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00:02:50,043\n這個良心的建議因為這個薪資低說實在也是非常困難去突破唯一只有我們公共工程委員會統一制定它的低標準把它拉高自然薪資就會拉高所以這個我要良心的建議我們主委在這個部分\n\n9\n00:02:51,344 --> 00:03:08,164\n認真去考慮一下還有一點就是你都用鼓勵加分的方式啦其實自動置花的這些雇主啊或公共工程的這些廠商啊他不會用加分他就可以得到是要用\n\n10\n00:03:09,125 --> 00:03:36,847\n公共工程委員會的硬性規定讓他把低薪把他拉高這個對公共工程所屬的勞工啊是有幫助的這一點我這點我特別跟主委啊建議啊這個部分要較為認真的去思考那當然也要顧慮到其他的法規啦那但是有很多法規在主委可以\n\n11\n00:03:37,688 --> 00:03:53,697\n研擬的當中資方也可以接受然後勞方這裡也覺得你照顧那另外政府也覺得這個部分是有必要去做因為我在想\n\n12\n00:03:54,597 --> 00:04:17,452\n民進黨執政已經九年他對於勞工的權益跟勞工的薪資非常在意的這我知道是非常在意這點對就對不對就不對他確實對於基本薪資的調整確實是蠻重視的這個問題所以我要拜託陳主委在這個部分我還是請你\n\n13\n00:04:18,813 --> 00:04:39,511\n責成你的兩位副主委我們來研究一下有沒有可能1.1把它拉到1.5以上這樣的話可能他的低薪的問題自然就會拉高因為你的最低標準是這樣嘛但是你把最低標準把它拉高以後自然而然調薪的機率就會大增這點\n\n14\n00:04:40,572 --> 00:04:49,007\n我要拜託我們工程會這裡啊要幫全國廣大的勞工啊去做這些事那吉利來下一張\n\n15\n00:04:50,782 --> 00:05:19,677\n像這些像這些什麼應安會的調查員啊蘇發部的工程員啊氣象這些分析我說實在你訂那個薪資是太低了太低了因為他的專業專業是不一樣的所以你一概而論去對這些人是不公平的這個我是就事論事啊特別給主委做一個建議那另外\n\n16\n00:05:20,953 --> 00:05:37,872\n我也每一次我都跟你提公安的問題啊當然公安的主責組織單位是勞動部但是你是監督單位喔你發現問題你要去制定這整個規範要做到什麼應該是要跟勞動部\n\n17\n00:05:39,333 --> 00:06:05,510\n跟勞工部這個監督這個執行的單位要有聯繫所以在這個部分特別這幾年下來確實是有進步但是我還是要拜託我們主委在這個部分確確實實你還是要用一點心把這個勞工的生命財產安全去把它做得更嚴謹這對勞工才會有幫助\n\n18\n00:06:08,092 --> 00:06:20,057\n那最後啊我還是特別要拜託主委啦因為下一張我要拜託主委就剛才孟愷委員他所講的解凍的問題啊\n\n19\n00:06:21,977 --> 00:06:48,197\n我也知道解凍有兩種一種是委員會解一種是宴會解但是我私底下你來看我我還是給你一個建議啊我說先送委員會因為我們委員會只有15個人據我了解我來參加交通委員會我跟你講我們這個交通委員會不分黨派大家都一團合聚針對問題來解決\n\n20\n00:06:49,958 --> 00:07:17,554\n那有什麼困難在委員會講那有必要到宴會去解委員會先解送到大會備案來解這是對我們案子是有幫助的所以都不要去爭論事實有些確實是在宴會來做解凍有些是在我們委員會去做解凍所以主委我說實在啦我還是希望我還是希望\n\n21\n00:07:18,234 --> 00:07:35,596\n我到任何一個地方我也知道這個金職獎這個部分是大家都重視啊包括我們所有委員各黨各派我們都認為這有必要啊那你們做的最好的也是這個金職獎的部分啊當然不能停頓啊那如何去解決\n\n22\n00:07:37,239 --> 00:08:00,481\n當然就是主委你這裡特別特別要用一點技術性的東西我比較建議送到委員會委員會審了以後呈給大會我跟你講反對的機會不會很大所以主委這個我特別啊給你一個建議啦那當然因為我也知道說實在的最近啊這個這個\n\n23\n00:08:04,109 --> 00:08:20,757\n這個謠言滿天輝啦好謠言下一張來謠言滿天輝啦但是真的主委以我了解你的處事原則我不希望你跟這些你跟這些謠言去起舞不需要因為你要做事\n\n24\n00:08:22,591 --> 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