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00:01:44,562\n是變相的鎖國那教育界也是還是鼓勵這個學子要多多交流那我想請教就是說部長你在1月17號在宗教私務諮詢委員會的會議中也表示兩岸宗教交流要秉持對等尊嚴的原則\n\n5\n00:01:45,322 --> 00:01:56,150\n那請問現在您的對準原則的定義是什麼有沒有現在的交流真的有像賴總統講的有需要有受到中國的干預局統戰嗎謝謝謝謝委員的垂詢\n\n6\n00:02:00,793 --> 00:02:18,146\n我想我的立場都沒有改變對等尊嚴還要加上健康有序那目前內政部在處理兩岸的宗教團體的交流的時候呢如果他是團體性的交流那當然他是要登記要申請為原則我想張委員非常清楚我們上個月我們中國佛教會的這個這個理事長才剛剛原籍那個時候呢他們有邀請這個中國的大山裡面的很多長老\n\n7\n00:02:29,814 --> 00:02:48,203\n到台灣來參加這樣子的原籍的法會的時候所申請的每一位我們都讓他通過到台灣來沒有問題所以健康有序的部分只要他是屬於宗教團體而且是正信不是邪教的話我們都會完全的尊重而且都沒有問題\n\n8\n00:02:48,943 --> 00:02:53,589\n但是重要的部分是我們台灣有一些團體也是宗教團體到中國大陸去的時候到目前為止在安全上面仍然出了狀況譬如說台灣有一貫道還有統一教的幾個教友\n\n9\n00:03:07,085 --> 00:03:30,531\n到目前為止呢仍然是屬於這個沒有自由跟關押的狀態所以我們所說的對等尊嚴跟健康有序我們很希望說兩邊的宗教團體基於宗教交流的原則我們都是開放的而且沒有任何的限制好那部長那我請教一下初步您這邊內政部有提出相關的揭露制度大概會什麼時候公佈嗎\n\n10\n00:03:31,351 --> 00:03:59,837\n那現在宗教團體我想他們最緊張的因為其實就像部長講的現在的交流往來是很順暢的那當然會有一些個案我也希望政府單位要積極的去處理讓保證我們國人的安全其實宗教團體現在出國其實大家國人出國大概都會經過大概都政府都知道出國的人那到底要怎樣的揭露制度那揭露之後是不是人民現在最擔心的台灣是自由民主國家未來是不是要核准\n\n11\n00:04:00,937 --> 00:04:15,089\n才能與大陸交流還是未來以後未來是不是還是只有報備才可以完全沒有所謂的你說說這樣的部分我剛說過了要兩岸要有對等跟尊嚴我們對他們要來的宗教團體其實都是採取開放的態度\n\n12\n00:04:16,630 --> 00:04:34,719\n但是我們過去的團體的時候呢到那個地方就完全轉了向就是基於安全的理由所以我們初步呢我們要先清查一下其實以目前我們現在的這個不管是輔導啦或者是其他的服務辦法都是按照現行的這個制度在走\n\n13\n00:04:35,469 --> 00:04:58,895\n好所以你的意思是說其實還是按照現行的辦法那如果就是說未來的街鬥制度你剛剛沒有提說現在還在演繹當中有沒有預計公佈的時間我們現在是鼓勵他們是登錄鼓勵登錄用鼓勵的方式登錄的方式鼓勵登錄的方式那街鬥跟鼓勵登錄的方式讓人家知道說你到中國大陸去紅磅陣仗的法律的時候那有沒有未來要修\n\n14\n00:05:01,176 --> 00:05:24,690\n什麼任何的法律跟條例嗎目前沒有任何的法律需要修正好謝謝好那下一個問題今天討論的是有關於政府還給勞動七天假及國定假日的修改的部分然後跟部長說明台灣勞工工時這個一年工時破2000根據民調顯示過半的民宿過半的民眾需要回復七天假那請教部長\n\n15\n00:05:25,330 --> 00:05:46,375\n台灣的國定假日相對較亞洲的鄰國較少公使也是在世界排名前段班現在世界第五那根據各委員提案的版本將國定假日提高請問內政部現在有規劃要提高哪一些的假日嗎比如說像之前五一勞動節有要統一放假嗎請問內政部的看法是什麼\n\n16\n00:05:46,875 --> 00:05:56,545\n報告委員我剛提過了我們在內政部所主導的是紀念日跟假日的實施辦法那是否放假的部分的話還是一樣對於勞工他們自己勞工的權益的問題我認為說勞工的權益的問題應該是由勞動部來主責會比較好\n\n17\n00:06:02,196 --> 00:06:18,063\n好所以現在內政部沒有考慮要增加任何一天的放假日報告委員那個勞動節5月1號本來就是勞工團體都放假勞工都放假好所以目前沒有好那下一個問題我要請教勞動部的黃師長理事長理事長好謝謝勞動部次長好謝謝次長有請\n\n18\n00:06:32,022 --> 00:07:01,180\n好謝謝部長請休息好請教勞動部次長那就今天討論了很多的這個國定假日的修改主要還是因為台灣的這個勞工的工時增加的太多了而且是亞洲第五名亞洲前兩名國際第五名那請教一下勞動部針對降低勞工的工時有沒有規劃的任何的進度跟規劃的任何的報告\n\n19\n00:07:02,571 --> 00:07:15,308\n跟委員說明第一那個媒體引用的那個都是所謂台灣勞工的工時全球第五我覺得這個是有點跟事實不一樣跟事實不一樣OECD跟OECD39個國家來比\n\n20\n00:07:19,053 --> 00:07:35,735\n那全世界有200個所以你認為台灣勞工的工時沒有太長2030個小時沒有太長全國第六亞洲第二我認為我們當然我們台灣勞工的工時確實還有讓他讓勞工有更多休息時間的那個努力空間那你們有沒有相對應的辦法跟政策嗎\n\n21\n00:07:36,653 --> 00:08:00,540\n我們現在就是第一我們勞動部的福祉是多年來都有推動讓企業來申請員工與工作與生活平衡的一些補助計畫那每年都有大概500多件的企業來申請第二就是說在工時政策方面我們也希望能夠透過這個最低工資每年的調整因為很多勞工他是希望能夠多加班然後來多賺錢\n\n22\n00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:23,404\n所以我們過去這幾年最低工資每年都調整讓勞工的底薪能夠持續提高事實上這個我們認為我們的調查也是有效的事實上在過去在2021年台灣勞工我們的調查大概有46%的勞工還要加班但到去年已經降到36%事實上這一個狀況我們認為是有它一定的效果\n\n23\n00:08:28,405 --> 00:08:57,023\n好謝謝看來這個次長跟一般的勞工的想法不太一樣其實勞工不是不願意加班時數過少就是因為工作我覺得壓力太大所以勞工現在普遍年輕人他們可能會有自己的一個想法可是我還是要跟這個次長報告還是要想辦法把臺灣勞工的工時給下降那第二個我想請教其實臺灣現在目前還有另外一個問題就是臺灣的這個勞工40%他的特休假沒有放完\n\n24\n00:08:57,503 --> 00:09:14,893\n那很多人說其實現在特休假沒有放完其實基本上來應該要補償這個勞工他的一些的薪資嘛現在法規規定是這樣子可是現在卻沒有相關的一個罰則說如果這個雇主如果未休假的獎金沒有補足的話其實沒有相關的罰則請問次長覺得這樣子對勞工公平嗎\n\n25\n00:09:18,237 --> 00:09:35,386\n跟我的說明照計畫規定如果那個特休沒有放那僱主也不給付的話是要罰的要罰兩萬到一百萬的那現在有在落實嗎當然有我們勞檢都把這個列為重點項目好所以現在那為什麼還是有百分之四十的勞工特休假沒有放完\n\n26\n00:09:36,126 --> 00:09:59,968\n這個我們勞工部的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假的權利但是勞工他在不同的行業工作型態不同他會基於他自己的需要去決定要不要來特休或者來跟雇主要求要來換取現金收入所以我們的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假好那接下來我要想要交通部有來嗎\n\n27\n00:10:03,393 --> 00:10:19,051\n交通部我可以方便請教交通部嗎來等一下齁時間暫停來沒時間好好好來交通部總交委不好意思我們保衛一下時間好差不多收尾囉\n\n28\n00:10:23,971 --> 00:10:49,190\n好不好意思今天要請教交通部那我再請教一下其實也有很多委員還會質疑就是說如果放假日增加是不是有可能導致交通永賽或是旅遊業承載過高是否有相關的配套措施那請教您的部分就是會不會有新增的國定假日導致出遊的旅客人潮變多現行的運能是否充足會不會因為人潮過高導致工作量大增\n\n29\n00:10:50,130 --> 00:11:11,695\n因為我們交通運輸業的話他那個輪班輪休的部分會自己挪移他的那個假日所以應該是不會導致那個人力的那個擁塞的部分那我們本部所屬的這個機構輪班輪休人員現在都是按照公務員服務法跟服勤規範的相關規定來辦理\n\n30\n00:11:14,036 --> 00:11:25,209\n那在假日跟紀念日跟節日的時候也透過放假日的那個條椅跟加班補償的方式然後排定輪班人員出勤以確保民眾分離返鄉跟出遊旅遊的權益\n\n31\n00:11:28,973 --> 00:11:46,100\n應該是不會有影響最後還是要拜託內政部部長就是說有這麼多的委員提出相關的修法版本就代表這是立法院很多的委員大家的共識那也拜託部長可以讓台灣的勞工來做一些相關的修正謝謝以上\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8376\t15140\t好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員各位媒體先進大家早是不是有請劉思芳劉部長劉部長有請委員早好部長早部長這個新的會期第一次質詢希望未來大家一起加油首先我還是要請教部長有關於時事題根據這個賴總統這個3月12號的記者會\n36260\t58182\t跟部長請教其實兩岸宗教團體交流應該要建立揭露的制度這樣子的一個做法是否多此一舉會變成變相鎖國的一個問題因為要跟部長請教其實宗教交流原本是很單純的活動那宗教也是憲法賦予人民的基本權利可是賴總統記者會有提到\n59784\t85556\t他說中國藉由兩岸交流對社會統戰威脅的 滲透的威脅只是內政部就劉氏方部長您要建立宗教團體等公益組織赴中國交流之揭露制度以防渡中國的干預及統戰那其實宗教團體在賴總統的新聞記者會之後其實就已經提出嚴重的反彈他認為說其實這樣子\n88237\t104562\t是變相的鎖國那教育界也是還是鼓勵這個學子要多多交流那我想請教就是說部長你在1月17號在宗教私務諮詢委員會的會議中也表示兩岸宗教交流要秉持對等尊嚴的原則\n105322\t116150\t那請問現在您的對準原則的定義是什麼有沒有現在的交流真的有像賴總統講的有需要有受到中國的干預局統戰嗎謝謝謝謝委員的垂詢\n120793\t138146\t我想我的立場都沒有改變對等尊嚴還要加上健康有序那目前內政部在處理兩岸的宗教團體的交流的時候呢如果他是團體性的交流那當然他是要登記要申請為原則我想張委員非常清楚我們上個月我們中國佛教會的這個這個理事長才剛剛原籍那個時候呢他們有邀請這個中國的大山裡面的很多長老\n149814\t168203\t到台灣來參加這樣子的原籍的法會的時候所申請的每一位我們都讓他通過到台灣來沒有問題所以健康有序的部分只要他是屬於宗教團體而且是正信不是邪教的話我們都會完全的尊重而且都沒有問題\n168943\t173589\t但是重要的部分是我們台灣有一些團體也是宗教團體到中國大陸去的時候到目前為止在安全上面仍然出了狀況譬如說台灣有一貫道還有統一教的幾個教友\n187085\t210531\t到目前為止呢仍然是屬於這個沒有自由跟關押的狀態所以我們所說的對等尊嚴跟健康有序我們很希望說兩邊的宗教團體基於宗教交流的原則我們都是開放的而且沒有任何的限制好那部長那我請教一下初步您這邊內政部有提出相關的揭露制度大概會什麼時候公佈嗎\n211351\t239837\t那現在宗教團體我想他們最緊張的因為其實就像部長講的現在的交流往來是很順暢的那當然會有一些個案我也希望政府單位要積極的去處理讓保證我們國人的安全其實宗教團體現在出國其實大家國人出國大概都會經過大概都政府都知道出國的人那到底要怎樣的揭露制度那揭露之後是不是人民現在最擔心的台灣是自由民主國家未來是不是要核准\n240937\t255089\t才能與大陸交流還是未來以後未來是不是還是只有報備才可以完全沒有所謂的你說說這樣的部分我剛說過了要兩岸要有對等跟尊嚴我們對他們要來的宗教團體其實都是採取開放的態度\n256630\t274719\t但是我們過去的團體的時候呢到那個地方就完全轉了向就是基於安全的理由所以我們初步呢我們要先清查一下其實以目前我們現在的這個不管是輔導啦或者是其他的服務辦法都是按照現行的這個制度在走\n275469\t298895\t好所以你的意思是說其實還是按照現行的辦法那如果就是說未來的街鬥制度你剛剛沒有提說現在還在演繹當中有沒有預計公佈的時間我們現在是鼓勵他們是登錄鼓勵登錄用鼓勵的方式登錄的方式鼓勵登錄的方式那街鬥跟鼓勵登錄的方式讓人家知道說你到中國大陸去紅磅陣仗的法律的時候那有沒有未來要修\n301176\t324690\t什麼任何的法律跟條例嗎目前沒有任何的法律需要修正好謝謝好那下一個問題今天討論的是有關於政府還給勞動七天假及國定假日的修改的部分然後跟部長說明台灣勞工工時這個一年工時破2000根據民調顯示過半的民宿過半的民眾需要回復七天假那請教部長\n325330\t346375\t台灣的國定假日相對較亞洲的鄰國較少公使也是在世界排名前段班現在世界第五那根據各委員提案的版本將國定假日提高請問內政部現在有規劃要提高哪一些的假日嗎比如說像之前五一勞動節有要統一放假嗎請問內政部的看法是什麼\n346875\t356545\t報告委員我剛提過了我們在內政部所主導的是紀念日跟假日的實施辦法那是否放假的部分的話還是一樣對於勞工他們自己勞工的權益的問題我認為說勞工的權益的問題應該是由勞動部來主責會比較好\n362196\t378063\t好所以現在內政部沒有考慮要增加任何一天的放假日報告委員那個勞動節5月1號本來就是勞工團體都放假勞工都放假好所以目前沒有好那下一個問題我要請教勞動部的黃師長理事長理事長好謝謝勞動部次長好謝謝次長有請\n392022\t421180\t好 謝謝 部長請休息好 請教勞動部次長那就今天討論了很多的這個國定假日的修改主要還是因為台灣的這個勞工的工時增加的太多了而且是亞洲第五名亞洲前兩名 國際第五名那請教一下勞動部針對降低勞工的工時有沒有規劃的任何的進度跟規劃的任何的報告\n422571\t435308\t跟委員說明第一那個媒體引用的那個都是所謂台灣勞工的工時全球第五我覺得這個是有點跟事實不一樣跟事實不一樣OECD跟OECD39個國家來比\n439053\t455735\t那全世界有200個所以你認為台灣勞工的工時沒有太長2030個小時沒有太長全國第六亞洲第二我認為我們當然我們台灣勞工的工時確實還有讓他讓勞工有更多休息時間的那個努力空間那你們有沒有相對應的辦法跟政策嗎\n456653\t480540\t我們現在就是第一我們勞動部的福祉是多年來都有推動讓企業來申請員工與工作與生活平衡的一些補助計畫那每年都有大概500多件的企業來申請第二就是說在工時政策方面我們也希望能夠透過這個最低工資每年的調整因為很多勞工他是希望能夠多加班然後來多賺錢\n481480\t503404\t所以我們過去這幾年最低工資每年都調整讓勞工的底薪能夠持續提高事實上這個我們認為我們的調查也是有效的事實上在過去在2021年台灣勞工我們的調查大概有46%的勞工還要加班但到去年已經降到36%事實上這一個狀況我們認為是有它一定的效果\n508405\t537023\t好 謝謝看來這個次長跟一般的勞工的想法不太一樣其實勞工不是不願意加班時數過少就是因為工作我覺得壓力太大所以勞工現在普遍年輕人他們可能會有自己的一個想法可是我還是要跟這個次長報告還是要想辦法把臺灣勞工的工時給下降那第二個我想請教其實臺灣現在目前還有另外一個問題就是臺灣的這個勞工40%他的特休假沒有放完\n537503\t554893\t那很多人說其實現在特休假沒有放完其實基本上來應該要補償這個勞工他的一些的薪資嘛現在法規規定是這樣子可是現在卻沒有相關的一個罰則說如果這個雇主如果未休假的獎金沒有補足的話其實沒有相關的罰則請問次長覺得這樣子對勞工公平嗎\n558237\t575386\t跟我的說明照計畫規定如果那個特休沒有放那僱主也不給付的話是要罰的要罰兩萬到一百萬的那現在有在落實嗎當然有我們勞檢都把這個列為重點項目好所以現在那為什麼還是有百分之四十的勞工特休假沒有放完\n576126\t599968\t這個我們勞工部的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假的權利但是勞工他在不同的行業工作型態不同他會基於他自己的需要去決定要不要來特休或者來跟雇主要求要來換取現金收入所以我們的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假好那接下來我要想要交通部有來嗎\n603393\t619051\t交通部我可以方便請教交通部嗎來等一下齁時間暫停來沒時間好好好來交通部總交委不好意思我們保衛一下時間好差不多收尾囉\n623971\t649190\t好不好意思今天要請教交通部那我再請教一下其實也有很多委員還會質疑就是說如果放假日增加是不是有可能導致交通永賽或是旅遊業承載過高是否有相關的配套措施那請教您的部分就是會不會有新增的國定假日導致出遊的旅客人潮變多現行的運能是否充足會不會因為人潮過高導致工作量大增\n650130\t671695\t因為我們交通運輸業的話他那個輪班輪休的部分會自己挪移他的那個假日所以應該是不會導致那個人力的那個擁塞的部分那我們本部所屬的這個機構輪班輪休人員現在都是按照公務員服務法跟服勤規範的相關規定來辦理\n674036\t685209\t那在假日跟紀念日跟節日的時候也透過放假日的那個條椅跟加班補償的方式然後排定輪班人員出勤以確保民眾分離返鄉跟出遊旅遊的權益\n688973\t706100\t應該是不會有影響最後還是要拜託內政部部長就是說有這麼多的委員提出相關的修法版本就代表這是立法院很多的委員大家的共識那也拜託部長可以讓台灣的勞工來做一些相關的修正謝謝 以上\n","txt":"好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員各位媒體先進大家早是不是有請劉思芳劉部長劉部長有請委員早好部長早部長這個新的會期第一次質詢希望未來大家一起加油首先我還是要請教部長有關於時事題根據這個賴總統這個3月12號的記者會\n跟部長請教其實兩岸宗教團體交流應該要建立揭露的制度這樣子的一個做法是否多此一舉會變成變相鎖國的一個問題因為要跟部長請教其實宗教交流原本是很單純的活動那宗教也是憲法賦予人民的基本權利可是賴總統記者會有提到\n他說中國藉由兩岸交流對社會統戰威脅的 滲透的威脅只是內政部就劉氏方部長您要建立宗教團體等公益組織赴中國交流之揭露制度以防渡中國的干預及統戰那其實宗教團體在賴總統的新聞記者會之後其實就已經提出嚴重的反彈他認為說其實這樣子\n是變相的鎖國那教育界也是還是鼓勵這個學子要多多交流那我想請教就是說部長你在1月17號在宗教私務諮詢委員會的會議中也表示兩岸宗教交流要秉持對等尊嚴的原則\n那請問現在您的對準原則的定義是什麼有沒有現在的交流真的有像賴總統講的有需要有受到中國的干預局統戰嗎謝謝謝謝委員的垂詢\n我想我的立場都沒有改變對等尊嚴還要加上健康有序那目前內政部在處理兩岸的宗教團體的交流的時候呢如果他是團體性的交流那當然他是要登記要申請為原則我想張委員非常清楚我們上個月我們中國佛教會的這個這個理事長才剛剛原籍那個時候呢他們有邀請這個中國的大山裡面的很多長老\n到台灣來參加這樣子的原籍的法會的時候所申請的每一位我們都讓他通過到台灣來沒有問題所以健康有序的部分只要他是屬於宗教團體而且是正信不是邪教的話我們都會完全的尊重而且都沒有問題\n但是重要的部分是我們台灣有一些團體也是宗教團體到中國大陸去的時候到目前為止在安全上面仍然出了狀況譬如說台灣有一貫道還有統一教的幾個教友\n到目前為止呢仍然是屬於這個沒有自由跟關押的狀態所以我們所說的對等尊嚴跟健康有序我們很希望說兩邊的宗教團體基於宗教交流的原則我們都是開放的而且沒有任何的限制好那部長那我請教一下初步您這邊內政部有提出相關的揭露制度大概會什麼時候公佈嗎\n那現在宗教團體我想他們最緊張的因為其實就像部長講的現在的交流往來是很順暢的那當然會有一些個案我也希望政府單位要積極的去處理讓保證我們國人的安全其實宗教團體現在出國其實大家國人出國大概都會經過大概都政府都知道出國的人那到底要怎樣的揭露制度那揭露之後是不是人民現在最擔心的台灣是自由民主國家未來是不是要核准\n才能與大陸交流還是未來以後未來是不是還是只有報備才可以完全沒有所謂的你說說這樣的部分我剛說過了要兩岸要有對等跟尊嚴我們對他們要來的宗教團體其實都是採取開放的態度\n但是我們過去的團體的時候呢到那個地方就完全轉了向就是基於安全的理由所以我們初步呢我們要先清查一下其實以目前我們現在的這個不管是輔導啦或者是其他的服務辦法都是按照現行的這個制度在走\n好所以你的意思是說其實還是按照現行的辦法那如果就是說未來的街鬥制度你剛剛沒有提說現在還在演繹當中有沒有預計公佈的時間我們現在是鼓勵他們是登錄鼓勵登錄用鼓勵的方式登錄的方式鼓勵登錄的方式那街鬥跟鼓勵登錄的方式讓人家知道說你到中國大陸去紅磅陣仗的法律的時候那有沒有未來要修\n什麼任何的法律跟條例嗎目前沒有任何的法律需要修正好謝謝好那下一個問題今天討論的是有關於政府還給勞動七天假及國定假日的修改的部分然後跟部長說明台灣勞工工時這個一年工時破2000根據民調顯示過半的民宿過半的民眾需要回復七天假那請教部長\n台灣的國定假日相對較亞洲的鄰國較少公使也是在世界排名前段班現在世界第五那根據各委員提案的版本將國定假日提高請問內政部現在有規劃要提高哪一些的假日嗎比如說像之前五一勞動節有要統一放假嗎請問內政部的看法是什麼\n報告委員我剛提過了我們在內政部所主導的是紀念日跟假日的實施辦法那是否放假的部分的話還是一樣對於勞工他們自己勞工的權益的問題我認為說勞工的權益的問題應該是由勞動部來主責會比較好\n好所以現在內政部沒有考慮要增加任何一天的放假日報告委員那個勞動節5月1號本來就是勞工團體都放假勞工都放假好所以目前沒有好那下一個問題我要請教勞動部的黃師長理事長理事長好謝謝勞動部次長好謝謝次長有請\n好 謝謝 部長請休息好 請教勞動部次長那就今天討論了很多的這個國定假日的修改主要還是因為台灣的這個勞工的工時增加的太多了而且是亞洲第五名亞洲前兩名 國際第五名那請教一下勞動部針對降低勞工的工時有沒有規劃的任何的進度跟規劃的任何的報告\n跟委員說明第一那個媒體引用的那個都是所謂台灣勞工的工時全球第五我覺得這個是有點跟事實不一樣跟事實不一樣OECD跟OECD39個國家來比\n那全世界有200個所以你認為台灣勞工的工時沒有太長2030個小時沒有太長全國第六亞洲第二我認為我們當然我們台灣勞工的工時確實還有讓他讓勞工有更多休息時間的那個努力空間那你們有沒有相對應的辦法跟政策嗎\n我們現在就是第一我們勞動部的福祉是多年來都有推動讓企業來申請員工與工作與生活平衡的一些補助計畫那每年都有大概500多件的企業來申請第二就是說在工時政策方面我們也希望能夠透過這個最低工資每年的調整因為很多勞工他是希望能夠多加班然後來多賺錢\n所以我們過去這幾年最低工資每年都調整讓勞工的底薪能夠持續提高事實上這個我們認為我們的調查也是有效的事實上在過去在2021年台灣勞工我們的調查大概有46%的勞工還要加班但到去年已經降到36%事實上這一個狀況我們認為是有它一定的效果\n好 謝謝看來這個次長跟一般的勞工的想法不太一樣其實勞工不是不願意加班時數過少就是因為工作我覺得壓力太大所以勞工現在普遍年輕人他們可能會有自己的一個想法可是我還是要跟這個次長報告還是要想辦法把臺灣勞工的工時給下降那第二個我想請教其實臺灣現在目前還有另外一個問題就是臺灣的這個勞工40%他的特休假沒有放完\n那很多人說其實現在特休假沒有放完其實基本上來應該要補償這個勞工他的一些的薪資嘛現在法規規定是這樣子可是現在卻沒有相關的一個罰則說如果這個雇主如果未休假的獎金沒有補足的話其實沒有相關的罰則請問次長覺得這樣子對勞工公平嗎\n跟我的說明照計畫規定如果那個特休沒有放那僱主也不給付的話是要罰的要罰兩萬到一百萬的那現在有在落實嗎當然有我們勞檢都把這個列為重點項目好所以現在那為什麼還是有百分之四十的勞工特休假沒有放完\n這個我們勞工部的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假的權利但是勞工他在不同的行業工作型態不同他會基於他自己的需要去決定要不要來特休或者來跟雇主要求要來換取現金收入所以我們的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假好那接下來我要想要交通部有來嗎\n交通部我可以方便請教交通部嗎來等一下齁時間暫停來沒時間好好好來交通部總交委不好意思我們保衛一下時間好差不多收尾囉\n好不好意思今天要請教交通部那我再請教一下其實也有很多委員還會質疑就是說如果放假日增加是不是有可能導致交通永賽或是旅遊業承載過高是否有相關的配套措施那請教您的部分就是會不會有新增的國定假日導致出遊的旅客人潮變多現行的運能是否充足會不會因為人潮過高導致工作量大增\n因為我們交通運輸業的話他那個輪班輪休的部分會自己挪移他的那個假日所以應該是不會導致那個人力的那個擁塞的部分那我們本部所屬的這個機構輪班輪休人員現在都是按照公務員服務法跟服勤規範的相關規定來辦理\n那在假日跟紀念日跟節日的時候也透過放假日的那個條椅跟加班補償的方式然後排定輪班人員出勤以確保民眾分離返鄉跟出遊旅遊的權益\n應該是不會有影響最後還是要拜託內政部部長就是說有這麼多的委員提出相關的修法版本就代表這是立法院很多的委員大家的共識那也拜託部長可以讓台灣的勞工來做一些相關的修正謝謝 以上\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.376 --> 00:15.140\n好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員各位媒體先進大家早是不是有請劉思芳劉部長劉部長有請委員早好部長早部長這個新的會期第一次質詢希望未來大家一起加油首先我還是要請教部長有關於時事題根據這個賴總統這個3月12號的記者會\n\n00:36.260 --> 00:58.182\n跟部長請教其實兩岸宗教團體交流應該要建立揭露的制度這樣子的一個做法是否多此一舉會變成變相鎖國的一個問題因為要跟部長請教其實宗教交流原本是很單純的活動那宗教也是憲法賦予人民的基本權利可是賴總統記者會有提到\n\n00:59.784 --> 01:25.556\n他說中國藉由兩岸交流對社會統戰威脅的滲透的威脅只是內政部就劉氏方部長您要建立宗教團體等公益組織赴中國交流之揭露制度以防渡中國的干預及統戰那其實宗教團體在賴總統的新聞記者會之後其實就已經提出嚴重的反彈他認為說其實這樣子\n\n01:28.237 --> 01:44.562\n是變相的鎖國那教育界也是還是鼓勵這個學子要多多交流那我想請教就是說部長你在1月17號在宗教私務諮詢委員會的會議中也表示兩岸宗教交流要秉持對等尊嚴的原則\n\n01:45.322 --> 01:56.150\n那請問現在您的對準原則的定義是什麼有沒有現在的交流真的有像賴總統講的有需要有受到中國的干預局統戰嗎謝謝謝謝委員的垂詢\n\n02:00.793 --> 02:18.146\n我想我的立場都沒有改變對等尊嚴還要加上健康有序那目前內政部在處理兩岸的宗教團體的交流的時候呢如果他是團體性的交流那當然他是要登記要申請為原則我想張委員非常清楚我們上個月我們中國佛教會的這個這個理事長才剛剛原籍那個時候呢他們有邀請這個中國的大山裡面的很多長老\n\n02:29.814 --> 02:48.203\n到台灣來參加這樣子的原籍的法會的時候所申請的每一位我們都讓他通過到台灣來沒有問題所以健康有序的部分只要他是屬於宗教團體而且是正信不是邪教的話我們都會完全的尊重而且都沒有問題\n\n02:48.943 --> 02:53.589\n但是重要的部分是我們台灣有一些團體也是宗教團體到中國大陸去的時候到目前為止在安全上面仍然出了狀況譬如說台灣有一貫道還有統一教的幾個教友\n\n03:07.085 --> 03:30.531\n到目前為止呢仍然是屬於這個沒有自由跟關押的狀態所以我們所說的對等尊嚴跟健康有序我們很希望說兩邊的宗教團體基於宗教交流的原則我們都是開放的而且沒有任何的限制好那部長那我請教一下初步您這邊內政部有提出相關的揭露制度大概會什麼時候公佈嗎\n\n03:31.351 --> 03:59.837\n那現在宗教團體我想他們最緊張的因為其實就像部長講的現在的交流往來是很順暢的那當然會有一些個案我也希望政府單位要積極的去處理讓保證我們國人的安全其實宗教團體現在出國其實大家國人出國大概都會經過大概都政府都知道出國的人那到底要怎樣的揭露制度那揭露之後是不是人民現在最擔心的台灣是自由民主國家未來是不是要核准\n\n04:00.937 --> 04:15.089\n才能與大陸交流還是未來以後未來是不是還是只有報備才可以完全沒有所謂的你說說這樣的部分我剛說過了要兩岸要有對等跟尊嚴我們對他們要來的宗教團體其實都是採取開放的態度\n\n04:16.630 --> 04:34.719\n但是我們過去的團體的時候呢到那個地方就完全轉了向就是基於安全的理由所以我們初步呢我們要先清查一下其實以目前我們現在的這個不管是輔導啦或者是其他的服務辦法都是按照現行的這個制度在走\n\n04:35.469 --> 04:58.895\n好所以你的意思是說其實還是按照現行的辦法那如果就是說未來的街鬥制度你剛剛沒有提說現在還在演繹當中有沒有預計公佈的時間我們現在是鼓勵他們是登錄鼓勵登錄用鼓勵的方式登錄的方式鼓勵登錄的方式那街鬥跟鼓勵登錄的方式讓人家知道說你到中國大陸去紅磅陣仗的法律的時候那有沒有未來要修\n\n05:01.176 --> 05:24.690\n什麼任何的法律跟條例嗎目前沒有任何的法律需要修正好謝謝好那下一個問題今天討論的是有關於政府還給勞動七天假及國定假日的修改的部分然後跟部長說明台灣勞工工時這個一年工時破2000根據民調顯示過半的民宿過半的民眾需要回復七天假那請教部長\n\n05:25.330 --> 05:46.375\n台灣的國定假日相對較亞洲的鄰國較少公使也是在世界排名前段班現在世界第五那根據各委員提案的版本將國定假日提高請問內政部現在有規劃要提高哪一些的假日嗎比如說像之前五一勞動節有要統一放假嗎請問內政部的看法是什麼\n\n05:46.875 --> 05:56.545\n報告委員我剛提過了我們在內政部所主導的是紀念日跟假日的實施辦法那是否放假的部分的話還是一樣對於勞工他們自己勞工的權益的問題我認為說勞工的權益的問題應該是由勞動部來主責會比較好\n\n06:02.196 --> 06:18.063\n好所以現在內政部沒有考慮要增加任何一天的放假日報告委員那個勞動節5月1號本來就是勞工團體都放假勞工都放假好所以目前沒有好那下一個問題我要請教勞動部的黃師長理事長理事長好謝謝勞動部次長好謝謝次長有請\n\n06:32.022 --> 07:01.180\n好謝謝部長請休息好請教勞動部次長那就今天討論了很多的這個國定假日的修改主要還是因為台灣的這個勞工的工時增加的太多了而且是亞洲第五名亞洲前兩名國際第五名那請教一下勞動部針對降低勞工的工時有沒有規劃的任何的進度跟規劃的任何的報告\n\n07:02.571 --> 07:15.308\n跟委員說明第一那個媒體引用的那個都是所謂台灣勞工的工時全球第五我覺得這個是有點跟事實不一樣跟事實不一樣OECD跟OECD39個國家來比\n\n07:19.053 --> 07:35.735\n那全世界有200個所以你認為台灣勞工的工時沒有太長2030個小時沒有太長全國第六亞洲第二我認為我們當然我們台灣勞工的工時確實還有讓他讓勞工有更多休息時間的那個努力空間那你們有沒有相對應的辦法跟政策嗎\n\n07:36.653 --> 08:00.540\n我們現在就是第一我們勞動部的福祉是多年來都有推動讓企業來申請員工與工作與生活平衡的一些補助計畫那每年都有大概500多件的企業來申請第二就是說在工時政策方面我們也希望能夠透過這個最低工資每年的調整因為很多勞工他是希望能夠多加班然後來多賺錢\n\n08:01.480 --> 08:23.404\n所以我們過去這幾年最低工資每年都調整讓勞工的底薪能夠持續提高事實上這個我們認為我們的調查也是有效的事實上在過去在2021年台灣勞工我們的調查大概有46%的勞工還要加班但到去年已經降到36%事實上這一個狀況我們認為是有它一定的效果\n\n08:28.405 --> 08:57.023\n好謝謝看來這個次長跟一般的勞工的想法不太一樣其實勞工不是不願意加班時數過少就是因為工作我覺得壓力太大所以勞工現在普遍年輕人他們可能會有自己的一個想法可是我還是要跟這個次長報告還是要想辦法把臺灣勞工的工時給下降那第二個我想請教其實臺灣現在目前還有另外一個問題就是臺灣的這個勞工40%他的特休假沒有放完\n\n08:57.503 --> 09:14.893\n那很多人說其實現在特休假沒有放完其實基本上來應該要補償這個勞工他的一些的薪資嘛現在法規規定是這樣子可是現在卻沒有相關的一個罰則說如果這個雇主如果未休假的獎金沒有補足的話其實沒有相關的罰則請問次長覺得這樣子對勞工公平嗎\n\n09:18.237 --> 09:35.386\n跟我的說明照計畫規定如果那個特休沒有放那僱主也不給付的話是要罰的要罰兩萬到一百萬的那現在有在落實嗎當然有我們勞檢都把這個列為重點項目好所以現在那為什麼還是有百分之四十的勞工特休假沒有放完\n\n09:36.126 --> 09:59.968\n這個我們勞工部的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假的權利但是勞工他在不同的行業工作型態不同他會基於他自己的需要去決定要不要來特休或者來跟雇主要求要來換取現金收入所以我們的立場是希望勞工能夠善用他的特休假好那接下來我要想要交通部有來嗎\n\n10:03.393 --> 10:19.051\n交通部我可以方便請教交通部嗎來等一下齁時間暫停來沒時間好好好來交通部總交委不好意思我們保衛一下時間好差不多收尾囉\n\n10:23.971 --> 10:49.190\n好不好意思今天要請教交通部那我再請教一下其實也有很多委員還會質疑就是說如果放假日增加是不是有可能導致交通永賽或是旅遊業承載過高是否有相關的配套措施那請教您的部分就是會不會有新增的國定假日導致出遊的旅客人潮變多現行的運能是否充足會不會因為人潮過高導致工作量大增\n\n10:50.130 --> 11:11.695\n因為我們交通運輸業的話他那個輪班輪休的部分會自己挪移他的那個假日所以應該是不會導致那個人力的那個擁塞的部分那我們本部所屬的這個機構輪班輪休人員現在都是按照公務員服務法跟服勤規範的相關規定來辦理\n\n11:14.036 --> 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謝謝 部長請休息好 請教勞動部次長那就今天討論了很多的這個國定假日的修改主要還是因為台灣的這個勞工的工時增加的太多了而且是亞洲第五名亞洲前兩名 國際第五名那請教一下勞動部針對降低勞工的工時有沒有規劃的任何的進度跟規劃的任何的報告"},{"start":422.571,"end":435.308,"text":"跟委員說明第一那個媒體引用的那個都是所謂台灣勞工的工時全球第五我覺得這個是有點跟事實不一樣跟事實不一樣OECD跟OECD39個國家來比"},{"start":439.053,"end":455.735,"text":"那全世界有200個所以你認為台灣勞工的工時沒有太長2030個小時沒有太長全國第六亞洲第二我認為我們當然我們台灣勞工的工時確實還有讓他讓勞工有更多休息時間的那個努力空間那你們有沒有相對應的辦法跟政策嗎"},{"start":456.653,"end":480.54,"text":"我們現在就是第一我們勞動部的福祉是多年來都有推動讓企業來申請員工與工作與生活平衡的一些補助計畫那每年都有大概500多件的企業來申請第二就是說在工時政策方面我們也希望能夠透過這個最低工資每年的調整因為很多勞工他是希望能夠多加班然後來多賺錢"},{"start":481.48,"end":503.404,"text":"所以我們過去這幾年最低工資每年都調整讓勞工的底薪能夠持續提高事實上這個我們認為我們的調查也是有效的事實上在過去在2021年台灣勞工我們的調查大概有46%的勞工還要加班但到去年已經降到36%事實上這一個狀況我們認為是有它一定的效果"},{"start":508.405,"end":537.023,"text":"好 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Kacaw","李彥秀","李坤城","葉元之","陳瑩"],"page_start":317,"meetingDate":["2025-03-17"],"gazette_id":"1142701","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1142701_00008"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第3次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"一、審查委員賴士葆等22人擬具「紀念日及節日實施法草案」案；二、審查委員高金素梅等18人\n擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；三、審查委員陳瑩等16人擬具「國假暨文化節日實施條\n例草案」案；四、審查委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等17人擬具「國家紀念日及節日實施法\n草案」案；五、審查委員牛煦庭等22人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；六、審查委員陳\n玉珍等16 人擬具「中華民國國定紀念日與節日實施法草案」案；七、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；八、審查委員鄭天財 Sra Kacaw 等18人擬具「國家紀念日及\n節日實施法草案」案；九、審查委員王鴻薇等19 人擬具「國家紀念日及節日實施法草案」案；\n十、審查委員許宇甄等19人擬具「紀念日及節日實施法草案」案；十一、審查委員楊瓊瓔等31人\n擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；十二、審查委員林思銘等20人擬具「紀念日及節日實施\n條例草案」案；十三、審查委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；十四、審\n查委員葉元之等21人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；十五、審查委員林倩綺等20人擬具\n「國家紀念日及節日實施法草案」案；十六、審查委員許智傑等30人擬具「國定紀念日及節日實\n施條例草案」案；十七、審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；十八、\n審查委員羅廷瑋等23人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案；十九、審查委員洪孟楷等16人擬\n具「國定假日法草案」案；二十、審查委員張智倫等18人擬具「紀念日及節日實施條例草案」案\n【僅詢答及宣讀條文】","agenda_id":"1142701_00007"}}}