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00:02:50,070\n互助互救以及這個防災準備的這樣一個能力那這個就是我們今天有提到這跟防災室的訓練有關這是第一個方向那第二個方向就是跟企業的合作因為我們現在有非常多在台灣的這些中小企業因為時間的關係是不是在六大方向能夠會後以書面報告給我好的謝謝那表示你們現在已經有在正式這個複合型災害的一個防治的方法那另外\n\n9\n00:02:52,057 --> 00:02:56,242\n針對卓院長說我們現在是行動創新AI內閣請問次長有沒有將複合型的氣候事件的風險評估機制以及AI大數據的機制應用於預測複合型氣候的事件\n\n10\n00:03:10,011 --> 00:03:30,427\n跟委包我們目前有三個不同的方向在努力第一個是中央氣象署他們在對於颱風跟極端氣候的預測他們用AI模型那這AI模型在包括國科會他跟氣象署也有合作那第二個是我們在做災害派遣的部分消防署現在也在進行災害派遣的AI化\n\n11\n00:03:31,067 --> 00:03:50,437\n那另外就是說我們在對於科技運用那尤其是有關於無人機的整個偵測解析我們的災區的部分我們目前也在做這樣的一個工作好謝謝我想這個部分是大家非常關心也是我們必須要積極去面對的也希望能夠好好的運用現在的這個AI技術來去達到預測的效果\n\n12\n00:03:52,438 --> 00:04:07,097\n那另外就是IPCC在2012年的時候就已經警告複合氣候的事件會因地球的暖化的影響會逐年增加那請問一下次長台灣是否有完整的地方性的評估報告而且制定具體的減災對策\n\n13\n00:04:09,107 --> 00:04:35,788\n跟委員報告目前在減災的對策上面我們有災害防救白皮書跟災害防救基本計畫裡面有訂定減災目標那各個減災目標必須對應到中央跟地方政府不同的預算科目所以這個是一個蠻複雜的問題不過目標是有的但是比較大的問題就是說因為氣候變遷的速度跟我們訂定目標當時所預估的可能會有一些落差\n\n14\n00:04:36,388 --> 00:04:47,359\n所以這部分我們每一年在做滾動式檢討我想隨時都應該做滾動式的檢討來去因應現在的一個狀況那另外我想請教一下環境部我們的陳副署長請陳副署長\n\n15\n00:04:59,647 --> 00:05:16,936\n環境部我針對氣候變遷基金是否有益助到防災領域還是仍然停留在減碳的政策報告委員因為我是化學署的副署長那氣候基金的部分是我們有氣候署那今天沒有派氣候署代表來那是不是容我把問題帶回去\n\n16\n00:05:18,444 --> 00:05:45,464\n那是不是會後能夠把相關的這個有關氣候變遷基金我剛提到這個問題能夠到辦公室來說明一下好嗎那另外在最後再請教次長請問一下次長我們現在您同不同意將強化學校的防災教育從小針對我們的這個防災教育進入到我們的課程將富爾市災害應變也納入我們的課程當中嗎\n\n17\n00:05:46,064 --> 00:06:01,355\n報告委員非常贊同謝謝那目前有沒有這樣的計畫跟委員報告目前在學校端的防災教育部有三個單位在負責一個是教育部的職科師一個是教育部的校安中心那另外一個是教育部的國教署他們都有各自的計畫在進行\n\n18\n00:06:02,236 --> 00:06:26,396\n希望說他們能夠整合一下把這個這個課程能夠整合在一起跟我們內政部都有合作OK好謝謝陳副總理您可以先回座是然後另外再請教一下就是昨天監察院提案糾正行政院跟國土署就是近年來營建剩餘的土石方遭非法棄置的事件屢見不鮮那當然這中間還有很多不肖的土石的資源堆積廠已合法\n\n19\n00:06:26,816 --> 00:06:48,922\n掩護非法結合開發業者跟回田業者清運業者土石土地仲介等上下游串聯的方式形成不法的產業鏈那甚至有的還會把營建剩餘的土石跟這些廢棄物直接從工地運到農地或者是漁溫來去進行非法掩埋那嚴重影響公共安全跟國土的完整那請問次長\n\n20\n00:06:50,942 --> 00:07:12,296\n針對複合型災害發生之後出現大量的這種營建廢棄物或者是說非法的這種營建剩餘的土方請問目前是怎麼樣子的一個處置各位報告我們在針對災害後的這些所謂的廢棄物的部分我們跟環境部之間我們有做這個廢棄物的堆置跟回收這樣的一個機制\n\n21\n00:07:13,277 --> 00:07:30,517\n那如同剛剛委員所詢問的回收機制的部分我們目前要輔導業者去強化他們的這個容量那這裡也要搭配平時我們的這個營建廢棄物的量跟災時我們會多增加出來的量去做這樣的一個總體的一個評估\n\n22\n00:07:32,861 --> 00:07:58,147\n那所以總體評估完之後呢我們跟委員報告就目前我們在營建廢棄物的產量跟營建廢棄物的處理量的部分這個部分我們還要再檢討因為這中間的確是有一個落差那這個部分我想既然監察院都特別提出糾正了這個部分我想我們要積極的去面對處理這樣的一個問題那接下來我想請教一下那個消防署那個\n\n23\n00:07:59,704 --> 00:08:18,296\n我們的蕭署長好就是有關台中星光三月氣爆的事件造成5死38傷那這個當時是應該是因為在當時要裝潢的時候有切割天然氣的管線而造成這樣的一個災害那請問一下就是像這樣子的這一次在這個大型的商場裡面發生這樣的事情\n\n24\n00:08:21,158 --> 00:08:26,221\n那我有沒有去研擬過因為我們現在可能針對這個我們的瓦斯感應器並沒有要求全面裝設就針對在這個有關如果設置飲食空間的場所並沒有全面設置那請問未來是不是會要求我們這有飲食空間的這些營業場所要全面設置瓦斯感測器呢\n\n25\n00:08:42,148 --> 00:08:54,696\n這個案子是有設置只不過施工過程當中他沒有進行施工的管理計畫跟申報那施工過程當中也把警報設備這邊關閉所以事後所以是等於是施工人員操作的問題施工跟整個系統關閉的問題\n\n26\n00:08:59,699 --> 00:09:23,296\n所以他那個樓層已經有裝設瓦斯感測器那目前我們有沒有要求有這樣子的這個大型商場的有設飲食空間的這些業者要求他們都要設置瓦斯感測器我們目前是針對地下建築場所這個有要求那委員關係這個部分我們再跟國度署國度署的法規因為以前可能美食街會設在地下室\n\n27\n00:09:23,416 --> 00:09:52,173\n可是現在都不是現在各個樓層可能都有所以針對這個部分是不是能夠我覺得應該要把這個在各個有關只要有設置美食街的都應該要裝設瓦斯感測器用天然氣或者液化休息的部分我們來檢討好不好是不是那麻煩一下這個署長這個會後能夠馬上跟我們的國處所以要請次長能夠來好好的來去這個監督這樣子的一個事情我覺得這個災害竟然已經發生了但是我覺得未來不能再有這樣子的災害好嗎好謝謝\n\n28\n00:09:53,575 --> 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謝謝那表示你們現在已經有在正式這個複合型災害的一個防治的方法那另外\n172057\t176242\t針對卓院長說我們現在是行動創新AI內閣請問次長有沒有將複合型的氣候事件的風險評估機制以及AI大數據的機制應用於預測複合型氣候的事件\n190011\t210427\t跟委包我們目前有三個不同的方向在努力第一個是中央氣象署他們在對於颱風跟極端氣候的預測他們用AI模型那這AI模型在包括國科會他跟氣象署也有合作那第二個是我們在做災害派遣的部分消防署現在也在進行災害派遣的AI化\n211067\t230437\t那另外就是說我們在對於科技運用那尤其是有關於無人機的整個偵測解析我們的災區的部分我們目前也在做這樣的一個工作好 謝謝我想這個部分是大家非常關心也是我們必須要積極去面對的也希望能夠好好的運用現在的這個AI技術來去達到預測的效果\n232438\t247097\t那另外就是IPCC在2012年的時候就已經警告複合氣候的事件會因地球的暖化的影響會逐年增加那請問一下次長台灣是否有完整的地方性的評估報告而且制定具體的減災對策\n249107\t275788\t跟委員報告目前在減災的對策上面我們有災害防救白皮書跟災害防救基本計畫裡面有訂定減災目標那各個減災目標必須對應到中央跟地方政府不同的預算科目所以這個是一個蠻複雜的問題不過目標是有的但是比較大的問題就是說因為氣候變遷的速度跟我們訂定目標當時所預估的可能會有一些落差\n276388\t287359\t所以這部分我們每一年在做滾動式檢討我想隨時都應該做滾動式的檢討來去因應現在的一個狀況那另外我想請教一下環境部我們的陳副署長請陳副署長\n299647\t316936\t環境部我針對氣候變遷基金是否有益助到防災領域還是仍然停留在減碳的政策報告委員因為我是化學署的副署長那氣候基金的部分是我們有氣候署那今天沒有派氣候署代表來那是不是容我把問題帶回去\n318444\t345464\t那是不是會後能夠把相關的這個有關氣候變遷基金我剛提到這個問題能夠到辦公室來說明一下好嗎那另外在最後再請教次長請問一下次長我們現在您同不同意將強化學校的防災教育從小針對我們的這個防災教育進入到我們的課程將富爾市災害應變也納入我們的課程當中嗎\n346064\t361355\t報告委員非常贊同 謝謝那目前有沒有這樣的計畫跟委員報告 目前在學校端的防災教育部有三個單位在負責一個是教育部的職科師 一個是教育部的校安中心那另外一個是教育部的國教署 他們都有各自的計畫在進行\n362236\t386396\t希望說他們能夠整合一下把這個這個課程能夠整合在一起跟我們內政部都有合作OK好謝謝陳副總理您可以先回座是然後另外再請教一下就是昨天監察院提案糾正行政院跟國土署就是近年來營建剩餘的土石方遭非法棄置的事件屢見不鮮那當然這中間還有很多不肖的土石的資源堆積廠已合法\n386816\t408922\t掩護非法 結合開發業者跟回田業者 清運業者土石土地仲介等上下游串聯的方式形成不法的產業鏈那甚至有的還會把營建剩餘的土石跟這些廢棄物直接從工地運到農地或者是漁溫來去進行非法掩埋那嚴重影響公共安全跟國土的完整那請問次長\n410942\t432296\t針對複合型災害發生之後出現大量的這種營建廢棄物或者是說非法的這種營建剩餘的土方請問目前是怎麼樣子的一個處置各位報告我們在針對災害後的這些所謂的廢棄物的部分我們跟環境部之間我們有做這個廢棄物的堆置跟回收這樣的一個機制\n433277\t450517\t那如同剛剛委員所詢問的回收機制的部分我們目前要輔導業者去強化他們的這個容量那這裡也要搭配平時我們的這個營建廢棄物的量跟災時我們會多增加出來的量去做這樣的一個總體的一個評估\n452861\t478147\t那所以總體評估完之後呢我們跟委員報告就目前我們在營建廢棄物的產量跟營建廢棄物的處理量的部分這個部分我們還要再檢討因為這中間的確是有一個落差那這個部分我想既然監察院都特別提出糾正了這個部分我想我們要積極的去面對處理這樣的一個問題那接下來我想請教一下那個消防署那個\n479704\t498296\t我們的蕭署長好就是有關台中星光三月氣爆的事件造成5死38傷那這個當時是應該是因為在當時要裝潢的時候有切割天然氣的管線而造成這樣的一個災害那請問一下就是像這樣子的這一次在這個大型的商場裡面發生這樣的事情\n501158\t506221\t那我有沒有去研擬過因為我們現在可能針對這個我們的瓦斯感應器並沒有要求全面裝設就針對在這個有關如果設置飲食空間的場所並沒有全面設置那請問未來是不是會要求我們這有飲食空間的這些營業場所要全面設置瓦斯感測器呢\n522148\t534696\t這個案子是有設置只不過施工過程當中他沒有進行施工的管理計畫跟申報那施工過程當中也把警報設備這邊關閉所以事後所以是等於是施工人員操作的問題施工跟整個系統關閉的問題\n539699\t563296\t所以他那個樓層已經有裝設瓦斯感測器那目前我們有沒有要求有這樣子的這個大型商場的有設飲食空間的這些業者要求他們都要設置瓦斯感測器我們目前是針對地下建築場所這個有要求那委員關係這個部分我們再跟國度署國度署的法規因為以前可能美食街會設在地下室\n563416\t592173\t可是現在都不是 現在各個樓層可能都有所以針對這個部分是不是能夠我覺得應該要把這個在各個有關 只要有設置美食街的都應該要裝設瓦斯感測器用天然氣或者液化休息的部分我們來檢討好不好 是不是那麻煩一下這個署長這個會後能夠馬上跟我們的國處所以要請次長能夠來好好的來去這個監督這樣子的一個事情我覺得這個災害竟然已經發生了但是我覺得未來不能再有這樣子的災害 好嗎好 謝謝\n593575\t593658\t我去問\n","txt":"謝謝主席我們請馬政次好 請馬次長委員早安次長好次長我想請教你一下就是隨著全球氣候變遷加劇那台灣面臨的現在的這個災害的形態\n已經從過去的單一現在變成天然的天然的災害變成是複合型的災害喔比如說哈地震會可能會引發土石流還有海嘯颱風會伴隨著潮雨還有可能會抱著這個大規模的停電但目前的防災教育還是以單一災害\n的設計為主那已經沒有辦法面對這種像複合型的災害交錯的一個情況請次長看一下這個表格我們可以看一下2024年台灣的幾項重大自然災害引發的複合型的災害我們可以看到在2024年4月3號的花蓮地震\n地震引起的有火災山崩道路中斷而且導致交通癱瘓那在2024年的7月23號到26號的凱米颱風也造成了淹水土石流強風還有造成大規模的停電\n那2024年10月31號的康瑞颱風我們可以看到也強風豪雨也引發了淹水土石流還有大規模的停電那2024年10月初的山陀颱風也造成淹水土石流跟大規模的停電所以我們可以看到其實現在的災害大概都會是複合型的\n那尤其是我們位處於這個太平洋的地震帶然後夏季也有颱風的威脅也算是這個複合型災害的高風險的一個區域那所以請問次次長我們對複合型災害的這個問題有做哪些事前準備事後又怎麼協助\n謝謝委員關心這個復活性災害的問題那委員所提到的這幾個包括我們的災害事件跟整個趨勢就是完全是我們現在在關切的對象那目前在內政部的施政方向裡面我們有六個方向在面對委員剛剛所質詢的問題第一個就是說我們國民的普及的防災教育讓國民本身具有自主\n互助互救以及這個防災準備的這樣一個能力那這個就是我們今天有提到這跟防災室的訓練有關這是第一個方向那第二個方向就是跟企業的合作因為我們現在有非常多在台灣的這些中小企業因為時間的關係是不是在六大方向能夠會後以書面報告給我好的 謝謝那表示你們現在已經有在正式這個複合型災害的一個防治的方法那另外\n針對卓院長說我們現在是行動創新AI內閣請問次長有沒有將複合型的氣候事件的風險評估機制以及AI大數據的機制應用於預測複合型氣候的事件\n跟委包我們目前有三個不同的方向在努力第一個是中央氣象署他們在對於颱風跟極端氣候的預測他們用AI模型那這AI模型在包括國科會他跟氣象署也有合作那第二個是我們在做災害派遣的部分消防署現在也在進行災害派遣的AI化\n那另外就是說我們在對於科技運用那尤其是有關於無人機的整個偵測解析我們的災區的部分我們目前也在做這樣的一個工作好 謝謝我想這個部分是大家非常關心也是我們必須要積極去面對的也希望能夠好好的運用現在的這個AI技術來去達到預測的效果\n那另外就是IPCC在2012年的時候就已經警告複合氣候的事件會因地球的暖化的影響會逐年增加那請問一下次長台灣是否有完整的地方性的評估報告而且制定具體的減災對策\n跟委員報告目前在減災的對策上面我們有災害防救白皮書跟災害防救基本計畫裡面有訂定減災目標那各個減災目標必須對應到中央跟地方政府不同的預算科目所以這個是一個蠻複雜的問題不過目標是有的但是比較大的問題就是說因為氣候變遷的速度跟我們訂定目標當時所預估的可能會有一些落差\n所以這部分我們每一年在做滾動式檢討我想隨時都應該做滾動式的檢討來去因應現在的一個狀況那另外我想請教一下環境部我們的陳副署長請陳副署長\n環境部我針對氣候變遷基金是否有益助到防災領域還是仍然停留在減碳的政策報告委員因為我是化學署的副署長那氣候基金的部分是我們有氣候署那今天沒有派氣候署代表來那是不是容我把問題帶回去\n那是不是會後能夠把相關的這個有關氣候變遷基金我剛提到這個問題能夠到辦公室來說明一下好嗎那另外在最後再請教次長請問一下次長我們現在您同不同意將強化學校的防災教育從小針對我們的這個防災教育進入到我們的課程將富爾市災害應變也納入我們的課程當中嗎\n報告委員非常贊同 謝謝那目前有沒有這樣的計畫跟委員報告 目前在學校端的防災教育部有三個單位在負責一個是教育部的職科師 一個是教育部的校安中心那另外一個是教育部的國教署 他們都有各自的計畫在進行\n希望說他們能夠整合一下把這個這個課程能夠整合在一起跟我們內政部都有合作OK好謝謝陳副總理您可以先回座是然後另外再請教一下就是昨天監察院提案糾正行政院跟國土署就是近年來營建剩餘的土石方遭非法棄置的事件屢見不鮮那當然這中間還有很多不肖的土石的資源堆積廠已合法\n掩護非法 結合開發業者跟回田業者 清運業者土石土地仲介等上下游串聯的方式形成不法的產業鏈那甚至有的還會把營建剩餘的土石跟這些廢棄物直接從工地運到農地或者是漁溫來去進行非法掩埋那嚴重影響公共安全跟國土的完整那請問次長\n針對複合型災害發生之後出現大量的這種營建廢棄物或者是說非法的這種營建剩餘的土方請問目前是怎麼樣子的一個處置各位報告我們在針對災害後的這些所謂的廢棄物的部分我們跟環境部之間我們有做這個廢棄物的堆置跟回收這樣的一個機制\n那如同剛剛委員所詢問的回收機制的部分我們目前要輔導業者去強化他們的這個容量那這裡也要搭配平時我們的這個營建廢棄物的量跟災時我們會多增加出來的量去做這樣的一個總體的一個評估\n那所以總體評估完之後呢我們跟委員報告就目前我們在營建廢棄物的產量跟營建廢棄物的處理量的部分這個部分我們還要再檢討因為這中間的確是有一個落差那這個部分我想既然監察院都特別提出糾正了這個部分我想我們要積極的去面對處理這樣的一個問題那接下來我想請教一下那個消防署那個\n我們的蕭署長好就是有關台中星光三月氣爆的事件造成5死38傷那這個當時是應該是因為在當時要裝潢的時候有切割天然氣的管線而造成這樣的一個災害那請問一下就是像這樣子的這一次在這個大型的商場裡面發生這樣的事情\n那我有沒有去研擬過因為我們現在可能針對這個我們的瓦斯感應器並沒有要求全面裝設就針對在這個有關如果設置飲食空間的場所並沒有全面設置那請問未來是不是會要求我們這有飲食空間的這些營業場所要全面設置瓦斯感測器呢\n這個案子是有設置只不過施工過程當中他沒有進行施工的管理計畫跟申報那施工過程當中也把警報設備這邊關閉所以事後所以是等於是施工人員操作的問題施工跟整個系統關閉的問題\n所以他那個樓層已經有裝設瓦斯感測器那目前我們有沒有要求有這樣子的這個大型商場的有設飲食空間的這些業者要求他們都要設置瓦斯感測器我們目前是針對地下建築場所這個有要求那委員關係這個部分我們再跟國度署國度署的法規因為以前可能美食街會設在地下室\n可是現在都不是 現在各個樓層可能都有所以針對這個部分是不是能夠我覺得應該要把這個在各個有關 只要有設置美食街的都應該要裝設瓦斯感測器用天然氣或者液化休息的部分我們來檢討好不好 是不是那麻煩一下這個署長這個會後能夠馬上跟我們的國處所以要請次長能夠來好好的來去這個監督這樣子的一個事情我覺得這個災害竟然已經發生了但是我覺得未來不能再有這樣子的災害 好嗎好 謝謝\n我去問\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.589 --> 00:04.150\n謝謝主席我們請馬政次好請馬次長委員早安次長好次長我想請教你一下就是隨著全球氣候變遷加劇那台灣面臨的現在的這個災害的形態\n\n00:18.936 --> 00:38.869\n已經從過去的單一現在變成天然的天然的災害變成是複合型的災害喔比如說哈地震會可能會引發土石流還有海嘯颱風會伴隨著潮雨還有可能會抱著這個大規模的停電但目前的防災教育還是以單一災害\n\n00:40.030 --> 00:57.710\n的設計為主那已經沒有辦法面對這種像複合型的災害交錯的一個情況請次長看一下這個表格我們可以看一下2024年台灣的幾項重大自然災害引發的複合型的災害我們可以看到在2024年4月3號的花蓮地震\n\n00:58.578 --> 01:13.877\n地震引起的有火災山崩道路中斷而且導致交通癱瘓那在2024年的7月23號到26號的凱米颱風也造成了淹水土石流強風還有造成大規模的停電\n\n01:14.838 --> 01:35.985\n那2024年10月31號的康瑞颱風我們可以看到也強風豪雨也引發了淹水土石流還有大規模的停電那2024年10月初的山陀颱風也造成淹水土石流跟大規模的停電所以我們可以看到其實現在的災害大概都會是複合型的\n\n01:36.425 --> 01:52.009\n那尤其是我們位處於這個太平洋的地震帶然後夏季也有颱風的威脅也算是這個複合型災害的高風險的一個區域那所以請問次次長我們對複合型災害的這個問題有做哪些事前準備事後又怎麼協助\n\n01:53.870 --> 02:21.312\n謝謝委員關心這個復活性災害的問題那委員所提到的這幾個包括我們的災害事件跟整個趨勢就是完全是我們現在在關切的對象那目前在內政部的施政方向裡面我們有六個方向在面對委員剛剛所質詢的問題第一個就是說我們國民的普及的防災教育讓國民本身具有自主\n\n02:21.912 --> 02:50.070\n互助互救以及這個防災準備的這樣一個能力那這個就是我們今天有提到這跟防災室的訓練有關這是第一個方向那第二個方向就是跟企業的合作因為我們現在有非常多在台灣的這些中小企業因為時間的關係是不是在六大方向能夠會後以書面報告給我好的謝謝那表示你們現在已經有在正式這個複合型災害的一個防治的方法那另外\n\n02:52.057 --> 02:56.242\n針對卓院長說我們現在是行動創新AI內閣請問次長有沒有將複合型的氣候事件的風險評估機制以及AI大數據的機制應用於預測複合型氣候的事件\n\n03:10.011 --> 03:30.427\n跟委包我們目前有三個不同的方向在努力第一個是中央氣象署他們在對於颱風跟極端氣候的預測他們用AI模型那這AI模型在包括國科會他跟氣象署也有合作那第二個是我們在做災害派遣的部分消防署現在也在進行災害派遣的AI化\n\n03:31.067 --> 03:50.437\n那另外就是說我們在對於科技運用那尤其是有關於無人機的整個偵測解析我們的災區的部分我們目前也在做這樣的一個工作好謝謝我想這個部分是大家非常關心也是我們必須要積極去面對的也希望能夠好好的運用現在的這個AI技術來去達到預測的效果\n\n03:52.438 --> 04:07.097\n那另外就是IPCC在2012年的時候就已經警告複合氣候的事件會因地球的暖化的影響會逐年增加那請問一下次長台灣是否有完整的地方性的評估報告而且制定具體的減災對策\n\n04:09.107 --> 04:35.788\n跟委員報告目前在減災的對策上面我們有災害防救白皮書跟災害防救基本計畫裡面有訂定減災目標那各個減災目標必須對應到中央跟地方政府不同的預算科目所以這個是一個蠻複雜的問題不過目標是有的但是比較大的問題就是說因為氣候變遷的速度跟我們訂定目標當時所預估的可能會有一些落差\n\n04:36.388 --> 04:47.359\n所以這部分我們每一年在做滾動式檢討我想隨時都應該做滾動式的檢討來去因應現在的一個狀況那另外我想請教一下環境部我們的陳副署長請陳副署長\n\n04:59.647 --> 05:16.936\n環境部我針對氣候變遷基金是否有益助到防災領域還是仍然停留在減碳的政策報告委員因為我是化學署的副署長那氣候基金的部分是我們有氣候署那今天沒有派氣候署代表來那是不是容我把問題帶回去\n\n05:18.444 --> 05:45.464\n那是不是會後能夠把相關的這個有關氣候變遷基金我剛提到這個問題能夠到辦公室來說明一下好嗎那另外在最後再請教次長請問一下次長我們現在您同不同意將強化學校的防災教育從小針對我們的這個防災教育進入到我們的課程將富爾市災害應變也納入我們的課程當中嗎\n\n05:46.064 --> 06:01.355\n報告委員非常贊同謝謝那目前有沒有這樣的計畫跟委員報告目前在學校端的防災教育部有三個單位在負責一個是教育部的職科師一個是教育部的校安中心那另外一個是教育部的國教署他們都有各自的計畫在進行\n\n06:02.236 --> 06:26.396\n希望說他們能夠整合一下把這個這個課程能夠整合在一起跟我們內政部都有合作OK好謝謝陳副總理您可以先回座是然後另外再請教一下就是昨天監察院提案糾正行政院跟國土署就是近年來營建剩餘的土石方遭非法棄置的事件屢見不鮮那當然這中間還有很多不肖的土石的資源堆積廠已合法\n\n06:26.816 --> 06:48.922\n掩護非法結合開發業者跟回田業者清運業者土石土地仲介等上下游串聯的方式形成不法的產業鏈那甚至有的還會把營建剩餘的土石跟這些廢棄物直接從工地運到農地或者是漁溫來去進行非法掩埋那嚴重影響公共安全跟國土的完整那請問次長\n\n06:50.942 --> 07:12.296\n針對複合型災害發生之後出現大量的這種營建廢棄物或者是說非法的這種營建剩餘的土方請問目前是怎麼樣子的一個處置各位報告我們在針對災害後的這些所謂的廢棄物的部分我們跟環境部之間我們有做這個廢棄物的堆置跟回收這樣的一個機制\n\n07:13.277 --> 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謝謝我想這個部分是大家非常關心也是我們必須要積極去面對的也希望能夠好好的運用現在的這個AI技術來去達到預測的效果"},{"start":232.438,"end":247.097,"text":"那另外就是IPCC在2012年的時候就已經警告複合氣候的事件會因地球的暖化的影響會逐年增加那請問一下次長台灣是否有完整的地方性的評估報告而且制定具體的減災對策"},{"start":249.107,"end":275.788,"text":"跟委員報告目前在減災的對策上面我們有災害防救白皮書跟災害防救基本計畫裡面有訂定減災目標那各個減災目標必須對應到中央跟地方政府不同的預算科目所以這個是一個蠻複雜的問題不過目標是有的但是比較大的問題就是說因為氣候變遷的速度跟我們訂定目標當時所預估的可能會有一些落差"},{"start":276.388,"end":287.359,"text":"所以這部分我們每一年在做滾動式檢討我想隨時都應該做滾動式的檢討來去因應現在的一個狀況那另外我想請教一下環境部我們的陳副署長請陳副署長"},{"start":299.647,"end":316.936,"text":"環境部我針對氣候變遷基金是否有益助到防災領域還是仍然停留在減碳的政策報告委員因為我是化學署的副署長那氣候基金的部分是我們有氣候署那今天沒有派氣候署代表來那是不是容我把問題帶回去"},{"start":318.444,"end":345.464,"text":"那是不是會後能夠把相關的這個有關氣候變遷基金我剛提到這個問題能夠到辦公室來說明一下好嗎那另外在最後再請教次長請問一下次長我們現在您同不同意將強化學校的防災教育從小針對我們的這個防災教育進入到我們的課程將富爾市災害應變也納入我們的課程當中嗎"},{"start":346.064,"end":361.355,"text":"報告委員非常贊同 謝謝那目前有沒有這樣的計畫跟委員報告 目前在學校端的防災教育部有三個單位在負責一個是教育部的職科師 一個是教育部的校安中心那另外一個是教育部的國教署 他們都有各自的計畫在進行"},{"start":362.236,"end":386.396,"text":"希望說他們能夠整合一下把這個這個課程能夠整合在一起跟我們內政部都有合作OK好謝謝陳副總理您可以先回座是然後另外再請教一下就是昨天監察院提案糾正行政院跟國土署就是近年來營建剩餘的土石方遭非法棄置的事件屢見不鮮那當然這中間還有很多不肖的土石的資源堆積廠已合法"},{"start":386.816,"end":408.922,"text":"掩護非法 結合開發業者跟回田業者 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現在各個樓層可能都有所以針對這個部分是不是能夠我覺得應該要把這個在各個有關 只要有設置美食街的都應該要裝設瓦斯感測器用天然氣或者液化休息的部分我們來檢討好不好 是不是那麻煩一下這個署長這個會後能夠馬上跟我們的國處所以要請次長能夠來好好的來去這個監督這樣子的一個事情我覺得這個災害竟然已經發生了但是我覺得未來不能再有這樣子的災害 好嗎好 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