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00:02:23,205\n他這個貼紙可以貼在他自己的這個店的門口我們會把它納入我們的網站那同時我們也會去巡查就是說那你要提供什麼樣的優惠措施有些這個等於說我們再多幫他增加一條管道來去做行銷嘛\n\n8\n00:02:24,386 --> 00:02:28,229\n那有一些僑胞回來的時候總是想要買一些小禮品或者是飲食食品想要帶出去的那這個部分有愛僑卡的運用會多少增加一些幫助打個九五折九折等等的或者送什麼產品這個都會有一定的幫助所以我們是歡迎花東地區能夠增加因為我現在看我們以花蓮市大部分是以觀光為主\n\n9\n00:02:51,404 --> 00:02:59,910\n但是愛喬卡如果照這樣如果是像我剛才所說的27家太少我們就要找出這樣的問題這樣的問題是不是主動申請的人太少有的那個27家可能是舊的資料我們最新的是64家了但是64家還是少嘛所以我們今天就是說是主動申請的少呢還是因為審核我們都沒有辦法過呢基本上他們是可以主動來跟我們說要申請的\n\n10\n00:03:14,961 --> 00:03:24,189\n我們基本上我們審核的標準也都不會太高所以幾乎沒有拒絕的除非他不能提供任何優惠他如果不提供任何優惠當然就沒辦法參加我們的愛喬卡特約商店那你可以像累積到現在花蓮和台東提出來的申請愛喬卡特約數量有多少到時候可以目前是95家就是花蓮64然後通過的話是60家這樣就對了不是不是\n\n11\n00:03:41,405 --> 00:03:58,083\n已經通過的就已經是95家了在花蓮是64在台東是31那如果再加上宜蘭的話那就更多那100多那我們是歡迎所有的花蓮可能我想東部地區可能比較少店家知道我們有這個愛橋卡啦\n\n12\n00:03:59,604 --> 00:04:03,267\n那可能你就要宣傳嘛對不對因為我們通常是對外宣傳比較少對國內宣傳不過國內的知名企業他們都知道來加入我們這個系統所以像義美啦或者是這個阿壽皮茄啦新東洋啦這些知名企業其實我們也有主動去跟他們這個洽那他們也都很願意加入我們這個他們有勸的都很願意加入我們的系統\n\n13\n00:04:23,584 --> 00:04:27,667\n我現在還有看到一個就是僑委會113年你們也跟34家旅行業者合作規劃全台各地的人文的特色和觀光的亮點總共有162條的旅遊路線但是我仔細看了一下去年的僑委會雖然有補助了162條路線但是實際上我們花東地區有關這樣的路線只有10條而已而且占不到兩成那委員長你覺得這樣是不是很偏心呢是不是太少呢\n\n14\n00:04:49,501 --> 00:05:03,026\n我們沒有偏心啦因為這些路線都是業者自己自行規劃提出的而且去年我們還特別針對花東區因為在403的大地震以後鼓勵僑胞可以繼續來花東地區旅遊我們把補助金額從3000提高到3600其他區都維持3000只有花東我們再多增加600\n\n15\n00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:16,471\n可是因為去年的狀況還不是很好所以即便增加了多600塊的補助誘因不是那麼強那委員長你有沒有想過為什麼會成效不佳像剛才我們講到最後就是說成效不佳嘛是不是我們是應該是讓僑胞有比較多選擇的項目呢去加強呢就是像讓他們申請就是店家都來申請嘛然後還是說我們這個規劃的路線太少了呢所以有10條啊所以這個誘因不高所以大家就不會想要去我想跟\n\n16\n00:05:40,623 --> 00:05:56,077\n跟這個路線的多少不是重點主要是去年的結構是花東地區的那個地震還是很頻繁那還有就是說交通的需求這個都會影響到僑胞他們回來的這個旅遊意願那畢竟僑胞回來時間有限嘛\n\n17\n00:06:02,483 --> 00:06:07,488\n所以他一定要妥善的去安排如果花東如果臨時有什麼取消班次啦或者是取消車班的情況他們就會擔心因此這個也會降低一些意願我想我們會持續照委員的建議來強化多提高我們在花東區的特約商店那今年我們\n\n18\n00:06:23,602 --> 00:06:31,208\n照道理因為403的這個地震告一段落我們是不是要持續要補助但是我也同意委員說要鼓勵花東的旅遊所以今年的慶典當中10月份我們對於僑胞的這個旅行我們仍然願意給花東區比較高的補助\n\n19\n00:06:41,736 --> 00:06:58,004\n因為現在已經三月份了嘛再過半年雙十國慶就要來了嘛然後到時候會有大量的僑胞回台嘛所以僑委會你現在要如何的改善還有推廣增加僑胞到花東觀光的旅遊的誘因是不是可以積極的都透過一些管道宣傳回國旅遊的時候藉由僑團還是僑委會不過我跟委員再補充一點就是說僑界也跟我們反映啦這個不單只針對花蓮台東而已就是說\n\n20\n00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:27,731\n他們也到全世界各地去那對台灣的旅遊他們都有興趣但他們覺得台灣的住房費用偏高這件事情也是他們會覺得不想多去的一個原因所以我們怎麼樣提高品質跟這個價格可以達到一個合理的狀態\n\n21\n00:07:29,153 --> 00:07:35,399\n我知道因為協會會的本業本來就是不主管觀光的業務但是畢竟政府團隊是一起的我們都會配合政府的政策當然為了全台灣的人好那當然是要怎麼樣促進大家經濟的發展嘛對不對我們也會在我們網站多幫忙行銷花東地區的這個觀光OK好\n\n22\n00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:51,512\n謝謝那委員長我再問一下就是面對中國對台灣甚至對全球採取軟性的文化統戰這個是越來越明顯了甚至打壓台灣在國際的生存的空間然後現在我本席我剛剛今天看了你們的業務報告的第四頁第二點中國運用春節活動展開文化統戰\n\n23\n00:08:09,245 --> 00:08:15,507\n近年來中國國僑辦贈送新春暖心包還有一些贈送一些特別的小物給海外的僑胞還有中國使領館的人員也會在春節的時候拜會了傳統的僑社還有並致贈春節的禮金那我想要請教委員長一下就是像你們剛剛自己列的這些目標應該是不是要更積極地掌握各種同戰的情資呢還有我們都會怎麼樣去提醒\n\n24\n00:08:38,116 --> 00:08:43,581\n僑團可能會被中共操作成為統戰宣傳的樣本還有怎麼樣面對中共在海外無所不用其極的金錢還有人情的攻勢有沒有更積極還有更有效的因應措施因為我剛才看了這整篇之後我覺得這些做法都是偏於一般的傳統的交流還有應對似乎都是沒有那麼積極\n\n25\n00:09:00,656 --> 00:09:20,276\n我們在外都有做第一線的佈局所以我們第一線的同仁跟我們外交單位的人也都會密切去關注跟收集這些情資一旦有一些動作出現我們後面都會跟進來做相關的處理那當然近年因為中共對於全球的統戰跟滲透是\n\n26\n00:09:22,458 --> 00:09:35,226\n持續的嚴峻加強所以有些像加拿大或美國歐洲國家已經都祭出一些法律就是外國代理人法在進行調查所以如果有再更進一步的情勢狀況我們也會請我們僑民去做跟當地的執法單位提醒通報\n\n27\n00:09:42,850 --> 00:10:00,944\n那如果是有涉我的部分我們也會努力的來跟僑團去做溝通因為這兩年確實有一些中共代理人被抓跟起訴那這也形成某種這個親中的僑團有稍微比較這個\n\n28\n00:10:04,907 --> 00:10:22,060\n應該說變低調轉趨低調那傳統橋社大家也都是在地資訊都有收集到所以大家對於跟中共方面中領館、使領館的這些互動往來都會刻意的想要保持一些距離不過他們確實是有強化要\n\n29\n00:10:24,662 --> 00:10:33,688\n提更多的好處給這些傳統僑社不過我們也在後面都有密切的在溝通跟觀察避免這種往來的金錢遊戲持續的加碼我們不跟他玩這種遊戲的我現在只是想說提醒僑委會就是我們不要跟外交部一樣現在我們台灣的邦交國已經被中共拉攏剩下12個國家了現在還無人為力所以我希望說僑委會這邊我們可以凝聚台灣人的愛國心和向心力讓台灣在國際有生存的空間不要再受到中共的打壓\n\n30\n00:10:54,222 --> 00:10:55,197\n好的謝謝林委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n259\t900\t有請委員長林委員你好\n9222\t14527\t委員長好我們也知道0403花蓮地震其實本市一直都是想要振興花東的災後的觀光的產業其實對這個東西我覺得是我其實是相當的憂心所以也是一直在努力的協助所以我有一些問題想要請教一下委員長請問委員長橋委會目前是不是有針對橋包回台觀光旅遊這是不是有一個哀橋卡\n34524\t37007\t我們愛僑卡並不是說單純為僑胞的返國旅遊這愛僑卡是比較早以前從2017年那時候叫做認同卡那僑胞認同卡當時的功能性比較不是只有在精神層面的比較不是實務層面但是到2021年我們開始把它變成是從實體卡轉為數位卡\n57648\t79500\t之後我們開始大量的增加各種功能性的提升包括增加這個所謂的優惠措施就是有特約商店那現在國內跟海外的特約商店有超過4000家好那我再請教一下就是說那目前愛喬卡在花蓮和台東的特約的商店各有多少家請問委員長知道嗎\n81901\t85243\t花蓮、台東、宜蘭應該這樣講就是整個東台灣的家宿目前大概有將近100家應該這樣講花蓮64家台東31家然後如果加上宜蘭的話大概有150家\n100512\t122522\t但是我這邊的資料看起來是花蓮只有27家台東只有20家那我再請問一下就是說這些店家如何申請才可以取得愛橋卡的特約商店的情況呢我們可以在網站上我們有加入特約商店的一些SOP作業那如果他有興趣我們就會給他發一個這個標章\n126385\t143205\t他這個貼紙可以貼在他自己的這個店的門口我們會把它納入我們的網站那同時我們也會去巡查就是說那你要提供什麼樣的優惠措施有些這個等於說我們再多幫他增加一條管道來去做行銷嘛\n144386\t148229\t那有一些僑胞回來的時候總是想要買一些小禮品或者是飲食食品想要帶出去的那這個部分有愛僑卡的運用會多少增加一些幫助打個九五折九折等等的或者送什麼產品這個都會有一定的幫助所以我們是歡迎花東地區能夠增加因為我現在看我們以花蓮市大部分是以觀光為主\n171404\t179910\t但是愛喬卡如果照這樣如果是像我剛才所說的27家太少我們就要找出這樣的問題這樣的問題是不是主動申請的人太少有的那個27家可能是舊的資料我們最新的是64家了但是64家還是少嘛所以我們今天就是說是主動申請的少呢還是因為審核我們都沒有辦法過呢基本上他們是可以主動來跟我們說要申請的\n194961\t204189\t我們基本上我們審核的標準也都不會太高所以幾乎沒有拒絕的除非他不能提供任何優惠他如果不提供任何優惠當然就沒辦法參加我們的愛喬卡特約商店那你可以像累積到現在花蓮和台東提出來的申請愛喬卡特約數量有多少到時候可以目前是95家就是花蓮64然後通過的話是60家這樣就對了不是不是\n221405\t238083\t已經通過的就已經是95家了在花蓮是64在台東是31那如果再加上宜蘭的話那就更多那100多那我們是歡迎所有的花蓮可能我想東部地區可能比較少店家知道我們有這個愛橋卡啦\n239604\t243267\t那可能你就要宣傳嘛對不對因為我們通常是對外宣傳比較少對國內宣傳不過國內的知名企業他們都知道來加入我們這個系統所以像義美啦或者是這個阿壽皮茄啦新東洋啦這些知名企業其實我們也有主動去跟他們這個洽那他們也都很願意加入我們這個他們有勸的都很願意加入我們的系統\n263584\t267667\t我現在還有看到一個就是僑委會113年你們也跟34家旅行業者合作規劃全台各地的人文的特色和觀光的亮點總共有162條的旅遊路線但是我仔細看了一下去年的僑委會雖然有補助了162條路線但是實際上我們花東地區有關這樣的路線只有10條而已而且占不到兩成那委員長你覺得這樣是不是很偏心呢是不是太少呢\n289501\t303026\t我們沒有偏心啦因為這些路線都是業者自己自行規劃提出的而且去年我們還特別針對花東區因為在403的大地震以後鼓勵僑胞可以繼續來花東地區旅遊我們把補助金額從3000提高到3600其他區都維持3000只有花東我們再多增加600\n311789\t316471\t可是因為去年的狀況還不是很好所以即便增加了多600塊的補助誘因不是那麼強那委員長你有沒有想過為什麼會成效不佳像剛才我們講到最後就是說成效不佳嘛是不是我們是應該是讓僑胞有比較多選擇的項目呢去加強呢就是像讓他們申請就是店家都來申請嘛然後還是說我們這個規劃的路線太少了呢所以有10條啊所以這個誘因不高所以大家就不會想要去我想跟\n340623\t356077\t跟這個路線的多少不是重點主要是去年的結構是花東地區的那個地震還是很頻繁那還有就是說交通的需求這個都會影響到僑胞他們回來的這個旅遊意願那畢竟僑胞回來時間有限嘛\n362483\t367488\t所以他一定要妥善的去安排如果花東如果臨時有什麼取消班次啦或者是取消車班的情況他們就會擔心因此這個也會降低一些意願我想我們會持續照委員的建議來強化多提高我們在花東區的特約商店那今年我們\n383602\t391208\t照道理因為403的這個地震告一段落我們是不是要持續要補助但是我也同意委員說要鼓勵花東的旅遊所以今年的慶典當中10月份我們對於僑胞的這個旅行我們仍然願意給花東區比較高的補助\n401736\t418004\t因為現在已經三月份了嘛再過半年雙十國慶就要來了嘛然後到時候會有大量的僑胞回台嘛所以僑委會你現在要如何的改善還有推廣增加僑胞到花東觀光的旅遊的誘因是不是可以積極的都透過一些管道宣傳回國旅遊的時候藉由僑團還是僑委會不過我跟委員再補充一點就是說僑界也跟我們反映啦這個不單只針對花蓮台東而已就是說\n428829\t447731\t他們也到全世界各地去那對台灣的旅遊他們都有興趣但他們覺得台灣的住房費用偏高這件事情也是他們會覺得不想多去的一個原因所以我們怎麼樣提高品質跟這個價格可以達到一個合理的狀態\n449153\t455399\t我知道因為協會會的本業本來就是不主管觀光的業務但是畢竟政府團隊是一起的我們都會配合政府的政策當然為了全台灣的人好那當然是要怎麼樣促進大家經濟的發展嘛對不對我們也會在我們網站多幫忙行銷花東地區的這個觀光OK 好\n468490\t471512\t謝謝那委員長我再問一下就是面對中國對台灣甚至對全球採取軟性的文化統戰這個是越來越明顯了甚至打壓台灣在國際的生存的空間然後現在我本席我剛剛今天看了你們的業務報告的第四頁第二點中國運用春節活動展開文化統戰\n489245\t495507\t近年來中國國僑辦贈送新春暖心包還有一些 贈送一些特別的小物給海外的僑胞還有中國使領館的人員也會在春節的時候拜會了傳統的僑社還有並致贈春節的禮金那我想要請教委員長一下就是像你們剛剛自己列的這些目標應該是不是要更積極地掌握各種同戰的情資呢還有我們都會怎麼樣去提醒\n518116\t523581\t僑團可能會被中共操作成為統戰宣傳的樣本還有怎麼樣面對中共在海外無所不用其極的金錢還有人情的攻勢有沒有更積極還有更有效的因應措施因為我剛才看了這整篇之後我覺得這些做法都是偏於一般的傳統的交流還有應對似乎都是沒有那麼積極\n540656\t560276\t我們在外都有做第一線的佈局所以我們第一線的同仁跟我們外交單位的人也都會密切去關注跟收集這些情資一旦有一些動作出現我們後面都會跟進來做相關的處理那當然近年因為中共對於全球的統戰跟滲透是\n562458\t575226\t持續的嚴峻加強所以有些像加拿大或美國歐洲國家已經都祭出一些法律就是外國代理人法在進行調查所以如果有再更進一步的情勢狀況我們也會請我們僑民去做跟當地的執法單位提醒通報\n582850\t600944\t那如果是有涉我的部分我們也會努力的來跟僑團去做溝通因為這兩年確實有一些中共代理人被抓跟起訴那這也形成某種這個親中的僑團有稍微比較這個\n604907\t622060\t應該說變低調轉趨低調那傳統橋社大家也都是在地資訊都有收集到所以大家對於跟中共方面中領館、使領館的這些互動往來都會刻意的想要保持一些距離不過他們確實是有強化要\n624662\t633688\t提更多的好處給這些傳統僑社不過我們也在後面都有密切的在溝通跟觀察避免這種往來的金錢遊戲持續的加碼我們不跟他玩這種遊戲的我現在只是想說提醒僑委會就是我們不要跟外交部一樣現在我們台灣的邦交國已經被中共拉攏剩下12個國家了現在還無人為力所以我希望說僑委會這邊我們可以凝聚台灣人的愛國心和向心力讓台灣在國際有生存的空間不要再受到中共的打壓\n654222\t655197\t好的謝謝林委員\n","txt":"有請委員長林委員你好\n委員長好我們也知道0403花蓮地震其實本市一直都是想要振興花東的災後的觀光的產業其實對這個東西我覺得是我其實是相當的憂心所以也是一直在努力的協助所以我有一些問題想要請教一下委員長請問委員長橋委會目前是不是有針對橋包回台觀光旅遊這是不是有一個哀橋卡\n我們愛僑卡並不是說單純為僑胞的返國旅遊這愛僑卡是比較早以前從2017年那時候叫做認同卡那僑胞認同卡當時的功能性比較不是只有在精神層面的比較不是實務層面但是到2021年我們開始把它變成是從實體卡轉為數位卡\n之後我們開始大量的增加各種功能性的提升包括增加這個所謂的優惠措施就是有特約商店那現在國內跟海外的特約商店有超過4000家好那我再請教一下就是說那目前愛喬卡在花蓮和台東的特約的商店各有多少家請問委員長知道嗎\n花蓮、台東、宜蘭應該這樣講就是整個東台灣的家宿目前大概有將近100家應該這樣講花蓮64家台東31家然後如果加上宜蘭的話大概有150家\n但是我這邊的資料看起來是花蓮只有27家台東只有20家那我再請問一下就是說這些店家如何申請才可以取得愛橋卡的特約商店的情況呢我們可以在網站上我們有加入特約商店的一些SOP作業那如果他有興趣我們就會給他發一個這個標章\n他這個貼紙可以貼在他自己的這個店的門口我們會把它納入我們的網站那同時我們也會去巡查就是說那你要提供什麼樣的優惠措施有些這個等於說我們再多幫他增加一條管道來去做行銷嘛\n那有一些僑胞回來的時候總是想要買一些小禮品或者是飲食食品想要帶出去的那這個部分有愛僑卡的運用會多少增加一些幫助打個九五折九折等等的或者送什麼產品這個都會有一定的幫助所以我們是歡迎花東地區能夠增加因為我現在看我們以花蓮市大部分是以觀光為主\n但是愛喬卡如果照這樣如果是像我剛才所說的27家太少我們就要找出這樣的問題這樣的問題是不是主動申請的人太少有的那個27家可能是舊的資料我們最新的是64家了但是64家還是少嘛所以我們今天就是說是主動申請的少呢還是因為審核我們都沒有辦法過呢基本上他們是可以主動來跟我們說要申請的\n我們基本上我們審核的標準也都不會太高所以幾乎沒有拒絕的除非他不能提供任何優惠他如果不提供任何優惠當然就沒辦法參加我們的愛喬卡特約商店那你可以像累積到現在花蓮和台東提出來的申請愛喬卡特約數量有多少到時候可以目前是95家就是花蓮64然後通過的話是60家這樣就對了不是不是\n已經通過的就已經是95家了在花蓮是64在台東是31那如果再加上宜蘭的話那就更多那100多那我們是歡迎所有的花蓮可能我想東部地區可能比較少店家知道我們有這個愛橋卡啦\n那可能你就要宣傳嘛對不對因為我們通常是對外宣傳比較少對國內宣傳不過國內的知名企業他們都知道來加入我們這個系統所以像義美啦或者是這個阿壽皮茄啦新東洋啦這些知名企業其實我們也有主動去跟他們這個洽那他們也都很願意加入我們這個他們有勸的都很願意加入我們的系統\n我現在還有看到一個就是僑委會113年你們也跟34家旅行業者合作規劃全台各地的人文的特色和觀光的亮點總共有162條的旅遊路線但是我仔細看了一下去年的僑委會雖然有補助了162條路線但是實際上我們花東地區有關這樣的路線只有10條而已而且占不到兩成那委員長你覺得這樣是不是很偏心呢是不是太少呢\n我們沒有偏心啦因為這些路線都是業者自己自行規劃提出的而且去年我們還特別針對花東區因為在403的大地震以後鼓勵僑胞可以繼續來花東地區旅遊我們把補助金額從3000提高到3600其他區都維持3000只有花東我們再多增加600\n可是因為去年的狀況還不是很好所以即便增加了多600塊的補助誘因不是那麼強那委員長你有沒有想過為什麼會成效不佳像剛才我們講到最後就是說成效不佳嘛是不是我們是應該是讓僑胞有比較多選擇的項目呢去加強呢就是像讓他們申請就是店家都來申請嘛然後還是說我們這個規劃的路線太少了呢所以有10條啊所以這個誘因不高所以大家就不會想要去我想跟\n跟這個路線的多少不是重點主要是去年的結構是花東地區的那個地震還是很頻繁那還有就是說交通的需求這個都會影響到僑胞他們回來的這個旅遊意願那畢竟僑胞回來時間有限嘛\n所以他一定要妥善的去安排如果花東如果臨時有什麼取消班次啦或者是取消車班的情況他們就會擔心因此這個也會降低一些意願我想我們會持續照委員的建議來強化多提高我們在花東區的特約商店那今年我們\n照道理因為403的這個地震告一段落我們是不是要持續要補助但是我也同意委員說要鼓勵花東的旅遊所以今年的慶典當中10月份我們對於僑胞的這個旅行我們仍然願意給花東區比較高的補助\n因為現在已經三月份了嘛再過半年雙十國慶就要來了嘛然後到時候會有大量的僑胞回台嘛所以僑委會你現在要如何的改善還有推廣增加僑胞到花東觀光的旅遊的誘因是不是可以積極的都透過一些管道宣傳回國旅遊的時候藉由僑團還是僑委會不過我跟委員再補充一點就是說僑界也跟我們反映啦這個不單只針對花蓮台東而已就是說\n他們也到全世界各地去那對台灣的旅遊他們都有興趣但他們覺得台灣的住房費用偏高這件事情也是他們會覺得不想多去的一個原因所以我們怎麼樣提高品質跟這個價格可以達到一個合理的狀態\n我知道因為協會會的本業本來就是不主管觀光的業務但是畢竟政府團隊是一起的我們都會配合政府的政策當然為了全台灣的人好那當然是要怎麼樣促進大家經濟的發展嘛對不對我們也會在我們網站多幫忙行銷花東地區的這個觀光OK 好\n謝謝那委員長我再問一下就是面對中國對台灣甚至對全球採取軟性的文化統戰這個是越來越明顯了甚至打壓台灣在國際的生存的空間然後現在我本席我剛剛今天看了你們的業務報告的第四頁第二點中國運用春節活動展開文化統戰\n近年來中國國僑辦贈送新春暖心包還有一些 贈送一些特別的小物給海外的僑胞還有中國使領館的人員也會在春節的時候拜會了傳統的僑社還有並致贈春節的禮金那我想要請教委員長一下就是像你們剛剛自己列的這些目標應該是不是要更積極地掌握各種同戰的情資呢還有我們都會怎麼樣去提醒\n僑團可能會被中共操作成為統戰宣傳的樣本還有怎麼樣面對中共在海外無所不用其極的金錢還有人情的攻勢有沒有更積極還有更有效的因應措施因為我剛才看了這整篇之後我覺得這些做法都是偏於一般的傳統的交流還有應對似乎都是沒有那麼積極\n我們在外都有做第一線的佈局所以我們第一線的同仁跟我們外交單位的人也都會密切去關注跟收集這些情資一旦有一些動作出現我們後面都會跟進來做相關的處理那當然近年因為中共對於全球的統戰跟滲透是\n持續的嚴峻加強所以有些像加拿大或美國歐洲國家已經都祭出一些法律就是外國代理人法在進行調查所以如果有再更進一步的情勢狀況我們也會請我們僑民去做跟當地的執法單位提醒通報\n那如果是有涉我的部分我們也會努力的來跟僑團去做溝通因為這兩年確實有一些中共代理人被抓跟起訴那這也形成某種這個親中的僑團有稍微比較這個\n應該說變低調轉趨低調那傳統橋社大家也都是在地資訊都有收集到所以大家對於跟中共方面中領館、使領館的這些互動往來都會刻意的想要保持一些距離不過他們確實是有強化要\n提更多的好處給這些傳統僑社不過我們也在後面都有密切的在溝通跟觀察避免這種往來的金錢遊戲持續的加碼我們不跟他玩這種遊戲的我現在只是想說提醒僑委會就是我們不要跟外交部一樣現在我們台灣的邦交國已經被中共拉攏剩下12個國家了現在還無人為力所以我希望說僑委會這邊我們可以凝聚台灣人的愛國心和向心力讓台灣在國際有生存的空間不要再受到中共的打壓\n好的謝謝林委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.259 --> 00:00.900\n有請委員長林委員你好\n\n00:09.222 --> 00:14.527\n委員長好我們也知道0403花蓮地震其實本市一直都是想要振興花東的災後的觀光的產業其實對這個東西我覺得是我其實是相當的憂心所以也是一直在努力的協助所以我有一些問題想要請教一下委員長請問委員長橋委會目前是不是有針對橋包回台觀光旅遊這是不是有一個哀橋卡\n\n00:34.524 --> 00:37.007\n我們愛僑卡並不是說單純為僑胞的返國旅遊這愛僑卡是比較早以前從2017年那時候叫做認同卡那僑胞認同卡當時的功能性比較不是只有在精神層面的比較不是實務層面但是到2021年我們開始把它變成是從實體卡轉為數位卡\n\n00:57.648 --> 01:19.500\n之後我們開始大量的增加各種功能性的提升包括增加這個所謂的優惠措施就是有特約商店那現在國內跟海外的特約商店有超過4000家好那我再請教一下就是說那目前愛喬卡在花蓮和台東的特約的商店各有多少家請問委員長知道嗎\n\n01:21.901 --> 01:25.243\n花蓮、台東、宜蘭應該這樣講就是整個東台灣的家宿目前大概有將近100家應該這樣講花蓮64家台東31家然後如果加上宜蘭的話大概有150家\n\n01:40.512 --> 02:02.522\n但是我這邊的資料看起來是花蓮只有27家台東只有20家那我再請問一下就是說這些店家如何申請才可以取得愛橋卡的特約商店的情況呢我們可以在網站上我們有加入特約商店的一些SOP作業那如果他有興趣我們就會給他發一個這個標章\n\n02:06.385 --> 02:23.205\n他這個貼紙可以貼在他自己的這個店的門口我們會把它納入我們的網站那同時我們也會去巡查就是說那你要提供什麼樣的優惠措施有些這個等於說我們再多幫他增加一條管道來去做行銷嘛\n\n02:24.386 --> 02:28.229\n那有一些僑胞回來的時候總是想要買一些小禮品或者是飲食食品想要帶出去的那這個部分有愛僑卡的運用會多少增加一些幫助打個九五折九折等等的或者送什麼產品這個都會有一定的幫助所以我們是歡迎花東地區能夠增加因為我現在看我們以花蓮市大部分是以觀光為主\n\n02:51.404 --> 02:59.910\n但是愛喬卡如果照這樣如果是像我剛才所說的27家太少我們就要找出這樣的問題這樣的問題是不是主動申請的人太少有的那個27家可能是舊的資料我們最新的是64家了但是64家還是少嘛所以我們今天就是說是主動申請的少呢還是因為審核我們都沒有辦法過呢基本上他們是可以主動來跟我們說要申請的\n\n03:14.961 --> 03:24.189\n我們基本上我們審核的標準也都不會太高所以幾乎沒有拒絕的除非他不能提供任何優惠他如果不提供任何優惠當然就沒辦法參加我們的愛喬卡特約商店那你可以像累積到現在花蓮和台東提出來的申請愛喬卡特約數量有多少到時候可以目前是95家就是花蓮64然後通過的話是60家這樣就對了不是不是\n\n03:41.405 --> 03:58.083\n已經通過的就已經是95家了在花蓮是64在台東是31那如果再加上宜蘭的話那就更多那100多那我們是歡迎所有的花蓮可能我想東部地區可能比較少店家知道我們有這個愛橋卡啦\n\n03:59.604 --> 04:03.267\n那可能你就要宣傳嘛對不對因為我們通常是對外宣傳比較少對國內宣傳不過國內的知名企業他們都知道來加入我們這個系統所以像義美啦或者是這個阿壽皮茄啦新東洋啦這些知名企業其實我們也有主動去跟他們這個洽那他們也都很願意加入我們這個他們有勸的都很願意加入我們的系統\n\n04:23.584 --> 04:27.667\n我現在還有看到一個就是僑委會113年你們也跟34家旅行業者合作規劃全台各地的人文的特色和觀光的亮點總共有162條的旅遊路線但是我仔細看了一下去年的僑委會雖然有補助了162條路線但是實際上我們花東地區有關這樣的路線只有10條而已而且占不到兩成那委員長你覺得這樣是不是很偏心呢是不是太少呢\n\n04:49.501 --> 05:03.026\n我們沒有偏心啦因為這些路線都是業者自己自行規劃提出的而且去年我們還特別針對花東區因為在403的大地震以後鼓勵僑胞可以繼續來花東地區旅遊我們把補助金額從3000提高到3600其他區都維持3000只有花東我們再多增加600\n\n05:11.789 --> 05:16.471\n可是因為去年的狀況還不是很好所以即便增加了多600塊的補助誘因不是那麼強那委員長你有沒有想過為什麼會成效不佳像剛才我們講到最後就是說成效不佳嘛是不是我們是應該是讓僑胞有比較多選擇的項目呢去加強呢就是像讓他們申請就是店家都來申請嘛然後還是說我們這個規劃的路線太少了呢所以有10條啊所以這個誘因不高所以大家就不會想要去我想跟\n\n05:40.623 --> 05:56.077\n跟這個路線的多少不是重點主要是去年的結構是花東地區的那個地震還是很頻繁那還有就是說交通的需求這個都會影響到僑胞他們回來的這個旅遊意願那畢竟僑胞回來時間有限嘛\n\n06:02.483 --> 06:07.488\n所以他一定要妥善的去安排如果花東如果臨時有什麼取消班次啦或者是取消車班的情況他們就會擔心因此這個也會降低一些意願我想我們會持續照委員的建議來強化多提高我們在花東區的特約商店那今年我們\n\n06:23.602 --> 06:31.208\n照道理因為403的這個地震告一段落我們是不是要持續要補助但是我也同意委員說要鼓勵花東的旅遊所以今年的慶典當中10月份我們對於僑胞的這個旅行我們仍然願意給花東區比較高的補助\n\n06:41.736 --> 06:58.004\n因為現在已經三月份了嘛再過半年雙十國慶就要來了嘛然後到時候會有大量的僑胞回台嘛所以僑委會你現在要如何的改善還有推廣增加僑胞到花東觀光的旅遊的誘因是不是可以積極的都透過一些管道宣傳回國旅遊的時候藉由僑團還是僑委會不過我跟委員再補充一點就是說僑界也跟我們反映啦這個不單只針對花蓮台東而已就是說\n\n07:08.829 --> 07:27.731\n他們也到全世界各地去那對台灣的旅遊他們都有興趣但他們覺得台灣的住房費用偏高這件事情也是他們會覺得不想多去的一個原因所以我們怎麼樣提高品質跟這個價格可以達到一個合理的狀態\n\n07:29.153 --> 07:35.399\n我知道因為協會會的本業本來就是不主管觀光的業務但是畢竟政府團隊是一起的我們都會配合政府的政策當然為了全台灣的人好那當然是要怎麼樣促進大家經濟的發展嘛對不對我們也會在我們網站多幫忙行銷花東地區的這個觀光OK好\n\n07:48.490 --> 07:51.512\n謝謝那委員長我再問一下就是面對中國對台灣甚至對全球採取軟性的文化統戰這個是越來越明顯了甚至打壓台灣在國際的生存的空間然後現在我本席我剛剛今天看了你們的業務報告的第四頁第二點中國運用春節活動展開文化統戰\n\n08:09.245 --> 08:15.507\n近年來中國國僑辦贈送新春暖心包還有一些贈送一些特別的小物給海外的僑胞還有中國使領館的人員也會在春節的時候拜會了傳統的僑社還有並致贈春節的禮金那我想要請教委員長一下就是像你們剛剛自己列的這些目標應該是不是要更積極地掌握各種同戰的情資呢還有我們都會怎麼樣去提醒\n\n08:38.116 --> 08:43.581\n僑團可能會被中共操作成為統戰宣傳的樣本還有怎麼樣面對中共在海外無所不用其極的金錢還有人情的攻勢有沒有更積極還有更有效的因應措施因為我剛才看了這整篇之後我覺得這些做法都是偏於一般的傳統的交流還有應對似乎都是沒有那麼積極\n\n09:00.656 --> 09:20.276\n我們在外都有做第一線的佈局所以我們第一線的同仁跟我們外交單位的人也都會密切去關注跟收集這些情資一旦有一些動作出現我們後面都會跟進來做相關的處理那當然近年因為中共對於全球的統戰跟滲透是\n\n09:22.458 --> 09:35.226\n持續的嚴峻加強所以有些像加拿大或美國歐洲國家已經都祭出一些法律就是外國代理人法在進行調查所以如果有再更進一步的情勢狀況我們也會請我們僑民去做跟當地的執法單位提醒通報\n\n09:42.850 --> 10:00.944\n那如果是有涉我的部分我們也會努力的來跟僑團去做溝通因為這兩年確實有一些中共代理人被抓跟起訴那這也形成某種這個親中的僑團有稍微比較這個\n\n10:04.907 --> 10:22.060\n應該說變低調轉趨低調那傳統橋社大家也都是在地資訊都有收集到所以大家對於跟中共方面中領館、使領館的這些互動往來都會刻意的想要保持一些距離不過他們確實是有強化要\n\n10:24.662 --> 10:33.688\n提更多的好處給這些傳統僑社不過我們也在後面都有密切的在溝通跟觀察避免這種往來的金錢遊戲持續的加碼我們不跟他玩這種遊戲的我現在只是想說提醒僑委會就是我們不要跟外交部一樣現在我們台灣的邦交國已經被中共拉攏剩下12個國家了現在還無人為力所以我希望說僑委會這邊我們可以凝聚台灣人的愛國心和向心力讓台灣在國際有生存的空間不要再受到中共的打壓\n\n10:54.222 --> 10:55.197\n好的謝謝林委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.259,"end":0.9,"text":"有請委員長林委員你好"},{"start":9.222,"end":14.527,"text":"委員長好我們也知道0403花蓮地震其實本市一直都是想要振興花東的災後的觀光的產業其實對這個東西我覺得是我其實是相當的憂心所以也是一直在努力的協助所以我有一些問題想要請教一下委員長請問委員長橋委會目前是不是有針對橋包回台觀光旅遊這是不是有一個哀橋卡"},{"start":34.524,"end":37.007,"text":"我們愛僑卡並不是說單純為僑胞的返國旅遊這愛僑卡是比較早以前從2017年那時候叫做認同卡那僑胞認同卡當時的功能性比較不是只有在精神層面的比較不是實務層面但是到2021年我們開始把它變成是從實體卡轉為數位卡"},{"start":57.648,"end":79.5,"text":"之後我們開始大量的增加各種功能性的提升包括增加這個所謂的優惠措施就是有特約商店那現在國內跟海外的特約商店有超過4000家好那我再請教一下就是說那目前愛喬卡在花蓮和台東的特約的商店各有多少家請問委員長知道嗎"},{"start":81.901,"end":85.243,"text":"花蓮、台東、宜蘭應該這樣講就是整個東台灣的家宿目前大概有將近100家應該這樣講花蓮64家台東31家然後如果加上宜蘭的話大概有150家"},{"start":100.512,"end":122.522,"text":"但是我這邊的資料看起來是花蓮只有27家台東只有20家那我再請問一下就是說這些店家如何申請才可以取得愛橋卡的特約商店的情況呢我們可以在網站上我們有加入特約商店的一些SOP作業那如果他有興趣我們就會給他發一個這個標章"},{"start":126.385,"end":143.205,"text":"他這個貼紙可以貼在他自己的這個店的門口我們會把它納入我們的網站那同時我們也會去巡查就是說那你要提供什麼樣的優惠措施有些這個等於說我們再多幫他增加一條管道來去做行銷嘛"},{"start":144.386,"end":148.229,"text":"那有一些僑胞回來的時候總是想要買一些小禮品或者是飲食食品想要帶出去的那這個部分有愛僑卡的運用會多少增加一些幫助打個九五折九折等等的或者送什麼產品這個都會有一定的幫助所以我們是歡迎花東地區能夠增加因為我現在看我們以花蓮市大部分是以觀光為主"},{"start":171.404,"end":179.91,"text":"但是愛喬卡如果照這樣如果是像我剛才所說的27家太少我們就要找出這樣的問題這樣的問題是不是主動申請的人太少有的那個27家可能是舊的資料我們最新的是64家了但是64家還是少嘛所以我們今天就是說是主動申請的少呢還是因為審核我們都沒有辦法過呢基本上他們是可以主動來跟我們說要申請的"},{"start":194.961,"end":204.189,"text":"我們基本上我們審核的標準也都不會太高所以幾乎沒有拒絕的除非他不能提供任何優惠他如果不提供任何優惠當然就沒辦法參加我們的愛喬卡特約商店那你可以像累積到現在花蓮和台東提出來的申請愛喬卡特約數量有多少到時候可以目前是95家就是花蓮64然後通過的話是60家這樣就對了不是不是"},{"start":221.405,"end":238.083,"text":"已經通過的就已經是95家了在花蓮是64在台東是31那如果再加上宜蘭的話那就更多那100多那我們是歡迎所有的花蓮可能我想東部地區可能比較少店家知道我們有這個愛橋卡啦"},{"start":239.604,"end":243.267,"text":"那可能你就要宣傳嘛對不對因為我們通常是對外宣傳比較少對國內宣傳不過國內的知名企業他們都知道來加入我們這個系統所以像義美啦或者是這個阿壽皮茄啦新東洋啦這些知名企業其實我們也有主動去跟他們這個洽那他們也都很願意加入我們這個他們有勸的都很願意加入我們的系統"},{"start":263.584,"end":267.667,"text":"我現在還有看到一個就是僑委會113年你們也跟34家旅行業者合作規劃全台各地的人文的特色和觀光的亮點總共有162條的旅遊路線但是我仔細看了一下去年的僑委會雖然有補助了162條路線但是實際上我們花東地區有關這樣的路線只有10條而已而且占不到兩成那委員長你覺得這樣是不是很偏心呢是不是太少呢"},{"start":289.501,"end":303.026,"text":"我們沒有偏心啦因為這些路線都是業者自己自行規劃提出的而且去年我們還特別針對花東區因為在403的大地震以後鼓勵僑胞可以繼續來花東地區旅遊我們把補助金額從3000提高到3600其他區都維持3000只有花東我們再多增加600"},{"start":311.789,"end":316.471,"text":"可是因為去年的狀況還不是很好所以即便增加了多600塊的補助誘因不是那麼強那委員長你有沒有想過為什麼會成效不佳像剛才我們講到最後就是說成效不佳嘛是不是我們是應該是讓僑胞有比較多選擇的項目呢去加強呢就是像讓他們申請就是店家都來申請嘛然後還是說我們這個規劃的路線太少了呢所以有10條啊所以這個誘因不高所以大家就不會想要去我想跟"},{"start":340.623,"end":356.077,"text":"跟這個路線的多少不是重點主要是去年的結構是花東地區的那個地震還是很頻繁那還有就是說交通的需求這個都會影響到僑胞他們回來的這個旅遊意願那畢竟僑胞回來時間有限嘛"},{"start":362.483,"end":367.488,"text":"所以他一定要妥善的去安排如果花東如果臨時有什麼取消班次啦或者是取消車班的情況他們就會擔心因此這個也會降低一些意願我想我們會持續照委員的建議來強化多提高我們在花東區的特約商店那今年我們"},{"start":383.602,"end":391.208,"text":"照道理因為403的這個地震告一段落我們是不是要持續要補助但是我也同意委員說要鼓勵花東的旅遊所以今年的慶典當中10月份我們對於僑胞的這個旅行我們仍然願意給花東區比較高的補助"},{"start":401.736,"end":418.004,"text":"因為現在已經三月份了嘛再過半年雙十國慶就要來了嘛然後到時候會有大量的僑胞回台嘛所以僑委會你現在要如何的改善還有推廣增加僑胞到花東觀光的旅遊的誘因是不是可以積極的都透過一些管道宣傳回國旅遊的時候藉由僑團還是僑委會不過我跟委員再補充一點就是說僑界也跟我們反映啦這個不單只針對花蓮台東而已就是說"},{"start":428.829,"end":447.731,"text":"他們也到全世界各地去那對台灣的旅遊他們都有興趣但他們覺得台灣的住房費用偏高這件事情也是他們會覺得不想多去的一個原因所以我們怎麼樣提高品質跟這個價格可以達到一個合理的狀態"},{"start":449.153,"end":455.399,"text":"我知道因為協會會的本業本來就是不主管觀光的業務但是畢竟政府團隊是一起的我們都會配合政府的政策當然為了全台灣的人好那當然是要怎麼樣促進大家經濟的發展嘛對不對我們也會在我們網站多幫忙行銷花東地區的這個觀光OK 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