首長在這裡是沒有辦法把政策說明清楚的，除非像前兩天我們主計長才能夠把一些數字說得清楚，但說的過程，我想也不見得每個都懂……"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長，釋憲會提出來嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：釋憲當然是我們現在合法合憲的憲法救濟程序之一種。"],["賴委員瑞隆：所以釋憲會提，另外也會跟人民做說明，是這樣嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：會向國人做正面的報告。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長，黨部辦這8場的部分，院長都會親自出席嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：現在就比較近期的有列入行程。"],["賴委員瑞隆：有列入行程。那為什麼需要院長親自站出來？這個過去其實並不多見，顯然行政院遇到相當大的挑戰，所以院長才要親自站出來跟人民做說明。"],["卓院長榮泰：因為捍衛今年度的中央政府總預算，我想行政院責無旁貸必須向國人說明，在中央政府總預算如果在合理執行底下，國家會有什麼樣的全面發展，但如果受到這樣不合理的刪減，那多少計畫會因此受影響。同時在對財劃法方面，把中央3,753億的經費預算挪到地方去、歲入挪到地方去，會造成中央多少財政的空虛，這一點我必須也向國人說清楚，未來在落實地方自治的精神底下，該地方政府來支應的就地方政府支應；該中央來負責的就中央來負責。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我也認為到了這個時間點，確實作為最高的行政首長也有責任跟人民說清楚，當在立法院沒有機會可以清楚的時候，那透過地方上不管是民團或其他邀請方式，跟人民做更清楚的說明，讓人民更清楚到底發生了什麼事，我認為這也是行政院長的職責，院長應該同意這樣的看法？"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：接下來我也想請教一下，高雄是這一次的重災區，在財劃法的修正幾乎是六都裡面增幅最少，相較於臺北增加了416億，高雄只增加245億，所以還有很多人得意洋洋說我們拿了245億，但是沒有講到三千七百多億被拿掉之後，未來有一半的錢是補助不下去的，所以等同今年本來高雄也許有機會拿到700億補助款，只剩350億，所以最後高雄實質上減少了100億，是全臺灣最大的重災區，所以我認為這個怎麼能不說明？就是這樣重北輕南的狀況，甚至重藍輕綠的狀況，我認為應該要去改變，所以從民調看來為什麼人民這麼不滿，顯然人民也看到這個問題，這樣的作法絕對不是臺灣長治久安的作法。我接下來倒回來問，院長，能不能還是請你持續支持區域均衡發展，特別對於中南部的建設還是要大力去支持，院長可以承諾嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：當然，在總統的理念底下，均衡臺灣所衍生出來的臺灣六大區域治理計畫，這是今年度開始要執行的，即使在這樣總預算跟財劃法不合理的調整底下，我們還是要衡量所有的財政，把其中財政可行的範圍在可以的地方先行來開始。"],["賴委員瑞隆：中南部的鄉親很支持政府，包括供電也支持，甚至於各項產業全力支持，我也希望中央一樣持續支持中南部，鄉親們需要的建設還是希望中央支持。","我先問一下，大林蒲遷村從2019年10月8號核定到現在已經過五年多了，院長，可不可以加快速度在今年底讓它開始能夠登記、讓整個環評跟都市計畫程序加快一點，已經過五年多了，就快要6年了，真的相當長的時間，能不能儘快給大林蒲鄉親們一個明確的答案，在今年底開始來做登記。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，最後包括它的安置類社宅的一些規劃，經濟部跟內政部我知道已經達成了相當的協議，可以往這個方向來執行，這個例子我們就在大林蒲這個地方來做一個實施。但是實施的時間，我會把它拉著進來，因為大林蒲遷村計畫還會牽到其他周遭的南星計畫等等，這是牽扯……"],["賴委員瑞隆：這是對國家非常、非常重要的計畫，對鄉親也很重要、對國家競爭力發展都很重要的計畫，我希望院長持續緊盯這個計畫，也能夠在今年底前有一個比較明確的答案，鄉親已經等5年多快6年了，能夠做登記好不好？朝這個方向努力，好不好？"],["郭部長智輝：報告委員，我想……"],["賴委員瑞隆：因為時間有限。院長，是不是朝這個方向來努力，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：對。給部長講一句就可以。"],["郭部長智輝：我們現在會加速辦理環評，環評過了以後，我想就是會開始辦理遷村。"],["賴委員瑞隆：好不好？院長，請努力朝今年年底前這個方向，好嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：好的、好的。"],["賴委員瑞隆：謝謝院長。再來，其實高雄很多的交通建設跟產業建設都需要院裡面大力的支持，我想問的是國道七號拖了13年，貨櫃車基本上都在這邊跑，對人民生命安全的影響非常大，院長，能不能再趕一下，在明年6月如期開工？這個是當時預定的開工日期，明年6月能不能如期開工？院長能不能朝這個方向來努力？"],["卓院長榮泰：我請部長答復。"],["陳部長世凱：跟委員報告，之前會拖延是因為土地徵收的問題，那目前土地徵收看起來次序上應該是可以，所以我們希望明年6月可以準時開工。"],["賴委員瑞隆：所以明年6月如期來開工？"],["陳部長世凱：會，我們努力往這個方向……"],["賴委員瑞隆：我們希望院長跟部長都盯緊這程序。這一條對高雄、對鄉親們都很重要，不要讓貨櫃車在平面道路跑，造成很多重大的死亡車禍，A1死亡車禍在沿海路上常常就是因為貨櫃車跟轎車發生的，所以我們希望這樣的悲劇不再發生。那國道七號本來就應該要配合第七貨櫃中心一起來啟用，現在七貨已經啟用了，但是國道七號連動工都還沒有，動工之後還要興建五到六年的時間，我們希望能夠加速，至少明年6月先動工，讓人民感受到政府的效率，好不好？請院長、部長來大力支持。"],["陳部長世凱：好，我們來努力。"],["賴委員瑞隆：再來我要請教一下，高雄的紫線現在也全力在推了，這是一條新的路線，院長能不能大力支持，在今年以前給予一個比較明確的支持？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，目前是在可行性研究的階段，這個部分我們來加速進行。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我知道已經在進行可行性研究，那可行性研究完之後，當然接下來就有要不要支持的議題，我們看到大臺北的捷運是一條蓋過一條，高雄已經很努力了，包括第三條已經準備要做了，紫線這一條經過非常多的人口密集區，也經過許多學校，我們希望中央儘速來支持，可行性研究通過之後，也希望中央今年底能夠來核定這些經費，繼續支持高雄的交通運輸建設，好嗎？"],["陳部長世凱：好，我們來加速。"],["卓院長榮泰：去年底才送到交通部。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，去年底可行性研究進來了，那今年可行性完成，接下來就是編列經費的程序。"],["陳部長世凱：對，綜合規劃。"],["賴委員瑞隆：請院長跟部長再大力來支持。"],["陳部長世凱：好，我們來加強。"],["賴委員瑞隆：現在臺南、高雄常常塞得很厲害，如果有在跑就知道，因為高雄是南北向的，我們看到臺北已經做得很好了，從汐止到五股、到楊梅，現在要做到頭份了，一整條高架道路非常的便利，讓整個交通得到紓解。而高雄現在從市區到岡山，甚至到臺南塞得很嚴重，上下班時間塞得嚴重，假日前更嚴重，我希望能夠啟動高架道路系統，如同北臺灣的高架系統一樣，讓穿越性的車流能夠直接穿越，而不要在下面堵在一起，這個可不可以請院長跟部長也能朝這個方向來規劃？"],["卓院長榮泰：國一、國七有一個連貫性，請部長來答復。"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，國七我們加速來推動，國七完成之後，其實對於整個交通的紓解會有很大幫助，國一的部分確實那段非常的塞，不過因為它的邊坡都已經變成擋土牆，所以如果要做高架的話，會影響到一些民房跟一些徵收的問題，但這個部分我們來研究。"],["賴委員瑞隆：可不可以請部長先做規劃？因為國七比較偏東邊，它離市區比較遠，高雄因為最左邊有軍港的影響，所以它不能夠像台61那麼暢通，變成南北向的主要道路就是在國一，那國一如果能夠比照北臺灣興建高架道路的話，基本上就會讓整個市區的車流方便很多。我希望我們的建設都走在前端，現在壅塞已經出現了，如果我們能提早來做規劃的話，對於十年、二十年後下一代子孫的交通跟發展會有很大的幫助，我希望能夠提早來規劃，好不好？"],["陳部長世凱：好，這部分我們來研議。"],["賴委員瑞隆：北部從汐止現在已經做到苗栗的頭份了，我希望南部的部分也儘早來啟動，讓兩大都會區未來的交通更加便利，好不好？"],["陳部長世凱：好，這個我們來研議。"],["賴委員瑞隆：謝謝院長、謝謝部長，請優先來規劃。","再來，高雄機場其實是臺灣第二大的國際機場，雖然一直增加日本或其他的航線，但是很可惜我們一直還沒有美國跟歐洲的航線，美國航線今年7月有機會從臺灣到日本東京轉到洛杉磯去，美國跟歐洲的航線有沒有可能在院長跟部長支持下來開闢？讓南臺灣的鄉親不用很辛苦，一定要一早跑到桃園機場，才有機會飛出去，而是有機會可以從南臺灣直接飛出去，可以嗎？院長。"],["卓院長榮泰：是的，我們在推動臺灣南北雙空港，就是桃園機場跟小港機場，小港機場今年的7月，委員已經秀出來了，將可以有一個美國的航班，同時其他地方的航班也會持續的增加，另外部長也應該在規劃讓比較大型的客機能夠在小港機場起降。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，大型的客機要持續拉來高雄，不要只是中型的。另外是航班、航點持續增加，很多委員大家都在努力。另外是飛往歐洲或者是飛往美國這一塊，也希望持續來推動，歐洲的部分，部長有沒有初步的規劃？飛往歐洲的。"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，市場有這樣的需求，我們也是朝這個方向在爭取，目前當然跟各個航站都在溝通當中，那也跟航空公司在溝通當中，我們朝這個方向來努力。"],["賴委員瑞隆：希望儘快有好消息，讓高雄、南臺灣的鄉親飛往美國、飛往歐洲有更便利的一個方式，不用一大清早要趕到桃園去坐飛機。","最後一個是高雄有小港機場，也在我的選區內，但小港機場因為周邊是住戶，所以它有宵禁的問題，半夜兩、三點起降對他們的生活干擾相當大。那我們看到不管是東京的羽田機場跟成田機場，或者是首爾一樣有兩個機場──國內的金浦機場跟仁川機場，高雄有沒有可能也再來提早規劃未來有個南星的海上機場、24小時起降的機場，讓南臺灣的發展能夠更加的便利，北部一樣有桃園機場跟松山機場，相當的便利，有沒有機會讓南部一樣有個南星機場、海上機場，讓它更安全、更便利？請院長跟部長……"],["卓院長榮泰：長期以來一直在解決高雄這種航管、飛航區域的問題，所以現在是說2032年、2040年兩階段先把小港機場……"],["賴委員瑞隆：這是第一優先。"],["卓院長榮泰：將來如何找尋一個24小時可用的機場，這個一直是政府、交通部長期在思考的。"],["賴委員瑞隆：這個就拜託院長長期來做規劃，好不好？"],["卓院長榮泰：好的。"],["賴委員瑞隆：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝賴瑞隆委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長跟部會首長的備詢，謝謝。","報告院會，我們上午質詢到此為止，下午2點30分我們繼續開會，現在休息。","休息（12時6分）"]],"agenda":{"page_end":28,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-5","speakers":["韓國瑜"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2025-03-14"],"gazette_id":"1142601","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1142601_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第5次會議紀錄","content":"報告事項","agenda_id":"1142601_00001"}}}