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00:00:42,028\n好主委我過去一整年不對是一年多都一直在跟國科會討論關於兒少自殺的死因回溯很開心國科會當時就承諾了會進行後續的研究確實我們辦公室也收到了好幾次的會議通知我們確實開會了很多的實質內容這個部分真的要感謝國科會願意以國家的力量來研究來協助支持我們台灣的大人去理解兒少身心狀況的改變\n\n3\n00:00:43,109 --> 00:01:04,156\n但是我想問一下目前的進度時間有限我們直接跳到這一張目前給我們的書面回覆說因為有人事調動新來的黃處長2月17才到任我們知道在業務交接上應該還有一些理解的困難跟落差那可不可以請主委這邊快速讓我們知道一下這個案子會不會持續然後後續的進度規劃因為你們在研究計畫當中提到會有AI的部分\n\n4\n00:01:07,697 --> 00:01:24,793\n那我想AI的部分到底适不适合你们的专家学者应该有一些讨论但我想我还是要提醒而上死因回溯这件事情他必须要处理的伦理议题也好专业议题也好或者是研究方法也好其实我相信有更多专家学者可以参与这边是不是可以请国科会这边简单回应一下\n\n5\n00:01:25,478 --> 00:01:52,625\n好謝謝陳委員我們絕對支持我請新來的黃處長好那處長我時間有限可不可以請您簡單快速回覆我想我們之後會可以繼續開會討論是跟委員報告就這個計劃案就是我們目前從113年啟動之後事實上關於這個結合AI的這個實務研究還有特別針對這兒少在心理危機還有自殺風險的分析這目前都就正在\n\n6\n00:01:53,906 --> 00:02:20,149\n進行當中相信不久應該就會有一個比較清楚的輪廓好那我想不管是輪廓或是後續研究推進的進度或者是我們多久要產出一些報告不管是長期的短期的我們都非常期待看到透過研究來讓我們台灣的大人理解兒少身心健康的議題那可能也讓教育部或衛福部在做成相關政策的時候有非常重要的參考依據這部分謝謝國科會我們一起繼續努力好\n\n7\n00:02:20,589 --> 00:02:36,036\n接下來我也一直在談科普這件事情我知道我們有新的相關的主任然後也有相關新的想像但是我還是要強調關於科普不會只有活動這件事情那我想我們就負責任的來提出一些建議來看下一張\n\n8\n00:02:37,717 --> 00:03:01,643\n其實我們之前一直談過除了活動之外其實還有所謂的科學傳播跟知識轉譯那所謂科學傳播跟知識轉譯有哪些呢我們就舉一些例子來這個是新的例子就是從科技部轉到國科會被放生的SMC台灣科技媒體中心的計畫我想那個時候主委您還不在可能對於這個事情沒有記憶但我跟您簡單說一下2027到2021當時是在科技部的計畫支持下成立\n\n9\n00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:30,069\n後來呢到了2022年科技部只有一個一年計畫後來到2023年主改為國科會之後就停止支持這個項目的工作到目前為止台灣科技媒體中心居然是由新穎寺民主基金會在支持台灣的這個台灣科技媒體中心做的相關的研究跟報導不知道這個部分主委您怎麼看\n\n10\n00:03:32,422 --> 00:03:51,877\n這個項目其實我並不清楚對我剛一開始就有說那我這邊提出來還是我先幫我回到上一張頭影片我這邊之所以提出來就是我屢次都強調活動當然很棒而且越來越好之前有非常多委員提醒了不要有過度的宣傳的費用造成了好像只有宣傳的沒有實質活動所以我們非常謝謝你\n\n11\n00:03:52,677 --> 00:04:14,743\n李老師在您到任之後您確實實質改善了很多事情那我們現在就是進一步想要拜託國科會傳播的部分知識轉移的部分我相信我們可以一起來努力往下一章所以我才會提出台灣SMC這件事情那我相信主委您是不清楚的沒關係我們之後再來進一步討論好謝謝委員好這個部分我們會追蹤那下一個其實科普政策\n\n12\n00:04:15,843 --> 00:04:21,914\n還有另外一個事情就是獎項規劃的部分目前國客會我跟你們說過的獎項的部分我覺得好像現在還是處於一個搭便車的狀態沒有實質的推進這個部分主委可不可以回應一下\n\n13\n00:04:35,157 --> 00:04:45,083\n抱歉委員我沒有聽懂這個問題就是在你們自己的諮詢委員會當中我們談到所謂科普工作者設定一個獎項來鼓勵對然後你們的諮詢委員會真的很棒開啟了討論那在會議當中委員們也都很支持委員說\n\n14\n00:04:53,308 --> 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