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00:01:14,902\n但是呢可以代表他們這裡的人的聲音我們可以帶他們來讓他們看看你可以接受的上限是什麼下限是什麼這樣才可以選舉共識不然每一個人都覺得自己的最重要這樣就是變成如果我們大家都重要都加進去之後未來啊我們的訪教日會變成超過31天啦超過31天我相信各行各業百家百業絕對會受到很大的衝擊和影響\n\n5\n00:01:33,933 --> 00:01:37,776\n我們的勞工金融是比較辛苦,當我們全世界的管理員,勞工的洗手超過兩成,在世界的管理員超過一倍。\n\n6\n00:01:50,566 --> 00:01:52,308\n很多我們的社會都可以說已經過勞了我們說到更新世界比世界主要的經濟國家更加落後了還有一項就是我們希望說孩子\n\n7\n00:02:07,503 --> 00:02:09,624\n和四大人共過的時間未來你一定可以做到,不要說教師節,我們剛才說教師節,教師節他如果共過,四大人沒有共過,剛才小孩要再拜託人,那如果下課,那個勞動節\n\n8\n00:02:25,155 --> 00:02:26,657\n年輕人要繼續做事,年輕人也是在家的,他們沒辦法跟年輕人做事處理妥當,還是說有什麼互動的關係,這個過分可能要請內政部有一定的方式\n\n9\n00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:44,558\n我相信很多朋友也站在告示節是不是要放假的日程提出跟委員要求但是告示節有告示節的時刻我剛才有說過如果告示節放假之後其實現在最大的影響是影響在偏鄉地區的孩子的收購款\n\n10\n00:02:57,673 --> 00:03:15,663\n偏鄉地區的學童的受教權會受到影響然後再加上目前以台灣的教育學制來講我們本來就有寒暑假所以委員所提到的問題就是說寒假期間小孩子放假的時候家長怎麼樣處理小孩子放假時候他們的教養教育的問題那跟\n\n11\n00:03:18,724 --> 00:03:37,883\n只有單一提出9月28那一天因為老師放假所以小孩子在家沒有人看顧其實會有不同的看法因為人數或天數真的很多譬如說我們的暑假可能有一兩個月那我們總不能一兩個月教師都放假然後全國就跟著一起放假我想這樣子太極端的想法\n\n12\n00:03:38,564 --> 00:04:06,528\n所以我剛剛有提到這裡面要解決就是教師的權益的問題或是勞工權益的問題的話目的失業主管機關的教育部或者是這個勞動部他們要提出一個有效的辦法來抑止譬如說工時過長然後勞動條件過苛或者是教師時數過長的問題而不是全部把它放到要不要放假變成國定假日然後全國一起放假然後就一次解決所有的問題這樣子也未免太草率\n\n13\n00:04:07,008 --> 00:04:14,933\n對感謝我們國中的用心剛才你說都總共有三十一種冠軍三十一個冠軍三十一的冠軍二十六個委員提案每天都要報告都總共三十一天三十一天這樣要整合實在辛苦整合我們如果能整合才能完全配合我們是希望說\n\n14\n00:04:34,884 --> 00:04:39,068\n當然我們隔天不可以無限的日數但是我們政府在一日一宵的修法的時候它那七天到晚有提掉的這是事實但是委員我覺得這樣剛好一半對一半不對\n\n15\n00:04:52,641 --> 00:05:09,155\n雖然在一例一休只能所謂七天假拿掉但是未來我們週休二日的部分現在全台灣各地的放假全台灣加上週休二日已經是一百一十五天或者是一百一十六天跟原來不到一百天是差很多的是所以現在剛才你說的還他七天假還他七天假這個理由是什麼\n\n16\n00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:27,415\n還他七天假是不是可以請盧董博來跟議員解說因為這不是來敬博主觀的我還有一些問題\n\n17\n00:05:42,529 --> 00:05:54,252\n市長感謝你現在我們旁邊的旅行朋友都有在說希望可以還他7點價這個原因是什麼那就是100.5年12月份那些人修改希望可以變成週休2日週休2日那些人之前那些委員就討論說那週休2日要\n\n18\n00:06:09,955 --> 00:06:16,363\n放假天數的增加,所以就希望說,可以來修改這個勞動,勞基法裡面的私人細則,跟本價,勞工有19日,減7天,變成12天\n\n19\n00:06:24,953 --> 00:06:52,626\n但是那時候在修改的時候也同時把一些特殊價來增加譬如說本價下跌是一年年資以下半年年資的本價是沒有特殊的但是修改以後配合就是說半年年資的有三天的特殊一年以上到兩年特殊價也增加兩年以上也都增加所以特殊價也有適度增加\n\n20\n00:06:53,530 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