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00:00:44,107\n委員長主委高鐵延伸宜蘭這是對於整個環台高快速路網一個很重要的一個區塊那對於這個近期內我們對於這個高鐵要延伸宜蘭也有許多討論的一個過程那總經費也從一開始的近千億到現在已經上看可能要到四千億了\n\n3\n00:00:44,847 --> 00:01:14,125\n那現在在坊間常常都會聽到一句話就是說現在不做以後就會後悔那我相信這個對於這個我們這個國家的一個重大建設的一個推動我覺得應該是永續的一個進步的一個程序那礙於這個財化法的這個修正我們現在擔心這個高鐵延伸到宜蘭的部分相關的期程會不會延誤到\n\n4\n00:01:15,781 --> 00:01:39,861\n給委員報告因為北北基於成為一個台北市首都生活圈的一個這樣的計畫所以關於交通高鐵延伸宜蘭市是有其必要所以也是行政院的重大政策那我是工程委員會的主任委員我當然有權利來督導或來建立或來指示\n\n5\n00:01:41,673 --> 00:02:02,738\n這一這個國家的重大建設那因為我擔任政務委員同時也督導交通部內政部環境部所以我當然也希望這個國家的重大建設如期如止的來完成那目前的進度就是環境影響評估報告書二階的部分交通部鐵道局已經完成了那麼送環境部來審查\n\n6\n00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:25,748\n那因為這個高鐵是當初直線鐵路可行研究的替代方案所以後來鐵道局也補了一個修正計畫就是說這個可行的修正計畫它繞過翡翠水庫的這個集水區目前都在進行中那所以呢我因為這樣的角色\n\n7\n00:02:26,468 --> 00:02:50,316\n我督導這樣的一個工程我們希望這個工程如期就是希望他這個今年啦年底之前行政院能夠核定那核定之前呢必須要通過環評所以我對於環評呢也希望如果沒有其他問題希望他能夠獨立來環評委員會是獨立審查嘛合一審查所以如果沒有相關的問題希望他能夠\n\n8\n00:02:52,677 --> 00:03:14,787\n來競速來審查審議這個環評案所以目前進度不會受影響好謝謝主委我希望說這個高鐵延伸宜蘭的部分一定無論如何要拜託主委那個督導的部分一定要落實為什麼因為不能再等了已經等那麼久了那好不容易我們已經走到這個階段了\n\n9\n00:03:17,528 --> 00:03:33,816\n這我相信是所有宜蘭人引頸期盼對外的一條高快速的聯絡道路那也可以讓未來我們要環台6小時的一個交通路網趕快做一個銜接的東部的一個山鐵供購站的起點\n\n10\n00:03:36,997 --> 00:04:05,572\n那我希望說這個部分要無論如何拜託主委在這個督導方面一定要確實的掌握那個氣程沒錯就是說過去東西部建設不平均賴總統他均衡台灣的理念交通建設是中二一環如果今天高鐵能夠延伸到宜蘭他將來有一天就會延伸到花蓮就會到台東就會連接到屏東那麼台灣呢\n\n11\n00:04:07,394 --> 00:04:28,164\n這個整個台灣由高鐵來串聯我覺得這個是對台灣是一個好事他不只是東部人的高鐵任何人也會到東部是全國在使用全國人民重大的一個交通建設所以到宜蘭或者是南邊到屏東只是一個起點將來就會到台東將來就會到花蓮是\n\n12\n00:04:30,725 --> 00:04:54,387\n好另外要拜託政委就是我們的環山步道那因為宜蘭縣的這個山邊這個山上的步道非常的這個完善只是欠缺串聯那當然在政委您提出要建置這個環山步道之後已經陸續都有成效出來那五年內完工的部分會不會對於這個財務法會帶來什麼影響嗎\n\n13\n00:04:58,833 --> 00:05:21,886\n這個環山步道就是納入國家綠道就是整個希望過去有歷史文化的步道或有觀光價值有健行價值的把它串聯起來那宜蘭的這個環山步道指的就是淡蘭古道就是當初到宜蘭開墾的先民是走淡蘭古道一直到蘇花古道\n\n14\n00:05:22,466 --> 00:05:47,041\n那麼沿著山邊能夠形成五環那麼由中央相關單位跟宜蘭縣政府來協助這部分的經費是不多那大概是有的都是一千萬以內所以我們盡量克服來希望這個六年之內來完成在宜蘭的這個環山步道的五環提供給北部民眾甚至所有的民眾到宜蘭\n\n15\n00:05:47,881 --> 00:06:10,649\n可以有一個輕旅行或者是到這個整個步道串聯不管露營等等都好這提供給服務所有的民眾是北起龍嶺步道然後到南至這個蘇花谷道310公里那這個構想提出之後我要跟主委您報告就是很多登山客都在期待\n\n16\n00:06:11,329 --> 00:06:34,597\n期待這一條步道可以真的盡早來打通讓他們在登山休閒的過程裡面有一個新的選擇那從這個環山步道要觀看整個太平洋是非常漂亮的尤其我們宜蘭這個山景跟平原的這個景色是在全國來看是獨一無二那我也在此也是在懇切拜託我們主委對這個部分\n\n17\n00:06:36,398 --> 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