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00:00:15,798\n時間短短的我先來關心這個產價跟賠產價的狀況因為我真的是很擔心啊其實從去年年底大家在討論總預算的時候我就已經不斷的在說這樣子預算砍下去到底會不會影響你們補助產價跟這個賠產價的補助那就我所知其實勞動部也是很願意照顧\n\n3\n00:00:36,184 --> 00:00:55,741\n這個就是要願意來請產假跟陪產假的人嘛就是如果有請假的話你們是七天你們是願意補助兩天的所以在這個預算被砍之後到底會受到什麼實質的影響可不可以在部長這邊明確的跟勞工們說那這個是我現在最擔心的一件事情\n\n4\n00:00:56,041 --> 00:01:11,232\n因為在現在是在就業平等業務這個項目裡面在1月的預算審查裡面被砍了800萬然後被動了兩成在將近2000萬加起來可能是在那個項目裡面將近三成那關於產價賠償減價我們的獎勵補助其實是在這裡面\n\n5\n00:01:14,794 --> 00:01:37,740\n大概比例是非常高的可能八九成都是在這個項目裡面所以按照這個刪減跟凍結的狀況勢必會影響產價跟培安減價我們蔣補助的發放這當然就影響到很多新手爸媽的權益所以這是我們覺得比較遺憾的事情好我問一個比較明確的就是現在這個預算砍下去我們大概只能發到幾月\n\n6\n00:01:39,702 --> 00:01:56,592\n應該是下半年吧下半年那也就是說下半年的新手爸媽想要來使用這個補助很可能就請不到了是這樣嗎就是這個三檢跟凍結的狀況我們認為如果這個到下半年可能就會有補助上面會用完的情況\n\n7\n00:01:57,512 --> 00:02:09,699\n好這就是我最擔心的我很擔心說到今年下半年新手爸媽就失去了這一項福利那如果啦真的下半年預算沒有被解凍那我們勞動部打算怎麼\n\n8\n00:02:13,382 --> 00:02:36,005\n我們還是希望能夠想盡辦法來協助可是這當然都會是權力上面的影響這是為什麼我們很期待之前的復議的原因但是恐怕還是會有一些權力會受到影響但是這部分因爲我們當然讓部內還要再做一些討論\n\n9\n00:02:37,076 --> 00:02:59,436\n好謝謝部長這個是我真的很擔心啦今年下半年新手爸媽的權益就要被影響了所以我在這邊一定要來幫新手爸媽來發聲那當然我會認為說這一波的預算砍下去不只是對勞工很傷對資方也很傷簡直就是勞資雙輸損人不利己那這樣的砍預算到底有什麼意義呢\n\n10\n00:03:00,197 --> 00:03:15,308\n那最後一點時間我來請教一下這個麥當勞案的後續啊因為其實這個案子大家也非常的關注那據我所知去年底這個麥當勞的性侵案發生之後台北市勞動局有去調查然後呢最後對麥當勞是裁罰了100萬\n\n11\n00:03:17,569 --> 00:03:38,720\n那原因是因為這個麥當勞沒有進到性別平等工作法裡面的要求就是說雇主在知道有性騷擾情形的時候並沒有及時的採取有效的糾正以及補救的措施那甚至我認為有一點令人遺憾而且非常氣憤的是直到這個事件就是這個受害者他\n\n12\n00:03:39,880 --> 00:04:07,563\n自殺之後事件爆發之後麥當勞才出來說要帶這個諮商心理師來關心受害者的家屬那這種時候的關心都已經於事無補了都為時已晚了所以我認為這個職場上面的性騷擾的防治還有這個相關的職場的指引是不是可以再加強即便是麥當勞這麼大的公司耶這麼大的公司我認為他們相關的知能也非常的不足\n\n13\n00:04:09,004 --> 00:04:36,306\n其實在這個事件之後我想大家其實看了都都會都很傷心那我們當然現在台北市政府其實是有做出相關的裁法但我們也會來做出針對像性供針對性供法這個職場的性騷擾的問題或者是講性騷擾的問題來的防治啊來做專案的勞檢這部分其實我們的勞檢單位其實針對這個主題我們會特別來做那也希望\n\n14\n00:04:36,926 --> 00:04:49,801\n接下來其實可能有一些比例我們也希望能夠邀請一些專家能夠陪同來做勞檢因為這個跟性平的議題有關的其實是需要一些專家在現場其實來看我們的防治的作為會不會有效\n\n15\n00:04:50,404 --> 00:05:07,057\n好謝謝部長說明最後因為我知道說現在勞動部是不是針對那個職場上面的性騷以及性別相關的一些輔導有一些補助那這可不可以讓大家知道說這個是如何來補助企業做這方面的智能培訓\n\n16\n00:05:08,323 --> 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