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00:02:01,528\n跟委員報告我去年知道這個預算審查的狀況也本來在委員會很好可是到了這個二讀會以後我就發現這個趨勢不是很理想以後我從今年1月開始我們都有跟同仁說如果可以做經濟艙就不做商務艙那在5小時以下不用過夜的狀況我們盡量這樣安排甚至連廉價航空我也做\n\n7\n00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:23,044\n這個委員長以身作則希望在提升所謂的僑務的同時能夠不要面對我盡量不要犧牲到我們的僑務的各項活動所以我們在這樣子有限的資源之下但是我跟委員報告我們真的包括像旅費這件事情\n\n8\n00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:49,713\n我們就已經頭很痛了國內旅費本來就不多然後現在捅20%事實上這對我們已經造成非常嚴重的影響就是我們全國都到處有僑生我們要去視察那單單是這一些我們要到中南部東部去的時候我們現在每一個畜生家都頭都在燒就是說這個費用又不能留用那到時候這些\n\n9\n00:02:50,793 --> 00:03:14,167\n國內旅費我們到底怎麼辦所以我們現在都開始說如果只能去一個就不要去兩個就是盡量大家把業務甚至跨處式的要整併在一起變成僑生處的人要同時執行僑民處的或者僑商處的業務或僑商處的要同時執行僑民處的業務那這個就會造成我們在分工上確實很大的困擾因為為了我們降低我們的這個旅費\n\n10\n00:03:15,228 --> 00:03:22,775\n好所以說我相信各部會議像喬委會現在講得非常清楚這個就是整體的所謂預算該刪就刪但是刪成這樣的時候所引發的困難但是我們該做的事情或者是就像報告所想的中國運用各種方式在做滲透你這邊有特別提到的比如說像連英文名字到底是這個所謂的SpringFestival到底是Luna\n\n11\n00:03:40,831 --> 00:04:00,961\nNewYear還是ChineseNewYear這種他們都可以來做文章另外甚至於還發送暖心包其實我想問暖心包裡面有什麼喬委會有沒有去看到過我們是有去問啦但是大概他們就是講不外都是一些春節的應景的東西而已那所以\n\n12\n00:04:02,282 --> 00:04:15,472\n小東西我們就是觀察也沒有特別去跟他們做太多的文章但是這些小東西積少成多其實這個都是預算在裡面對不對是這個當然是中國大撒幣他們喜歡大撒幣那對我們來說我們預算是量入為出所以今年對我們來說會是一個真的很有感的一年我在最近這兩個月當中只要遇到僑團我都已經跟他們預告說要先跟你們抱歉了\n\n13\n00:04:29,682 --> 00:04:41,239\n今年我們的補助可能不但不能像去年一樣可能還要略減所以拜託大家辦活動的時候盡量大家可以整合合作在一起提高這個效率\n\n14\n00:04:42,162 --> 00:04:46,925\n好所以妳就看到嘛妳在報告也寫到嘛中國領事館人員是春節的時候密集拜會傳統橋設並致贈春節禮金紅包啊一方面中國在給紅包結果剛剛徐委員長說不好意思藍白聯手把我們的總預算刪減了尤其是像這種業務費要用桶刪的出差旅費連人都到不了\n\n15\n00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,602\n人家是到傳統僑社裡面親自拜訪還給紅包我覺得你們的考驗跟壓力非常大是我們過去到傳統僑社去或者是中青會去我們也都會添一些香油錢固然是不多但是隨著我們整體的這個預算包括業務費被捅三這確實會對我們產生一些影響本來包500可能現在只能包\n\n16\n00:05:34,763 --> 00:05:41,485\n這個450類似像這樣子那個量入為出所以我覺得這個部分恐怕也只能請委員長跟喬文會所有的同仁真的這個他們在打金錢牌我們的人情牌網絡牌可能就要更發揮當然也需要靠我們在第一線在國外的這些所謂的\n\n17\n00:05:53,210 --> 00:06:19,253\n喬商朋友或者是喬商同胞們一起來協助因為中國的打壓其實是非常的多包括去年其實像我們出席這個亞洲台商總會的時候就有發生這個一些狀況包括名牌不見了然後不能唱國歌等等其實現在的滲透非常的多但是這些滲透它其實傳達的都是一種\n\n18\n00:06:20,474 --> 00:06:37,088\n對於國家認同主權認同之爭本席其實有聽到一個訊息當然陸委會最新的報告也出來了就是中國目前他會打著抗爭所謂抗戰勝利光復八十週年\n\n19\n00:06:37,828 --> 00:06:58,260\n為他們今年所訴求的主題要形塑所謂兩岸同屬一中而本席在這幾次出國跟僑界他們在溝通跟交流的時候我不知道僑委會有沒有聽到這樣的一個訊息就是現在我們已經來到三月即將四月也就是半年之後的國慶其實現在慢慢也要開始舉辦了傳統的僑界跟現在我們的所謂的\n\n20\n00:07:04,283 --> 00:07:16,611\n台橋朋友之間開始要準備國慶的同時不知道委員長有沒有聽到一個聲音是居然要把抗戰勝利80年這樣的一個主題跟我們的國慶綁在一起\n\n21\n00:07:22,294 --> 00:07:35,880\n確實是有的其實這個做法在過去幾年中共的統戰過程當中他們一直企圖要把這個過去的歷史重新解釋那今年當然是二戰中戰的八十週年紀念沒有錯所以他們企圖在國際輿論上要製造一個說這個中戰他是戰勝國可是事實上當時連中共都中華人民\n\n22\n00:07:49,565 --> 00:08:16,360\n共和國都還沒成立他們只有成立70年所以單單這個建國才70年怎麼可能去打80年的戰爭就打到他們自己的耳光了所以我們只要把清楚的歷史的史實資料做清楚的呈現當然我們也一樣要預防就像他們過去一直在搶國父孫中山先生的這個陣統一樣所以我們對於這種統戰的伎倆跟守法一直都保持高度的警戒\n\n23\n00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:21,002\n因為時間有限本期只是提醒因為現在要錢我們沒有辦活動的錢比不贏中國要宣傳整體的宣傳費也被藍白聯手現在砍掉了所以剛剛您的清楚論述如何正確的傳達給僑界如何讓僑界在辦活動或者尤其是像國慶這種慶祝活動的時候在整體的\n\n24\n00:08:41,570 --> 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所以說我相信各部會議 像喬委會現在講得非常清楚這個就是整體的所謂預算 該刪就刪但是刪成這樣的時候所引發的困難但是我們該做的事情 或者是就像報告所想的中國運用各種方式在做滲透你這邊有特別提到的 比如說像連英文名字到底是這個所謂的Spring Festival 到底是Luna\n220831\t240961\tNew Year還是Chinese New Year這種他們都可以來做文章另外甚至於還發送暖心包其實我想問暖心包裡面有什麼喬委會有沒有去看到過我們是有去問啦但是大概他們就是講不外都是一些春節的應景的東西而已那所以\n242282\t255472\t小東西我們就是觀察也沒有特別去跟他們做太多的文章但是這些小東西積少成多其實這個都是預算在裡面對不對是 這個當然是中國大撒幣他們喜歡大撒幣那對我們來說我們預算是量入為出所以今年對我們來說會是一個真的很有感的一年我在最近這兩個月當中只要遇到僑團我都已經跟他們預告說要先跟你們抱歉了\n269682\t281239\t今年我們的補助可能不但不能像去年一樣可能還要略減所以拜託大家辦活動的時候盡量大家可以整合合作在一起提高這個效率\n282162\t286925\t好 所以妳就看到嘛 妳在報告也寫到嘛中國領事館人員是春節的時候密集拜會傳統橋設並致贈春節禮金紅包啊 一方面中國在給紅包結果剛剛徐委員長說不好意思藍白聯手把我們的總預算刪減了尤其是像這種業務費要用桶刪的 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所以說我相信各部會議 像喬委會現在講得非常清楚這個就是整體的所謂預算 該刪就刪但是刪成這樣的時候所引發的困難但是我們該做的事情 或者是就像報告所想的中國運用各種方式在做滲透你這邊有特別提到的 比如說像連英文名字到底是這個所謂的Spring Festival 到底是Luna\nNew Year還是Chinese New Year這種他們都可以來做文章另外甚至於還發送暖心包其實我想問暖心包裡面有什麼喬委會有沒有去看到過我們是有去問啦但是大概他們就是講不外都是一些春節的應景的東西而已那所以\n小東西我們就是觀察也沒有特別去跟他們做太多的文章但是這些小東西積少成多其實這個都是預算在裡面對不對是 這個當然是中國大撒幣他們喜歡大撒幣那對我們來說我們預算是量入為出所以今年對我們來說會是一個真的很有感的一年我在最近這兩個月當中只要遇到僑團我都已經跟他們預告說要先跟你們抱歉了\n今年我們的補助可能不但不能像去年一樣可能還要略減所以拜託大家辦活動的時候盡量大家可以整合合作在一起提高這個效率\n好 所以妳就看到嘛 妳在報告也寫到嘛中國領事館人員是春節的時候密集拜會傳統橋設並致贈春節禮金紅包啊 一方面中國在給紅包結果剛剛徐委員長說不好意思藍白聯手把我們的總預算刪減了尤其是像這種業務費要用桶刪的 出差旅費連人都到不了\n人家是到傳統僑社裡面親自拜訪還給紅包我覺得你們的考驗跟壓力非常大是我們過去到傳統僑社去或者是中青會去我們也都會添一些香油錢固然是不多但是隨著我們整體的這個預算包括業務費被捅三這確實會對我們產生一些影響本來包500可能現在只能包\n這個450類似像這樣子那個量入為出所以我覺得這個部分恐怕也只能請委員長跟喬文會所有的同仁真的這個他們在打金錢牌我們的人情牌網絡牌可能就要更發揮當然也需要靠我們在第一線在國外的這些所謂的\n喬商朋友或者是喬商同胞們一起來協助因為中國的打壓其實是非常的多包括去年其實像我們出席這個亞洲台商總會的時候就有發生這個一些狀況包括名牌不見了然後不能唱國歌等等其實現在的滲透非常的多但是這些滲透它其實傳達的都是一種\n對於國家認同主權認同之爭本席其實有聽到一個訊息當然陸委會最新的報告也出來了就是中國目前他會打著抗爭所謂抗戰勝利光復八十週年\n為他們今年所訴求的主題要形塑所謂兩岸同屬一中而本席在這幾次出國跟僑界他們在溝通跟交流的時候我不知道僑委會有沒有聽到這樣的一個訊息就是現在我們已經來到三月即將四月也就是半年之後的國慶其實現在慢慢也要開始舉辦了傳統的僑界跟現在我們的所謂的\n台橋朋友之間開始要準備國慶的同時不知道委員長有沒有聽到一個聲音是居然要把抗戰勝利80年這樣的一個主題跟我們的國慶綁在一起\n確實是有的其實這個做法在過去幾年中共的統戰過程當中他們一直企圖要把這個過去的歷史重新解釋那今年當然是二戰中戰的八十週年紀念沒有錯所以他們企圖在國際輿論上要製造一個說這個中戰他是戰勝國可是事實上當時連中共都中華人民\n共和國都還沒成立他們只有成立70年所以單單這個建國才70年怎麼可能去打80年的戰爭就打到他們自己的耳光了所以我們只要把清楚的歷史的史實資料做清楚的呈現當然我們也一樣要預防就像他們過去一直在搶國父孫中山先生的這個陣統一樣所以我們對於這種統戰的伎倆跟守法一直都保持高度的警戒\n因為時間有限本期只是提醒因為現在要錢我們沒有辦活動的錢比不贏中國要宣傳整體的宣傳費也被藍白聯手現在砍掉了所以剛剛您的清楚論述如何正確的傳達給僑界如何讓僑界在辦活動或者尤其是像國慶這種慶祝活動的時候在整體的\n所謂主權國家意識當中可以清楚的傳達可能就要考驗徐委員長跟所有我們僑委會同仁的智慧了謝謝委員提供的這個建議跟資訊好我們會加油謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.410 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